The Exciting, Perilous Journey Toward AGI | Ilya Sutskever | TED

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翻译人员: Chunxiang Lu 校对人员: Lening Xu
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You've all experienced the progress of artificial intelligence.
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你们都经历了人工智能的进步。
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Many of you may have spoken with a computer,
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有许多人可能已经与计算机对过话,
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and a computer understood you
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而且它听懂了你说什么
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and spoke back to you.
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并对你做出回应。
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With the rate of progress being that it is,
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照目前的进步速度而言,
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it's not difficult to imagine that at some point in the future,
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不难想象,在未来的某个时点,
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our intelligent computers will become as smart or smarter than people.
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我们的智能计算机会变得和 我们一样或更加聪明。
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And it's also not difficult to imagine that when that happens,
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而且不难想象,当这种情况发生时,
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the impact of such artificial intelligence
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这样的人工智能的影响
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is going to be truly, truly vast.
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将变得非常、非常巨大。
00:45
And you may wonder:
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那么,你也许会想:
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Is it going to be OK when technology is so impactful?
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当技术如此有影响力时,会依旧安全吗?
00:52
And here my goal is to point out the existence of a force
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至此,我想引申出
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that many of you may have not noticed,
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一种你们中的大多数还未曾注意到的力量,
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that gives me hope that indeed,
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这着实给了我希望,
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we will be happy with the result.
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我想我们会对结果满意。
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So artificial intelligence.
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那么人工智能,
01:11
What is it, and how does it work?
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它是什么,它是如何工作的?
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Well, it turns out that it's very easy to explain
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事实上,要想解释AI的工作原理很容易。
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how artificial intelligence works.
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01:19
Just one sentence.
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只需要一句话。
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Artificial intelligence is nothing but digital brains
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人工智能
不过是大型计算机中的数字大脑。
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inside large computers.
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01:30
That's what artificial intelligence is.
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这就是人工智能。
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Every single interesting AI that you've seen
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每一个你所见过的有趣的人工智能
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is based on this idea.
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都是基于这个原理。
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Over the decades,
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几十年来,
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scientists and engineers have been figuring out
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科学家和工程师一直在研究
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how such digital brains should work
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这种数字大脑应该如何运作,
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and how to build them, how to engineer them.
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应该如何建造和设计他们。
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Now, I find it interesting
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现在,我觉得有趣的是
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that the seat of intelligence in human beings is our biological brain.
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人类智慧的所在即是我们的生物大脑。
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It is fitting that the seat of intelligence
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人工智能中智能的所在是人工大脑, 这是恰当的。
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in artificial intelligence
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is an artificial brain.
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02:10
Here, I'd like to take a digression and tell you about how I got into AI.
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此刻,我题外话一下, 告诉你们我是如何步入人工智能的。
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There were three forces that pulled me into it.
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有三股力量把我拉进去。
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The first one was that when I was a little child,
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第一个问题是,当我还是个 大约五六岁的孩子时。
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at around the age of five or six,
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02:29
I was very struck by my own conscious experience,
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我对自己的意识体验,
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by the fact that I am me and I am experiencing things.
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我就是我以及我正在经历一些事情 感到印象深刻。
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That when I look at things, I see them.
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当我看东西时,我就能看见它们。
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Like, this feeling over time went away, though,
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就好像,随着时间的推移, 这种感觉消失了,
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by simply mentioning it to you right now it comes back.
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但现在只要向你提一下,它就会回来。
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But this this feeling of ...
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但是这样的感觉……
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That I am me, that you are you,
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我是我,你是你。
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I found it very strange and very disturbing almost.
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让我觉得很奇怪, 也几乎很令人不安。
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And so when I learned about artificial intelligence,
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因此,当我了解了人工智能。
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I thought, wow, if we could build a computer
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我想,哇,如果我们能建造一台
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that is intelligent,
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智能计算机,
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maybe we will learn something about ourselves,
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也许我们会学到一些关于我们自己、
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about our own consciousness.
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关于我们自己意识的东西。
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That was my first motivation that pulled me towards AI.
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这是推动我走向 AI的第一个动机。
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The second motivation was more pedestrian in a way.
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从某种意义上说, 第二个动机更平淡无奇。
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I was simply curious about how intelligence works.
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我只是好奇智能是如何运作的。     
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And when I was a teenager, an early teenager in the late '90s,
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当我还是个青少年, 一个 90 年代末的少年时,
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the sense that I got is that science simply did not know
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我感觉到科学根本不知道智能
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how intelligence worked.
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是如何运作的。
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There was also a third reason,
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还有第三个原因,
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which is that it was clear to me back then
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那就是当时我很清楚,
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that artificial intelligence,
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如果人工智能奏效,
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if it worked, it would be incredibly impactful.
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它将产生惊人的影响。
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Now, it wasn't at all obvious
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现在,在人工智能领域取得
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that it will be possible to make progress in artificial intelligence,
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进展的可能性一点都不明显,
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but if it were possible to make progress in artificial intelligence,
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但是如果有可能在 人工智能领域取得进展,
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that would be incredibly impactful.
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那将产生难以置信的影响。
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So these were the three reasons that pulled me towards AI.
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因此,这是促使我走向AI的三个原因 。
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That's why I thought that's a great area to spend all my efforts on.
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这就是为什么我认为人工智能是一个 值得我全力以赴的好领域。
04:08
So now let's come back to our artificial intelligence,
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那么,现在我们回到我们的人工智能,
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the digital brains.
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也就是数字大脑。
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Today, these digital brains
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如今,这些数字大脑
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are far less smart than our biological brains.
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远不如我们的生物大脑聪明。
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When you speak to an AI chat bot,
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当你与人工智能聊天机器人交谈时,
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you very quickly see that it's not all there,
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你很快就会发现,它不能都做出回应。
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that it's, you know,
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你懂的,
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it understands mostly, sort of.
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某种程度上,它只是片面地理解了。
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But you can clearly see that there are so many things it cannot do
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但是你可以清楚地意识到, 它做不到的事情太多了,
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and that there are some strange gaps.
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还有一些奇怪的差距。
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But this situation, I claim, is temporary.
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但我相信,这种情况是暂时的。
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As researchers and engineers continue to work on AI,
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随着研究人员和工程师 继续研究人工智能,
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the day will come when the digital brains that live inside our computers
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这一天终将到来, 生活在我们计算机中的数字大脑
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will become as good and even better than our own biological brains.
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将变得和我们自己的生物大脑 一样好,甚至更好。
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Computers will become smarter than us.
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计算机将变得比我们更聪明。
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We call such an AI an “AGI,” artificial general intelligence.
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我们将这样的人工智能称为 “AGI”, 即通用人工智能。
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When we can say that the level at which we can teach the AI to do anything
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当我们可以这样说时, 我们可以教人工智能做任何事情,
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that, for example, I can do, or someone else.
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例如,我或者他人能做的事情。
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So although AGI does not exist today,
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因此,尽管今天AGI还不存在,
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we can still gain a little bit of an insight
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但我们仍能察觉一旦AGI建成,
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into the impact of AGI once it's built.
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其带来的影响。
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It is completely obvious
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显而易见,
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that such an AGI will have a dramatic impact
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这样的AGI 将对 生活、人类活动和社会的各个领域
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on every area of life, of human activity and society.
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产生巨大影响。
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And I want to go over a quick case study.
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我想简要介绍一个案例研究。
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This is a narrow example of a very, very broad technology.
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这是一项非常非常广泛技术的一个狭义例子。
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The example I want to present is health care.
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我想举的例子是医疗保健。
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Many of you may have had the experience of trying to go to a doctor.
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你们中的许多人可能有过 尝试去看医生的经历。
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You need to wait for many months sometimes,
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有时候你需要等好几个月,
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and then when you do get to see a doctor, you get a small,
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然后当你去看医生时,你只有一小段,
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very limited amount of time with the doctor
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非常有限的时间与医生共处。
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and furthermore, the doctor, being only human,
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而且,医生也是人,
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can have only limited knowledge of all this,
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对所有这些、
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all the medical knowledge that exists.
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所有现存的医学知识的了解有限。
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And then by the end of it, you get a very large bill.
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最后,你会得到一份相当高昂的账单。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Well, if you have an intelligent computer, an AGI, that is built to be a doctor,
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好吧,如果你有一台智能计算机, 一台打造为医生的AGI,
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it will have complete and exhaustive knowledge of all medical literature.
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它将对所有医学文献有 完整而详尽的了解。
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It will have billions of hours of clinical experience,
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它将拥有数十亿小时的临床经验,
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and it will be always available and extremely cheap.
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随时可用还非常便宜。
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When this happens,
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当实现这一想法,
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we will look back at today's health care
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我们将像看待 16 世纪的牙科一样
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similarly to how we look at 16th century dentistry.
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回顾当今的医疗保健。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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You know, when they tied people with belts and then have this drill,
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你知道,当他们用皮带绑住人们 然后进行这种演习时,
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that's how today's health care will look like.
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今天的医疗保健就会变成这样。
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And again, to emphasize, this is just one example.
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再强调一遍, 这只是一个例子。
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This is just one example.
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这只是一个例子。
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AGI will have dramatic and incredible impact
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AGI 将对人类活动的每个领域
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on every single area of human activity.
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产生巨大而令人难以置信的影响。
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But when you see impact this large, you may wonder, "Gosh,
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但是,当你看到如此之大的冲击力时, 你可能会想:“天哪,
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isn't this technology too impactful?"
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这项技术是不是太过强大了?”
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And indeed, for every positive application of AGI,
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事实上,对于AGI的每一积极应用,
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there will be a negative application as well.
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也会存在负面的应用。
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This technology is also going to be different
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这项技术也将与我们习惯的技术不同,
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from technologies that we are used to,
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because it will have the ability to improve itself.
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因为它将具有自我改进的能力。
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It is possible to build an AGI
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建立一个适用于 下一 代AGI的AGI 是有可能的。
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that will work on the next generation of AGI.
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The closest analogue we have to this kind of rapid technological improvement
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我们与这种快速的技术进步 最接近的类似之处
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is when the Industrial Revolution has taken place, where humans,
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是工业革命发生的时候,
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the material condition of human society, was very, very constant.
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人类以及人类社会的物质条件, 是非常非常恒定的。
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And then it was a rapid increase, rapid growth.
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随后是快速增长,快速发展。
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With AGI,
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有了AGI,
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something like this could happen again, but on a shorter timescale.
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类似这样的事情可能会再次发生, 但时间更短。
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And then furthermore,
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此外,
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there are concerns around
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有人担心 AGI 是否会变得非常非常强大,
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if an AGI ever becomes very, very powerful,
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which is possible,
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这是可能的,
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maybe it will want to go rogue being that it is an agent.
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既然它是一个特工, 也许它想成为捣蛋鬼呢。
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So this is a concern that exists with this unprecedented,
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因此,这是这项前所未有的、
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not yet existing technology.
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尚未存在的技术中存在的问题。
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And indeed,
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事实上,
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you look at all the positive potential of AGI
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你看看AGI所有积极的潜力
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and all the concerning possibilities of AGI as well,
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以及AGI所有令人不安的可能性,
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and you may say, "Gosh, where is this all headed?"
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你可能会说:“天哪, 这一切都将走向何方?”
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One of my motivations in creating OpenAI was,
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我创建 OpenAI的动机之一是,
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in addition to developing this technology,
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除了开发这项技术外,
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was also to address the questions
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还要解决 AGI 带来的问题,
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that are posed by AGI, the difficult questions,
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由我们带来的棘手的问题和担忧。
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the concerns that we raised.
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08:54
In addition to working with governments
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除了与政府合作
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and helping them understand what is coming and prepare for it,
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并帮助他们了解即将 发生的事情并为之做好准备外,
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we are also doing a lot of research
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我们也在做很多关于解决 事物技术方面的研究,
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on addressing the technological side of things,
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so that the AI will never want to go rogue.
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这样人工智能就永远不会变成恶棍。
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And this is something which I’m working on as well.
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这也是 我正在研究的问题。
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But I think, the thing to note,
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但我认为,需要注意的是,
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because AI and AGI is really the only area of the economy
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因为人工智能和通用人工智能确实
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where there is a lot of excitement, a lot of investment,
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是经济中唯一一个 充满激情、大量投资的领域,
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everyone is working on it,
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人人都在为之奋斗。
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there's a huge number of labs in the world trying to build the same thing.
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世界上有大量的实验室在 尝试打造同样的东西。
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Even if OpenAI takes these desirable steps that I mentioned,
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即使 OpenAI 采取了 我提到的这些理想步骤,
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what about the rest of the companies and the rest of the world?
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其他公司和世界其他地区呢?
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And this is where I want to make my observation
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这就是我想观察
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about the force that exists.
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存在力量的地方。
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The observation is this: consider the world one year ago,
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观察结果是这样的: 以一年前的世界为例,
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as recently as one year ago.
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也就是最近的一年前。
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People weren't really talking about AI, not in the same way at all.
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人们并没有真正谈论人工智能, 根本不是以同样的方式。
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What happened?
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发生了什么?
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We all experienced what it's like to talk to a computer and to be understood.
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我们都经历过与计算机 交谈和被理解的感觉。
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The idea that computers will become really intelligent
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计算机将变得真正智能
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and eventually more intelligent than us is becoming widespread.
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并最终比我们更智能的想法 正在变得越来越普遍。
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It used to be a niche idea that only a few enthusiasts
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它曾经是一个小众的想法, 只有少数狂热爱好者和业余爱好者
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and hobbyists and people who were very into AI were thinking about.
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以及非常喜欢人工智能的人有这种想法。
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But now everyone is thinking about it.
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但是现在每个人都这么想。
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And as the AI continues to make progress,
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随着人工智能不断进步,
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as technology continues to advance,
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随着技术不断进步,
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as more and more people see what AI can do
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随着越来越多的人看到人工智能能做什么
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and where it is headed towards,
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什么以及它前进的方向,
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then it will become clear just how dramatic,
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那么人们就会清楚地看到人工智能 是多么引人注目、
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incredible and ...
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多么令人难以置信以及……
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almost fantastical AGI is going to be
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AGI 会变得几乎是异想天开的,
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and how much trepidation is appropriate.
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多少不安才是合适的。
10:43
And what I claim will happen is that people will start to act
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我声称会发生的情况是, 出于自身利益,
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in unprecedentedly collaborative way out of their own self-interest.
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人们将开始以前所未有的合作方式行事。
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It's already happening right now.
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这种情况现在已经发生了。
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You see the leading AGI companies starting to collaborate
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举一个具体的例子, 你可以看到领先的AGI公司
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for a specific example, through the Frontier Model Forum.
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开始通过前沿模型论坛合作。
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And we will expect that companies that are competitors
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而且我们预计, 互相竞争的公司
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will share technical information to make their AIs safe.
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将共享技术信息 来确保其人工智能的安全。
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We may even see governments do this.
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我们甚至可能会看到政府这样做。
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For another example,
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再举一个例子,
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at OpenAI, we really believed in how dramatic AGI is going to be.
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在OpenAI,我们真正相信 AGI会变得非常不同凡响。
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So one of the ideas that we were operating by,
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因此,我们赖以运营的想法之一,
11:22
and it's been written on our website for five years now,
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已经写在我们的网站上长达五年之久。
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that when technology gets such that we are very, very close to AGI,
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当科技发展到我们非常非常接近 通用人工智能、
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to computers smarter than humans,
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比人类更智能的计算机时,
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and if some other company is far ahead of us,
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如果其他公司远远领先于我们,
11:35
then rather than compete with them,
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那么从某种意义上说, 我们不会与他们竞争,
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we will help them out, join them, in a sense.
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而是帮助他们,加入他们的行列。
11:41
And why do that?
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为什么要这样做?
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Because we feel, we appreciate
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因为我们认为,
11:44
how incredibly dramatic AGI is going to be.
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我们懂得AGI将变得 分外不同凡响。
11:47
And my claim is that with each generation of capability advancements,
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我的主张是, 随着每一代人能力提高
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as AI gets better
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随着人工智能变得更好。
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and as all of you experience what AI can do,
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随着你们所有人体验到 人工智能可以做什么,
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as people who run AI efforts and AGI efforts
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负责人工智能工作和 通用人工智能工作的人
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and people who work on them will experience it as well,
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以及从事这些工作的人也会体验到,
12:05
this will change the way we see AI and AGI,
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这将改变我们看待 人工智能和通用人工智能的方式,
12:09
and that will change collective behavior.
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这将改变集体行为。
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And this is an important reason
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这就是为什么
12:15
why I'm hopeful
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尽管这项技术带来了巨大的挑战,
12:17
that despite the great challenges that's posed by this technology,
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但我仍对我们能克服这些挑战
12:20
we will overcome them.
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充满希望的重要原因。
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
12:23
(Applause)
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