The lies our culture tells us about what matters --- and a better way to live | David Brooks

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: migang kim ๊ฒ€ํ† : Jungmin Hwang
00:12
So, we all have bad seasons in life.
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๋ชจ๋‘ ์‚ด๋‹ค ๋ณด๋ฉด ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์‹œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:15
And I had one in 2013.
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์ œ๊ฒ 2013๋…„์ด ๊ทธ๋•Œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:18
My marriage had just ended,
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๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์ƒํ™œ์ด ํŒŒํƒ„์— ๋‹ค๋‹ค๋ž๊ณ ,
00:19
and I was humiliated by that failed commitment.
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์ €๋Š” ์‹คํŒจํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ดด๋กœ์›Œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:22
My kids had left home for college or were leaving.
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์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๋Œ€ํ•™์ƒ์ด ๋˜์–ด ์ง‘์„ ๋– ๋‚ฌ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ณง ๋– ๋‚  ์ฐธ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
00:26
I grew up mostly in the conservative movement,
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์ €๋Š” ๋Œ€์ฒด๋กœ ๋ณด์ˆ˜์ ์ธ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ์ž๋ž์ง€๋งŒ,
00:28
but conservatism had changed,
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๋ณด์ˆ˜์ฃผ์˜๊ฐ€ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ,
00:30
so I lost a lot of those friends, too.
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๋‹น์‹œ ๋งŽ์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์„ ์žƒ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:32
And so what I did is, I lived alone in an apartment,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋Š” ์•„ํŒŒํŠธ์— ํ˜ผ์ž ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ,
00:35
and I just worked.
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์ผ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค,
00:37
If you opened the kitchen drawers where there should have been utensils,
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์กฐ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ฃผ๋ฐฉ์„œ๋ž์—๋Š”
00:40
there were Post-it notes.
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ํฌ์ŠคํŠธ์ž‡์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
00:42
If you opened the other drawers where there should have been plates,
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์ ‘์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ์„œ๋ž๋“ค ์•ˆ์—๋Š”
00:46
I had envelopes.
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๋ด‰ํˆฌ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
00:47
I had work friends, weekday friends, but I didn't have weekend friends.
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์ง์žฅ๋™๋ฃŒ์™€ ์ฃผ์ค‘์— ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ์žˆ์–ด๋„ ์ฃผ๋ง์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:51
And so my weekends were these long, howling silences.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ฃผ๋ง์€ ์•„์ฃผ ๊ธธ๊ณ ๋„ ๊ณ ์š”ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
00:56
And I was lonely.
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์ €๋Š” ์™ธ๋กœ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:58
And loneliness, unexpectedly, came to me in the form of --
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณ ๋…์€ ์˜ˆ๊ธฐ์น˜ ์•Š์€ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:02
it felt like fear, a burning in my stomach.
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์†์ด ํƒ€๋Š” ๋“ฏํ•œ ๊ณตํฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์กŒ์ฃ .
01:05
And it felt a little like drunkenness,
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์ €๋Š” ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ทจํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ,
01:07
just making bad decisions, just fluidity, lack of solidity.
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์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋ณ€๋•์„ ๋ถ€๋ฆฌ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:13
And the painful part of that moment was the awareness
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ ๊ณ ํ†ต์Šค๋Ÿฌ์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€
01:17
that the emptiness in my apartment was just reflective of the emptiness
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์•„ํŒŒํŠธ์˜ ํ…… ๋นˆ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด ์ œ ๋‚ด๋ฉด์˜ ๊ณตํ—ˆํ•จ์„
01:20
in myself,
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๋ฐ˜์˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ,
01:22
and that I had fallen for some of the lies that our culture tells us.
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์‚ฌํšŒ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์— ์†์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:27
The first lie is that career success is fulfilling.
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์ฒซ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์€ ์ง์—…์  ์„ฑ๊ณต์ด ์„ฑ์ทจ๊ฐ์„ ์ค€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:30
I've had a fair bit of career success,
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์ œ ์ปค๋ฆฌ์–ด๋Š” ๊ฝค ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ ,
01:32
and I've found that it helps me avoid the shame I would feel
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‚™์˜ค์ž์˜€๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋Š๊ผˆ์„ ๋ฒ•ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์›€์„
01:35
if I felt myself a failure,
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๊ฐ–์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
01:37
but it hasn't given me any positive good.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ์ •์ ์ธ ํ–‰๋ณต์„ ์ฃผ์ง„ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:40
The second lie is I can make myself happy,
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๋‘๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:44
that if I just win one more victory,
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ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋งŒ ๋” ์ด๊ธฐ๋ฉด,
01:46
lose 15 pounds, do a little more yoga,
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์‚ด์„ 15ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋งŒ ๋บ€๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ข€ ๋” ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์š”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
01:50
I'll get happy.
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์ž์‹ ์ด ํ–‰๋ณตํ•ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
01:51
And that's the lie of self-sufficiency.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ž๊ธฐ๋งŒ์กฑ์˜ ๊ฑฐ์ง“์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:54
But as anybody on their deathbed will tell you,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ž„์ข…์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ•œ๊ฒฐ๊ฐ™์ด ๋งํ•  ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:57
the things that make people happy is the deep relationships of life,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ž๊ธฐ๋งŒ์กฑ์— ๋น ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ,
02:00
the losing of self-sufficiency.
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ํƒ€์ธ๊ณผ ๊นŠ์€ ์œ ๋Œ€๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋งบ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
02:03
The third lie is the lie of the meritocracy.
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์„ธ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์‹ค๋ ฅ์ฃผ์˜์˜ ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:07
The message of the meritocracy is you are what you accomplish.
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์‹ค๋ ฅ์ฃผ์˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์„ฑ์ทจํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ณง ๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:11
The myth of the meritocracy is you can earn dignity
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์‹ค๋ ฅ์ฃผ์˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ช…ํ’ˆ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์น˜๋ฉด
02:13
by attaching yourself to prestigious brands.
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์ž์กด๊ฐ์ด ๋†’์•„์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๊ฒŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:16
The emotion of the meritocracy is conditional love,
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์‹ค๋ ฅ์ฃผ์˜๋Š” ์กฐ๊ฑด์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ์ถ”๊ตฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:19
you can "earn" your way to love.
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ํ•œ๋งˆ๋””๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ "์‚ด" ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:20
The anthropology of the meritocracy is you're not a soul to be purified,
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์‹ค๋ ฅ์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ณธ ์ธ๊ฐ„์€ ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์˜ํ˜ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ,
02:24
you're a set of skills to be maximized.
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์ตœ์ ํ™”๋œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์˜ ์ง‘ํ•ฉ์ฒด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:26
And the evil of the meritocracy
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค๋ ฅ์ฃผ์˜์˜ ํํ•ด๋Š”
02:28
is that people who've achieved a little more than others
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์กฐ๊ธˆ์ด๋ผ๋„ ๋” ์„ฑ์ทจ๋ฅผ ์ด๋ฃฌ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
02:31
are actually worth a little more than others.
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๋” ๊ฐ€์น˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:34
And so the wages of sin are sin.
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์ฃ„์•…์—๋Š” ๋Œ€๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋”ฐ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:36
And my sins were the sins of omission--
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์ €์˜ ์ฃ„๋Š” ๋ˆ„๋ฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:38
not reaching out, failing to show up for my friends,
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์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•˜์ง€๋„, ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋ ค ํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ ,
02:41
evasion, avoiding conflict.
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๊ฐˆ๋“ฑ์„ ํ”ผํ•˜๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:43
And the weird thing was that as I was falling into the valley --
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ๊ฑด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹จ์ ˆ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ณจ์งœ๊ธฐ๋กœ
02:46
it was a valley of disconnection --
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๋–จ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ
02:48
a lot of other people were doing that, too.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์˜€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:51
And that's sort of the secret to my career;
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์˜ ํ•œ ๋น„๋ฐ€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:53
a lot of the things that happen to me
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ๋“ค์€
02:54
are always happening to a lot of other people.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฒช๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:57
I'm a very average person with above average communication skills.
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์ „ ํ™”์ˆ ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚œ ์ง€๊ทนํžˆ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:00
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
03:01
And so I was detached.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:03
And at the same time, a lot of other people were detached
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๋™์‹œ์—, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ์„œ๋กœ ์œตํ™”ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ 
03:06
and isolated and fragmented from each other.
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๋ถ„์—ด๋˜๊ณ , ๊ณ ๋ฆฝ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:09
Thirty-five percent of Americans over 45 are chronically lonely.
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45์„ธ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ ์ค‘ 35%๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ์„ฑ์ ์ธ ์™ธ๋กœ์›€์„ ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:12
Only eight percent of Americans report having meaningful conversation
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๋‹จ 8%๋งŒ์ด ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์˜ ์ด์›ƒ๊ณผ
03:15
with their neighbors.
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์ง„์‹ฌ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:16
Only 32 percent of Americans say they trust their neighbors,
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ ์ค‘ 32%๋งŒ์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ด์›ƒ์„ ์‹ ๋ขฐํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉฐ,
03:19
and only 18 percent of millennials.
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๋ฐ€๋ ˆ๋‹ˆ์–ผ ์„ธ๋Œ€์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‹จ 18%๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:21
The fastest-growing political party is unaffiliated.
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์ •์น˜์— ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ธ‰์ฆํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:24
The fastest-growing religious movement is unaffiliated.
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์ข…๊ต๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ๊ธ‰์ฆํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:26
Depression rates are rising, mental health problems are rising.
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์šฐ์šธ์ฆ์ด๋‚˜ ์ •์‹ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋Š˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ ,
03:29
The suicide rate has risen 30 percent since 1999.
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1999๋…„ ์ด๋ž˜ ์ž์‚ด๋ฅ ์ด 30% ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:33
For teen suicides over the last several years,
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10๋Œ€๋“ค์˜ ์ž์‚ด๋ฅ ์€ ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„๊ฐ„,
03:35
the suicide rate has risen by 70 percent.
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70%๊นŒ์ง€ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:39
Forty-five thousand Americans kill themselves every year;
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๋งค๋…„ 4๋งŒ 5์ฒœ ๋ช…์˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์ด ์ž์‚ด์„ ํ•˜๊ณ ,
03:41
72,000 die from opioid addictions;
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์˜คํ”ผ์˜ค์ด๋“œ ์ค‘๋…์œผ๋กœ 7๋งŒ 2์ฒœ ๋ช…์ด ์ฃฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:44
life expectancy is falling, not rising.
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๊ธฐ๋Œ€์ˆ˜๋ช…์€ ์˜ค๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:48
So what I mean to tell you, I flew out here to say
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ง์”€์€
03:51
that we have an economic crisis, we have environmental crisis,
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๊ฒฝ์ œ ์œ„๊ธฐ์™€ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ ๋ฌธ์ œ,
03:54
we have a political crisis.
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์ •์น˜์  ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
03:55
We also have a social and relational crisis;
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์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์œ„๊ธฐ์™€ ๊ด€๊ณ„์˜ ์œ„๊ธฐ ๋˜ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:58
we're in the valley.
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๊ณจ์งœ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ‡ํ˜€์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:59
We're fragmented from each other,
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์„œ๋กœ ๋‹จ์ ˆ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๊ณ ,
04:01
we've got cascades of lies coming out of Washington ...
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์›Œ์‹ฑํ„ด์—์„œ ํ˜๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์˜ ํ™์ˆ˜์— ๋น ์ ธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:03
We're in the valley.
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๊ณจ์งœ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ‡ํ˜€์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:05
And so I've spent the last five years --
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์ง€๋‚œ 5๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:07
how do you get out of a valley?
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๊ณจ์งœ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ?
04:09
The Greeks used to say, "You suffer your way to wisdom."
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์Šค ์†๋‹ด์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์ง€ํ˜œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ธธ์€ ๊ณ ํ†ต์Šค๋Ÿฝ๋‹ค."
04:13
And from that dark period where I started, I've had a few realizations.
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์ „ ์•”์šธํ•œ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฒช์–ด์˜ค๋ฉฐ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์Œ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:17
The first is, freedom sucks.
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ์ž์œ ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:20
Economic freedom is OK, political freedom is great,
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๊ฒฝ์ œ์  ์ž์œ ๋Š” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์ •์น˜์  ์ž์œ ๋„ ์ข‹์ฃ .
04:23
social freedom sucks.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ž์œ ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋ณ„๋กœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:26
The unrooted man is the adrift man.
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์ •์ฐฉํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชป ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ž‘์ž๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:28
The unrooted man is the unremembered man, because he's uncommitted to things.
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์–ด๋””์—๋„ ํ—Œ์‹ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:32
Freedom is not an ocean you want to swim in,
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์ž์œ ๋Š” ํ—ค์—„์น˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ,
04:36
it's a river you want to get across,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ •์ฐฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฑด๋„ˆ์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:38
so you can commit and plant yourself on the other side.
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๊ฐ• ๊ฑด๋„ˆํŽธ์— ๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž๋ฆฌ์žก๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ฃ .
04:41
The second thing I learned
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๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ์–ป์€ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์Œ์€
04:42
is that when you have one of those bad moments in life,
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์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋ฉฐ ํž˜๋“  ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ๋งž์ดํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
04:45
you can either be broken,
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ถ€์„œ์ง€๊ธฐ๋งŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
04:46
or you can be broken open.
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๋ถ€์„œ์ง€๋ฉด์„œ ์—ด๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:48
And we all know people who are broken.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ถ€์„œ์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ณธ ์  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:50
They've endured some pain or grief, they get smaller,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ณ ํ†ต๊ณผ ์Šฌํ””์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ๋” ์ž‘์•„์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:53
they get angrier, resentful, they lash out.
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๋” ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๊ณ , ๋ถ„๊ฐœํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๋งน๋ ฌํžˆ ๋น„๋‚œํ•˜์ฃ .
04:55
As the saying is,
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์†๋‹ด์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:56
"Pain that is not transformed gets transmitted."
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"๋ฐ”๋€Œ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ณ ํ†ต์€ ๋‚จ์—๊ฒŒ ์ „๋‹ฌ๋œ๋‹ค."
04:59
But other people are broken open.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ถ€์„œ์ง€๋ฉด์„œ ๋™์‹œ์— ์—ด๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:03
Suffering's great power is that it's an interruption of life.
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๊ณ ํ†ต์˜ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ํž˜์€ ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐœ์ž…์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:06
It reminds you you're not the person you thought you were.
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์ž์‹ ์ด ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ธฐ์‹œ์ผœ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:09
The theologian Paul Tillich said
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์‹ ํ•™์ž ํด ํ‹ธ๋ฆฌํžˆ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:10
what suffering does is it carves through what you thought was the floor
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๊ณ ํ†ต์„ ๊ฒช๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด ๋ณด์˜€๋˜
05:14
of the basement of your soul,
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์˜ํ˜ผ์˜ ์ง€ํ•˜ ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ์กฐ์ฐจ๋„ ๋šซ๋ ค
05:15
and it carves through that, revealing a cavity below,
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๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ์ด ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜๊ณ ,
05:17
and it carves through that, revealing a cavity below.
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๋˜ ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ์ด ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
05:20
You realize there are depths of yourself you never anticipated,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ „ํ˜€ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊นŠ์€ ๊ตฌ์„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:23
and only spiritual and relational food will fill those depths.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค์ง ์˜์ , ๊ด€๊ณ„์  ๋งŒ์กฑ๋งŒ์ด ๊ทธ ๊นŠ์ด๋ฅผ ์ฑ„์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:28
And when you get down there, you get out of the head of the ego
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๊ณจ์งœ๊ธฐ์— ๋น ์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ž์•„์˜ ๊ฐ์˜ฅ์—์„œ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜์™€
05:31
and you get into the heart,
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์‹ฌ์žฅ ์†์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:32
the desiring heart.
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๊ฐˆ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‹ฌ์žฅ์ด์ฃ .
05:34
The idea that what we really yearn for is longing and love for another,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง„์ •์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐˆ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ด๋ง๊ณผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:38
the kind of thing that Louis de Berniรจres described in his book,
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๋ฃจ์ด ๋“œ ๋ฒ ๋ฅด๋‹ˆ์—๋ฅด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ์˜ ์ฑ… "์ฝ”๋ ๋ฆฌ ๋Œ€์œ„์˜ ๋งŒ๋Œ๋ฆฐ"์—์„œ
05:41
"Captain Corelli's Mandolin."
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๋ฌ˜์‚ฌํ•œ ๊ฐ์ •๋“ค์ด์ฃ .
05:43
He had an old guy talking to his daughter
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ํ•œ ๋‚˜์ด ๋“  ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋”ธ์—๊ฒŒ
05:45
about his relationship with his late wife,
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์ž์‹ ๊ณผ ์ฃฝ์€ ์•„๋‚ด์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:47
and the old guy says,
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๋‚˜์ด ๋“  ๋‚จ์ž๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:48
"Love itself is whatever is leftover when being in love is burned away.
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"์‚ฌ๋ž‘์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์— ๋น ์ ธ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋“ค์ด ๋ถˆํƒ€ ์—†์–ด์งˆ ๋•Œ ๋‚จ๋Š” ์žฟ๋”๋ฏธ์•ผ.
05:52
And this is both an art and a fortunate accident.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜ˆ์ˆ ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์šด ์ข‹์€ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€.
05:55
Your mother and I had it.
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๋„ค ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ์™€ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด.
05:57
We had roots that grew towards each other underground,
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์ง€ํ•˜์—์„œ ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ํ–ฅํ•ด ์ž๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
05:59
and when all the pretty blossoms had fallen from our branches,
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์˜ˆ์œ ๊ฝƒ์žŽ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฐ€์ง€์—์„œ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋–จ์–ด์กŒ์„ ๋•Œ
06:02
we discovered that we are one tree and not two."
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‘ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์ง€."
06:05
That's what the heart yearns for.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์‹ฌ์žฅ์ด ๊ฐˆ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:07
The second thing you discover is your soul.
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๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์˜ํ˜ผ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:10
Now, I don't ask you to believe in God or not believe in God,
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ์‹ ์„ ๋ฏฟ์œผ๋ผ๊ณ , ํ˜น์€ ๋ฏฟ์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ•์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:13
but I do ask you to believe that there's a piece of you
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์˜ ๋‚ด๋ฉด ์•ˆ์—
06:16
that has no shape, size, color or weight,
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๋ชจ์–‘, ํฌ๊ธฐ, ์ƒ‰์ƒ, ๋ฌด๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ
06:18
but that gives you infinite dignity and value.
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๋ฌดํ•œํ•œ ์กด์—„์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ€์น˜๋ฅผ ๋ถ€์—ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ณธ์งˆ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฏฟ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:21
Rich and successful people don't have more of this
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๋ถ€์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋œ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค
06:23
than less successful people.
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์ด ๋ณธ์งˆ์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:25
Slavery is wrong because it's an obliteration of another soul.
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๋…ธ์˜ˆ์ œ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜ํ˜ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ง์‚ด์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:29
Rape is not just an attack on a bunch of physical molecules,
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๊ฐ•๊ฐ„์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์  ๋ถ„์ž๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
06:32
it's an attempt to insult another person's soul.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์˜ํ˜ผ์„ ๋ชจ์š•ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์‹œ๋„์ด์ฃ .
06:34
And what the soul does is it yearns for righteousness.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ํ˜ผ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์€ ์˜ฎ์Œ์„ ๊ฐˆ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:38
The heart yearns for fusion with another, the soul yearns for righteousness.
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์‹ฌ์žฅ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ์˜ ์œตํ•ฉ์„ ๊ฐˆ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜ํ˜ผ์€ ์˜ณ์Œ์„ ๊ฐˆ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:41
And that led to my third realization, which I borrowed from Einstein:
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Š” ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์Œ์„ ์ด๋Œ์–ด ๋‚ด์—ˆ์ฃ , ์•„์ธ์Šˆํƒ€์ธ์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธธ,
06:45
"The problem you have is not going to be solved
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"๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งŒ๋“  ์˜์‹์˜ ์ฐจ์›์—์„œ๋Š”
06:48
at the level of consciousness on which you created it.
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์ ˆ๋Œ€ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
06:50
You have to expand to a different level of consciousness."
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฐจ์›์˜ ์˜์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์žฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
06:54
So what do you do?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
06:56
Well, the first thing you do is you throw yourself on your friends
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์€, ์นœ๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋งก๊ฒจ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
06:59
and you have deeper conversations that you ever had before.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„์–ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
07:02
But the second thing you do,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ํ•  ์ผ์€
07:03
you have to go out alone into the wilderness.
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ํ™€๋กœ ํ™ฉ๋ฌด์ง€๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:05
You go out into that place where there's nobody there to perform,
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์žฅ์†Œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”.
07:08
and the ego has nothing to do, and it crumbles,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ž์•„๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—†์–ด ๋ฐ”์Šค๋Ÿฌ์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:11
and only then are you capable of being loved.
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๊ทธ๋•Œ์„œ์•ผ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:13
I have a friend who said that when her daughter was born,
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์ €์—๊ฒ ํ•œ ๋ช…์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋”ธ์ด ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ
07:17
she realized that she loved her more than evolution required.
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์ง„ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์š”๊ตฌ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋”ธ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜๋‹ค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:21
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
07:22
And I've always loved that.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „ ๊ทธ ๋ง์„ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:23
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
07:24
Because it talks about the peace that's at the deep of ourself,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‚ด๋ฉด ๊นŠ์€ ๊ณณ์˜ ํ‰ํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
07:27
our inexplicable care for one another.
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์„œ๋กœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด์œ  ์—†๋Š” ๋ณด์‚ดํ•Œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ฃ .
07:30
And when you touch that spot, you're ready to be rescued.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ง€์ ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋œ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:33
The hard thing about when you're in the valley
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๊ณจ์งœ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ํž˜๋“  ๊ฒƒ์€
07:37
is that you can't climb out;
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์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:38
somebody has to reach in and pull you out.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์™€์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๊ตฌํ•ด์ค˜์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:41
It happened to me.
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๊ทธ ์ผ์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”.
07:42
I got, luckily, invited over to a house by a couple named Kathy and David,
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์šด์ด ์ข‹๊ฒŒ๋„, ์บ์‹œ์™€ ๋ฐ์ด๋น— ์ปคํ”Œ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ์˜ค๋ผ๋Š” ์ดˆ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ณ 
07:46
and they were --
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒ
07:48
They had a kid in the DC public school, his name's Santi.
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DC์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณต๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋Š” ์‚ฐํ‹ฐ๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์˜ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:50
Santi had a friend who needed a place to stay
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์‚ฐํ‹ฐ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋จธ๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:53
because his mom had some health issues.
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๊ทธ ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ๋ณ‘์„ ์•“๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:54
And then that kid had a friend and that kid had a friend.
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๊ทธ ์นœ๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:57
When I went to their house six years ago,
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6๋…„ ์ „ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ง‘์— ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ
07:59
I walk in the door, there's like 25 around the kitchen table,
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๋„์ฐฉํ•˜์ž๋งˆ์ž ๋ถ€์—Œ ์‹ํƒ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— 25๋ช…์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
08:02
a whole bunch sleeping downstairs in the basement.
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์ง€ํ•˜์‹ค์—์„œ๋„ ์ž๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:04
I reach out to introduce myself to a kid,
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์•„์ด์—๊ฒŒ ์ €๋ฅผ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:07
and he says, "We don't really shake hands here.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฒŒ "์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ๋Š” ์•…์ˆ˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑด ์•ˆํ•ด์š”.
08:10
We just hug here."
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์•ˆ์•„์š”." ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:12
And I'm not the huggiest guy on the face of the earth,
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์ €๋Š” ํฌ์˜น์„ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
08:15
but I've been going back to that home every Thursday night when I'm in town,
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๊ทธ ์ง‘์— ๋ชฉ์š”์ผ ๋ฐค๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ฐพ์•„๊ฐ€
08:18
and just hugging all those kids.
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์•ˆ์•„์ฃผ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:20
They demand intimacy.
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๊ทธ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ์นœ๋ฐ€ํ•จ์„ ์›ํ•ด์š”.
08:22
They demand that you behave in a way where you're showing all the way up.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:26
And they teach you a new way to live,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ์ƒˆ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:28
which is the cure for all the ills of our culture
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌํšŒ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ณ‘ํ๋ฅผ ์น˜์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:30
which is a way of direct -- really putting relationship first,
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๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์šฐ์„ ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด์ฃ .
08:33
not just as a word, but as a reality.
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๋ง๋กœ์„œ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ํ˜„์‹ค์—์„œ๋„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
08:37
And the beautiful thing is, these communities are everywhere.
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:41
I started something at the Aspen Institute called "Weave: The Social Fabric."
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์ €๋Š” ์•„์ŠคํŽœ ์‚ฌ์—์„œ "์‚ฌํšŒ์˜ ๊ฐ€๋‹ฅ์„ ๊ฟฐ์ž"๋ผ๋Š” ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:45
This is our logo here.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋กœ๊ณ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:46
And we plop into a place and we find weavers anywhere, everywhere.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์žฅ์†Œ์—์„œ ๊ฟฐ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:50
We find people like Asiaha Butler, who grew up in --
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์•„์‹œ์•„ํ•˜ ๋ฒ„ํ‹€๋Ÿฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
08:54
who lived in Chicago, in Englewood, in a tough neighborhood.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์‹œ์นด๊ณ ์˜ ์ž‰๊ธ€์šฐ๋“œ๋ผ๋Š” ํ—˜์•…ํ•œ ๋™๋„ค์—์„œ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:56
And she was about to move because it was so dangerous,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ณณ์ด ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์„œ ์ด์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋˜ ์ฐธ์ด์ฃ .
09:00
and she looked across the street and she saw two little girls
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ๋ณด๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ๋‘ ๋ช…์˜ ์†Œ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ดค์–ด์š”.
09:03
playing in an empty lot with broken bottles,
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๊ทธ ์†Œ๋…€๋“ค์€ ๋ถ€์„œ์ง„ ๋ณ‘๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ๊ณตํ„ฐ์—์„œ ๋†€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:05
and she turned to her husband and she said, "We're not leaving.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚จํŽธ์—๊ฒŒ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๋– ๋‚˜์ง€ ๋ง์ž.
09:08
We're not going to be just another family that abandon that."
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์ด ๊ณณ์„ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋˜์ง€ ๋ง์ž."
09:11
And she Googled "volunteer in Englewood," and now she runs R.A.G.E.,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ž‰๊ธ€์šฐ๋“œ ์ž์› ๋ด‰์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ R.A.G.E.๋ฅผ ์šด์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:14
the big community organization there.
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ํฐ ์ง€์—ญ์‚ฌํšŒ ๋‹จ์ฒด์ด์ง€์š”.
09:16
Some of these people have had tough valleys.
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๊ฟฐ๋Š” ์ž๋“ค ์ค‘ ๋ช‡ ๋ช…์€ ํ—˜ํ•œ ๊ณจ์งœ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ‡ํ˜€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:19
I met a woman named Sarah in Ohio who came home from an antiquing trip
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์˜คํ•˜์ด์˜ค์—์„œ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ์‚ฌ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ณจ๋™ํ’ˆ ์—ฌํ–‰์—์„œ ๋ง‰ ๋Œ์•„์™”์„ ๋•Œ
09:23
and found that her husband had killed himself and their two kids.
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๋‚จํŽธ์ด ์ž๋…€ ๋‘˜์„ ์‚ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž์‚ดํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:27
She now runs a free pharmacy, she volunteers in the community,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฌด์ƒ ์•ฝ๊ตญ์„ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง€์—ญ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ ๋ด‰์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:31
she helps women cope with violence, she teaches.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ํญ๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋ฉฐ ๋•๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:34
She told me, "I grew from this experience because I was angry.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ . "์ €๋Š” ๋ถ„๋…ธ๋ฅผ ๋Š๊ผˆ๊ธฐ์— ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:37
I was going to fight back against what he tried to do to me
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋ผ์น˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋˜ ํญ๋ ฅ์— ๋งž์„œ ์‹ธ์šฐ๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
09:40
by making a difference in the world.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ฆ์œผ๋กœ์จ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
09:41
See, he didn't kill me.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ ˆ ์ฃฝ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ž–์•„์š”.
09:43
My response to him is,
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๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•  ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
09:45
'Whatever you meant to do to me, screw you, you're not going to do it.'"
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'๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ง“์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์—ˆ๋“ , ์—ฟ์ด๋‚˜ ๋จน์–ด, ๋„Œ ๋ชปํ•ด.'"
09:50
These weavers are not living an individualistic life,
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๊ฟฐ๋Š” ์ž๋“ค์€ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ฃผ์˜์ ์ธ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
09:53
they're living a relationist life, they have a different set of values.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ด€๊ณ„์ฃผ์˜์ ์ธ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ด€์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:56
They have moral motivations.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋„๋•์ ์ธ ๋™๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€์š”.
09:58
They have vocational certitude, they have planted themselves down.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ™•์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:01
I met a guy in Youngstown, Ohio,
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์ €๋Š” ์˜คํ•˜์ด์˜ค ์ฃผ์˜ ์˜์Šคํƒ€์šด์— ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ๋‚จ์ž๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:03
who just held up a sign in the town square,
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๊ทธ ๋‚จ์ž๋Š” ๋งˆ์„ ๊ด‘์žฅ์—์„œ ์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:05
"Defend Youngstown."
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"์˜์Šคํƒ€์šด์„ ์ง€์ผœ๋ผ."
10:06
They have radical mutuality,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ธ‰์ง„์ ์ธ ์ƒํ˜ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฉฐ
10:08
and they are geniuses at relationship.
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๊ด€๊ณ„์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ฒœ์žฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:11
There's a woman named Mary Gordon
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๋ฉ”๋ฆฌ ๊ณ ๋“ ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:12
who runs something called Roots of Empathy.
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๊ทธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์€ "๊ณต๊ฐ์˜ ๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ฒด๋ฅผ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:15
And what they do is they take a bunch of kids, an eighth grade class,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ 8ํ•™๋…„ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ๋ ค๋‹ค๊ฐ€
10:18
they put a mom and an infant,
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ํ•œ ์—„๋งˆ์™€ ์•„๊ธฐ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:20
and then the students have to guess what the infant is thinking,
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ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์€ ์•„๊ธฐ๋“ค์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ถ”์ธกํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:23
to teach empathy.
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๊ณต๊ฐ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ด์ง€์š”.
10:24
There was one kid in a class who was bigger than the rest
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๊ต์‹ค์—๋Š” ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ์•„์ด๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ํฐ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๋ช… ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:27
because he'd been held back, been through the foster care system,
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์–‘์œก์‹œ์„ค์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ณดํ˜ธ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์œ ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:31
seen his mom get killed.
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๊ทธ์˜ ์—„๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์‚ดํ•ด๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ณธ ์•„์ด์—์š”.
10:32
And he wanted to hold the baby.
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๊ทธ ์•„์ด๋Š” ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ์•„๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ–ˆ์ฃ .
10:34
And the mom was nervous because he looked big and scary.
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์—„๋งˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ํฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์„œ์›Œ ๋ณด์—ฌ ๊ธด์žฅํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
10:37
But she let this kid, Darren, hold the baby.
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๋ฐ๋Ÿฐ์—๊ฒŒ ์ž๊ธฐ ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ๋„๋ก ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:39
He held it, and he was great with it.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ์•„๋ณธ ๋’ค ์•„์ฃผ ๊ธฐ๋ปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:43
He gave the baby back and started asking questions about parenthood.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ ค์ฃผ๊ณ  ์œก์•„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:47
And his final question was,
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๊ทธ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€
10:48
"If nobody has ever loved you, do you think you can be a good father?"
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"์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋”๋ผ๋„ ์ข‹์€ ์•„๋น ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?"
10:52
And so what Roots of Empathy does
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"๊ณต๊ฐ์˜ ๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ" ๋‹จ์ฒด์—์„œ๋Š”
10:54
is they reach down and they grab people out of the valley.
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๊ณจ์งœ๊ธฐ ์•ˆ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๊บผ๋‚ด๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:57
And that's what weavers are doing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฟฐ๋Š” ์ž๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:01
Some of them switch jobs.
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘์˜ ๋ช‡๋ช‡์€ ๋„์ค‘์— ์ง์—…์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ 
11:03
Some of them stay in their same jobs.
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๋ช‡๋ช‡์€ ๊ณ„์† ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์— ์ข…์‚ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
11:06
But one thing is, they have an intensity to them.
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๊ณตํ†ต์ ์€ ์ž๊ธฐ ์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ•จ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
11:09
I read this --
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์ €๋Š” ์ด ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:11
E.O. Wilson wrote a great book called "Naturalist," about his childhood.
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E.O. ์œŒ์Šจ์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์“ด "์ž์—ฐ์ฃผ์˜์ž"์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:17
When he was seven, his parents were divorcing.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ 7์‚ด์ด์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ์˜ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์€ ์ดํ˜ผํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:21
And they sent him to Paradise Beach in North Florida.
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์€ ์œŒ์Šจ์„ ๋ถ์ชฝ ํ”Œ๋กœ๋ฆฌ๋‹ค์˜ ํŒŒ๋ผ๋‹ค์ด์Šค ๋น„์น˜๋กœ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์ฃ .
11:24
And he'd never seen the ocean before.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ํ•ด๋ณ€์„ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ 
11:26
And he'd never seen a jellyfish before.
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ํ•ดํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๋„ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:29
He wrote, "The creature was astonishing. It existed beyond my imagination."
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"๊ทธ ์ƒ๋ช…์ฒด๋Š” ๋†€๋ผ์› ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ์ƒ์ƒ์„ ๋„˜์–ด์„  ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค."
11:33
He was sitting on the dock one day
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์–ด๋Š ๋‚ , ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋‘ฃ๊ฐ€์— ์•‰์•„
11:35
and he saw a stingray float beneath his feet.
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๊ฐ€์˜ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋ฐœ ์•„๋ž˜์— ๋–  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์•˜์–ด์š”.
11:38
And at that moment, a naturalist was born in the awe and wonder.
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๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„, ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ๊ณผ ๊ฒฝ์™ธ์‹ฌ์— ์ฐฌ ์ž์—ฐ์ฃผ์˜์ž๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ์ฃ .
11:42
And he makes this observation:
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๊ด€์ฐฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค:
11:44
that when you're a child,
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"์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š”
11:45
you see animals at twice the size as you do as an adult.
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์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ์˜ ํฌ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋™๋ฌผ์„ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:50
And that has always impressed me,
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ๋ช… ๊นŠ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™”์–ด์š”.
11:51
because what we want as kids is that moral intensity,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด๋กœ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ ๋„๋•์ ์ธ ๊ฐ•๋ ฌํ•จ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
11:56
to be totally given ourselves over to something
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์ „์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋ชฐ๋‘ํ•˜์—ฌ
11:59
and to find that level of vocation.
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์ฒœ์ง์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
12:02
And when you are around these weavers,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฟฐ๋Š” ์ž๋“ค ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ
12:04
they see other people at twice the size as normal people.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ์˜ ํฌ๊ธฐ๋กœ ์ธ์‹ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:07
They see deeper into them.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋‚ด๋ฉด์„ ๋” ๊นŠ์ด ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ฃ .
12:09
And what they see is joy.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:13
On the first mountain of our life, when we're shooting for our career,
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์ธ์ƒ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์‚ฐ์— ์ง๋ฉดํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง์—…์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ์• ์“ธ ๋•Œ
12:16
we shoot for happiness.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ–‰๋ณต์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ์• ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:19
And happiness is good, it's the expansion of self.
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ํ–‰๋ณต์€ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์˜ ํ™•์žฅ์ด์ฃ .
12:22
You win a victory,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ด๊ธฐ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
12:24
you get a promotion, your team wins the Super Bowl,
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์Šน์ง„ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ง€์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ํŒ€์ด ์Šˆํผ๋ณผ์—์„œ ์šฐ์Šนํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
12:28
you're happy.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ํ–‰๋ณต์„ ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:30
Joy is not the expansion of self, it's the dissolving of self.
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์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์ฒดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”.
12:34
It's the moment when the skin barrier disappears between a mother and her child,
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์—„๋งˆ์™€ ์•„์ด ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ํ”ผ๋ถ€์žฅ๋ฒฝ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:39
it's the moment when a naturalist feels just free in nature.
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์ž์—ฐ์ฃผ์˜์ž๊ฐ€ ์ž์—ฐ์—์„œ ์ž์œ ๋กœ์›€์„ ๋Š๋‚€ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด๋ฉฐ
12:43
It's the moment where you're so lost in your work or a cause,
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์ผ์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ชฐ๋‘ํ•œ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€
12:46
you have totally self-forgotten.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ณธ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ์ „๋ถ€ ์žŠ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:48
And joy is a better thing to aim for than happiness.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์€ ํ–‰๋ณต๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ถ”๊ตฌํ•  ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:51
I collect passages of joy, of people when they lose it.
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์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์„ ์žƒ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์˜ ์ฆ์–ธ์„ ์ˆ˜์ง‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:54
One of my favorite is from Zadie Smith.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์žฌ๋”” ์Šค๋ฏธ์Šค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์™”์ฃ .
12:56
In 1999, she was in a London nightclub,
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1999๋…„์— ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋Ÿฐ๋˜์˜ ๋‚˜์ดํŠธ ํด๋Ÿฝ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:00
looking for her friends, wondering where her handbag was.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํ•ธ๋“œ๋ฐฑ์ด ์–ด๋”” ๊ฐ”๋Š”์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
13:03
And suddenly, as she writes,
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์“ฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:05
"... a rail-thin man with enormous eyes reached across a sea of bodies
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"์ปค๋‹ค๋ž€ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์•„์ฃผ ๋งˆ๋ฅธ ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์ธํŒŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฑด๋„ˆ
13:08
for my hand.
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๋‚ด ์†์„ ์žก์•˜๋‹ค.
13:10
He kept asking me the same thing over and over, 'Are you feeling it?'
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑธ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ๋‹ค. '๋„ˆ๋„ ๋Š๊ปด์ ธ?'
13:13
My ridiculous heels were killing me, I was terrified that I might die,
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๋‚ด ์šฐ์Šค๊ฝ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ํž์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์•„ํŒ ๊ณ ,
์ •๋ง ์ฃฝ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋‘๋ ค์›€์— ๋–จ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
13:17
yet I felt simultaneously overwhelmed with delight
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚œ ๋™์‹œ์—
13:20
that 'Can I Kick It?' should happen to be playing
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'Can I Kick It?'์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ž˜๊ฐ€
13:22
on this precise moment in the history of the world
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ํ•˜ํ•„ ์ด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ํ˜๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜์™”๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์—
13:24
on the sound system,
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ํ™˜ํฌ์— ์‚ฌ๋กœ์žกํ˜”๋‹ค.
13:26
and it was now morphing into 'Teen Spirit.'
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๋…ธ๋ž˜๋Š” ์ด์ œ '10๋Œ€์˜ ์ •์‹ '์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
13:28
I took the man's hand, the top of my head blew away,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚จ์ž์˜ ์†์„ ์žก์•˜๊ณ  ์ •์‹ ์„ ๋‚ ๋ ค ๋ฒ„๋ ธ๋‹ค.
13:31
we danced, we danced, we gave ourselves up to joy."
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ถค์„ ์ท„๊ณ , ๋˜ ์ท„๊ณ , ๊ธฐ์จ์— ๊ตด๋ณตํ–ˆ๋‹ค."
13:35
And so what I'm trying to describe is two different life mindsets.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:39
The first mountain mindset, which is about individual happiness and career success.
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๋งˆ์Œ๊ฐ€์ง์€ ๊ฐœ์ธ์˜ ํ–‰๋ณต๊ณผ ์ง์—…์  ์„ฑ๊ณต์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:44
And it's a good mindset, I have nothing against it.
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์ข‹์€ ๋งˆ์Œ๊ฐ€์ง์ด์ฃ . ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:47
But we're in a national valley,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ๊ณจ์งœ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:49
because we don't have the other mindset to balance it.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹๊ณผ์˜ ๊ท ํ˜•์ด ์ ์  ๊นจ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:52
We no longer feel good about ourselves as a people,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:54
we've lost our defining faith in our future,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‹ ๋…์„ ์žƒ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:57
we don't see each other deeply, we don't treat each other as well.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๊นŠ์ด ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ž˜ ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:01
And we need a lot of changes.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:03
We need an economic change and environmental change.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒฝ์ œ์ , ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์  ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:06
But we also need a cultural and relational revolution.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋ฌธํ™”์ ์ด๊ณ  ๊ด€๊ณ„์ ์ธ ํ˜๋ช… ๋˜ํ•œ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:09
We need to name the language of a recovered society.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํšŒ๋ณต๋œ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋ฅผ ๋œปํ•˜๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:14
And to me, the weavers have found that language.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ฟฐ๋Š” ์ž๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ฐพ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:17
My theory of social change is that society changes
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์ €์˜ ์‚ฌํšŒ ๋ณ€ํ˜ ์ด๋ก ์€ ์ž‘์€ ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
14:20
when a small group of people find a better way to live,
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์‚ถ์˜ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ , ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฅผ ๋”ฐ๋ž์„ ๋•Œ
14:23
and the rest of us copy them.
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์‚ฌํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:25
And these weavers have found a better way to live.
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๊ฟฐ๋Š” ์ž๋“ค์€ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‚ถ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋‚ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:28
And you don't have to theorize about it.
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๊ทธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐ๋งŒ ํ•  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:30
They are out there as community builders all around the country.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ๊ณต๋™์ฒด๋ฅผ ํ˜•์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:34
We just have to shift our lives a little,
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์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ๋งŒ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:36
so we can say, "I'm a weaver, we're a weaver."
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"๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฟฐ๋Š” ์ž, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฟฐ๋Š” ์ž๋“ค" ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
14:39
And if we do that,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
14:42
the hole inside ourselves gets filled,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•ˆ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ตฌ๋ฉ๋“ค์ด ์ฑ„์›Œ์งˆ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:44
but more important, the social unity gets repaired.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌํšŒ ๊ณต๋™์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์žกํžŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:47
Thank you very much.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:48
(Applause)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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