How to Squeeze All the Juice Out of Retirement | Riley Moynes | TED

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翻译人员: coco za 校对人员: Yan Li Xiao
00:04
Everyone says you have to get ready to retire financially.
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人人都说你必须 为退休做好财务上的准备。
00:08
And of course you do.
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当然你也会这样做。
00:10
But what they don't tell you
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但他们不会告诉你
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is that you also have to get ready psychologically.
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你心理上也得做好准备。
00:16
Who knew?
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而这谁又知道呢?
00:18
But it's important for a couple of reasons.
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做好心理准备很重要。 原因如下:
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First, 10,000 North Americans will retire today
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首先,今天北美 有 1 万名老人退休,
00:27
and every day for the next 10 to 15 years.
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未来 10 到 15 年,天天如此。
00:31
This is a retirement tsunami.
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这将是一场“退休海啸”。
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And when these folks come crashing onto the beach,
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而当这些人 “拍在沙滩上”的时候,
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a lot of them are going to feel like fish out of water,
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他们中的很多人将会感觉 像离开了水的鱼。
00:42
without a clue as to what to expect.
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毫无头绪,不知道该期待什么。
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Secondly, it's important because there is a very good chance
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第二,这很重要 因为非常有可能
00:51
that you will live one third of your life in retirement.
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你生命中的三分之一 将在退休后度过。
00:58
So it's important that you have a heads up
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因此,重要的是, 你要有一个清醒的认识
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to the fact that there will be significant psychological changes
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你将会经历 显著的心理变化
01:04
and challenges that come with it.
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以及随之而来的挑战。
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I belong to a walking group that meets early three mornings a week.
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我参加了一个步行小组 每周有三个早晨聚会。
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Our primary goal is to put 10,000 steps on our Fitbits,
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我们的主要目标 是在我们的 Fitbits 上记录 10000 步。
01:19
and then we go for coffee and cinnamon buns more importantly.
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然后,更重要的是,我们去喝咖啡 和吃肉桂面包。
01:24
(Laughter and applause)
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(笑声和掌声)
01:30
So we've gotten the habit of, as we walk,
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所以我们已经养成了这样的习惯, 在我们走路的时候,
01:32
we've gotten the habit of choosing a topic for discussion.
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我们选择一个讨论的话题。
01:36
And one day the topic was,
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而有一天,这个话题是
01:39
how do you squeeze all the juice out of retirement?
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怎样活出最精彩的退休生活?
01:44
How's that for seven o'clock in the morning?
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早上七点的时候,怎么样?
01:47
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:48
So we walk and we talk, and the next day we go on to the next topic.
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所以我们边走边谈,第二天 我们继续下一个话题。
01:52
But the question stayed with me
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但这个问题一直困扰着我
01:54
because I was really having some challenges with retirement.
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因为我当时真的面临着 一些退休带来的挑战。
01:58
I was busy enough,
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我过去已经够忙了。
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but I really didn't feel that I was doing very much
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但我真的不觉得 我做了很多
02:02
that was significant or important.
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有意义的或重要的事情。
02:06
I was really struggling.
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我当时真的很纠结。
02:08
I thought I had a pretty good idea of what success looked like
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在工作生涯中, 关于成功是什么样子的
02:11
in a working career,
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我以为我相当清楚。
02:13
but when it came to retirement, it was fuzzier for me.
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但当退休来临时, 想法又变得模糊起来。
02:18
So I decided to dig deeper.
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所以我决定更深入地挖掘。
02:20
And what I discovered was that much of the material on retirement
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我发现的是,许多 退休方面的材料
02:24
focuses on the financial and/or the estate side of things.
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着重于金融 以及/或者财产方面的事情。
02:29
And of course, they're both important,
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当然,它们都很重要。
02:31
but just not what I was looking for.
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但不是我所寻找的。
02:34
So I interviewed dozens and dozens of retirees
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所以我采访了几十位 退休人员,
02:38
and I asked them the question:
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我问他们如下问题:
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how do you squeeze all the juice out of retirement?
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怎样活出最精彩的退休生活?
02:46
What I discovered was that there is a framework
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我发现的是 有一个框架
02:50
that can help make sense of it all.
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可以帮助理解这一切。
02:53
And that's what I want to share with you today.
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而这正是我今天想 要与你们分享的。
02:56
You see, there are four distinct phases
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你看,有四个不同
03:00
that most of us move through in retirement.
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我们中的大多数人 在退休后都会经历的阶段。
03:05
And as you'll see, it's not always a smooth ride.
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正如你将看到的那样。 它并不总是一帆风顺的。
03:10
In the next few minutes,
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在接下来的几分钟里。
03:11
you’ll recognize which phase you’re in, if you’re retired.
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如果你已经退休了的话, 你会认识到你处于哪个阶段。
03:16
And if you’re not,
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而如果你还没有退休,
03:17
you'll have a better idea of what to expect when that time comes.
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等你退休后你会更加了解该怎么做。
03:22
And best of all, you'll know that there is a phase four.
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而且最重要的是,你会知道 有第四阶段。
03:26
The most gratifying, satisfying of the four phases,
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四个阶段里最令人高兴的, 令人满意的那个阶段,
03:32
and that's where you can squeeze all the juice out of retirement.
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而那正是你可以 活得最精彩的那个阶段。
03:38
Phase one is the vacation phase, and that's just what it's like.
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第一阶段是度假阶段, 就像度假一样。
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You wake up when you want, you do what you want all day.
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你想起床的时候就起床, 你整天做你想做的事。
03:48
And the best part is that there is no set routine.
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最好的部分是 没有固定的程序。
03:53
For most people, phase one represents their view of an ideal retirement.
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对于大多数人来说,第一阶段代表了 他们对理想的退休生活的看法。
04:00
Relaxing, fun in the sun, freedom, baby.
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放松,在阳光下玩耍,自由,宝贝。
04:04
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:06
And for most folks, phase one lasts for about a year or so.
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而对于大多数人来说,第一阶段会持续 大约一年左右的时间。
04:10
And then strangely, it begins to lose its luster.
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然后很奇怪, 它开始失去它的魅力。
04:15
We begin to feel a bit bored.
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我们开始觉得有点无聊。
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We actually miss our routine.
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我们实际上是在怀念 我们有规律的日常生活。
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Something in us seems to need one.
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我们身上的某些东西似乎需要它们。
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And we ask ourselves,
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而我们问自己
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"Is that all there is to retirement?"
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这就是退休生活的全部内容吗?
04:31
Now when these thoughts and feelings start to bubble up,
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当这些想法和感觉 开始涌现出来。
04:35
you have already moved into phase two.
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你已经进入了第二阶段。
04:40
Phase two is when we feel loss and we feel lost.
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第二阶段是当我们感到 损失,我们感到失落。
04:48
Phase two is when we lose the big five,
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第二阶段我们 会感到失去了“五大损失”、
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significant losses all associated with retirement.
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所有与退休有关的重大损失。
04:58
We lose that routine.
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我们失去了那种常规。
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We lose a sense of identity.
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我们失去了认同感。
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We lose many of the relationships that we had established at work.
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我们失去了许多 在工作中建立的关系。
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We lose a sense of purpose,
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我们失去了目标感。
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and for some people, there's a loss of power.
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而对一些人来说,失去权力。
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Now we don't see these things coming.
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现在我们看不到这些东西了。
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We didn’t see these losses coming, and because they happen all at once,
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我们没有预见到这些损失。 而且因为它们一下子就发生了。
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it’s like, poof, gone.
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就像,噗的一声,消失了。
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It's traumatic.
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这是个创伤性的问题。
05:27
Phase two is also when we come face-to-face with the three Ds:
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第二阶段也是当我们 和“3个D”面对面的时候:
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divorce,
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离婚,
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depression
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抑郁,
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and decline, both physical and mental.
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和衰老, 包括身体和精神方面的。
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The result of all of this
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这一切的结果
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is that we can feel like we've been hit by a bus.
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导致我们感觉 像被一辆公共汽车撞了。
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You see, before we can appreciate and enjoy some of the positive aspects
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你看,在我们能够欣赏 和享受与第 3 阶段和第 4 阶段有关的
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associated with phase three and four,
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一些积极的方面之前,
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you are going to, in phase two, feel fear,
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在第二阶段,你将会感到恐惧。
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anxiety and quite even depression.
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焦虑,甚至是抑郁。
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That's just the way it is.
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这就是事情的真相。
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So buckle up, get ready.
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所以系好安全带,做好准备。
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Fortunately, at some point, most of us say to ourselves,
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幸运的是,在某些时候 我们大多数人都对自己说。
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"Hey, I can't go on like this.
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“嘿,我不能再这样下去了。
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I don't want to spend the rest of my life,
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我不想像这样度过我的余生,
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perhaps 30 years, feeling like this."
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也许 30 年。”
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And when we do, we've turned a corner to phase three.
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而当我们这样做的时候,我们已经转过 一个转角,进入第三阶段。
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Phase three is a time of trial and error.
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第三阶段是一个试错的时期。
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In phase three, we ask ourselves,
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在第三阶段,我们问自己。
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“How can I make my life meaningful again?
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“我怎样才能让我的生活 重新变得有意义呢?
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How can I contribute?”
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我怎样才能做出贡献?”
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The answer often is to do things that you love to do and do really well.
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答案往往是做一些 你喜欢做的事情,而且做得非常好。
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But phase three can also deliver some disappointment and failure.
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但第三阶段也会带来 一些失望和失败。
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For example,
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比如,
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I spent a couple of years serving on a condo board
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我花了几年的时间 在一个公寓委员会任职
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until I finally got tired of being yelled at.
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直到我终于厌倦了被骂。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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You see, one year the board decided that we were going to plant daffodils
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你看,有一年,董事会决定 我们要种植水仙花
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rather than the traditional daisies,
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而不是传统的雏菊。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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and we got yelled at.
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而我们被骂了。
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Go figure.
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去找一找。
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I thought about law school,
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我想到了去学法律,
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thinking perhaps of becoming a paralegal.
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我想也许可以成为一名律师助理。
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And then I completed a program on dispute resolution.
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然后我完成了一个 关于解决争端的项目,
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It all went nowhere.
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不过这一切都无疾而终。
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I love to write.
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我喜欢写作。
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So I created a program called Getting Started on Your Memoirs.
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所以我创建了一个项目 叫做 “开始写你的回忆录“。
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That program has met with "limited success."
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该计划已经 有着 “有限的成功“。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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It's been a rocky road for me, too.
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对我来说,这也是一条坎坷的道路。
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And I told you to buckle up.
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我还告诉你要系好安全带。
08:00
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:01
Now, I know all this can sound bad.
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现在,我知道这一切 可能听起来很糟糕。
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But it's really important to keep trying and experimenting
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但这真的很重要 继续尝试和实验,
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with different activities that'll make you want to get up in the morning again,
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实验不同的活动,这将使你 想在早上再次起床。
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because if you don't,
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因为如果你不这样做。
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there's a real good chance of slipping back into phase two,
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很可能你会 溜回第二阶段,
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feeling like you've been hit by a bus,
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感觉就像你被一辆巴士撞了。
08:20
and that is not a happy prospect.
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而这并不是一个令人快乐的前景。
08:25
Not everyone breaks through to phase four.
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不是每个人都能突破到第四阶段。
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But those who do are some of the happiest people
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但那些做到的人是一些
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I have ever met.
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我所见过的最幸福的人。
08:34
Phase four is a time to reinvent and rewire.
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第四阶段是 彻底改变和重新连接的一个阶段,
08:40
But phase four involves answering some tough questions, too.
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但第四阶段也涉及回答 一些棘手的问题。
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Like what's the purpose here?
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比如存在的目的是什么?
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What's my mission?
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我的使命是什么?
08:49
How can I squeeze all the juice out of retirement?
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我怎样才能活出 最精彩的退休生活?
08:54
You see, it's important that we find activities
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你看,重要的是 我们要找到
08:57
that are meaningful to us
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对我们来说
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and that give us a sense of accomplishment.
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有意义的活动。
09:02
And my experience is that it almost always involves service to others.
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而我的经验是,它几乎 总是涉及到服务他人。
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Maybe it's helping a charity that you care about.
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也许是帮助一个你关心的慈善机构。
09:13
Maybe you'll be like the old coots.
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也许你会像那些老顽童一样。
09:17
Yeah, these folks took a booth in the local farmers market
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是的,这些人在当地的 农贸市场摆了一个摊位,
09:21
and were prepared to give their advice
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然后基于他们多年的经验
09:24
based on their vast years of experience
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准备对任何一个路过的人
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to anyone who came by.
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给出他们的建议。
09:30
Or maybe you'll be like my friend Bill.
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或者,你会像我的朋友比尔一样。
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I met Bill a few years ago in a 55-plus activity group.
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几年前我在一个 55 岁以上的 活动小组里遇到比尔。
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In the summer, we golf together
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在夏天,我们一起打高尔夫球
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and walk together and bicycle together,
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并一起散步,一起骑自行车。
09:45
and in the winter we curl.
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在冬天,我们猫在一起。
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But Bill had this idea that we should exercise our brains as well.
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但比尔认为我们应该 锻炼我们的大脑。
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He believed that there was a tremendous pool
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他认为
09:55
of expertise and experience in our group.
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我们小组的人有 丰富专业知识和经验。
09:58
And so he approached a number of folks
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因此,他联系了一些人
10:01
and asked if they would volunteer to teach some of the things
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并询问他们是否愿意自愿 教给别人一些
10:04
that they love to do to others.
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他们喜欢做的事情,
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And almost invariably they agreed.
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而他们几乎无一例外地同意了。
10:11
Bill himself taught two sessions,
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比尔自己教了两节课。
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one on iPads and one on iPhones.
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一节关于 iPad , 一节关于iPhone。
10:18
Because we were smart enough to know
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因为我们足够聪明地知道
10:20
that a number of our members had been given these things
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我们的一些成员 已经得到了这些电子设备
10:24
as gifts at Christmas by their children
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作为他们的孩子 在圣诞节给他们的礼物,
10:29
and that they barely knew how to turn them on.
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而且他们几乎不知道 如何打开它们。
10:31
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:34
The first year we offered nine programs
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第一年我们提供了九个项目,
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and there were 200 folks signed up.
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并有 200 人报名参加。
10:40
The next year, that number expanded to 45 programs
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第二年,这个数字 扩大到 45 个项目,
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with over 700 folks participating.
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有超过 700 人参加。
10:49
And the following year we offered over 90 programs
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而在接下来的一年里 我们提供了超过 90 个项目
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and had 2,100 registrations.
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并有 2100 名注册者。
10:57
Amazing.
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真了不起。
10:58
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
11:03
That was Bill.
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那是比尔。
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Our members taught us to play bridge and mahjong.
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我们的成员教我们打 桥牌和麻将。
11:10
They taught us to paint.
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他们教我们画画。
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They taught us to repair our bicycles.
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他们教我们修理自行车。
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We tutored and mentored local school kids.
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我们辅导和指导当地学校的孩子。
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We set up English as a second language programs for newcomers.
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我们为新来者设立了英语 作为第二语言的项目。
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We had book clubs, we had film clubs,
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我们有读书俱乐部, 我们有电影俱乐部。
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we even had a few golf clubs.
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我们甚至有一些高尔夫俱乐部。
11:29
Exhausting, but exhilarating.
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令人疲惫,但也令人振奋。
11:33
That's what's possible in phase four.
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这就是第四阶段的可能。
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And do you remember the five losses
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而你还记得那五大损失吗?
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that we talked about in phase two?
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我们在第二阶段谈到的?
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Loss of our routine and identity and relationships
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失去了我们的常规、身份、 关系、
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and purpose and power.
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目的和权力。
11:49
In phase four, these are all recovered.
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在第四阶段,这些都被恢复了。
11:52
It is magic to see.
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真是神奇。
11:55
Magic.
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像魔法一样。
11:56
So I urge you to enjoy your vacation in phase one.
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所以我劝你享受 你在第一阶段的假期。
12:03
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
12:05
Be prepared for the losses in phase two.
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对第二阶段的损失做好心理准备。
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Experiment and try as many different things as you can
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在第三阶段
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in phase three.
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实验和尝试尽可能多的 不同的事物,
12:16
And squeeze all the juice out of retirement
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并在第四阶段活出最精彩的
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in phase four.
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退休生活。
12:21
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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