Anu Puusa: The case for co-ops, the invisible giant of the economy | TED
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翻译人员: Gia Hwang
校对人员: Carol Wang
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I'm so happy and proud to be here.
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能来这里令我既高兴又自豪!
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When I told my husband
about this wonderful opportunity,
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当我告诉我丈夫这个绝好机会时,
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he said, "TED Talk? Wow,
I get to do that a lot around here.
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他说,“TED 演讲? 哇,
我在这里经常讲呀。
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It's finally someone else's turn."
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终于轮到他人讲了。”
00:26
So, yes, I happen to be married
to a wonderful man named Ted,
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是的,我碰巧嫁给了
一个叫 Ted 的好男人,
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which is pretty rare
in Finland, where I'm from.
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这个名字在我们芬兰非常罕见。
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It's not a typical Finnish name
at all, trust me.
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真的,这不是典型的芬兰名字。
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Myself, I'm a business professor,
and I love teaching.
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我本人是商业教授,喜欢教书。
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But you know what?
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但你知道吗?
00:43
My students are fed up,
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我的学生们受够了,
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they're really fed up with the way
business is screwing up the environment
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他们真的受够了
商业破坏环境的方式,
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and making wealth inequality worse,
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受够了商业加剧的财富不均、
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and putting money and profits
above all else.
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以及把金钱和利润放在首位。
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And what really makes them mad
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而真正让他们发狂的,
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is when I tell them
about the cooperative movement.
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是当我告诉他们合作运动的时候。
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They're angry,
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他们很生气,
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because once they understand
how cooperatives work,
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因为了解合作社的运作方式后,
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they feel like a secret solution
has been kept hidden.
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觉得它像一个一直
被隐藏秘密解决方案。
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Before I tell you more
about why cooperatives are so great,
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在告诉你更多有关合作社
为何如此伟大之前,
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I want to explain what they are.
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我先解释一下它们是什么。
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A cooperative is an organization
that is owned by its members,
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合作社是由其成员共同拥有的组织,
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who are also its customer
and decision maker.
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他们既是客户也是决策者。
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And unlike most businesses,
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与多数企业里某些所有者
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where certain owners
can buy more power and influence,
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可以购买更多权力和影响力不同,
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in a cooperative,
every member has one vote,
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在合作社中,每个成员只有一票,
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which was a revolutionary idea
back when the model was first introduced.
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当该模式首次推出时,
这是一个革命性想法。
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A regular man, not to mention a woman,
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一个普通男人,更别提女人了,
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with no significant means
or a prestigious position in a society,
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在社会中没有显赫手段
或显赫的地位,
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as an owner, an equal partner in business?
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能成为一个所有者、
一个平等的商业伙伴吗?
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Unheard of.
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闻所未闻!
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Perhaps it's still a bit revolutionary.
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也许它仍然有点革命性。
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Cooperatives exist in a sweet spot
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合作社处于
盈利和非盈性世界间的最佳位置。
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between the for-profit
and nonprofit worlds.
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Their uniqueness
is based on the idea of duality.
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其独特性基于二元性的思想,
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They have two distinct
but complementary roles.
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它们有两个不同但互补的角色。
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On one hand,
they act like any other business
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一方面,他们的行为
与任何其他业务一样,
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and try to make money.
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即努力赚钱;
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But on the other hand,
cooperatives are and do so much more.
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但另一方面,合作社
涵盖更广并且做得更多。
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They are people-centered enterprises
run by and for their members,
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它们是以人为本的企业,
由会员经营、为会员服务,
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and they try to achieve economical,
but also social and cultural goals
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不但努力实现经济目标,
还有社会和文化目标,
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to benefit those members
who are just regular people,
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使只是普通人的成员受益,
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like you and me.
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就像你我一样的普通人。
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And what has happened for almost 200 years
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近 200 年来发生的一切已证明,
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is that cooperatives have proven
to make decisions
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合作社从几代人的角度
出发来做出决定,
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with a view across generations,
instead of quarter-to-quarter,
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而不是按季度做决定,
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to benefit more people
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来造福更多人、
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and to anchor wealth in communities
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将财富锚定在社区中,
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that might not otherwise
attract investment,
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否则可能不会在吸引投资的同时
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while still being
competitive and innovative.
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仍具竞争力和创新性。
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Sounds pretty good, right?
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听起来不错吧?
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I guess that's why,
at the end of a class the other day,
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我想这是为何前几天课程结束时,
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a student, all red and jazzed up,
basically shouted at me.
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一位学生满脸通红、
兴奋不已地几乎冲我大喊,
03:02
"I've always been a straight A student,
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“我一直是全优学生,
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done all the work, read all the books,
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做了所有作业、读了所有的书,
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and now you're telling me
that all my life,
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现在你才告诉我
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I've missed hearing about a movement
with this magnitude?"
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这个我从没听过的大运动?”
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I get this a lot.
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这样的反馈还有很多。
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The organized cooperative movement
started in 1844,
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有组织的合作社运动
始于 1844 年,
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with the [Rochdale Equitable
Pioneers’ Society].
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由罗契戴尔公平先锋社发起。
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This was a group of weavers and artisans
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这是一群纺织工和工匠,
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who, out of desperation,
opened a store together,
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无奈之下一起开的一家店,
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to sell things that they could
neither get nor afford alone.
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出售他们无法单独获得
或负担不起的东西。
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The cooperative movement spread from there
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合作运动由此蔓延开来,
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and became a global phenomenon.
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并成为全球现象。
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Many of the modern-day credit unions
and farm credit systems
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你在北美看到的许多现代信用合作社
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you see in North America
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和农业信贷系统
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are descendants of the famous
cooperative Raiffeisen system in Germany.
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是德国著名合作瑞福森系统的后代。
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And here in Finland,
a man named Hannes Gebhard
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在芬兰,名为 Hannes Gebhard 的人
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is considered to be the father
of the Finnish cooperative movement.
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被认为是芬兰合作社运动之父。
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In the 19th century,
he introduced cooperatives
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在 19 世纪,他引入了合作社,
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to help people tackle debt,
poverty and unemployment.
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帮助人们解决债务、
贫困和失业问题。
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It turns out this is the foundation
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原来这正是
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of a country known
for its democratic values,
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一个以民主价值观、
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high-quality education
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优质教育和公民福祉著称的
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and the happiness of its citizens.
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国家的基础。
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And this line of impact
of the cooperative movement
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合作社运动的这种影响
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can be found in other places
in the world too.
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也可以在世界其他地方发现。
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I'm proud to say that in relative terms,
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我很自豪地说,相对而言,
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Finland is one of the most cooperative
countries in the world.
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芬兰是世界上最合作的国家之一。
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We have about 5.5 million people
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我们有大约 550 万人口,
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who have over seven million memberships
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在从食品杂货到银行的各种合作社中
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in cooperatives that run everything
from groceries to banks.
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拥有超过 700 万会员。
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Each time I shop
at our grocery cooperative,
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每次在我们的食品杂货合作社购物、
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when I fill in my gas tank,
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给油箱加油、
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eat at our jointly owned
restaurants, stay at a hotel
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在共同拥有的餐厅用餐、入住酒店、
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or buy clothes or hardware stuff,
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或买衣服、五金件时,
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I get bonuses that can be
up to five percent.
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我能得到最高达 5% 的奖金。
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And when I pay with
our cooperative's bank card,
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当用我们合作社的银行卡付款时,
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I get an additional half percent off.
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会再打九九五折。
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And I know that when
the cooperative is doing well,
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我知道当合作社运作良好时,
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it's not funding a single person's
luxury vacation in the Bahamas.
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它不是在资助一个人
去巴哈马的豪华假期。
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Every year, a governance body
comprised of elected representatives
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每年,由选举产生的代表
组成的管理机构
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decides how any operating
surplus will be used.
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决定如何使用营业盈余。
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Some of the money
will go back to the members.
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部分盈余将返还给会员,
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For example, this year,
our consumer cooperative,
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比如今年,我们的消费合作社
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Pohjois-Karjalan Osuuskauppa,
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Pohjois-Karjalan Osuuskauppa,
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or PKO, as we call it --
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我们简称为 PKO ——
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is part of the S Group,
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它是 S 集团的一部分,
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which is the biggest
cooperative group in Finland --
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S 集团是芬兰最大的合作集团——
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they had a surplus of two percent
on members' purchases,
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他们在会员购买上盈余 2%,
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and 12 percent return on money invested.
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并有 12% 的投资回报率。
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When you add up
the savings and the return,
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当储蓄和回报相加时,
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my family received
more than 2,000 euros back,
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我家分到 2,000 多欧元,
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which is more than we spend
on groceries in one month.
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比我们一个月花在
日用百货上的钱还多。
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Not to mention that our groceries
are about seven percent cheaper
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更不用说了,我们的食品杂货价格
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than its main competitor.
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比主要竞争对手还便宜约 7%。
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I'm a member-owner in three cooperatives,
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我是三个合作社的会员,
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and my husband has four memberships:
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我丈夫有四个会员资格:
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a consumer, a bank, an insurance
and a water cooperative.
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消费者、银行、
保险公司和水合作社。
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We have two beautiful girls
who are 10 and 12 years old,
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我们有两个漂亮女儿,
分别是 10 岁和 12 岁,
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and they are also
member-owners of the S Group.
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她们也是 S 集团的会员,
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Their memberships cost us
one hundred euros each.
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给她们购买会员是 100 欧/人。
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We want to pass on the legacy
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我们想传承遗产,
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and teach them about the benefits
of cooperatives early on.
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并尽早让她们了解合作社的益处。
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And of course,
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当然了,
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they are very happy
about the yearly interest
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她们对合作资金的年息
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on cooperative capital.
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感到非常高兴。
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But it's not just about us
getting money back.
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但这不仅仅是我们能拿回钱,
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It's about the greater good
for our community.
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还为了我们社区的更大利益。
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I'm not only talking
about taxes and employment,
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我不仅在谈论税收和就业——
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even though our consumer cooperative
is the biggest employer in the area.
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尽管我们的消费者合作社
是该地区最大的雇主——
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I'm talking about support
for young people, sports, arts,
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我还指对年轻人、体育、艺术、
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university and cultural events.
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大学和文化活动的支持。
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For example,
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例如,
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as a member of the board of PKO,
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作为 PKO 的董事会成员,
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a few years ago, we agreed to build
a sports hall for Lieksa,
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几年前,我们同意为临近城市
Lieksa 市建造一个体育馆,
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which is a nearby city here,
in the eastern part of Finland,
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位于在芬兰东部,
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belonging to our cooperative's
operational area.
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属于我们合作社的运营区域。
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After we built it,
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建好之后,
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the city signed a very long-term
rental agreement with us,
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该市与我们签订了
超长期的租赁协议,
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so financially, the investment made sense.
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所以从财务上看,
这项投资是有道理的。
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And of course, it was a major gesture
to the local people,
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当然,这对当地人是个重大举措,
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who now have proper facilities
to do all kinds of sports.
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他们现在有了进行
各种运动的适当设施。
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In another case,
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在另一种情况下,
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we ended up rejecting
the investment proposal
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我们最终拒绝了
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regarding building
a senior house downtown.
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在市中心建造高级住宅的投资建议。
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The idea was a very good one,
but we declined,
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这个主意很好,但我们拒绝了,
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because it was a big housing complex
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因为这是一个很大的住宅区,
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requiring a lot of capital
with a low expected investment return
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需要大量资金,但预期投资回报低,
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that would only serve
a small part of the membership,
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只会为一小部分成员服务,
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less than one percent
of our over 100,000 members,
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不足我们逾十万会员的 1%,
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and therefore, we decided against it.
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因此,我们决定否决。
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In a cooperative,
if we only emphasize profitability,
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在合作社中,如果只强调盈利能力,
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the interests of the membership
may quickly become secondary.
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那么我们成员的利益
可能很快成为次要的。
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On the other hand,
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另一方面,
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a situation where too much consideration
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过多考虑
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is given to the members' differing
and changing interests
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成员的不同和变化的利益
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may jeopardize business performance.
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可能会危及经营业绩。
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So therefore, finding
a balance is important.
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因此,找到平衡点很重要。
08:16
One role should not have
priority over the other.
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一个角色不应优先于另一个角色。
08:20
Metaphorically speaking,
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打个比方,
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cooperatives, by nature,
have been given two solid feet,
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合作社天生就被赋予两只坚实的脚,
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and as you know, it's much easier
to stand on two feet than on one foot.
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正如你所知,两脚站立
比单脚站立容易得多。
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Ensuring that is the board's
most important task.
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确保双脚站立是董事会最重要任务,
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It is a very cool system.
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这是一个非常酷的系统。
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That balance means
that cooperatives can help us
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这种平衡意味着合作社可以帮助我们
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meet ambitious environmental goals.
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实现雄心勃勃的环境目标。
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In Finland, for example,
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以芬兰为例,
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S Group aims at carbon negativity
by the year 2025.
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2025 年实现负碳
是 S 集团的目标。
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REScoop.eu, a network of 1,900
energy cooperatives
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REscoop.eu 是由 1,900 个
能源合作社组成的网络,
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with way over one million members,
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拥有远超一百万的会员,
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is promoting community energy,
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正在推进社区能源,
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which is key to a decarbonized economy
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这是脱碳经济的关键,
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and a crucial step
in tackling climate change.
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也是应对气候变化的关键一步。
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This is about more
than windmills and solar panels.
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这不单单是风车
和太阳能电池板,
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Community energy can help overcome
the urban and rural divide
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社区能源可以帮助
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and close the gap between north and south,
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克服城乡鸿沟、
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between rich and poor,
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缩小南北差距和贫富差距,
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because it empowers local people.
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因为它赋予了当地人权力。
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Community energy
leads to energy democracy,
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社区能源带来能源民主,
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holding the promise
of an economy and a society
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在地球的边界内,
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based on cooperation
rather than competition
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秉承以合作而非竞争为基础的
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within the boundaries of planet Earth.
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经济和社会的承诺。
09:42
What is so wonderful
about the cooperative system worldwide
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世界范围内的合作社制度
奇妙之处在于,
09:47
is that while cooperatives may sell
different products or services,
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虽然合作社可能
销售不同的产品或服务,
09:50
the goal is still the same
for all of them,
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但其目标都是相同的,
09:54
to create sustainable businesses
that benefit the people
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那就是创建可持续的企业,
09:58
and the communities they serve,
lasting for generations.
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造福其所服务的人民
和社区,世代相传。
10:02
This is also a significant
global phenomenon,
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合作社是一个重要的全球现象,
10:06
an invisible giant of the economy,
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是隐形的经济巨人,
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resonating so well with the values
of regular people,
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它与普通人的价值观产生共鸣,
10:13
a form of business that recognizes
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是一种认识到我们人类
10:15
that we people have
other motivations and interests
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除了纯粹的经济动机和兴趣之外,
10:19
than purely and only economical ones.
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还有其他动机和兴趣的商业形式。
10:23
Today, there are more than three million
cooperatives around the world,
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今天,全世界有超过 300 万个合作社,
10:28
with over a billion members,
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拥有超过 10 亿会员,
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employing 280 million people,
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雇佣 2.8 亿人,
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which is 20 percent more
than multinational companies.
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比跨国公司高出 20%;
10:37
Cooperatives sell more
than two trillion dollars' worth
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合作社出售的商品和服务
10:41
of goods and services.
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价值超过 2 万亿美元,
10:43
That number is larger
than the GDP of Canada.
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高于加拿大的国内生产总值。
10:48
Doing good business
and doing good at the same time
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同时做好生意和有益的事真是绝配,
10:52
really makes an excellent match,
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而且确实有效,
10:54
and this really works,
because it's all about participation.
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因为这完全取决于参与。
10:59
And while having lots of people
involved in any project
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虽然让很多人参与到任何项目中
11:02
can often make things
a little bit more complicated,
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往往令事情变得更复杂一点,
11:05
we can also often get
better and fairer outcomes.
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但我们经常可以得到
更好、更公平的结果。
11:10
We can create better businesses,
if we truly include the people they serve.
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如果真正把所服务的人包括进来,
我们就能创造更好的企业。
11:16
When we Finns travel abroad,
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当我们芬兰人出国旅行时,
11:18
we tend to brag about our sauna,
sisu, fresh air,
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喜欢炫耀我们的芬兰浴、
芬兰人精神、新鲜空气、
11:22
clean waters and endless forests.
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清澈的海水和一望无际的森林;
11:25
And of course, that the real Santa Claus
comes from Finland.
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当然,真正的圣诞老人来自芬兰。
11:29
But what we really should be
bragging about is our cooperatives.
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但真正应该炫耀的是我们的合作社,
11:33
Because unlike capitalism,
the cooperative movement is not broken.
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因为与资本主义不同,
合作社运动并没有崩溃,
11:38
It just needs better marketing.
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它只是需要更好地营销。
11:41
Thank you.
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谢谢。
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