What happened when we tested thousands of abandoned rape kits in Detroit | Kym Worthy

譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Ziqing Ye

In 2009, in August, my office weathered two major scandals.

2009 年 8 月，我的辦公室

經歷了兩次重大的醜聞。

The first was the arrest, trying and conviction

第一個醜聞是底特律 非常受歡迎的市長

and subsequent incarceration of Detroit's very popular mayor.

被逮捕、審判、定罪， 後來被監禁。

The second caused the Detroit police department crime lab to be closed.

第二個醜聞導致

底特律警局犯罪實驗室被關閉。

I thought nothing else could go wrong.

我以為不會再有什麼事出錯了。

可接著，電話響了。

And then the phone rang.

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

It was the deputy chief of my special victim's unit,

是我的特案組副組長打來的，

who was breathless on the other end of the line.

在電話的另一端，他呼吸急促。

He said, "Boss, you are never going to believe what I just saw."

他說：「老大，你不會相信 我剛剛看到什麼。」

I had a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach,

我有個預感，似乎出事了，

because I knew instinctively

因為我的直覺知道，

that Detroit was getting ready to suffer its third major scandal,

才經過一年多，底特律已經準備好

要承受第三個重大醜聞了。

in just over one year.

He told me that he had just visited what he thought was an abandoned warehouse

他告訴我，他剛剛造訪了 一間他以為廢棄的倉庫，

where the Detroit police department was storing evidence.

底特律警局把證據存放在那裡。

Inside were 11,341 abandoned,

在裡面，有 11,341 個被拋棄的，

未經檢測的強暴證據採集包。

untested rape kits.

Some of them went back to the 1980s.

有一些標示的時間是八○年代。

And some of them now are over 40 years old.

有些已經有四十年的歷史。

These kits were spilling out of large, black garbage bags

這些採集包被從大型黑色垃圾袋

和空油桶中翻出來。

and empty oil drums.

Each kit represented a victim,

每個採集包都代表一個受害者，

mostly a female,

大部分是曾經遭受過 暴力性侵的女性。

that had suffered a violent sexual assault.

Each of them voluntarily endured an hours-long rape kit process,

每一個人都自願忍受了

一小時的強暴證據採集過程，

with the hopes that as a result of that they would find their perpetrator.

希望最後結果是能夠找到 侵犯她們的行兇者。

And unbeknownst to all of them, all 11,341,

沒有人知道，所有 11,341 個

強暴證據採集包 都從來沒有被檢測過。

those kits were never tested.

I cannot even begin to describe -- oh!

我完全不知道要如何描述——喔！

And by the way, before I move on,

在我說下去之前先順便一提，

in the interim of those 40 years,

在那四十年期間，

those perpetrators were allowed to continue to offend with impunity.

那些行兇者可以繼續 侵犯別人而不受懲罰。

I cannot tell you or describe to you how outraged, mad and angry I was.

我無法向各位陳述或描述

我有多麼憤怒、生氣，和惱火。

I myself was a victim of sexual assault,

我自己也曾是性侵的受害者，

back many decades ago, when I was in law school.

數十年前，我在讀 法律學校時發生的。

I also am the mother of three girls, a 21-year-old and nine-year-old twins.

我自己有三個女兒，一個 21 歲， 兩個 9 歲，是雙胞胎。

I was even more horrified to learn -- if I could be more horrified --

更讓我感到驚恐的是—— 如果我還能更驚恐的話——

that the oldest of those kits --

那些採集包當中最早的——

one of the oldest of those kits -- belonged to an eight-year-old girl.

最早的採集包之一—— 屬於一個八歲的女孩。

I'm going to tell you her story, but I'm going to call her Natasha.

我要告訴各位她的故事， 但我會把她的名字改為娜塔莎。

On January 2, 1990, Natasha was at home and a man knocked on her door.

1990 年 1 月 2 號，娜塔莎在家，

一位男人敲了她家的門。

This man was familiar with her neighborhood

這個男人很熟悉她住的鄰里，

and was familiar with the comings and goings of her family,

也很清楚她的家人 何時離家何時回家，

but Natasha did not know him.

但娜塔莎不認識他。

He told her that her grandmother, the only mother that she had ever known,

他告訴她說，她的祖母， 唯一一個為她扮演母親角色的人

had been in a terrible accident

遇到了可怕的意外，

and was laying on a couch in his house, calling for her.

躺在他家的沙發上，呼喚著她。

Terrified that Natasha was going to lose her grandmother, she went with him.

娜塔莎深怕會失去祖母， 便跟著他走了。

But of course, we all know her grandmother was not there.

但，當然，我們都知道 她的祖母不在那裡。

Once he had isolated Natasha, who was eight years old,

當他把八歲的娜塔莎 隔離開來之後，

he began to rape her violently.

他便開始暴力地強暴她。

He raped her with his mouth, his fingers and his penis.

他用他的嘴巴、手指， 和生殖器強暴了她。

And he even forced his penis into her mouth.

他甚至將他的生殖器 強行插入她口中。

When he was done, he ordered Natasha to get dressed,

強暴完之後，他命令 娜塔莎穿上衣服，

he got dressed himself,

他自己也穿上衣服， 接著把她的眼睛矇住。

and he put a blindfold across her head.

And walked her to a factory area on the edge of the neighborhood.

他帶她走到那個鄰里 邊緣的工廠地區。

He asked her if she knew -- he removed the blindfold,

他問她是否知道—— 他把遮眼布拿掉了，

and asked her if she knew how to get home from there.

問她是否知道怎麼從那裡回家。

And when she indicated that she did, he let her go and he walked off.

當她說她知道時， 他就放了她並調頭走開了。

Natasha's rape was reported immediately,

娜塔莎被強暴的事 馬上被向警方報案，

and a rape kit was done.

並完成了一個強暴證據採集包。

Now, the rape kit process terrifies and traumatizes adult women.

強暴證據採集的過程都會讓成年 女性感到害怕，造成精神創傷。

Can you imagine what it was like for a little second-grader,

你們能想像一個小學 二年級的女孩，

who still wore pigtails and still believed in Santa Claus,

還綁著辮子，還相信 聖誕老人的女孩，

going through this exam?

還得接受這種檢測嗎？

Natasha's kit sat on the shelf in that abandoned warehouse

娜塔莎的採集包就放在 那廢棄倉庫的架上，

for 26 years.

放了 26 年。

Pamela, 19 years old --

潘美拉，19 歲——

I'll call her Pamela, that's not her real name --

我稱她為潘美拉， 那不是她的真名——

nineteen years old, was walking down the street

她 19 歲，在街上走著，

after she had come from visiting her boyfriend.

她剛拜訪完男友。

She was grabbed from behind,

有人從後面抓住她，

and she felt what she thought was a gun, in her side.

她認為她感覺到 有一把槍抵著她側邊。

She was taken to an abandoned house,

她被帶到一間廢棄的房子，

to a bedroom in that house, that was filled with trash.

帶進那間房子的臥室， 裡面都是垃圾。

Every time she tried to resist,

每當她試圖抵抗，

he would hit her about the face and the head.

他就會毆打她的臉或是頭。

He violently raped her on the floor of that bedroom

他在那間臥室滿是垃圾的 地板上暴力地強暴了她。

that was filled with garbage.

When he was done,

他結束之後，穿上了他的衣服，

he put on his clothes,

he stole her money, and he just walked away.

偷走了她的錢，就這樣走了。

Pamela also reported her rape right away.

潘美拉馬上報案。

She also had a rape kit done.

她也完成了一個強暴證據採集包。

And like Natasha's, her kit sat on the shelf for 15 years.

和娜塔莎的採集包一樣， 她的採集包在架上放了 15 年。

Now, criminals, like people who raped Natasha and Pamela,

罪犯，像是強暴娜塔莎和潘美拉的人，

often leave their DNA at a crime scene.

通常會把他們的 DNA 留在犯罪現場。

But for a rape victim, their body is the crime scene.

但對於強暴受害者來說， 她們的身體就是犯罪現場。

So many elect to go through this hours-long rape kit process

好多受害者選擇忍受一小時的 強暴證據採集過程，

that requires every inch and orifice of a victim's body

過程中，受害者身體上的

每一吋皮膚和每一個孔

to be combed, swabbed and photographed.

都必須要被徹底搜查、 拭抹，和拍照。

All right after a violent sexual assault.

一切全都是在暴力的性侵害 之後立即進行。

The reason that most people do this, who have a rape kit,

大部分人決定接受 強暴證據採集的理由，

is because they want the forensic scientists to study that rape kit.

是因為他們想要法庭科學家 分析那強暴證據採集包。

And hopefully come up with a genetic profile

希望能夠找出基因側寫，

that will help identify their perpetrator.

協助辨視出行兇者身分。

Once forensic scientists come up with this genetic profile,

一旦法庭科學家找出了基因側寫，

they enter it into CODIS, hopefully have a match.

就會把側寫送入 CODIS， 希望找到符合的人。

CODIS is filled with DNA profiles of people who are arrested

CODIS 中包含了那些由於 某些特定犯罪行為

and/or convicted of certain prescribed offenses.

而被逮捕或定罪者的 DNA 側寫。

If in fact a profile is made and entered into CODIS,

如果確實有側寫被建立 並輸入到 CODIS 中，

it can help identify a perpetrator in the matter of minutes.

就能在幾分鐘內協助找出行兇者。

CODIS stands for Combined DNA Index System.

CODIS 是 DNA 聯合 索引系統的縮寫。

Now, how did we get here?

我們怎麼會落到這步田地？

Detroit had no money.

底特律沒有錢。

It cost, at that time that these kits were found,

在這些採集包被發現的時候，

up to 1,500 dollars per kit to have it tested.

檢測每個採集包的成本 高達 1500 美金。

So, you do the math about how much that was going to cost.

所以，你們可以自己算算看 總共要多少錢。

In addition to that,

此外，

within four years of these kits being found in 2009,

這些採集包是在 2009 年 被發現，在四年之後，

Detroit would be the largest municipality in the history of the United States

底特律就成了美國史上

宣佈破產的自治市 當中最大的一個。

to declare bankruptcy.

We didn't know what we were going to do.

我們不知道我們能怎麼辦。

But not only that.

但不只是這樣。 當我們開始研究和調查

As we began to study and investigate how this possibly could have happened,

這怎麼可能發生的時候，

we discovered there were other issues besides just financial ones.

我們發現，除了財務問題之外 還有其他的問題。

During the course of these decades where these kits sat in that warehouse,

在這些採集包被放置 在倉庫的幾十年間，

we discovered there had been multiple changes of police leadership,

我們發現，警方的領導階層 經歷了多次改變，

with different priorities and different agendas.

每次都有不同的 優先順序和不同的議程。

There was woefully inadequate training for sex crimes officers

很令人遺憾的是，一般來說，

警局沒有幫性犯罪警員 做足夠的訓練。

in the police department in general.

They were chronically understaffed,

長期以來，警局一直人手不足，

and they had other resource issues.

它們還有其他的資源問題。

And there was perpetual victim blaming

且當受害者到警局報案時，

會有無止盡的責怪受害者現象。

when these victims came to report their crimes.

That's the rape culture.

那就是強暴文化。

And because of this victim blaming

因為受到暴力侵害的人

of someone that had been violently assaulted,

還要承受這種責怪受害者的現象，

some of these victim were even ridiculed

有些受害者甚至被嘲弄

into not continuing to proceed with their case.

而決定放棄他們的案件。

The bottom line is, that 11,341 rape kits sat on that shelf.

結果就是，有 11,341 個 採集包躺在架子上。

I wanted transparency.

我想要有透明度。

I asked myself: How in the world can we stop this from spreading?

我問我自己：我們到底 要如何阻止這種狀況擴大？

I don't want to go through all this work and five, 10 years down the line,

我不希望到了五年、十年之後

還發現我們在處理著同樣的問題。

figure we have the same issue.

At that time, police officers had the sole discretion

那時，警員可以自行決定

about whether and when and if

他們是否要，以及何時

they were going to submit the rape kits for testing --

將強暴證據採集包——轄區中的 任何強暴證據採集包——送檢。

any rape kit in their jurisdiction -- for testing.

That had to change.

這一點必須要改變。

We had to take that discretion away from police officers,

我們得要把這項裁量權 從警員身上收回，

and pass state laws

並通過州法，

to ensure that every rape kit released by the victim to law enforcement

來確保每一個受害者交給 執法單位的強暴證據採集包

is tested immediately.

都會立即被檢測。

I also knew that there had to be some kind of system

我也知道，必須要有某種體制

to keep everybody honest and to keep everybody accountable, put in place,

落實執行，讓每個人都誠實、都負責，

where we knew where these rape kits were, at any given time.

讓我們在任何時候都知道 這些強暴證據採集包在哪裡。

The answer was simple.

答案很簡單。

Think about all of the hundreds of thousands

想想看所有數十萬個

and perhaps millions of packages,

也許數百萬個包裹，

that are moved by a logistics company every day.

每天被物流公司運送。

They are scanned and tracked,

它們會被掃瞄和追蹤，

and they know where they are, at every bend and turn,

它們在路上的哪個 轉彎處都很清楚，

from the time that they're stored in the warehouse,

從它們被存放在倉庫中開始，

until the time that that package arrives on the purchaser's front steps.

到包裹抵達購買者家門口 為止，都一清二楚。

Why couldn't we do that for rape kits?

為什麼強暴證據採集包不能這樣？

I had no desire to reinvent the wheel.

我沒有打算浪費大量的時間或精力 去重新創造已經存在的東西。

So I contacted UPS.

所以我聯絡了 UPS。

UPS, within two weeks -- two weeks --

UPS 在跟我們開會後的 兩個星期之內

of our first meeting with UPS,

——兩個星期——

they had come up with a major plan

他們就提出了一個大計畫，

where they involved all the stakeholders --

計畫中納入了所有利害關係人—— 警員、檢察官、醫療機構、

the police officers, the prosecutors, the medical facilities,

the forensic nurses, the hospitals,

法庭護士、醫院、

the lab personnel and the victim advocates,

實驗室人員，以及受害者的律師，

could know where the rape kits were at any given time.

他們都能隨時知道 強暴證據採集包的所在。

They sent a team of experts out

他們派出了一個專家團隊，

and fanned the Detroit area, talked to all the stakeholders

用扇形方式走訪整個底特律地區， 和所有利害關係人談過，

and developed a plan,

開發出了一個計畫，

and studied the life of a rape kit,

並研究了強暴證據 採集包的生命過程，

from the time the rape kit was collected,

從採集包被收集起來，

through to the time that it was tested in the lab

到被送到實驗室中檢測，

and returned to the police personnel.

再回到警方人員手中。

They also developed a web-based portal

他們也開發了一個網路入口網站，

that all the stakeholders could look into and see where any given rape kit was

讓所有的利害關係人可以隨時查詢

任何強暴證據採集包的所在。

at any given time.

UPS had the technology,

UPS 有技術，

UPS knew how to use that technology to solve our problem,

UPS 知道如何用那技術 來解決我們的問題，

and we didn't.

而我們不知道。

We launched -- we, we --

我們推出了——我們，我們——

UPS and the prosecutor's office --

UPS 和檢察官辦公室——

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

launched this pilot program in Detroit.

在底特律推出了這個試驗性計畫。

And we started this process on January 28, 2015,

2015 年 1 月 28 日，

我們開始了這個計畫流程，

through to May 25 of 2016.

一直到 2016 年 5 月 25 日。

And during that period of time --

在那段時間——

remember, we're not dealing with the ones we found,

我們處理的不是我們找到的那些， 因為它們已被儲存了——

because they'd already been stored --

我們在處理的是新的採集包， 2015 年 1 月 28 日之後進來的。

we're dealing with any new kit that came in as of January 28, 2015.

And we knew where that rape kit was.

我們知道那些採集包在哪裡。

For the 16 months of this project, we didn't lose a single rape kit.

在進行這個計畫的 16 個月中，

我們沒有弄丟任何一個 強暴證據採集包。

Not a single one.

一個都沒掉。 我們知道每一個的所在。

We knew where they all were.

(Applause)

（掌聲）

This project went on until the state of Michigan,

這個計畫繼續進行，直到密西根州

the elected officials in state government,

州政府的民選官員

took notice of everything that UPS was doing.

注意到了 UPS 所做的一切。

And everything that my office was doing.

我的辦公室所做的一切。

And they decided that they were going to use state funds

他們決定他們要用州資金

to develop a state-wide tracking system.

來開發全州的追蹤系統。

Not in just Detroit, but state-wide tracking system.

不只是在底特律， 而是全州的追蹤系統。

Hopefully, that system will be up and running soon.

希望那個系統會盡快 推出並開始運作。

But I loved working with UPS.

但我很愛和 UPS 合作。

I loved their innovation, I loved how fast they worked,

我愛他們的創新， 我愛他們的工作效率，

I loved their unorthodox approach to ideas to solve an everyday, common problem,

我愛他們用非正統方法來想出 點子，解決日常常見的問題，

whose solution should be simple.

這些問題的解決方案 應該是很簡單的。

So, after working with them

所以，在和他們合作之後，

I knew that even with one company,

我知道，即使只有一間公司，

working on one issue,

處理一個議題，

the progress that could be made.

還是可以有所進展。

We've been at this now for nine years.

我們已經做了九年了。

And it was nine years ago

九年前，

that we rescued those rape kits from the warehouse.

我們從倉庫中救出了 那些強暴證據採集包。

That warehouse has since been torn down.

之後那間倉庫就被拆除了。

But all of the kits have either been tested,

但所有的採集包都已經被檢測，

or are in the final stages of being tested.

或是已經在檢測的最後階段。

We still have a lot of work to do

就這些案件的調查和起訴方面，

in terms of investigation and prosecution of those cases,

我們還有很多要做的工作，

but our rape kit issue, in terms of testing, is done.

但我們的強暴證據採集包 檢測問題已經解決了。

As of June 28, 2018,

到 2018 年 6 月 28 日，

our CODIS hits have showed us and identified 2,600 suspects.

我們的 CODIS 已經 辨識出了 2,600 名嫌犯。

We have identified 861 serial rapists.

我們比對出了

861 位連續強暴犯。

Just within this project.

只是在這個計畫之內。那就表示，

That means 861 potential defendants

有 861 個可能的被告人

that have raped within the project two or more times.

在這項計畫的範圍內 就犯了兩次以上的強暴。

And 50 to 75 of them have raped 10 to 15 times a piece.

他們當中有 50~75 人

犯下強暴的次數達 10~15 次。

In one city, in one state.

都在一個城市內，在一個州內。

Also, the CODIS results that we have

此外，我們得到的 CODIS 結果

have tentacles to crime scenes,

也和犯罪現場有所關聯，

have linkages in 40 states in the United States.

在美國的 40 個州內都有連結。

Forty of the 50 states have tentacles to our crime testing of these rape kits.

50 州中就有 40 個州

和我們這些強暴證據採集包的 犯罪檢測結果有關。

From Alaska to Florida

從阿拉斯加到佛羅里達，

and from Maine to the most southern parts of California.

從緬因到加州的最南部。

A sea to shining sea, string of CODIS hits.

從一岸到另一岸， 一連串的 CODIS 比對吻合。

Natasha is now 36 years old.

娜塔莎現在 36 歲了。

When she heard about the work that we were doing with the rape kits,

當她聽到我們對於 強暴證據採集包所做的努力，

she contacted my office, the Wayne County prosecutor's office.

她聯絡了我的辦公室， 韋恩縣檢察官辦公室。

Her kit was eventually tested.

她的採集包終於被檢測了。

And it had identified Paul Warwick.

且確定了行兇者的身分 為保羅·沃維克。

In the interim, Paul Warwick had raped two more women.

在這段期間，保羅沃維克 又強暴了兩個女人。

One in the state of Colorado.

一位在科羅拉多州。

Paul Warwick is now serving a sentence in the Michigan Department of Corrections,

保羅·沃維克現在在密西根懲教署，

在監獄服刑，刑期 15~40 年。

in prison, of 15 to 40 years.

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Pamela's kit was also tested.

潘美拉的採集包也被檢測了。

And her kit led to the identification -- her CODIS hit on her kit --

結果指認出—— 她的採集包 CODIS 比對——

led to the identification of Bernard Peterson.

比對出伯納·彼得森。

In the interim, Bernard Peterson raped 10 more women.

在這段期間，

伯納·彼得森又強暴了十個女人。

Each of those women had a rape kit done.

這十個女人都有完成 強暴證據採集包。

And each of those women's rape kits sat on that shelf next to Pamela's.

她們的採集包通通都放在架上， 潘美拉的採集包旁邊。

For a varying number of years.

分別放了很多年。

伯納·彼得森現在 在密西根懲教署服刑，

Bernard Peterson is now serving a sentence

in the Michigan Department of Corrections,

concurrently -- that means at the same time --

一併——也就是同時——

of 60 to 90 years, and 90 years to 125 years,

為他所犯下的強暴

服 60~90 年及 90~125 年的刑期。

for the rapes that he committed.

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We still have a lot of work to be done.

我們還有很多工作要做。

And we desperately need the help of the private sector.

且我們非常需要私人部門的協助。

We need the help of the tech industry.

我們需要科技產業的協助，

To help us develop -- not help us, we want them to develop --

協助我們開發——不是我們開放， 我們希望他們能開發——

information management systems,

資訊管理系統，

so we can all talk to each other

這樣我們所有人就能彼此溝通，

and stop these perpetrators

阻止這些行兇者，

from raping and maiming and killing with impunity.

不讓他們強暴、傷人、 殺人卻不受懲罰。

We also need help from those of you

我們也需要有行銷 和廣告背景的人的協助。

with marketing and advertisement backgrounds.

We need you, desperately we need you,

我們需要你們，非常需要你們，

to develop campaigns for our children and other people to listen to,

來設計活動，讓我們的 孩子們和其他人能聽見，

so we can stop the culture, change the culture of rape victims

這樣我們才能阻止、改變這種文化，

強暴受害者因為太害怕 後果而不敢站出來的文化，

being too afraid to come forward because of what may happen to them.

UPS was one company, as I said.

如我所言，UPS 只是一家公司。

They helped us with their innovation,

他們用他們的創新來協助我們，

and they revolutionized the way that we can track rape kits.

他們改革了我們追蹤 強暴證據採集包的方式。

Every single aspect of our lives is tracked.

我們生活中的每一個面向 都是可以追蹤的。

Every like, every mood,

每一種喜好、每一種心情、

shopping history, browsing history, reading history,

購物歷史記錄、 瀏覽歷史記錄、閱讀歷史記錄、

our entire web history is tracked these days.

這些年來我們所有的 網路歷史記錄都被追蹤著。

What if we could track the activities and the comings and goings

如果我們能夠追蹤犯罪者的活動

以及來來去去的記錄，會如何？

of criminals who commit crimes?

Just like people track every aspect of our lives.

就像別人追蹤我們 生活的每一個面向一樣。

In 2015, the Obama White House

2015 年，歐巴馬政府

and the US Department of Justice

和美國司法部

put the number of untested, abandoned rape kits at 400,000,

將全國各地未被檢測、丟棄的

強暴證據採集包總數 定為 40 萬個。

across this country.

Four hundred thousand.

40 萬個。那是全國性的流行現象。

That's a national pandemic.

We know where a lot of those kits are.

我們知道許多這些 採集包當的所在。

Our testing showed

我們的檢測顯示，

that women were raped waiting in their cars, waiting for friends,

有女性在車中等待時、 等待朋友時、

on their way to work, on their way from work,

在上班路上、在回家路上、

at gas stations, at shopping malls.

在加油站、在購物中心被強暴。

And even one of the first cases that we did

當我們開始檢測這些採集包時，

when these rape kits were starting to be tested,

最早做的其中一個案件

was a man who came into the window

是一名男子走近窗戶，

and got into the bed and raped a woman who was in bed with her two children.

爬進臥室並強暴了 和兩名孩子躺在床上的女子。

He raped her while he was in bed with her two children.

他強暴她的時候， 床上還有兩個孩子。

Every time I look at a rape victim that comes into my office,

每當我看著來到 我辦公室的強暴受害者，

because their case is being called

不論是因為她們的案件被傳喚， 或因為檢察官要與她們面談，

or they're being interviewed by the prosecutor,

她們都在為了案件做準備， 我看著她們的眼睛，心想，

they are being prepped for case,

I look into their eyes and I think to myself,

they didn't have to be one of the ones that was raped.

她們並不需要成為被強暴的人。

They didn't have to be one of those victims.

她們並不需要成為受害者人。

And maybe they would not have been, if these rape kits had been tested timely.

如果及時檢測那些強暴證據採集包， 她們就不會遇到這種事。

How many more Pamelas are in this world?

這個世界上還有多少個潘美拉？

How many more Natashas are in this world?

這個世界上還有多少個娜塔莎？

We may never know.

我們可能永遠不會知道。

But what I do know is that you have the technology,

但我確實知道的是，你們有技術，

you know how to use it

知道如何使用它，

and you can help us solve the problem of rape kits being stockpiled.

你們能夠協助我們解決 強暴證據採集包堆積成山的問題。

Thank you.

謝謝。

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