José Andrés: How a team of chefs fed Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria | TED

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翻译人员: Maggie Wang 校对人员: Qinyang Zeng
00:12
All right, let's get ready for the worst TED Talk ever.
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来,让我们欢迎 TED 史上最烂的演讲。
00:15
(Laughter)
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(笑)
00:20
I mean it. We prepared 30 minutes ago.
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我说真的,30 分钟前 我们还在临时抱佛脚。
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I want to have it clear -- I love to be here with you all,
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我要说清楚—— 我很高兴和你们一起在这里,
00:26
but I wanted to be here not to tell my story
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但我不想在这儿说我的故事,
00:28
but to tell the story of the amazing people of Puerto Rico
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我是想说说那些神奇的波多黎各人,
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that came together to feed the people of Puerto Rico.
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为了给灾民做饭而聚在一起的故事。
00:39
My name is José Andrés, and you know I love to feed the few,
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我叫 José Andrés, 我喜欢给一些人做饭,
00:41
but even more, I love to feed the many.
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但其实,我更喜欢服务更多的人。
00:44
Here, right after the hurricane,
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这里,就在飓风过后,
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like we'd done many times before after an earthquake in Haiti
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就像我们在海地地震后,
00:51
or Sandy or others,
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在飓风桑迪或其他的灾害后常做的,
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I had this sense of urgency to be there
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我都有种想要飞奔而去的急迫感,
00:58
and to try to feed one person,
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哪怕是能给一个人做饭也好,
01:00
and always, you have crazy friends that want to join you
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然后事实总是, 有一群疯子朋友想加入你,
01:03
in those impossible endeavors.
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一起做些不可思议的尝试。
01:04
I'm always surrounded by amazing friends that only help me to be better.
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我身边总有些令人惊喜的朋友, 让我变得更好。
01:08
Nate came next to me.
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比如坐在我身边的 Nate。
01:11
This was a Monday, and this is what we found.
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当时是周一, 我们看到的是这样的场景,
01:15
The destruction you saw on TV, one more hurricane,
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你在电视上看到的破坏 感觉不过又是一次飓风,
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but this destruction was real.
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但这个破坏是真真切切的。
01:21
More than 95 percent of the electricity in the island was gone.
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这个岛上超过 95% 的电力被毁坏了。
01:26
Every single electric post was gone.
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每一个电线杆都毁了。
01:28
All the cell towers were gone.
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所有的基站都没了。
01:30
You couldn't communicate with anybody.
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你联系不到任何人。
01:33
You couldn't find anybody the moment you moved away from San Juan.
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你一离开圣胡安(波多黎各首都) 就找不到任何人,
01:37
Even in San Juan, we had issues trying to use our cell phones.
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甚至在圣胡安,使用手机也不方便。
01:42
And what I found was that the island was hungry,
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而且我发现,这座岛屿正处于饥荒中,
01:49
and the people didn't have money, because ATMs were not working,
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人们没有钱,因为 ATM 机不能用,
01:54
or their cards, which are electronic, for food stamps,
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而他们参与食品补助项目的电子卡
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they couldn't use it in their supermarkets,
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也不能在超市中使用,
02:00
or there was no food or gas or clean water to cook.
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没有食物、燃气, 也没有干净的水煮饭。
02:05
The need and the urgency of now was real,
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当前面临的需求和紧迫感很真实,
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and I was just able to get into a meeting at FEMA,
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我刚参加完 美国联邦应急管理署(FEMA)的会议,
02:14
where many of the main NGO partners were having a conversation
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会上许多主要的 非政府组织成员都在讨论
02:20
about how to feed the island in the weeks to come,
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我们要如何在未来几周 为岛上的居民提供食物,
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but the urgency was right now, in this minute, in this second,
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但是这个问题迫在眉睫, 此时此刻就得解决,
02:28
and we almost had three million people that needed to be fed.
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而且我们要服务将近三百万人。
02:32
So we began doing what we do best.
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因此我们开始尽我们最大的努力。
02:34
We went to see the sources of food,
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我们去查看食物的来源,
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and I was able to see that the private industry actually was ready
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然后我发现那些私人餐馆 实际上是可用的,
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and prepared and thriving,
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已经完全准备好了,
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but somebody at FEMA was not able even to be aware of that.
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但美国联邦应急管理署的一些人 并没有意识到这点。
02:44
And what we did was use fine kitchens.
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于是我们用了那些现成的厨房。
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José Enrique, one of my favorite men in the whole world,
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这是 José Enrique, 这世界上我最喜欢的一个人,
在圣胡安最棒的一个餐厅工作。
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one of the great restaurants in San Juan,
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where before landing, I began calling all the chefs of Puerto Rico,
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在我到达前,我开始召集所有 来自波多黎各的厨师,
02:55
and everybody was like, "Let's not plan, let's not meet,
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结果大家的反应都是 “别计划了,别开会了,
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let's start cooking."
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我们直接开始做吧。”
03:02
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:03
And that's what we did.
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然后我们就那么做了。
我们开始为波多黎各人提供食物。
03:05
We began feeding the people of Puerto Rico, on a Monday.
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在一个周一,我们做了 1000 顿 sancocho,
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On a Monday, we did a thousand meals, sancocho, an amazing stew
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一道用玉米、丝兰和猪肉 做的美味的炖菜。
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with corn and yucca and pork.
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03:15
By Sunday, we were doing 25,000.
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到周日为止, 我们已经做了 25000 份。
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By Sunday, we already didn't only use the restaurant,
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周日开始,我们不仅在饭店煮饭,
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but we rented the parking lot right across.
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我们还租了正对面的停车场。
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We began bringing food trucks,
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我们开始使用流动餐车,
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and a rice and chicken paella operation, and refrigerators,
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一套做米饭鸡肉派的器具,还有冰箱,
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and volunteers began coming.
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然后志愿者就开始来了。
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Why? Because everybody wants to find a place to help,
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为什么?因为每个人 都想找一个地方去帮忙,
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a place to do something.
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一个能做点什么的地方。
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This is how we began our first delivery.
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这是我们第一次送外卖的场景。
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The hospitals -- nobody was feeding the nurses and the doctors,
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在医院—— 没有人 为医生和护士提供食物,
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and we began feeding our first project,
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于是我们开始了第一个项目,
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Hospital Carolina.
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为 Carolina 医院提供食物。
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All of a sudden, every single hospital was calling us.
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突然之间, 每一家医院都在召唤我们。
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"We need food so we can feed our 24/7 employees
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“我们需要提供食物给 那些全天全周工作的员工。
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taking care of the sick and the elderly and the people in need."
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他们正在照顾病人、老人, 和那些需要帮助的人。”
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And then the place was too small. We were receiving orders.
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后来地方不够用了, 而我们又一直在接订单。
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Every time we got one guest, one customer,
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每次只要有一个顾客来,
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we never stopped serving them,
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我们都从不拒绝为他们服务。
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because we wanted to make sure that we were able to be stabilizing
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因为我们想要确保 每一个我们加入的地方,
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any place we were joining,
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当地的组织都是长期稳定的,
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any city, any hospital, any elderly home.
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在任何城市、任何医院、 任何养老院都是如此。
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Every time we made contact with them, we kept serving them food, day after day,
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每一次联系他们,我们都会 日复一日的为他们准备食物。
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so we needed to grow.
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因此我们需要扩大队伍。
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We moved into the big coliseum.
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我们搬到了一个大体育场。
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25,000 meals became 50,000 meals,
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25000 顿饭变成了 50000 顿,
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became, all of a sudden, the biggest restaurant in the world.
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体育场突然间变成了 世界上最大的餐厅。
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We were making close to 70,000 meals a day
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仅在这一个地方, 我们每天就能提供
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from one location alone.
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将近 7 万顿饭。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
志愿者开始几百人几百人的加入。
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Volunteers began showing up by the hundreds.
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At one point, we got more than 7,000 volunteers
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在高峰期,我们有 超过 7000 名志愿者,
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that were at least one hour or more with us,
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每天至少和我们一起 工作一小时或更久,
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at any given moment, more than 700 people at once.
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在任何时候, 都有超过 700 人在一起。
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You saw that we began creating a movement,
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可以看出, 我们发起了一次运动,
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a movement that had a very simple idea everybody could rally behind:
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用一个很简单的想法 把大家都凝聚起来:
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let's feed the hungry.
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让我们为饥饿的人们提供食物。
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And we began making food that people could recognize,
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然后我们开始制作 人们能辨别的食物,
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not things that come from a faraway place
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不是那些从很远的地方运来
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in plastic bags that you open and you cannot even smell.
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包在塑料袋里的 打开后甚至闻不出味的东西。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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We began making the foods that people feel home.
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我们开始制作 有家乡味道的食物。
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People in these moments, they had this urgency of feeling they are alive,
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在那一刻,人们非常需要 一种活着的感觉,
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that somebody cares.
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有人关心的感觉。
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One meal at a time,
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每一餐,
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it didn't only become something used to bring calories to their bodies,
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食物不仅为他们提供了
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calories that they needed,
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身体所需的卡路里,
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but they needed something else.
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更是成为了某种慰藉。
他们想要确保你,你,你,还有你,
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They wanted to make sure that you and you and you and you,
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that you were caring,
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没有被遗忘,
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that we were sending the message that we are with you.
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我们是在传递一个信号, 我们一直陪着你们。
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Give us time, we are trying to fix this.
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给我们点时间, 我们正想办法处理好这一切。
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That's what we found every time we began joining the communities.
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这是每次我们加入社区时发现的。
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Fresh fruit began coming,
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新鲜的水果来了,
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even when in FEMA, they were asking me,
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甚至在 FEMA,也有人问我,
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"José, how are you able to get the food?"
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José,你怎么得到这些食物的?
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Simple: by calling and paying and getting.
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很简单啊:打电话,付钱,就拿到了。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:05
(Applause)
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(掌声)
06:10
We began feeding people in San Juan.
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我们开始为圣胡安人提供食物。
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Before you knew, we were feeding the 78 municipalities all across the island.
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在此前,我们已为全岛 78 个城市提供了食物。
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We needed a plan. One kitchen alone was not going to feed the island.
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我们需要一个计划, 单独一间厨房没办法供应全岛。
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I went to FEMA. They kicked me out with eight armored guards and AK-47s.
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我去了 FEMA,然后被 8 个 端着 AK-47 的装甲守卫赶出去了。
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I told them, "I want 18 kitchens around the island."
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我告诉他们,“我需要 18 个厨房 分散在岛上各处。"
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Guess what? Three days ago, we reached our 18th kitchen
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你们猜怎么着?3 天前, 我们得到了第 18 个厨房,
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around Puerto Rico.
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所有厨房遍布波多黎各。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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People began being fed.
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人们不再饿肚子。
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Volunteers kept showing up.
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志愿者不断涌现。
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We never had any system to deliver the food, people would tell me.
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人们会说, 我们没有任何运送食物的机制。
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Sure, we had the system.
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我们当然有这个机制。
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The entire island of Puerto Rico was the perfect delivery system.
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整个波多黎各就是 最完美的运送机制。
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Anybody with a truck wanted to help.
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每个有卡车的人都想帮忙。
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Anybody going from A to B was for us the way to be bringing hope
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每一个从 A 到 B 的人都在帮我们
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and a plate and a whole meal to anybody.
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给另一个人带去希望、 一个盘子或一顿正餐。
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We began finding amazing systems to do these food trucks,
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我们找到了一套超棒的机制 去运作这些流动餐车,
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10 amazing food trucks.
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10 辆超棒的流动餐车。
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We began learning not to use the place that needed the food,
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我们开始学着 不仅要去需要食物的区域,
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but the number,
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还要看数字,
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the number of the apartment:
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公寓的数量:
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Lolo, a 92-year-old veteran that was surrounded by water.
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Lolo,一位 92 岁的退伍军人, 被洪水困住。
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We began giving not only hope to people,
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我们开始不仅带给人们希望,
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but knowing their names,
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还要知道他们的名字,
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checking day after day,
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日复一日的检查,
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making sure that those elderly people will never, ever again feel alone
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确保那些老人 在面对这些破败的景象时,
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in a moment of disrepair.
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永远不再觉得孤单。
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And we began going to the deeper areas,
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我们开始更深入灾区,
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places that all of a sudden, the bridges were broken,
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那些走到之处, 桥会突然坍塌的地方,
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but we had to go, because it was easy to stay in San Juan.
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但我们不得不去, 因为圣胡安的情况并不算很糟。
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We had to go to those places that actually, they really needed us.
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我们应该去那些 真的非常需要我们的地方。
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And we kept going, and people kept waiting for us,
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我们继续前进, 人们也一直等着我们,
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because they knew that we will always show up,
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因为他们知道, 我们一定会出现。
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because we will never leave them alone.
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因为我们永远不会丢下他们。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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The food trucks became our angels,
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流动餐车成了我们的天使,
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and the food trucks kept sending hope,
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流动餐车不停送去希望,
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but we saw we needed more:
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但是我们需要的更多:
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Vieques and Culebra, two islands far away from the island --
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Vieques 和 Culebra 是两个离这里很远的岛——
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somebody had to be feeding them.
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那里的居民也需要得到食物。
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We didn't only bring food and make a hotel kitchen operation in Vieques
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我们不仅带来了食物, 还在 Vieques 布置了一套酒店厨房,
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and bring daily food to Culebra.
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然后每天为 Culebra 送去食物。
08:19
We brought the first water purification system
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我们为 Vieques 岛带去了
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to the island of Vieques,
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第一套净水系统,
08:24
where we could be filtering one gallon per minute.
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每分钟可过滤一加仑水。
08:26
All of a sudden, big problems become very simple,
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突然之间,那些令人头痛的问题
08:29
low-hanging fruit solutions,
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都迎刃而解了,
08:31
only by doing, not planning and meeting in a very big building.
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行动才能解决问题, 光在大楼里计划和开会可不行。
08:35
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:37
And then we found creative ways.
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我们还用了一些创造性的方法。
08:38
We needed helicopters. We asked. We got.
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我们需要直升机, 我们提了要求,然后得到了。
08:41
We needed planes. We asked, we paid, and we got.
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我们需要飞机。我们提了要求, 我们付钱,然后得到了。
08:44
We kept sending food to those places that really were in need.
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我们不停的把食物 送去那些真正需要它们的地方。
08:48
And the simple ideas just become powerful.
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简单的想法已经变得强大。
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Volunteers will go to the edges of the island.
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志愿者们会去岛上的每个角落。
08:56
All of a sudden, it was a movement.
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这突然变成了一场运动。
08:58
The teams of World Central Kitchen
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世界中央厨房的人,
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will be received with prayers, with songs, with claps, with hugs,
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迎接他们的是无处不在的 祈祷,歌声,鼓掌,拥抱,
09:05
with smiles.
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还有微笑。
09:07
We were able to connect in so many corners.
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我们把各地的人联系在了一起。
09:10
When I tell you that even the National Guard began calling us
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我还要告诉你们, 国民警卫队也在邀请我们,
09:14
because our national poor guy's guards,
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因为我们可怜的国民警卫们,
09:18
big heroes in a moment of chaos,
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这些混乱时刻的大英雄们,
09:20
they couldn't get a simple humble plate of hot food.
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他们甚至吃不上一口 简单热乎的饭菜。
09:26
And partnerships show up.
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然后合作伙伴们出现了。
09:28
Mercy Corps,
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有慈善团,
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HSI from Homeland Security,
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有来自国土安全局的 健康安全研究所,
09:33
partnerships that they didn't happen calling the top.
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很多并不是 由高层号召而来的合作伙伴。
09:36
They happened in the hotel room, in the middle of the street,
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它们都是在酒店房间里, 或者在街头,
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in the middle of the mountains.
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又或者在大山里发展而来的。
09:41
We saw that by working together, we can even reach more people.
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我们发现通过一起努力, 可以联系到更多人。
09:45
Partnerships that happen by logic,
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因当前的压力和紧迫的形势
09:49
and the urgency of now is put to the service of the people.
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而聚集的伙伴们, 都为了能给大家服务。
09:53
When we have emergency relief organizations,
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当我们成立紧急救援组织时,
09:56
we cannot be planning about how to give aid a month from now.
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我们可没时间拿一个月出来 计划如何提供救助。
10:00
We have to be ready to start giving help
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我们不得不在一些事发生后,
10:03
the second after something happens.
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立刻准备好提供救助。
10:08
And children were fed,
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孩子们有吃的了,
10:10
and all of a sudden, the island,
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突然间,
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while still in a very special moment
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这个岛仍处在非常时期,
10:18
where everything is fragile,
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所有的一切都很脆弱,
10:20
we saw that an NGO like ours --
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我们看到另一个非政府组织——
10:22
we didn't want to break the private sector --
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和我们一样, 不想打扰私营单位——
10:26
that already, small restaurants were being opened,
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有些已经开始营业的小餐厅,
10:29
that somehow, normalcy,
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某种程度来说, 情势已经回到正轨了,
10:32
whatever normalcy means today in Puerto Rico, was happening.
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不同时期的评判标准不同, 但总之是开始变好了。
10:36
We began trying to be sending the message:
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我们开始向外传递信号:
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we need to start moving away from the places
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我们要逐渐离开那些
10:40
that are already stabilized
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形势得以控制的地区,
10:43
and keep concentrating in the areas that really need help.
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然后把精力集中在 真正需要帮助的地方。
10:47
(Video): People of Puerto Rico, two million meals!
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(视频声):波多黎各人, 需要两百万顿饭!
10:53
José Andrés OK, let me translate this to you.
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José Andrés: 好的, 现在我来翻译一下。
10:55
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:59
Almost 28 days later,
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大约 28 天后,
11:04
more than 10 food trucks,
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超过 10 辆餐车,
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more than 7,000 volunteers,
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超过 7000 名志愿者,
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18 kitchens ...
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18 个厨房——
11:11
we served more than two million meals.
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我们为超过两百万人提供了食物。
11:15
(Applause)
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(掌声)
11:25
(Applause ends)
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(掌声结束)
11:26
And you guys coming here to TED, you should be proud,
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你们今天来听 TED, 应该感到骄傲,
11:29
because we know many of you, you are part of the change.
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因为我们知道你们中很多人, 会成为变化的一部分。
11:33
But the change is only going to happen if after we leave this amazing conference,
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但变化只会发生在 我们离开这场奇妙的演讲之后,
11:37
we put the amazing ideas and inspiration that we get,
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当我们带着一些奇妙的想法和灵感,
11:41
and we believe that nothing is impossible,
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一切皆有可能的信念,
11:44
and we put our know-how to the service of those in need.
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以及我们的经验, 投身到为需要者提供服务中去。
11:48
I arrived to an island trying to feed a few people,
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我到了一个岛, 试着为一些人提供食物,
11:51
and I saw a big problem,
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然后我发现了一个大问题,
11:54
and all of a sudden, the people of Puerto Rico saw the same problem as me,
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然后忽然间, 波多黎各人发现了同样的问题,
11:59
and only we did one thing:
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然后我们只做了一件事:
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we began cooking.
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我们开始做饭。
12:03
And so the people of Puerto Rico
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接着波多黎各人
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and the chefs of Puerto Rico, in a moment of disrepair,
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以及波多黎各的厨师, 在这灾难之时,
12:09
began bringing hope,
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开始带去希望,
12:12
not by meeting,
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不是通过会议,
12:13
not by planning,
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也不是通过做计划,
12:16
but with only one simple idea:
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而是通过一个简单的想法:
12:19
let's start cooking and let's start feeding
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让我们开始煮饭,让我们开始
12:22
the people of Puerto Rico.
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填饱波多黎各人的肚子。
12:23
Thank you.
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谢谢。
12:25
(Applause)
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(掌声)
12:27
Dave Troy: Go back out.
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Dave Troy(DT): 请回到舞台。
12:28
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
12:29
DT: The public loves you.
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DT:大家都爱你。
12:30
(Applause)
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(掌声)
12:37
Nate Mook: A couple of quick questions,
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Nate Mook(NM): 快速问几个问题,
12:39
because I think some folks would be interested to hear.
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因为我觉得有些人可能感兴趣。
12:42
So as you said, you came the first time,
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正如你所说 , 你是第一次来波多黎各,
12:45
got on the ground,
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参与筹备,
12:47
went to the government command center,
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去了政府指挥中心,
12:50
started to have some meetings with people,
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和一些人一起开了会,
12:52
and they weren't very receptive.
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而他们并不十分接受。
12:55
José Andrés: This is great. This is how good my talk was.
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José Andrés(JA): 你总结得很好,说明我的演讲还不错。
12:58
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
13:00
It's the first talk with a follow-up in the history of TED.
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这是 TED 史上第一次 演讲后还有访谈的。
13:03
I feel so good.
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我感觉很棒。
13:05
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
13:06
NM: So tell us why, what were some of the challenges,
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NM:那说说为什么, 是什么样的挑战,
13:08
and then when you noticed, they started coming to you to ask you.
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还有你什么时候注意到 他们开始向你求助。
13:13
JA: We cannot be asking everything from Red Cross or Salvation Army.
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JA:红十字会或救世军 不会所有东西都求助我们。
13:16
But the idea is, I donated before to those organizations,
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但我的想法是, 我可以提前给那些组织捐赠,
13:20
and they are the big organizations,
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它们是大组织,
13:22
and maybe the problem is that we're expecting too much from them.
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可能问题就是, 我们总是对他们期望太多。
13:26
It's not like they didn't do what they were supposed to do.
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这不是说他们没有完成 他们应该做的事,
13:31
It's that the perception is that that's what they do.
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而是说大家理所当然认为 那些应该由他们做。
13:35
But all of a sudden, you cannot get into a moment like this and wash your hands,
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但是你无法介入之后 还想着全身而退,
13:40
and you say somebody else is going to be picking it up.
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然后还希望别人能帮你填坑。
13:45
We had a simple problem that had a very simple solution.
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简单的问题自有简单的方法解决。
13:50
This was not a faraway country
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这不是一个遥远的国家,
13:53
or the Green Zone in Baghdad.
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也不是巴格达的安全区。
13:55
This was American soil,
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这是美国的土地,
13:57
a beautiful place called Puerto Rico,
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一个叫波多黎各的胜地。
13:59
with hundreds, thousands of restaurants and people willing to help,
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有着成百上千个餐厅, 和热情相助的人。
14:05
but all of a sudden, we had people hungry,
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但是突然有很多人饿肚子了,
14:07
and we didn't have a plan how to feed them in the short term.
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我们却没有计划 如何在短期内喂饱他们。
14:12
So yes, FEMA, to a degree, was thinking about how to feed the people.
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所以是的,FEMA 在某种程度上, 正在思考如何为人提供食物。
14:18
Red Cross didn't have the right answers,
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红十字会也不会有妥善的答复,
14:20
because Southern Baptist Church, the biggest food organization in America,
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因为美国最大的食品组织, 南方浸礼会,
14:24
my heroes, they were never called to Puerto Rico.
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我的英雄们, 他们从来没有想到波多黎各。
14:29
When you see the Red Cross delivering food in America after a hurricane,
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当你看见飓风后 红十字会在美国分发食物,
14:32
it's Southern Baptist Church doing it.
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那一定是南方浸礼会的旨意。
14:35
We didn't have that in Puerto Rico.
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这在波多黎各是没有的。
14:38
Salvation Army came and asked me for 420 meals on a Wednesday rainy night
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在一个周三的雨夜, 救世军 来找我们帮忙,给当地一家老年商店
14:42
for a local elderly shop.
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提供 420 顿饭,
14:44
I love to help the Salvation Army,
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我很愿意帮助救世军,
14:47
but in my world, they are the ones who are supposed to be helping us
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但是在我的世界里, 他们才应该是提供帮助,
14:53
to answer those calls of help.
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去响应那些呼救的。
14:56
Thursday morning is when I wake up super worried
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周四早上,我忧心忡忡的醒来,
14:59
that actually we didn't have the plan to feed the island.
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我们确实没有对供餐一事列计划。
15:03
And some people will say maybe you are making the problem
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也许有些人会说,我们反而让问题
15:06
bigger than it was.
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变严重了。
事实上,有好多好多组织
15:08
Well, we had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of organizations
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15:12
knocking on our door, asking for a tray of food,
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敲我们的门, 问我们要一盘食物,
15:16
so if that's not proof that the need was real ...
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所以如果这都不能证明 他们确实需要我们......
15:19
We cannot be feeding people in America anymore with MREs
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我们不能再给美国人提供快餐了,
15:23
or something like you open and, you know,
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或者是那种一打开 就能吃的,你们懂的,
15:25
I was giving to this little cat a little bit of those same foods --
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我也在给小猫一样的食物——
15:30
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
15:31
and then I gave them the chicken and rice we made,
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然后我把我们做的鸡和米饭给它们,
15:34
and they went for the chicken and rice.
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然后它们开始喜欢上鸡和米饭。
15:36
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
15:37
(Applause)
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(掌声)
15:39
They don't even eat that themselves.
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他们甚至自己都不吃。
15:41
We can feed humanity for a day or two or five,
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我们可以为人提供食物, 一天、两天或五天,
15:45
but those MREs cost, like, 12, 14, 15, 20 dollars to the American taxpayer.
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但这些快餐要花美国纳税人 差不多12,14,15,20美元,
15:51
It's OK for certain moments,
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在某些时刻是可以的,
15:52
during battle,
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比如作战期间,
15:54
but not to be feeding Americans for weeks and weeks and weeks,
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但是不能这样几周几周的提供食物。
15:58
when actually, you can be hiring the local private business community
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的确,你可以外包给当地的私企,
16:03
to do the same job better, creating local jobs,
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他们能把同样的事做得更好, 还能增加当地就业,
16:07
helping the local economy to come back,
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帮助当地经济恢复,
16:09
and in the process making sure that everything was going to go back
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并在过程中确保所有事都回到正轨,
16:13
as normal as quick as possible.
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尽可能快的恢复正常。
16:15
That's where we began cooking.
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我们最初就在这儿煮饭。
16:17
You were there with me,
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你们也在那儿,
16:19
and that's why we spent every single dollar we had in our credit cards.
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这就是为什么我们要 花光信用卡里每分钱。
16:23
If AmEx is listening to this, please, a discount would be appreciated.
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如果运通卡的人正在听, 请给个折扣,不胜感激。
16:27
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
16:29
Or Visa.
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Visa 卡也一样。
16:31
NM: So what's the situation now?
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NM:那么现在进展到哪一步了?
16:34
You know, it's been a month.
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你知道,已经一个月了。
16:36
You said there's been some improvements in San Juan
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你说圣胡安的情况 已经得到一些改善,
16:39
and focus on the areas outside,
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你们开始关注其它区域,
16:41
but obviously there are still major challenges, and what's next?
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但显然还有一些关键挑战, 接下来要做什么?
16:45
JA: There are. So what's next is we slowly began going down
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JA:是的。接下来 我们会慢慢深入灾区,
16:50
after, more or less, FEMA let us know
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FEMA 已经或多或少的透露出
16:52
that they thought they had everything under control
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一切已尽在掌握,
16:54
and we were no longer needed,
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而我们也不再被需要,
16:57
but you only believe everything so much.
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但你知道情况仍然不容乐观。
17:01
We moved from the big place you saw, 60,000 meals a day,
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我们会从这片 每天做 6万 顿餐的大区域搬走,
17:06
to another one, as big, but more strategically located,
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去一个同样很大,但更有挑战,
17:09
also cheaper,
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也更便宜的地方,
17:12
where we are going to be making 20-25,000 meals a day,
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在这里,我们每天要做 20000 到 25000 顿饭。
17:14
and then we are leaving four, five, six kitchens
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然后我们会去建造4,5,6个厨房,
17:17
strategically located around the island,
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战略性部署在岛上每个角落,
17:20
very high up in the mountains, in the poor areas.
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在高高的山上,在一些贫困地区。
17:23
We got a lot of data.
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我们有很多数据。
17:25
We know who is using SNAPs, who is using food stamps,
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我们知道谁参与了营养补助项目, 谁在用食品券,
17:28
the cards.
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食品卡。
17:31
We know who has them and we know who is using them.
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我们知道谁有,也知道谁会用。
17:34
So in the parts of the island where nobody is using them,
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所以岛上那些不用食品券的地方,
17:38
those are the parts of the island where we are going to be focusing our efforts.
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也就是我们格外关注的地方。
17:41
So it's amazing how sometimes simple data can give you a clue
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所以简单的数据有时 也能带来一些线索,
17:44
of who are the people in need.
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告诉你谁更需要帮助,这太棒了。
17:47
So we went to a town called Morovis.
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我们去了一个叫 Morovis 的小镇,
17:51
Beautiful.
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非常漂亮。
17:52
The best chicken restaurant in the history of mankind.
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那里有人类历史上 最棒的烹鸡餐厅。
你们都该去试试。
17:55
You should all travel to Morovis.
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17:57
DT: Sounds good.
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DT:听上去不错。
17:58
JA: So I saw the chicken. We were bringing sandwiches.
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JA:我看到了鸡。 我们当时带着三明治。
18:00
I stopped. I was with these Homeland Security officers.
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我停了下来。我当时是和 国土安全局的人在一起。
18:03
We ate the chicken.
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我们把鸡吃了。
18:04
I left to drop these sandwiches in this other place called San Lorenzo.
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然后我把三明治 带去了San Lorenzo。
18:09
San Lorenzo was critical, because the bridge was broken,
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San Lorenzo 的形势很严峻, 因为桥都断了,
18:12
and so it was an island inside the island,
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几乎成了岛中岛,
18:14
a little community surrounded by water.
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一个被水包围的社区。
18:16
Everybody told us, "It's a disaster down there."
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所有人都说:“那边情况很糟。”
18:19
We dropped the sandwiches.
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我们送去了三明治。
18:20
I went back to Morovis, and I thought,
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等我回到 Morovis,我就琢磨,
18:22
you know, if it's a disaster, sandwiches is not enough.
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如果那边很糟, 那三明治肯定是不够的。
18:25
I brought 120 chickens,
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于是我就带着 120 只鸡,
18:27
with yucca and with rice,
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一些丝兰和米饭,
18:30
and we went back to that broken bridge,
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重新回到断桥那里,
18:32
we crossed the river,
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渡过小河,
18:35
water up to everywhere.
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水漫得到处都是。
18:37
We arrived with the 120 chickens,
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我们带着 120 只鸡到了,
18:40
we dropped the food,
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刚放下食物,
18:41
and the community were very thankful, but they told us,
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社区的人很感激我们, 但他们说,
18:45
"We're OK, we don't need more food.
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“我们很好,不需要更多食物了。
18:47
We have gas, we have money,
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我们有燃气,有钱,
18:49
we have good food and our water is clean.
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有很好的食物,和干净的用水。
18:52
Take care of the other communities around us that are in more need."
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去照顾我们周围的社区吧, 他们更需要帮助。”
18:55
You see, communication is key.
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你们看,沟通才是关键。
18:58
In these scenarios, we can be relying on fake news
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在这种境遇下, 我们可能会相信假新闻,
19:02
or we can be having the real information that we can make smart decisions
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但我们更应该获取真实的信息, 做更明智的决定,
19:07
to really take care of the true issues.
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把精力放到更严峻的问题上。
19:09
That's what we are doing.
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这就是我们在做的。
19:11
(Applause)
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(掌声)
19:16
NM: It was an amazing operation,
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NM:很棒的运作。
19:19
and to witness it firsthand and to play a small role --
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尤其是我还有幸以一个 小角色的身份亲眼目睹了全程——
19:22
JA: You made it happen.
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JA:有你的功劳。
19:24
NM: At its peak, I think you were up to about 150,000 meals
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NM:我想你们最高纪录是 为全岛居民一天做了
19:28
per day, across the island,
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将近 15 万顿饭,
19:30
which is pretty incredible.
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真的难以置信。
19:32
And I think, at the same time, really sort of setting a model
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我觉得与此同时, 你也在树立一个典型,
19:35
for how this can be done, hopefully, moving forward.
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告诉我们该怎么做, 希望这能让我们更进一步。
19:38
I mean, I think that's one of the big learnings out of this --
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我觉得,这比这件事本身更有意义——
19:41
DT: This is possible. You know, people can replicate this.
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DT:这很有可能。 人们可以效仿这些做法。
19:44
JA: But I'm going to stop coming to watch TED Talks,
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JA:但我应该不会 再看 TED 演讲了,
19:47
because you've got ideas that anything can happen.
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因为你们已经知道 一切皆有可能。
19:49
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
19:51
And then my wife told me,
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我老婆和我说,
19:54
"Man, you told me you were going to cook a thousand meals a day.
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“你说你要在一天内煮一千顿饭,
19:57
I cannot leave you alone for a day."
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我还整天整天的不让你清静。”
19:59
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
20:02
But I hope that World Central Kitchen --
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但我希望世界中央厨房——
20:05
you know, one thing we did I didn't say:
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还有一件事我没说:
20:07
I picked up the phone and I began calling people,
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我拿起电话,开始给那些
20:09
people that I thought had expertise that could help us.
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我觉得有专长 又能帮我们的人打电话。
20:13
So I picked up the phone and I called a company called Bon Appétit, Fedele.
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然后我给一个叫 Bon Appétit, Fedele 的公司打了电话,
20:17
Bon Appétit's one of the big catering companies.
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Bon Appétit 是最大的餐饮公司之一。
20:19
They do food for Google and for arenas.
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他们给谷歌和一些 大型活动场所供餐。
20:23
They're out of California.
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他们不属于加利福尼亚州,
20:24
They belong to a bigger group called Compass.
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而是属于一个叫 Compass 的大集团。
20:27
And I told them, "You know what?
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我说,“你们知道吗?
20:29
I need cooks, and I need cooks that can do volume
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我需要一些厨子, 能一下做很多饭的厨子,
20:34
and that can do good, quality volume."
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要做得又好又多。“
20:37
In less than 24 hours, I began getting people and chefs.
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然后不到 24 小时, 我就招到帮手和厨师了。
20:40
At one point, we got 16 of the best chefs that America can offer.
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我们一度招到 16 个 全美最棒的厨师。
20:44
You see, America is an amazing heart country
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你们可以发现, 美国是一个助人为乐的国家,
20:48
that always is sending their best.
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永远在展现出最好的一面。
20:50
What we've been learning over the years
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我们这么多年学到的是,
20:52
is that those chefs of America are going to be playing a role
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这些美国厨师将要扮演一种角色,
20:56
in how we are going to be feeding America and maybe other parts of the world
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在关键时刻,能够喂饱全美人民
20:59
in times of need.
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以及世界其它地方的人。
21:01
What we need to start
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我们需要开始做的是,
21:02
is bringing the right expertise where the expertise is needed.
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把合适的专长带去需要它们的地方。
21:06
Sometimes I have a feeling, like with FEMA,
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我有时感觉,像 FEMA 这样的组织,
21:09
we are bringing the wrong expertise in the areas that it's not even needed.
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给一些地方带去了 无用且不合适的经验。
21:13
The people of FEMA are great people.
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但 FEMA 的人都很棒。
21:15
The men and women are smart,
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大家都很聪明,
21:17
they are prepared,
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准备工作也很到位,
21:18
but they live under this amazing hierarchy pyramidal organizational chart
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但他们的组织架构是金字塔型的,
21:23
that everybody falls out of their own weight.
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所有人都无法完全施展才能。
21:26
We need to be empowering people to be successful.
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我们要给予大家成功的机会。
21:29
What we did was a flatter organizational chart
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我们是一个扁平化的组织,
21:32
where everybody was owning the situation
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所有人都有自主权,
21:35
and we all made quick decisions to solve the problems on the spot.
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所以我们能快速决策, 快速解决问题。
21:38
(Applause)
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(掌声)
21:41
DT: Absolutely.
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DT:那当然。
21:42
(Applause)
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(掌声)
21:43
Another round of applause for José Andrés.
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再给 José Andrés 一些掌声。
21:45
(Applause) (Cheering)
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(掌声)(欢呼)
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