A new way to monitor vital signs (that can see through walls) | Dina Katabi
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譯者: Thomas Tam
審譯者: 易帆 余
00:13
When I was a kid,
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小時候的我,
00:14
I was, like many of you in this room,
very much fascinated by Star Wars,
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我跟現場的大部分人一樣,
很迷《星際大戰》,
00:19
and what fascinated me the most
is this notion of the Force,
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尤其是「原力」的概念,
00:23
this energy that connects
all people and all objects
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這股能量能將人與物體做連結,
00:26
and allows you to feel people
that you can't even see.
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即使是看不見的人,你也能感應到。
00:30
And I remember many nights,
I would be sitting at home,
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我記得有好幾個晚上坐在家裡,
00:33
just, like, concentrating and focusing,
trying to feel the Force,
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嘗試著專注並認真感受那股「原力」;
00:38
and I didn't feel anything, don't worry.
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別擔心,我甚麼也沒感受到。
00:41
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
00:43
And later in life, I became a scientist.
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後來,我成為了一名科學家。
00:45
I joined the MIT faculty
and started working on wireless signals.
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加入麻省理工學院的教師行列,
開始研究無線電信號。
00:51
These are things like Wi-Fi
or cellular systems,
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像是 Wi-Fi 或蜂巢式系統這類科技,
00:54
and I did a lot of work in that domain.
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我在那領域做了許多。
00:57
But then, again, this Force thing
kept nagging me,
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但「原力」這件事,一直在腦中盤旋,
01:02
and at some point, I was just like,
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有些時候,我在想,
01:04
"Wait a minute, these wireless signals --
they are like the Force."
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「等等,這些無線電信號,
就像是『原力』。」
01:08
So if you think about it,
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各位可以想像一下,
01:09
wireless signals,
they travel through space,
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無線電信號可以穿透空間、
01:12
they go through obstacles
and walls and occlusions,
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障礙物、牆壁及遮擋物,
01:16
and some of them,
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而部分無線電信號,
01:17
they reflect off our bodies,
because our bodies are full of water,
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會被充滿水分的身體所反射,
01:21
and some of these minute reflections,
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這些微小的反射信號
01:23
they come back.
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會被傳送回來。
01:25
And if, just if, I had a device that can
just sense these minute reflections,
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如果、要是有一個可以測量那些微小
反射無線電信號的儀器,
01:32
then I would be able to feel people
that I cannot see.
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就能偵測到看不見的人。
01:36
So I started working with my students
on building such a device,
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所以,我就開始和學生一起
建造這樣的儀器,
01:40
and I want to show you
some of our early results.
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我想向各位展示一些早期的成果。
01:44
So here, you see my student standing,
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各位看一下,我的學生站在這裡,
01:46
and here is our device.
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這邊擺了一台儀器。
01:48
And we are going to put the device
in the other office, behind the wall,
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我們把這個儀器擺放在
牆後的另一間辦公室,
01:54
and we are going
to monitor him as he moves.
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用來監視他的移動情況。
01:57
This red dot is tracking him
using wireless signals.
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這個紅點會跟踪他的無線電信號。
02:02
And as you can see, the red dot
is tracking his movements very accurately,
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如你所見,這紅點可以
非常準確地跟踪學生的動向,
02:07
purely based on how his body interacts
with the surrounding wireless signals.
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純粹因應他的身體與周圍
無線電信號的互動。
02:13
Pretty accurate, isn't it?
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非常準確,是嗎?
02:16
He has no wearables, nothing.
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身上沒有穿戴式裝置或類似物件。
02:18
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
02:21
Now you might be wondering,
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你可能會覺得奇怪,
02:23
how is it possible
that we can sense people
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在沒有任何穿戴式裝置的情況下,
02:26
and track them, without
any wearables, through walls,
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如何能穿透牆壁感應到有人的存在?
02:30
and the easiest analogy
to think about is radar.
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最容易想到的類比訊號就是雷達。
02:33
I'm sure many of you
have seen this picture.
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我確定很多人有看過這照片。
02:35
You transmit a wireless signal to the sky,
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無線信號向天空發送,
02:37
it reflects off some airplane,
comes back to you,
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有飛機的地方,訊號會反射回來,
02:40
and you start detecting these airplanes.
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如此就可以偵測到飛機。
02:44
But if it were just radar,
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但如果只是雷達,
02:46
then we would have this 50 years ago.
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50 年前就已經有了。
02:49
So it's not just radar.
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所以這不僅僅是雷達。
02:51
There are two key differences.
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其實有兩個關鍵的區別。
02:54
So the first difference, of course --
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第一個區別當然是——
02:56
you can't, like radar, just blast
wireless power at somebody.
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你不能像雷達一般,向某人發射
強大功率的無線電波;
02:59
You're going to fry them
like if they were in a microwave.
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他們會像在微波爐中爆炸。
03:02
Don't do that.
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不能這樣做。
03:04
So it means that you have to be able
to deal with very weak signals,
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意思就是要用非常微弱的信號,
03:09
and that means that your device
has to be very sensitive.
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而且儀器必須很靈敏。
03:14
The second difference is that,
unlike the sky, where it's empty --
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第二個區別是,天空的空間是空的,
但地面上就不同——
03:18
if you are lucky, there is one airplane
that you can catch there.
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如果你夠幸運,你可以在
天空中偵測到一架飛機。
03:21
Like, look at the room
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可是,看看這個房間
03:22
and look how many objects
and people there are.
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有多少人和物品。
03:25
So in indoor environments, the signal
not only reflects off the person,
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在室內環境中,不僅是
個人會反射信號,
03:29
if reflects off the person,
off the floor, the ceiling,
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地板、天花板、
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off other people around,
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和周圍的人等,
03:35
and you get very complex reflections
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都會造成複雜的反射情況,
03:37
where the same signal reflects
off me and then off you,
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同樣的信號會從我身上、你身上、
03:40
and then off the ceiling,
then off the floor.
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天花板及地板接連反射。
03:42
And you have to make sense of that mess.
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你必須弄清楚這些混雜的訊號。
03:47
But we were lucky.
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但我們很幸運。
03:49
We were coming at the right time.
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在適當的時間點切入這領域。
03:53
So two things helped us.
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以下兩點對我們很有幫助。
03:55
The first thing is radiotechnologies
have evolved a lot,
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首先是無線電技術的進化很快,
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and over the last decade,
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在過去十年,
04:01
radio technology
became much more powerful,
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無線電技術變得更加成熟,
04:03
so we were able to build
very sensitive radios
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讓我們能夠建構出收發
靈敏度高的無線電儀器,
04:07
that can sense weak and minute RF signals.
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讓我們可以偵測到
細小微弱的無線電訊號。
04:11
The second thing: machine learning.
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第二件事,就是機器學習。
04:14
So you keep hearing about machine learning
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各位最近一直聽到機器學習,
04:16
and there was a revolution
of machine learning recently,
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最近深度學習
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in deep learning,
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發生了很大的變革,
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and that allowed us to build
machine-learning models
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使得我們能夠開發機器學習模型
04:24
that can understand wireless signals
and interpret them
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來處理和解讀無線電信號,
04:28
so they would know what happened
in the environment.
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探知環境中發生了什麼事情。
04:31
So if you think of it,
the radio is like the ear of our device
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無線電收發器就像儀器的耳朵
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and the machine learning
is like the brain,
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機器學習就是大腦,
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and together, they have
a very powerful device.
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它們一起構成了一個高效能的儀器。
04:44
So what else can we sense about people
using wireless signals?
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那麼,無線電信號還能檢測出甚麼?
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Sleep.
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睡眠。
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Sleep, actually, is something
very dear to my heart,
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確實,睡眠對我來說很寶貴,
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because my sleep is a disaster.
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因為我的睡眠品質很爛 。
04:56
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:57
So one thing is when you start working
on some physiological signal
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當你開始研究某些生理信號時
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and you discover that yours sucks.
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你會發現自己的睡眠品質有多爛。
05:03
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:07
So you can see why we can capture sleep,
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你會理解為什麼我們可以
捕捉到睡眠的狀況,
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because the person walks and the device
sees him as he walks to bed,
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因為儀器可偵測到人何時走向床邊、
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when he stops tossing around in bed,
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何時翻身、
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when he steps out of bed,
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何時下床,
05:16
and that measure of sleep
is what people call actigraphy.
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並透過活動記錄儀
評估該人的睡眠品質。
05:20
It's based on motion.
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根據人的動作。
05:23
But it turned out
that we can actually get sleep
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結果我們發現,我們可以
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at a much more important level.
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更進一步地偵測到睡眠品質的等級。
05:28
We can understand
the change in the brain waves
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我們可以透過儀器,
了解腦波在睡眠期間的變化。
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that occur during sleep.
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05:35
So, many of you probably know
that as we go to sleep,
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很多人可能知道,當我們在睡覺時,
05:38
our brainwaves change
and we enter different stages:
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腦電在不同睡眠階段
會有不同的變化,分別有:
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awake, light sleep, deep sleep
and REM, or rapid eye movement.
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清醒、輕度、深度睡眠
和快速動眼 ( REM )階段。
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These stages are of course
related to sleep disorders,
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這些不同階段都與睡眠障礙有關,
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but they are also related
to various diseases.
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亦與各種疾病相關。
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So for example, disturbances in REM
are associated with depression.
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例如,紊亂的快速動眼階段
與憂鬱症有關。
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Disturbances in deep sleep
are associated with Alzheimer's.
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紊亂的深度睡眠與阿茨海默症有關。
06:04
So if you want to get sleep staging,
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如今,如果你想了解你的
睡眠階段狀態,
06:07
today, you will send the person
to the hospital,
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你要去醫院檢查,
06:09
they put all of these
electrodes on their head,
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他們會在你在頭上放很多電極片,
06:12
and they ask them to sleep like that.
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並要求你要這樣去睡覺。
06:13
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:16
It's not really a happy experience.
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這種體驗並不愉悅。
06:20
So what if I tell you
that I can do the same thing
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如果我告訴你,我可以在
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but without any of these electrodes
on the person's body?
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不須要任何電極片的情況下
做同樣的事呢?
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So here is our device,
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這一台是我們的儀器,
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transmitting very low power
wireless signal,
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傳輸非常低功率的無線電信號,
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analyzes the reflections using AI
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用人工智能分析反射回來的信號,
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and spits out the sleep stages
throughout the night.
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檢測整個晚上的睡眠狀態。
06:38
So we know, for example,
when this person is dreaming.
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例如,我們可以知道,
這個人何時開始做夢。
06:44
Not just that ...
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不僅如此......
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we can even get your breathing
while you are sitting like that,
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我們還可以在不接觸的情況下,
偵測到你坐著時的呼吸狀況,
06:49
and without touching you.
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06:51
So he is sitting and reading
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這個人正坐著看書,
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and this is his inhales, exhales.
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這是他的吸氣和呼氣。
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We asked him to hold his breath,
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我們要求他,停止呼吸,
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and you see the signal
staying at a steady level
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各位可以看到,信號保持穩定
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because he exhaled.
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因為他呼氣,
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He did not inhale.
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沒有吸氣。
07:05
And I want to zoom in on the signal.
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我想放大信號。
07:07
And this is the same signal as before.
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這與之前的信號相同。
07:09
These are the inhales,
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這些是吸氣,
07:11
these are the exhales.
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這些是呼氣。
07:13
And you see these blips on the signal?
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各位有看到信號上的這些尖音訊號嗎?
07:15
These are not noise.
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這些不是噪音。
07:17
They are his heartbeats.
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是他的心跳。
07:19
And you can see them beat by beat.
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有節拍的。
07:23
So I want to stop here for a moment
and show you a live demo.
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所以我想先暫停一下,
向各位展示活體示範
07:27
Zach is going to help me with the demo,
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扎克會協助我作示範;
07:29
and we're going to use the device
to monitor Zach's breathing.
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我們使用一個儀器監控扎克的呼吸。
07:35
So this white box
that you see here is the device,
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這個白盒是儀器,
07:39
and Zach is turning it on ...
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扎克會把開關打開......
07:43
and let's see whether he breathes well.
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我們來看看他的呼吸如何。
07:46
So we're going to do exactly what we did
in the video with the other guy,
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我們會在影片中做同樣的事情,
07:50
so the wireless signal is going through,
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無線信號正在穿過
07:53
it's touching Zach's body,
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接觸扎克的身體,
07:55
and it's reflecting back to the device,
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訊號反射回儀器,
07:57
and we want to monitor his breathing,
his inhale-exhale motion.
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我們想監視他的
吸氣和呼氣的動作。
08:00
So we see the inhales, exhales --
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因此我們看到,
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so see, these ups and downs
are Zach breathing.
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這些跌宕起伏,都是扎克的呼吸。
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Inhaling, exhaling.
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吸氣,呼氣。
08:12
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
08:17
So, he can breathe.
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那麼,他可以呼吸。
08:20
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:21
Zach, can you hold your breath, please?
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扎克,你能停止呼吸一下嗎?
08:25
OK, so now he's holding his breath,
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現在他停止呼吸了,
08:28
so you see the signal stays
at a steady level,
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信號保持穩定水平,
08:30
and these are his heartbeats.
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這些都是他的心跳。
08:32
Beat, beat, beat, beat, beat.
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跳動、跳動、繼續跳動。
08:35
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
08:36
OK, Zach, you can breathe again.
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扎克,你可以再次呼吸了。
08:38
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:40
We don't want accidents here.
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我們不想在這裡發生意外。
08:42
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:43
OK, thank you.
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謝謝。
08:45
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
08:51
So as you can see, we have this device
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如各位所見,我們的儀器
08:54
that can monitor so many
physiological signals for you,
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可以監控很多生理信號,
08:58
and what is really interesting
about this device
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這儀器有趣的是
09:01
is that it does all this
without any wearables,
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在不需要任何穿戴式裝置下
可以做很多事情,
09:03
without asking the person
to change his behavior
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也不需要受偵測的人,
改變任何行為,
09:06
or to wear anything
or charge anything special.
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或配戴任何特殊的充電設備。
09:09
And that got doctors very excited,
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這讓醫生異常興奮,
09:12
because doctors,
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因為醫生,
09:13
they always want to know
more information about their patients,
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總是希望能更了解病人的情況,
09:16
particularly at home,
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特別是在家裡,
09:18
and this is particularly true
in chronic diseases,
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尤其是那慢性病,
09:20
like pulmonary diseases, like COPD,
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像肺部疾病、慢性阻塞性肺病、
09:24
or heart failure or Alzheimer's
and even depression.
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心臟衰竭、阿茨海默症,
甚至是憂鬱症。
09:29
All of these chronic diseases
are very important.
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這些慢性疾病都非常重要。
09:31
In fact -- perhaps you know --
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事實上,也許你知道
09:34
two-thirds of the cost
of health care in the US
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美國醫療保健費用有三分之二
09:37
is due to chronic diseases.
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是用於治療慢性疾病。
09:39
But what is really interesting
about chronic diseases
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但是慢性病真正有趣的地方是,
09:42
is that when the person, for example,
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當病人,比如,
09:43
has a problem that leads
to the hospital and the emergency room,
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有問題導致要進入醫院和急診室時,
09:48
this problem doesn't happen overnight.
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那些問題不會在一夜之間發生。
09:51
Actually, things happen gradually.
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事情是逐漸惡化的。
09:53
So if we can monitor
chronic disease patients in their home,
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因此,我們可以在
慢性病患的家中監測他們的情況,
09:56
we can detect changes in their breathing,
heartbeat, mobility, sleep --
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洞察他們的呼吸、心跳、
活動及睡眠的變化,
10:01
and we can detect emergencies
before they occur
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就能夠在緊急事故發生之前察覺,
10:05
and have the doctor intervene earlier
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讓醫生能及早介入,
10:07
so that we can avoid hospitalization.
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如此就可以不用住院。
10:10
And indeed, today we are working
with multiple doctors
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事實上,我們在不同的疾病類別上
10:14
in different disease categories.
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與多名醫生合作。
10:16
So I'm really excited
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因此我很興奮,
10:17
because we have deployed the device
with many patients.
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因為我們分發了儀器給許多病人;
10:20
We have deployed the device
with patients that have COPD,
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發給 COPD 也就是
慢性阻塞性肺病的患者,
10:24
which is a pulmonary disease,
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10:25
patients that have Alzheimer's,
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阿茨海默症患者,
10:27
patients that have depression and anxiety
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及患有憂鬱和焦慮的病人,
10:29
and people that have Parkinson's.
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還有帕金森症的病人。
10:32
And we are working with the doctors
on improving their life,
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我們協助醫生更好地掌握病情,
10:35
understanding the disease better.
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進行改善病人的生活質素,
10:38
So when I started, I told you
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因此,在我一開始,告訴過你
10:41
that I'm really fascinated with Star Wars
and the Force in Star Wars,
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我對《星際大戰》中的
「原力」非常著迷,
10:46
and indeed, I'm still
very much fascinated,
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沒錯,我還是相當著迷,
10:50
even now, as a grown-up, with Star Wars,
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即使是現在,身為一個成年人,
10:52
waiting for the next movie.
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還是很期盼下一部《星際大戰》電影。
10:54
But I'm very fascinated now and excited
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但現在我非常著迷和興奮的是
10:59
about this new Force of wireless signals,
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關於這種新的無線電信號「原力」,
11:03
and the potential of changing
health care with this new force.
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及透過其力量改變醫療保健的潛力。
11:07
One of the patients with whom
we deployed is actually my aunt.
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其中有分發到儀器的病人,
我的阿姨就是其中之一。
11:10
She has heart failure,
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她有心臟病,
11:12
and I'm sure many of you guys
in the audience
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而且我相信你們當中很多人
11:16
have parents, grandparents,
loved ones who have chronic diseases.
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有父母、祖父母,
或是患有慢性疾病的親人。
11:21
So I want you to imagine with me a future
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請和我一起想像未來,
11:24
where in every home
that has a chronic disease patient,
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在每個有慢性病患者的家中,
11:26
there is a device like this device
sitting in the background
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有一個像這樣的儀器,作為後盾,
11:30
and just monitoring passively
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被動地監測
11:32
sleep, breathing, the health
of this chronic disease patient,
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慢性病患者的睡覺、呼吸和健康狀況,
11:37
and before an emergency occurs,
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在緊急事故發生之前,
11:39
it would detect the degradation
in the physiological signal
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儀器會檢測出退化的生理信號,
11:42
and alert the doctor
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並提醒醫生作預先處理,
11:43
so that we can avoid hospitalization.
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這就可以避免住院治療的需要。
11:46
This can change health care
as we know it today,
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這可以改寫今天的醫療保健狀況,
11:49
improve how we understand
chronic diseases
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加深我們對慢性疾病的了解,
11:52
and also save many lives.
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並且還可以挽救許多生命。
11:54
Thank you.
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謝謝。
11:56
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
12:01
Helen Walters: Dina, thank you so much.
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海倫‧沃爾特斯:迪娜,
非常感謝你。
12:03
Thank you too, Zach.
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也謝謝你,扎克。
12:04
So glad you're breathing.
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很高興你還有呼吸。
12:05
So Dina, this is amazing.
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迪娜,這太棒了。
12:08
The positive applications are incredible.
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這積極的應用很了不起。
12:11
What is the framework, though,
like the ethical framework around this?
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但使用的機制,
使用儀器的道德機制如何呢?
12:15
What are you doing to prevent
this technology from being used
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你要如何防止這項技術
12:18
for other, perhaps less positive
types of applications?
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應用在不太正面的層面上?
12:22
Dina Katabi: Yeah, this is
a very important question, of course,
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狄娜·卡塔碧:這當然是
一個重要的問題,
12:25
like, what about misuse,
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被不當利用怎麼辦?
12:26
or what about, I guess you could say,
about the Dark Side of the Force?
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或者可以問,「原力」的黑暗面呢?
12:30
HW: Right, right.
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沃爾特斯:對。
12:31
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
12:33
DK: So we actually have technologies
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卡塔碧:實際上我們有技術
12:36
that prevent people
from trying to use this device
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阻止人們嘗試使用此儀器,
12:41
to monitor somebody without their consent.
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在未經患者本人同意之下
監測他的情況。
12:43
Because the device understands space,
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因為儀器能掌握空間,
12:45
it will ask you to prove,
by doing certain movements,
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它要有你的准許,
12:49
that you have access to the space
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才能進入某個空間,
12:51
and you are the person
who you are asking the device to monitor.
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而你就是儀器的監控人。
12:54
So technology-wise,
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技術方面,
12:56
we have technology
that we integrate to prevent misuse,
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我們將防止濫用的技術
整合到系統中,
13:00
but also, I think there is a role
for policy, like everything else,
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但我想政策扮演同樣重要的角色,
就像其它科技一樣,
13:03
and hopefully, with the two of them,
we can control any misuse.
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我們希望,有了這兩方面的管制,
就能控制任何的不當使用。
13:09
HW: Amazing. Thank you so much.
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沃爾特斯:很棒。非常感謝。
13:10
DK: Thank you.
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卡塔碧:謝謝。
13:12
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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