3 ways to create a space that moves you, from a Broadway set designer | David Korins

翻译人员: jacks peng 校对人员: Yan Gao

You're sitting there,

你正坐在那里，

and it's incredibly frustrating.

无比烦躁。

简直令人抓狂。

It's maddening.

You've been sitting there for hours,

你已经坐在那几个小时了，

filling in those little tiny circles with your No. 2 pencil --

用你的2B铅笔涂写那些小圆圈——

this is a standardized test.

这是一场标准化考试。

You look up, half-erased chalkboard,

你抬起头，看见擦了一半的黑板，

you can see that perfectly written cursive alphabet,

看见笔体完美的草书，

the pull-down maps,

下拉的地图，

you can hear, tick, tick, tick, ticking on the wall, that industrial clock.

你能听到嘀嗒、嘀嗒、嘀嗒， 墙上的时钟发出的声音。

But most importantly, you can feel that oppressive fluorescent light,

但最重要的是，你能 感觉到那压抑的荧光灯，

that death ray over your head.

你头上的死亡之光。

Bzzzzzz.

嗡嗡嗡。

And you can't take it anymore, but you don't have to,

你无法继续忍受了， 但也不需要忍受了，

因为考官姐姐说，“好了， 孩子们，交卷了。”

because Miss Darling says, "OK, boys and girls, you're done."

于是你跳起来——一溜烟地消失。

So you jump up -- I mean, there is nothing left of you but a vapor trail.

You move so quickly, you slam that little molded plastic chair,

你动作迅速，砰的一声 推进那把塑料椅子，

and you sprint down the hallway;

在走廊狂奔，

you go past the Lysol smell and the BO smell and the cubbies,

身边飘过消毒水味儿， 臭鞋味儿，还有柜子，

你推开那扇门——

and you push the door --

(Inhales deeply)

(深深吸入)

and finally, you're outside.

终于，你到外面了。

Oh, you can feel the wind on your face,

哦，你可以感受到清风拂面，

then the sun on your skin

和煦的阳光洒满每一个毛孔，

and most importantly, the big blue sky.

最重要的是，还有又大又蓝的天空。

That is a revelation of space.

这就是空间展示。

Making revelations of space is what I do; I'm a designer and creative director,

我的工作就是设计空间展示； 我是设计师和创意总监，

and that's what I do for a living.

这是我谋生的本领。

I do it for all sorts of people in all kinds of different ways,

我用各种方式为各色人群做设计，

and it might seem complicated, but it's not.

它可能看起来很复杂，但其实不然。

And over the next couple of minutes, I'm going to give you three ways

在接下来几分钟， 我会告诉你们三个方法，

应该可以把它们用在你们的世界里，

that I think you can move through your world

so that you, too, can make revelations of space, or at least reveal them.

这样你们也可以设计 空间展示，或者至少看懂它。

Step one: therapy.

第一步：问诊。

I know, I know, I know: blah, blah, blah, New Yorker, blah, blah, blah, therapy.

我知道我知道：巴拉巴拉， 纽约客，巴拉巴拉，诊疗。

但真的，问诊——你得知道 你为什么做这些东西，对吧？

But seriously, therapy -- you have to know why you're doing these things, right?

当我接到设计《汉密尔顿》的工作时，

When I got the job of designing "Hamilton,"

我和作家林-马努艾尔 · 米兰达

I sat with Lin-Manuel Miranda, writer,

Tommy Kail, director, and I said,

及汤米 · 凯尔导演坐在一起，我说，

"Why are we telling this 246-year-old story?

“为什么我们要讲述 这个246年前的老故事？

What is it about the story that you want to say,

你想讲这个故事的哪些方面，

and what do you want people to feel like when they experience the show?"

你希望人们在观看演出时 有什么样的感受？”

It's important. When we get that, we move into step two: the design phase.

这很重要，当我们理解了， 就可以进入第二步：设计阶段。

And I'll give you some little tricks about that,

我会给你们一些这方面的小技巧，

but the design phase is important because we get to make these cool toys.

但设计阶段之所以重要，是因为 我们可以做这些很酷的玩具。

I reach into Lin's brain, he reaches into mine,

我去理解林的想法， 他也来理解我的想法，

this monologue becomes a dialogue.

这段独白变成对白。

And I make these cool toys,

我做出这些很酷的玩具，

and I say, "Does this world look like the world

然后说，“这个世界看起来像是

能为你的戏剧提供舞台的世界吗？”

that you think could be a place where we could house your show?"

If the answer is yes -- and when the answer is yes --

如果他回答“是”——与答案相同——

我们就进入我认为最可怕的环节，

we move into what I think is the most terrifying part,

which is the execution phase.

执行阶段。

执行阶段是我们去 建造这些东西的时候，

The execution phase is when we get to build this thing,

and when this conversation goes from a few people to a few hundred people

几个人之间的沟通变成了 几百个人在诠释

这个创意。

now translating this idea.

We put it in this beautiful little thing,

我们把这个美丽的小东西放进

put it in the "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids" super-sizer machine

“亲爱的，我把孩子们缩小了” 里的那部放大缩小机器，

and blow it up full-scale,

把它放大到实际尺寸，

and we never know if we did it right

我们永远不知道我们是否做对了，

until we show up onstage and go, "Is it OK? Is it OK?"

直到自己站在舞台上，问 “这样可以吗，这样好吗？”

Here's the thing:

关键在于：

你不必成为作家林，

you don't have to be Lin,

you don't have to have a book that you want to turn into a show

要在现实生活中做到这些，

in order to do this in your real life.

你并不需要一个想搬上舞台的剧本。

You're already starring in a show, by the way. It's called your life.

你已经在开始表演了， 剧名叫你的人生。

Congratulations. (Laughter)

恭喜。 （笑声）

But seriously, Shakespeare said it: "All the world's a stage."

但严肃地说，莎士比亚说过： “世界是个大舞台。”

He nailed that part.

那部分他说得很对。

What he screwed up royally was that part where he said,

他搞错的是他说的另一部分：

"And we are merely players."

“男男女女只是演员。”

It's ridiculous. We're not merely players.

这很荒谬，我们不仅是演员。

We are the costume designers and the lighting designers

我们是服装设计师和灯光设计师，

and the makeup artists in our own world,

还是我们自己世界的化妆师，

我想让你们想象自己是 你们世界的布景设计师。

and I want to get you to think about being the set designer in your world.

Because I think you can leave here if you do these three steps

因为我认为在离开这里后， 假如你们做了这三个步骤，

再加上一些我马上就要 告诉你的小技巧，

and a couple of little tricks, as I said, I'm going to tell you,

and you can begin to change the world

你们就可以按自己的方式开始

改变你的世界。

the way you want to.

You want to do it?

准备好了吗？

OK. Everybody write a show.

好，每人写个剧本。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

不用，开玩笑的。

No. Just kidding.

OK. Step one: therapy. Right?

好，第一步：问诊，对吗？

How are you feeling?

你感觉怎样？

That's what the therapist says: "How are you feeling today?"

诊疗师往往会说：“你今天感觉怎样？”

记住这点很重要，因为 当我们为你设计世界时，

It's important to remember that, because when we design the world for you,

the therapy is important.

问诊是很重要的。

It tells you that emotion is going to become light and color.

它会告诉你，情绪 会变得明亮和有色彩。

关于这种光亮和色彩有个很好的例子，

A good example of that light and color

is a show I designed called "Dear Evan Hansen."

是一部叫《致埃文 · 汉森》的音乐剧。

（欢呼）

(Cheers)

《致埃文 · 汉森》在——哦老天——

"Dear Evan Hansen" exists -- oh my God --

《致埃文 · 汉森》存在于一个 几乎全是光和色彩的世界里。

"Dear Evan Hansen" exists in a world of almost all light and color.

So I chose a color: inky-black darkness.

所以我选择了一种颜色：漆黑。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

Inky-black darkness is a color the way that sadness is an emotion.

漆黑是悲伤的情绪色彩。

And this show transforms people, but not before it wrecks people.

这个演出让观众动情， 但在动情之前还要受点小折磨。

I bet you're wondering, "How expensive could the set possibly be to transform you

我打赌你在想，“如果在漆黑的黑暗中

if you sit for two hours and 20 minutes

坐了2小时20分钟，

in inky-black darkness?"

得多贵的布景才能打动你？”

The answer is: cheap!

答案是：花小钱就能办大事儿！

Inky-black darkness,

漆黑的黑暗，

turn the lights on at the right time.

在合适的时候打开灯光。

Seriously, think about leaving Miss Darling's class.

说真的，想象一下 从考官姐姐的教室跑出来。

Inky-black darkness gives way at the right moment,

漆黑在适当的时候让位，

我们飞跃那片墙，找到美丽的蓝天。

we fly away that wall and reveal a beautiful blue sky.

It blows people away and it transports them,

它让观众豁然开朗，思绪飞扬，

and it makes them feel hopeful.

让他们感受到希望。

And we know this because color is emotion,

我们知道这一点，因为颜色就是情绪，

and when you paint with color, you're painting with feelings.

你用颜色作画时，你是在用情绪作画。

So think about that emotion, the one I had you file away in your mental Rolodex.

那么想想你的情绪，刚才我让你 放在一边的那个情绪。

What color is it?

它是什么颜色？

它在你衣柜的什么地方， 在你家中的什么位置？

Where in your wardrobe does it exist, and where in your home does it exist?

When we design the show for you,

当我们为你们设计这部剧时，

we're going to use that color to tell you how you feel in certain times.

我们会用那个颜色来告诉你 在特定的时刻会有什么感受。

But also, you know this exists because you put the hero in white,

但同样，你也知道这些， 因为英雄都是白色，

you put the lead character in red, you put the villain in all black.

主角都是红色，反派都是黑色。

It's typecasting. You know that.

这是惯常做法，你知道这点。

So think about it.

所以考虑一下。

But there's also something else that happens in the world

但也出现了其他一些事情

来帮助我们安全地体验这个世界。

that helps us move through the world in a safe way.

They're called architectural standards.

它们叫做建筑标准。

They make us not fall down and go boom.

它们让我们不会跌倒和踩雷。

门把手都在同一高度。 灯光开关都在同一高度。

Doorknobs are all at the same height. Light switches are all at the same height.

Toilet bowls are always -- thank God -- at the same height,

抽水马桶总是—— 感谢上帝——在同一高度，

because no one ever misses the toilet bowl.

因为大家都够的着。

But seriously,

但说真的，

what would happen if we started to tweak those architectural standards

如果我们调整那些建筑标准 去获得我们想要的，

会发生什么？

to get what we wanted?

It reminds me of the stairs I made for Pee-Wee Herman.

这让我想起我为 皮威 · 赫尔曼做的楼梯。

Pee-Wee Herman is a child,

皮威 · 赫尔曼是个孩子，

and his entire world is created so that we perceive Pee-Wee as a child.

他的整个世界都打造成能让 我们把皮威看作孩子的风格。

The architecture and the furniture and everything come to life,

建筑、家具和一切都栩栩如生，

but nothing more important than those stairs.

但都没有这些楼梯重要。

Those stairs are 12 inches high,

这些楼梯有12英寸高，

so when Pee-Wee clomps up and down those stairs,

所以当皮威在楼梯上爬上爬下时，

he interacts with them like a kid.

他就像孩子般与楼梯互动。

你不能假装出那种互动的效果，

You can't fake that kind of interaction,

and that's the exact opposite of what we ask people in opera to do.

这和我们对歌剧演员的要求完全相反。

In opera, we shrink those stairs

在歌剧中，我们把楼梯的高度缩小，

so that our main characters can glide up and down effortlessly

这样主角可以毫不费力地上上下下，

without ever breaking their voice.

而不会干扰他们的歌喉。

You could never put an opera singer in Pee-Wee's Playhouse,

你永远不可能把一个歌剧演唱家 放在皮威的剧场里，

(Sings in Pee-Wee's voice) or they wouldn't be able to do their job.

（爬楼梯的皮威在唱歌） 那样歌剧演员就无法正常演出。

（笑声）

(Laughter)

但你不能把皮威放在歌剧布景里。

But you couldn't put Pee-Wee in an opera set.

He couldn't climb up and down those stairs.

如果他不能在那些楼梯上爬上爬下，

就不是皮威了。

There'd be no Pee-Wee.

他会像詹姆斯 · 邦德一样 优雅地上下楼梯。

He'd be like James Bond slinking elegantly up and down the stairs.

那根本行不通。

（笑声）

现在想想你的布景，你的家， 你每天都在怎样的地方。

It wouldn't work.

(Laughter)

Now think of your set, your home, what you exist in every single day.

如果你和我一样，会觉得垃圾桶太小，

If you're anything like me, the trash can is just too small

for the amount of takeout that you buy every night, right?

都装不下你每晚叫的 那些外卖包装，对吗？

And I find myself jamming like I'm kneading dough at a pizza place,

我发现自己需要像揉面团 一样使劲儿塞那个垃圾桶，

I'm jamming it in because I don't understand.

我一直往里塞，是因为我不明白。

Or, maybe the light switch in your foyer

或者，也许是你门厅的电灯开关

is just stashed behind too many precariously placed coats,

就藏在太多随意丢放的衣服后面，

and so you don't even go for it.

以致你都不想去够它。

Therefore, day after day,

因此，一天天过去，

you wind up walking in and out of a chasm of darkness.

你只能在黑暗的深渊里进进出出。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

It's true.

这是真的。

But what would happen if the space revealed something about yourself

但如果这个空间揭示了某些 连你自己都不了解的自我，

that you didn't even know?

会怎样？

Kanye never told me specifically that he wanted to be God.

坎耶从未明确告诉过我他想成为上帝。

But --

但——

(Laughter)

（笑声）

当我们开始一起工作时， 我们开始来回发送图片，

when we started working together, we were sending images back and forth,

and he sent me a picture of the aurora borealis

他给我发了一张北极光的照片，

with lightning strikes through it.

里面有闪电穿过。

And he sent me pictures from a mountaintop looking down

还有些照片是从山顶上

俯瞰着烟雾弥漫的峡谷，

at a smoke-filled canyon,

or smoke underneath the surface of water --

或雾气腾腾的水面——

like, epic stuff.

诸如史诗般的东西。

So the first set I designed for him was a huge light box

所以我为他设计的第一套布景 是一个巨大的灯箱，

with the name of his record label.

上面写着他唱片公司的名字。

他会志得意满地站在前面，

He would stand triumphantly in front of it,

它会像闪电一样发出闪光。

and it would flash lights like a lightning bolt.

很震撼，但是，只能算是初级震撼。

And it was epic, but, like, starter-kit epic.

我们继续前进，变成一大片天空， 天空中间有一条裂缝，

We moved on to a large swath of sky with a tear down the middle,

and through the tear, you could see deep parts of the cosmos.

通过裂缝，你可以看到宇宙的深处。

Getting closer.

我就快说完了。

We evolved to standing on top of an obelisk,

我们进化到站在方尖碑上，

standing on top of a mountainside, standing on top of boxes.

站在山腰上，站在盒子上。

他作为艺术家在空间中进化，

You know, he was evolving as an artist through space,

and it was my job to try and keep up.

我的工作就是努力跟上。

When we did Coachella,

当我们做柯契拉音乐节时，

there he was,

他现身了，

站在一个80尺宽、 40尺高的古风工艺品前，

standing in front of an 80-foot-wide by 40-foot-tall ancient artifact,

literally handed down from God to man.

毫不夸张，是上帝 把他亲手交给人类的。

He was evolving, and we were all witness to it.

他在进化，我们都见证了这点。

And in his last show, which I didn't design but I witnessed,

在他的上一次演出中， 我没有参与设计，但见证了

he had self-actualized.

他实现了自我。

He was literally standing on a floating plexiglass deck

他站在一个浮动的有机玻璃甲板上，

over his adoring fans,

下面是崇拜他的粉丝，

who had no choice but to praise to Yeezus up above.

粉丝没得选，只能 仰头赞美上方的“耶酥”。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

He had deified himself.

他把自己神化了。

You can't become Yeezus in your living room.

你在家里的客厅是变不成耶稣的。

The space told him who he was about himself,

那个空间告诉了他关于自己的一切，

and then he delivered that to us.

然后他向我们传达了这点。

When I was 20 years old,

当我20岁时，

I was driving through a parking lot, and I saw a puddle.

我开车经过一个停车场，看到一个水坑，

心想，“我从左边绕一下吧。 不——我要直着开过去。”

I thought, "I'm going to veer to the left. No -- I'm going through it."

我开进了水坑，于是——哗！—— 所有的水都飞溅到了我的车底，

And I hit the puddle, and -- ffftt! -- all the water underneath my car,

and instantly, I have an aha moment.

突然，我的顿悟时刻来了，

Light bulb goes off.

脑中灵光一现。

Everything in the world needs to be designed.

世间的一切都需要设计。

I mean, I'm sure I was thinking, "The drainage needs to be designed

当然，我确定当时想的是， “这个停车场的排水系统

需要设计。”

in this parking lot."

但很快我就想到， “世间的一切都需要设计。”

But then I was like, "Everything in the world needs to be designed."

这是真的，因为如果顺其自然，

And it's true: left to its own devices,

大自然不会为你开辟出 一条有趣的，或一定有用的

Mother Nature isn't going to carve an interesting or necessarily helpful path

for you.

人生道路。

I've spent my career reaching into people's minds

我在整个职业生涯中 都在了解人们的想法，

and creating worlds out here that we can all interact with.

去创建我们都能与之互动的世界。

And yeah, you might not get to do this with fancy collaborators,

当然，你的合作伙伴可能没那么出名，

but I think if you leave here, those three easy steps --

但我认为你今天可以学到 这三个简单的步骤——

therapy, who do I want to be, why do I do the things that I do;

问诊，我想要成为什么人， 我为什么要做这样的事；

设计，制定一个计划并坚持到底，

design, create a plan and try and follow through with it,

what can I do;

我能做什么；

execute it --

执行——

I think if you add that with a little color theory --

我觉得如果你能在这其中 增加一点色彩理论——

(Laughter)

（笑声）

some cool design choices and a general disrespect for architectural standards,

做些比较酷的设计选择， 打破一些建筑标准的约束，

you can go out

你就可以放开手脚

and create the world that you want to live in,

去创造你想要生活的世界，

and I am going to go home and buy a new trash can.

而我，打算回家买个新的垃圾桶。

Thank you.

谢谢。

(Applause)

（鼓掌）