How to Harness the Ancient Partnership between Forests and Fungi | Colin Averill | TED

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Prevodilac: Milenka Okuka Lektor: Ivana Korom
00:08
So we know forests play an essential role in regulating the Earth's climate.
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Znamo da šume igraju ključnu ulogu u regulaciji klime na zemlji.
00:14
However, most of what we know about those forests
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Međutim, veći deo onoga što zamo o šumama
00:16
is actually based on things we can measure aboveground.
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je zapravo zasnovan na stvarima koje možemo da merimo iznad zemlje.
00:20
So historically, ecologists like myself would come to this place,
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Istorijski gledano, ekolozi poput mene bi došli na ovo mesto
00:24
and we’d count the number of tree stems we’d find.
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i brojali bismo stabla drveća koja zateknemo.
00:26
We’d identify which species they are,
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Identifikovali bismo kojoj vrsti pripadaju,
00:28
and today we’d probably remotely sense features of this forest canopy from space.
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a trenutno bismo verovatno iz daljine opažali odlike šumske krošnje iz svemira.
00:33
And all of this absolutely makes sense.
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I sve ovo skroz ima smisla.
00:36
Aboveground is where photosynthesis happens.
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Iznad zemlje se dešava fotosinteza.
00:39
Photosynthesis is how carbon and energy enter forests.
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Fotosintezom ugljenik i energija prodiru u šume.
00:43
Photosynthesis is how trees can remove carbon dioxide
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Putem fotosinteze drveće uklanja ugljen-dioksid
00:47
from the atmosphere.
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iz atmosfere.
00:49
However, we also know most trees are limited in some way,
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Međutim, znamo i da je većina drveća ograničena na neki način
00:52
by soil resources like water or nutrients.
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resursima iz zemljišta, poput vode ili hranljivih tvari.
00:54
And to access those resources, trees have to build roots.
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A kako bi pristupilo tim resursima, drveće mora da razvija korenje.
00:57
And trees build an incredible amount of roots.
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Drveće razvija neverovatnu količinu korenja.
01:01
So in some forests, there can be as much or more biomass belowground,
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Te u nekim šumama imamo istu količinu ili više biomase pod zemljom,
01:05
in root structures,
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u korenskim strukturama,
01:06
as aboveground, in stems and leaves.
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nego nad zemljom, u stablima i lišću.
01:08
Decades of research have now made very clear
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Decenije istraživanja su trenutno izričite
01:11
that belowground ecology --
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da je ispodpovršinska ekologija -
01:13
so what’s going on in the soil -- is really essential to understanding
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dakle, ono što se dešava u zemljištu - istinski krucijalna za razumevanje
01:17
how these forest systems work.
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kako šumski sistemi funkcionišu.
01:19
However, if you follow these root systems all the way out to their terminal ends,
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Međutim, ako pratite ove sisteme korenja skroz do njihovih krajnjih završetaka,
01:23
the finest tips in the root system,
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najfinijih vrhova korenskog sistema,
01:26
and you look closely -- I mean super closely,
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i pažljivo se zagledate - mislim baš pažljivo,
01:28
like, you’re going to need a microscope closely --
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kao, biće vam potreban mikroskop, toliko pažljivo -
01:31
you discover a place where the tree stops being a plant,
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otkrićete mesto gde drvo prestaje da bude biljka
01:34
and starts becoming a fungus.
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i postaje gljiva.
01:36
So most trees on Earth form a partnership,
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Većina drveća na zemlji obrazuje partnerstvo,
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or what scientists call symbiosis,
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ili ono što naučnici nazivaju simbiozom,
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with mycorrhizal fungi.
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sa mikorizalnim gljivama.
01:44
So this, in my opinion,
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Ovo je, po mom mišljenju,
01:45
is one of the most remarkable images ever captured of these organisms.
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jedna od najizvanrednijih slika ovih organizama ikad zabeležena.
01:49
So in the background, at the top,
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U pozadini, na vrhu,
01:51
you can see this dense network of fungal hyphae.
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vidite gustu mrežu gljivičnih hifa.
01:53
These are essentially like roots, but for fungi, instead of plants.
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To je u suštini poput korenja, ali za gljive, ne za biljke.
01:57
And in the foreground,
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A u pročelju
01:59
you can see these incredible, multinucleated fungal spores,
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vidite ove izvanredne, višejedarske gljivične spore,
02:02
which look totally unreal, but absolutely are.
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koje izgledaju skroz nestvarno, ali su apsolutno stvarne.
02:05
These are the reproductive structures of the fungus.
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To su reproduktivne strukture gljiva.
02:08
These have the potential to become entirely new fungal networks.
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Imaju potencijal da postanu potpuno nove mreže gljiva.
02:12
Mycorrhizal fungi are essential
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Mikorizalne gljive su ključne
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to how basically all plants access limiting soil resources.
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za to kako u suštini sve biljke pristupaju ograničenim zemljišnim resursima.
02:19
There's actually evidence
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Zapravo postoji dokaz
02:20
that when plants first made the evolutionary transition
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da kada su biljke prvi put napravile evolutivni prelaz
02:23
from living in water to living on land,
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od života u vodi do života na kopnu,
02:26
they evolved this symbiosis before they even evolved roots.
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evoluirale su ove simbioze pre nego što su čak evoluirale korenje.
02:29
And so this partnership between forests and their fungi is ancient,
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Te je ovo partnerstvo između šuma i njihovih gljiva drevno,
02:33
and it stretches back hundreds of millions of years.
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i seže stotinama miliona godina unazad.
02:36
However, these roots don't have to be just fungi.
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Međutim, ovo korenje ne moraju da budu samo gljive.
02:39
They can also be, for instance, bacteria.
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Mogu da budu i, primera radi, bakterije.
02:42
So these circular structures in this root network
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Ove kružne strukture u mreži korenja
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are called root nodules.
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se nazivaju korenski čvorovi.
02:46
They house symbiotic, nitrogen-fixing bacteria.
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Oni su dom za simbiotske bakterije koje vrše fiksaciju azota.
02:50
And what these bacteria do
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Ono što ove bakterije rade
02:51
is actually convert nitrogen gas in the atmosphere
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je da zapravo pretvaraju azot iz atmosfere
02:55
into plant-usable forms,
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u oblike korisne za biljke,
02:57
and in turn, they nurture plant growth.
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a zauzvrat, pospešuju rast biljke.
03:00
And the complexity of soil biology just keeps going.
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A složenost biologije zemljišta se samo nastavlja.
03:03
So these root symbionts are embedded in an even more complex network
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Ovi korenski simbioti su ugrađeni u još složenije mreže
03:06
of free-living bacterial and fungal decomposers,
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slobodnih bakterija, gljivičnih dekompozitora,
03:09
and archaea and protists,
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arheja i protista,
03:11
microscopic soil animals, viruses ...
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mikroskopskih životinja iz tla, virusa...
03:14
The biodiversity of soil communities is astonishing.
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Biodiverzitet društava u zemljištu je zapanjujući.
03:18
We now know a handful of soil
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Sada znamo da pregršt zemlje
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can easily contain over 1,000 coexisting microbial species.
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s lakoćom može da sardži preko 1 000 koegzistirajućih mikrobskih vrsta.
03:25
And so all of this, this is the soil microbiome.
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Dakle, sve ovo, ovo je zemljišni mikrobiom.
03:29
This is the forest microbiome, this is the ecosystem microbiome.
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Ovo je šumski mikrobiom, ovo je mikrobiom ekosistema.
03:33
So breakthroughs in DNA sequencing technology
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Nova otkrića u tehnologiji sekvenciranja DNK
03:36
have finally turned the lights on belowground.
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su konačno osvetlila podzemlje.
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DNA has allowed us to see these microbial communities
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DNK nam je omogućila da vidimo ove mikrobske zajednice
03:43
in unprecedented detail,
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do nezabeleženih detalja,
03:44
and, only recently, at unprecedented scales.
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a, tek nedavno, i u nezabeležnim razmerama.
03:48
Yet despite these breakthroughs,
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Ipak, uprkos ovim otkrićima,
03:50
I'd argue we still don't know the answers to seemingly simple questions, like this:
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tvrdio bih da i dalje ne znamo odgovore na naoko jednostavna pitanja, poput:
03:55
"What does a healthy forest microbiome look like?"
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„Kako izgleda zdrav šumski mikrobiom?”
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We're far closer to answering a question like this for people
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Daleko smo bliže da odgovorimo na ovo pitanje u vezi s ljudima
04:02
than we are for plants.
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nego u vezi s biljkama.
04:03
The Human Microbiome Project has really led in this area.
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Projekat ljudskog mikrobioma uistinu predvodi u ovoj oblasti.
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So the human body is a microbial ecosystem.
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Dakle, ljudsko telo je mikrobski ekosistem.
04:09
Each of us houses an incredibly biodiverse community of bacteria in our gut,
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Svako od nas pohranjuje neverovatno bioraznoliko društvo bakterija u crevima,
04:14
and that has a profound impact on our health.
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a to ima istinski uticaj na naše zdravlje.
04:17
This was discovered by medical microbiologists
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Ovo su otkrili medicinski mikrobiolozi
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using DNA sequencing to characterize which bacteria
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upotrebom sekvenciranja DNK kako bi odredili koje bakterije
04:22
live in hundreds of people's bodies.
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žive u stotinama ljudskih tela.
04:24
And importantly, also noting health features of those same people.
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I što je još važnije, istovremeno beležeći zdravstvene odlike tih istih ljudi.
04:28
So, are they sick? And if so, with what?
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Jesu li bolesni? Ako jesu, od čega?
04:30
What's their blood pressure, their digestive health,
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Kakav im je krvni pritisak, digestivno zdravlje,
04:33
their mental health?
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mentalno zdravlje?
04:34
And by combining all of that information,
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I kombinovanjem svih tih informacija,
04:36
those microbiologists could begin to identify
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mikrobiolozi su mogli da započnu identifikaciju
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combinations of bacteria linked to health and disease.
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kombinacija bakterija povezanih sa zdravljem i bolešću.
04:42
And these analyses became a road map
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A te analize su postale mapa
04:44
for the development of human microbiome transplant therapies,
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za razvoj terapija transplantacije ljudskog mikrobioma,
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which is essentially ecosystem restoration,
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a to je u suštini obnova ekosistema,
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but for your gut microbiome.
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samo za vaš crevni mikrobiom.
04:52
And these therapies are now on the road to market
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A ove terapije su trenutno u fazi izlaska na tržište
04:55
to treat some of these diseases today.
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kako bi lečile neke od današnjih bolesti.
04:57
And so drawing from this work, my team asked,
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Inspirisana ovim radom, moja ekipa se zapitala:
04:59
"What would it look like
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„Kako bi izgledalo
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to take the Human Microbiome Project approach,
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uzeti pristup iz Projekta ljudskog mikrobioma,
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but apply it to the forest?”
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ali primeniti ga na šumu?”
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What could we discover about the forest carbon cycle?
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Šta bismo mogli otkriti o ugljeničnom ciklusu šume?
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Could we identify places
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Da li bismo mogli da odredimo mesta
05:12
where we could actually do belowground microbial restoration,
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gde bismo zapravo mogli da obavimo obnovu mikrobioma pod zemljom,
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and, in the process, combat climate change?
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i usput se suprotstaviti klimatskim promenama?
05:18
Over the past three years,
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Tokom protekle tri godine,
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we’ve been working with forest scientists across Europe
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radili smo sa šumarskim naučnicima širom Evrope
05:22
to do exactly that.
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kako bismo baš to uradili.
05:23
In each of these locations,
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Na svakoj od ovih lokacija,
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scientists have been documenting forest health for decades.
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naučnici decenijama dokumentuju zdravlje šume.
05:28
And so, we asked our forest research partners
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Pa smo upitali naše partnere, šumarske istraživače,
05:30
to go out to each of these forests
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da pođu do svih ovih šuma
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and collect a small sample of soil,
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i sakupe mali uzorak zemljišta,
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which they then shipped back to our lab in Zurich
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koje su potom slali nazad u našu laboratoriju u Cirihu
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so we could extract and sequence DNA,
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kako bismo mogli da izdvojimo i sekvenciramo DNK,
05:40
which allowed us to understand which microorganisms,
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a to nam je omogućilo da razumemo koji mikroorganizmi,
05:43
and particularly fungi,
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a naročito gljive,
05:44
live in each of these forests.
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žive u svakoj od ovih šuma.
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And then finally, we used statistics and machine learning
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A onda smo naposletku koristili statistiku i mašinsko učenje
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to relate which microorganisms live in a forest
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kako bismo povezali mikroorganizme koji žive u šumi
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to a really important forest health metric:
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sa istinski važnom metrikom zdravlja šume:
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tree growth rate
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stopom rasta drveta
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and carbon-capture rate aboveground.
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i stopom hvatanja ugljenika nad zemljom.
05:58
Now, once we controlled for the environmental drivers of tree growth --
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Čim smo izvršili kontrolu uslova iz okoline koji podstiču rast drveća -
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so how warm and wet each of these places is,
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dakle, koliko je toplo i vlažno svako od ovih mesta,
06:04
as well as other variables we know control background site fertility --
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kao i druge varijable za koje znamo da kontrolišu okolnu plodnost mesta -
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we discovered that particularly which fungi colonize
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otkrili smo da tačno koje gljive kolonizuju
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the roots of these trees
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korenje ovog drveća
06:13
is linked to threefold variation in how fast these trees grow,
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je povezano sa trostrukom varijacijom u rastu ovog drveća,
06:17
how fast they remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
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koliko brzo uklanja ugljen-dioksid iz atmosfere.
06:21
So put another way,
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Drugim rečima,
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these correlations imply that you could have two pine forests,
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ove korelacije nagoveštavaju da možete da imate dve borove šume,
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sitting side by side,
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jednu pored druge,
06:27
experiencing the same climate, growing in the same soils.
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koje imaju istu klimu, rastu u istom zemljištu.
06:31
But if one of them was colonized
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Ako jednu pak kolonizuje
06:33
by the right community of fungi on its roots,
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odgovarajuća zajednica gljiva u njenom korenu,
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it could be growing up to three times as fast as that adjacent forest.
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mogla bi da raste i do tri puta brže od susedne šume.
06:40
And furthermore, these patterns were not driven
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Dodatno, ove obrasce ne pokreće
06:44
by the presence of particularly high-performing species or strains,
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prisustvo naročitih blagorodnih vrsta ili sojeva,
06:48
but instead, they were driven by biodiverse and completely different
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naprotiv, pokreću ih bioraznolika i potpuno različita
06:51
communities of fungi.
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društva gljiva.
06:53
And so these fungal signatures are super exciting to us
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Stoga su nam izuzetno uzbudljive ove oznake gljiva
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because they imply an opportunity to manage,
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jer nagoveštavaju priliku da se bavimo
07:00
and in many cases, actually rewild the forest fungal microbiome.
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i u mnogim slučajevima, nanovo prirodno obnovimo gljivični mikrobiom šume.
07:06
So, for example, can we reintroduce fungal biodiversity
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Na primer, možemo li da uvedemo gljivični biodiverzitet
07:11
into a managed timber forestry landscape?
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u pejzaž na kome se obavlja industrijsko krčenje šume?
07:13
And in the process, can we make those trees grow faster?
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I usput, možemo li da podstaknemo to drveće da brže raste?
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Can we make them capture more carbon in their tree stems and in their soils?
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Možemo li ga navesti da hvata više ugljenika u stablima i zemljištu?
07:21
Can we rewild the soil and combat climate change?
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Možemo li da obnovimo zemljište i suprotstavimo se klimatskim promenama?
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And these aren't just rhetorical questions --
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A ovo nisu tek retorička pitanja -
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we've actually started doing this.
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zapravo smo započeli s radom.
07:29
So this is one of our field trials in Wales, in the United Kingdom.
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Ovo je jedno od naših terenskih ispitivanja
u Velsu, u Ujedinjenom Kraljevstvu.
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It’s run in collaboration with the charity there
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Sprovodi se u saradnji sa tamošnjom dobrotvornom organizacijom
07:34
called the Carbon Community.
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nazvanom Ugljenična zajednica.
07:36
It’s 28 acres, or 11 hectares,
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Radi se o 28 jutara ili 11 hektara,
07:39
and it's set up as a block-randomized controlled trial.
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i postavljeno je kao kontrolisani eksperiment blokiranja.
07:42
This is analogous to how you would run a drug trial,
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Analogno je tome kako biste sprovodili kliničko ispitivanje,
07:45
but in this case, it's for trees instead of people.
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ali u ovom slučaju, radi se o drveću, a ne ljudima.
07:48
And here, we do a pretty straightforward experiment.
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A ovde izvodimo prilično prost eksperiment.
07:51
We either plant trees, business as usual --
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Sadimo drveće na uobičajen način -
07:53
which is just direct planting of seedlings into the ground --
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a to je prosto direktna sadnja sadnica u zemlju -
07:56
or we plant trees, and at the moment of planting,
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ili sadimo drveće, i u trenutku sadnje,
07:59
we add a small handful of soil.
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dodamo malenu pregršt zemlje.
08:03
But it's not just any soil.
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Ne radi se pak o bilo kakvoj zemlji.
08:05
It's soil sourced from a forest
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Radi se o zemlji uzetoj iz šume
08:07
our analyses have identified as harboring potentially high-performing fungi.
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za koju su naše analize odredile da gaji potencijalno blagorodne gljive.
08:13
So since we reintroduced microbial biodiversity
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Otkad smo nanovo uveli mikrobiomski biodiverzitet
08:18
into some of these sites,
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na neka od ovih mesta,
08:20
we've observed that where we actually did that,
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zabeležili smo da tamo gde smo to zapravo uradili,
08:22
we've been able to accelerate tree growth and carbon capture in tree stems
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bili smo u stanju da ubrzamo rast drveća i hvatanje ugljenika u stablima
08:27
by 30 to 70 percent, depending on the tree species.
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za 30 do 70 procenta, u zavisnosti od vrste drveta.
08:30
Or put another way --
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Ili, drugim rečima -
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where we manipulated and rewilded the invisible microbiology of this place,
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gde smo intervenisali i obnovili nevidljivu mikrobiologiju mesta,
08:37
we’ve begun to change how that entire place works.
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počeli smo da menjamo celokupno funkcionisanje tog mesta.
08:41
Now it's important to emphasize
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Važno je naglasiti
08:44
that we're really excited about these findings,
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da smo zaista uzbuđeni zbog ovih otkrića,
08:46
but we also understand they're still early.
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ali takođe razumemo da je još uvek rano.
Želimo da vidimo još mnogo ispitivanja većih razmera na terenu
08:49
We want to see many more large-scale field trials
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08:51
and many more locations with many more years of data.
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i na još mnogo lokacija sa podacima iz više godina.
08:55
However, beyond just these carbon and climate outcomes,
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Međutim, mimo ishoda u vezi sa ugljenikom i klimom,
08:58
I think the most exciting thing here
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smatram da je najuzbudljivije od svega
09:00
is that we can actually do this with wild and native and biodiverse
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to što možemo ovo da obavimo sa divljom, autohtonom i bioraznolikom
09:04
combinations of microorganisms.
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kombinacijom mikroorganizama.
09:06
And while we pointed this approach at forestry,
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I, iako smo ovaj pristup usmerili na šumarstvo,
09:08
in principle, this kind of science has the potential to generalize
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u suštini, ovaj vid nauke ima potencijal da bude uopšten
09:12
to all of our managed landscapes.
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na sve naše obradive pejzaže.
09:14
We can begin asking questions like,
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Možemo da počnemo postavljati pitanja:
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"What does a healthy agricultural microbiome look like?"
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„Kako izgleda zdrav poljoprivredni mikrobiom?”
09:19
Thinking across both food and forest agriculture.
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Razmišljajući o poljoprivrednom uzgoju i hrane i šuma.
09:23
And there's reason to think a biodiversity-first approach
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I s pravom možemo smatrati da bi davanje prvenstva biodiverzitetu
09:26
may be particularly powerful here.
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moglo da bude izuzetno moćno ovde.
09:28
And that’s because the history of agriculture
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A to je tako jer je istorija poljoprivrede
09:31
has been an exercise in reductionism.
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bila vežba iz redukcionizma.
09:33
We've identified high-performing plant species,
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Odredili smo blagorodne vrste biljaka,
09:36
and then strains,
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a potom sojeve,
09:37
and then we’ve selectively bred them,
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i zatim smo ih selektivno odgajali,
09:39
and now we genetically modify them.
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a sada ih genetski modifikujemo.
09:41
And finally, we plant those organisms out in vast monocultures.
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I naposletku, sadimo ove organizme u ogromne monokulture.
09:44
So a single plant species as far as you can see.
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Dakle, samo jedna vrsta biljke dokle vam pogled seže.
09:47
And to be clear,
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I, čisto da se zna,
09:49
this has produced very productive agroecosystems.
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ovo je proizvelo veoma plodne agroekosisteme.
09:53
But it's also produced ecosystems
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Međutim, proizvelo je i ekosisteme
09:55
we’re coming to understand are remarkably fragile.
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za koje počinjemo da uviđamo da su izuzetno krhki.
09:59
Systems increasingly sensitive to extreme climate events,
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Sisteme sve osetljivije na ekstremne klimatske događaje,
10:02
novel pathogens.
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nove patogene.
10:03
Systems incredibly reliant on chemical inputs,
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Sisteme neverovatno zavisne od hemijskih dodataka,
10:06
we're coming to understand have really serious externalities.
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za koje počinjemo da uviđamo da imaju zaista ozbiljne posledice.
10:10
So we now have the data, computational tools
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Sada imamo podatke, proračunske alate
10:13
and the ecological theory to start going the other way,
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i teoriju ekologije da se počnemo kretati u suprotnom smeru,
10:16
to lean into biodiversity and complexity.
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da se oslanjamo na biodiverzitet i složenost.
10:18
And once we do, the question really becomes,
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A kad to uradimo, pitanje zaista postaje
10:20
by rewilding our soils,
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obnavljajući naša zemljišta,
10:23
can we make our managed food and forest landscapes
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možemo li pretvoriti naše obradive pejzaže za uzgoj hrane i šuma
10:26
reservoirs of belowground biodiversity?
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u rezervoare ispodpovršinskog biodiverziteta?
10:29
And in the process,
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I usput,
10:30
can we enhance yields and carbon capture
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možemo li uvećati prinose, hvatanje ugljenika
10:32
and all the other services we ask of these ecosystems?
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i sve druge usluge koje tražimo od naših ekosistema?
10:36
I think there's a lot of reason to be incredibly hopeful here.
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Smatram da ovde ima mnogo razloga za optimizam.
10:40
And I think we also shouldn't be so surprised
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I smatram da ne bi trebalo da budemo toliko iznenađeni
10:42
that these microscopic organisms have the potential
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što ovi mikroskopski organizmi imaju potencijal
10:45
for such enormous, ecosystem-scale effects.
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za tako ogromne efekte u razmerama ekosistema.
10:48
And that’s because we’ve known now, really for a long time,
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A tako je jer sada znamo, uistinu već dugo vremena,
10:52
that forests are fungi.
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da šume čine gljive.
10:55
And they’re incredibly biodiverse communities of bacteria and archaea
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A one su neverovatno bioraznolika društva bakterija, arheja,
10:59
and protists and microscopic soil animals and viruses.
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protista, mikroskopskih zemljišnih životinja i virusa.
11:03
Soil is the literal foundation of terrestrial ecosystems,
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Zemljište je bukvalno temelj kopnenih ekosistema,
11:07
and the microbial life that inhabits soil
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a mikrobski život koji naseljava zemljište
11:09
represents some of the most complex and biodiverse
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predstavlja neke od najsloženijih i najbioraznolikijih
11:13
communities of life on Earth.
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živih zajednica na zemlji.
11:15
For the first time,
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Prvi put,
11:17
DNA sequencing is turning the lights on belowground.
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DNK sekvenciranje osvetljava podzemlje.
11:21
It’s allowing us to see these organisms in unprecedented detail
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Omogućuje nam da vidimo ove organizme do nezabeležnih detalja
11:25
and at unprecedented scales.
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i u nezabeležnim razmerama.
11:28
Imagine studying plant biology,
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Zamislite da izučavate biologiju biljaka,
11:32
but you never really knew if you're looking at a sequoia tree
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ali nikad zaista ne znate da li gledate drvo sekvoje
11:35
or a sphagnum moss.
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ili mahovinu sfagnum.
11:38
And then, all of a sudden, you did.
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A onda, iznenada, saznate.
11:42
That's what's happening right now in global environmental microbiology.
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To se upravo dešava u globalnoj ekološkoj mikrobiologiji.
11:46
And so we should expect this revolution
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Stoga bi trebalo da očekujemo revoluciju
11:49
in our understanding of these microscopic organisms,
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u našem razumevanju ovih mikroskopskih organizama,
11:51
and particularly fungi,
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a naročito gljiva,
11:53
to transform how we understand and how we manage our ecosystems
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kako bismo preoblikovali to kako razumemo i bavimo se našim ekosistemima
11:58
in a foundational way.
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na temeljan način.
12:01
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
12:02
(Cheers and applause)
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