The Exciting, Perilous Journey Toward AGI | Ilya Sutskever | TED

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You've all experienced the progress of artificial intelligence.
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Many of you may have spoken with a computer,
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and a computer understood you
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and spoke back to you.
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With the rate of progress being that it is,
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it's not difficult to imagine that at some point in the future,
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our intelligent computers will become as smart or smarter than people.
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And it's also not difficult to imagine that when that happens,
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the impact of such artificial intelligence
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is going to be truly, truly vast.
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And you may wonder:
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Is it going to be OK when technology is so impactful?
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And here my goal is to point out the existence of a force
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that many of you may have not noticed,
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that gives me hope that indeed,
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we will be happy with the result.
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So artificial intelligence.
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What is it, and how does it work?
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Well, it turns out that it's very easy to explain
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how artificial intelligence works.
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Just one sentence.
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Artificial intelligence is nothing but digital brains
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inside large computers.
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That's what artificial intelligence is.
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Every single interesting AI that you've seen
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is based on this idea.
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Over the decades,
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scientists and engineers have been figuring out
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how such digital brains should work
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and how to build them, how to engineer them.
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Now, I find it interesting
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that the seat of intelligence in human beings is our biological brain.
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It is fitting that the seat of intelligence
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in artificial intelligence
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is an artificial brain.
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Here, I'd like to take a digression and tell you about how I got into AI.
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There were three forces that pulled me into it.
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The first one was that when I was a little child,
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at around the age of five or six,
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I was very struck by my own conscious experience,
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by the fact that I am me and I am experiencing things.
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That when I look at things, I see them.
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Like, this feeling over time went away, though,
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by simply mentioning it to you right now it comes back.
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But this this feeling of ...
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That I am me, that you are you,
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I found it very strange and very disturbing almost.
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And so when I learned about artificial intelligence,
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I thought, wow, if we could build a computer
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that is intelligent,
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maybe we will learn something about ourselves,
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about our own consciousness.
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That was my first motivation that pulled me towards AI.
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The second motivation was more pedestrian in a way.
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I was simply curious about how intelligence works.
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And when I was a teenager, an early teenager in the late '90s,
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the sense that I got is that science simply did not know
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how intelligence worked.
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There was also a third reason,
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which is that it was clear to me back then
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that artificial intelligence,
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if it worked, it would be incredibly impactful.
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Now, it wasn't at all obvious
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that it will be possible to make progress in artificial intelligence,
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but if it were possible to make progress in artificial intelligence,
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that would be incredibly impactful.
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So these were the three reasons that pulled me towards AI.
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That's why I thought that's a great area to spend all my efforts on.
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So now let's come back to our artificial intelligence,
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the digital brains.
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Today, these digital brains
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are far less smart than our biological brains.
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When you speak to an AI chat bot,
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you very quickly see that it's not all there,
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that it's, you know,
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it understands mostly, sort of.
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But you can clearly see that there are so many things it cannot do
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and that there are some strange gaps.
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But this situation, I claim, is temporary.
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As researchers and engineers continue to work on AI,
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the day will come when the digital brains that live inside our computers
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will become as good and even better than our own biological brains.
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Computers will become smarter than us.
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We call such an AI an “AGI,” artificial general intelligence.
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When we can say that the level at which we can teach the AI to do anything
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that, for example, I can do, or someone else.
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So although AGI does not exist today,
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we can still gain a little bit of an insight
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into the impact of AGI once it's built.
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It is completely obvious
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that such an AGI will have a dramatic impact
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on every area of life, of human activity and society.
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And I want to go over a quick case study.
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This is a narrow example of a very, very broad technology.
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The example I want to present is health care.
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Many of you may have had the experience of trying to go to a doctor.
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You need to wait for many months sometimes,
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and then when you do get to see a doctor, you get a small,
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very limited amount of time with the doctor
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and furthermore, the doctor, being only human,
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can have only limited knowledge of all this,
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all the medical knowledge that exists.
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And then by the end of it, you get a very large bill.
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(Laughter)
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Well, if you have an intelligent computer, an AGI, that is built to be a doctor,
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it will have complete and exhaustive knowledge of all medical literature.
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It will have billions of hours of clinical experience,
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and it will be always available and extremely cheap.
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When this happens,
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we will look back at today's health care
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similarly to how we look at 16th century dentistry.
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(Laughter)
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You know, when they tied people with belts and then have this drill,
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that's how today's health care will look like.
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And again, to emphasize, this is just one example.
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This is just one example.
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AGI will have dramatic and incredible impact
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on every single area of human activity.
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But when you see impact this large, you may wonder, "Gosh,
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isn't this technology too impactful?"
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And indeed, for every positive application of AGI,
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there will be a negative application as well.
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This technology is also going to be different
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from technologies that we are used to,
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because it will have the ability to improve itself.
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It is possible to build an AGI
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that will work on the next generation of AGI.
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The closest analogue we have to this kind of rapid technological improvement
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is when the Industrial Revolution has taken place, where humans,
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the material condition of human society, was very, very constant.
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And then it was a rapid increase, rapid growth.
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With AGI,
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something like this could happen again, but on a shorter timescale.
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And then furthermore,
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there are concerns around
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if an AGI ever becomes very, very powerful,
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which is possible,
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maybe it will want to go rogue being that it is an agent.
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So this is a concern that exists with this unprecedented,
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not yet existing technology.
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And indeed,
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you look at all the positive potential of AGI
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and all the concerning possibilities of AGI as well,
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and you may say, "Gosh, where is this all headed?"
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One of my motivations in creating OpenAI was,
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in addition to developing this technology,
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was also to address the questions
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that are posed by AGI, the difficult questions,
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the concerns that we raised.
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In addition to working with governments
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and helping them understand what is coming and prepare for it,
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we are also doing a lot of research
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on addressing the technological side of things,
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so that the AI will never want to go rogue.
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And this is something which I’m working on as well.
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But I think, the thing to note,
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because AI and AGI is really the only area of the economy
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where there is a lot of excitement, a lot of investment,
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everyone is working on it,
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there's a huge number of labs in the world trying to build the same thing.
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Even if OpenAI takes these desirable steps that I mentioned,
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what about the rest of the companies and the rest of the world?
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And this is where I want to make my observation
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about the force that exists.
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The observation is this: consider the world one year ago,
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as recently as one year ago.
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People weren't really talking about AI, not in the same way at all.
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What happened?
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We all experienced what it's like to talk to a computer and to be understood.
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The idea that computers will become really intelligent
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and eventually more intelligent than us is becoming widespread.
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It used to be a niche idea that only a few enthusiasts
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and hobbyists and people who were very into AI were thinking about.
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But now everyone is thinking about it.
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And as the AI continues to make progress,
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as technology continues to advance,
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as more and more people see what AI can do
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and where it is headed towards,
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then it will become clear just how dramatic,
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incredible and ...
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almost fantastical AGI is going to be
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and how much trepidation is appropriate.
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And what I claim will happen is that people will start to act
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in unprecedentedly collaborative way out of their own self-interest.
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It's already happening right now.
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You see the leading AGI companies starting to collaborate
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for a specific example, through the Frontier Model Forum.
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And we will expect that companies that are competitors
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will share technical information to make their AIs safe.
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We may even see governments do this.
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For another example,
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at OpenAI, we really believed in how dramatic AGI is going to be.
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So one of the ideas that we were operating by,
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and it's been written on our website for five years now,
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that when technology gets such that we are very, very close to AGI,
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to computers smarter than humans,
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and if some other company is far ahead of us,
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then rather than compete with them,
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we will help them out, join them, in a sense.
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And why do that?
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Because we feel, we appreciate
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how incredibly dramatic AGI is going to be.
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And my claim is that with each generation of capability advancements,
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as AI gets better
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and as all of you experience what AI can do,
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as people who run AI efforts and AGI efforts
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and people who work on them will experience it as well,
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this will change the way we see AI and AGI,
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and that will change collective behavior.
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And this is an important reason
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why I'm hopeful
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that despite the great challenges that's posed by this technology,
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we will overcome them.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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