How you can use impostor syndrome to your benefit | Mike Cannon-Brookes

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2019-12-21 ใƒป TED


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How you can use impostor syndrome to your benefit | Mike Cannon-Brookes

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Sung Jun Moon ๊ฒ€ํ† : Yunjung Nam
00:13
So I've experienced a lot of success in my life.
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์ €๋Š” ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:17
Over a decade ago,
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10๋…„ ์ „,
00:19
I started a business straight out of uni with my mate, Scott.
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๋Œ€ํ•™์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์Šค์ฝง๊ณผ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
00:24
Now, having no prior business experience
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ์—… ๊ฒฝํ—˜๋„, ๊ฑฐ์ฐฝํ•œ ๊ณ„ํš๋„ ์—†์ด์š”.
00:26
and not really any grand plan --
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00:29
in fact, our goals when we started were not to have to get a real job
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ง„์งœ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ–์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์˜€๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
00:32
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
00:33
and to not have to wear a suit to work every day.
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๋งค์ผ ์ •์žฅ์„ ์ž…์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋˜๊ณ ์š”.
00:36
Check and check.
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๋๊ณ , ๋๋„ค์š”.
00:37
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
00:39
Today, we have thousands of amazing employees,
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์ด์ œ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒ ์ˆ˜์ฒœ๋ช…์˜ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ง์›๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ณ ,
00:43
and millions of people use our software around the planet.
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์ˆ˜๋งŒ๋ช…์ด ์ง€๊ตฌ ๊ณณ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:47
And technically, even outside the planet,
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์—„๋ฐ€ํžˆ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ์ง€๊ตฌ ๋ฐ–์—์„œ๋„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ฃ .
00:49
if you count those that are currently on their way to Mars.
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ํ™”์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ ํ–ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํƒ์‚ฌ์„ ๋„ ํฌํ•จํ•˜๋ฉด์š”.
00:52
So you'd think that I know what I'm doing every day
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ถœ๊ทผํ•  ๋•Œ ๋งค์ผ ์—…๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์ž˜ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
00:55
when I go to work.
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00:57
Well, let me let you in on something:
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆด๊ฒŒ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
00:59
most days, I still feel like I often don't know what I'm doing.
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋งค์ผ ์ €๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ญ˜ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘์ธ์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:04
I've felt that way for 15 years,
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15๋…„์„ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์™”์ฃ .
01:07
and I've since learned that feeling is called "impostor syndrome."
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ "๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์ฆํ›„๊ตฐ"์ด๋ผ ๋ถ€๋ฅธ๋‹ค๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
01:13
Have you ever felt out of your depth,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ์‹  ์  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
01:15
like a fraud,
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”.
01:17
and just kind of guessed/bullshitted your way through the situation --
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์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์ถ”์ธกํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ—›์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
01:21
(Laughter)
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01:22
petrified that anytime,
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ผ๋กœ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ
01:24
someone was going to call you on it?
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์ „ํ™”ํ• ๊นŒ ๋‘๋ ค์šฐ์‹  ์  ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
01:27
Well, I can think of many examples where I felt like this.
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์ €๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ๋˜ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ก€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:31
Interviewing our first HR manager,
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์ €ํฌ ์ฒซ ์ธ์‚ฌ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž์™€ ๋ฉด์ ‘์„ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ์ธ๋ฐ,
01:33
having never worked in a company that had an HR department --
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์ธ์‚ฌ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ธฐ์—
01:36
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
01:38
terrified as I walked into the interview,
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"๋ฌด์Šจ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•ด์•ผํ•˜์ง€?" ๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•˜๋‹ˆ
01:41
thinking, "What am I going to ask this person?"
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๋ฉด์ ‘์žฅ์— ๊ฐ€๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ฒ์ด ๋‚˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
01:43
Or attending board meetings in a T-shirt surrounded by suits,
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๋˜ ํ‹ฐ์…”์ธ ๋ฅผ ์ž…๊ณ  ์–‘๋ณต์„ ์ž…์€ ์ž„์›๋“ค๊ณผ ํšŒ์˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ,
01:47
and acronyms are flying around,
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์ค„์ž„๋ง์ด ๋‚œ๋ฌดํ•˜๋‹ˆ
01:49
feeling like a five-year-old
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์ œ๊ฐ€ 5์‚ด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์ ธ
01:50
as I surreptitiously write them down in my notebook,
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์•ฝ์–ด๋“ค์„ ๊ณต์ฑ…์— ๋ชฐ๋ž˜ ์ ์–ด
01:53
so I can look them up on Wikipedia when I get home later.
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์ง‘์— ์™€์„œ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
01:56
(Laughter)
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01:57
Or, in the early days,
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์ดˆ์ฐฝ๊ธฐ์—๋Š”
01:58
when people would call up and ask for accounts payable,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ „ํ™”ํ•ด ์ง€๋ถˆ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๊ณ„์ขŒ๋ฅผ ์š”์ฒญํ•˜๋ฉด
02:01
I would freeze and think, "Wait, are they asking for money
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์–ผ์–ด๋ถ™์€ ์ฑ„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
"์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ˆ์„ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ค€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ?"
02:05
or giving it to us?"
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02:06
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
02:09
And I would cover the phone,
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์ „ ์ „ํ™”๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌ๊ณ ,
02:12
cover the mouthpiece of the phone,
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์†กํ™”๊ธฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ .
02:14
and say, "Scott, you're in accounts,"
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"์Šค์ฝง, ๋„ค๊ฐ€ ํšŒ๊ณ„ ๋‹ด๋‹น์ด์•ผ"๋ผ๋ฉฐ
02:16
and pass it across.
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๋„˜๊ฒจ๋ฒ„๋ ธ์ฃ .
02:17
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
02:18
We both did a lot of jobs back then.
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์ €ํฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ทธ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
02:21
So for me, impostor syndrome is a feeling of being well, well out of your depth,
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์–ด ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์ฆํ›„๊ตฐ์€ ๋ถ„์ˆ˜์— ๋งž์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹จ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด์—์š”.
02:26
yet already entrenched in the situation.
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์ด๋ฏธ ๊ทธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋†“์—ฌ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ๋„์š”.
02:29
Internally, you know you're not skilled enough, experienced enough
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๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋„, ๊ฒฝํ—˜๋„ ๋ถ€์กฑํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๊ณ 
02:32
or qualified enough to justify being there,
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๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ๊ธฐ์— ์ž๊ฒฉ์ด ๋ถ€์กฑํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
02:35
yet you are there,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ๊ณ 
02:37
and you have to figure a way out,
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๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ•ด์š”.
02:39
because you can't just get out.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
02:41
It's not a fear of failure,
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์ด๊ฑด ์‹คํŒจ๋ฅผ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
02:43
and it's not a fear of being unable to do it.
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๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ ์š”.
02:47
It's more a sensation of getting away with something,
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋„๋ง์น˜๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฐ๊ฐ์— ๊ฐ€๊น์ฃ .
02:50
a fear of being discovered,
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์–ธ์ œ๋“  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š”,
02:52
that at any time, someone is going to figure this out.
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๋ฐœ๊ฐ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ณตํฌ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ์š”.
02:55
And if they did figure it out,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์•Œ์•„์ฑˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
02:57
you'd honestly think, "Well, that's fair enough, actually."
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. "๋ญ, ์ด์ •๋„๋ฉด ๋์ง€."
03:00
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
03:01
One of my favorite writers, Neil Gaiman, put it so beautifully
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ž‘๊ฐ€ ๋‹ ๊ฒŒ์ด๋จผ์€
03:05
in a commencement address he gave at a university, called "Make Good Art."
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๋Œ€ํ•™๊ต ์กธ์—…์‹์—์„œ "๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ฒŒ ์‹ค์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋ผ"๋Š” ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:09
I want to make sure I get his quote correct.
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์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋ง์„ ์ธ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋„ค์š”.
03:12
"I was convinced that there would be a knock on the door,
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"๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‘๋“œ๋ฆด ๊ฑฐ๋ž€ ํ™•์‹ ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:16
and a man with a clipboard would be there to tell me that it was all over,
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ํด๋ฆฝ๋ณด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ฐพ์•„์™€ ๋‹ค ๋๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
03:20
that they'd caught up with me,
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์ €๋ฅผ ์ง€๊ธˆ๊ป ์ถ”์ ํ•ด ์™”์œผ๋ฉฐ,
03:22
and that I would now have to go and get a real job."
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์ด์ œ ์ง„์งœ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”."
03:26
Now, when there's a knock on my door,
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์ œ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‘๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด,
03:29
I still feel like some sort of dark-suited clipboard man is going to be there
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์ •์žฅ์„ ์ž…๊ณ  ํด๋ฆฝ ๋ณด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋‹ค ๋๋‹ค๋ฉฐ
03:33
to tell me that my time is kind of up.
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์ฐพ์•„์˜จ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
03:36
And being a crap cook,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณค ์• ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ”ผ์ž ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š”
03:37
I'm quite relieved when it's just someone with a pizza for the kids.
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ํ˜•ํŽธ์—†๋Š” ์š”๋ฆฌ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ผ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ์•ˆ์‹ฌํ• ํ…๋ฐ์š”.
03:40
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
03:42
But it's important to note that it's not all bad.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์˜ˆ ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฑธ ์•„๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ด์š”.
03:45
There's a lot of goodness, I think, in those feelings.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ์ •์—๋„ ์ข‹์€ ์ ์ด ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ๋งŽ์ฃ .
03:47
And this isn't some sort of motivational-poster type talk,
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์ด๊ฑด ๋™๊ธฐ๋ถ€์—ฌ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
03:53
a "Begin it now."
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"์ง€๊ธˆ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์„ธ์š”" ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:56
It's more of an introspection into my own experiences of impostor syndrome,
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๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์ฆํ›„๊ตฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜๊ณผ
04:00
and how I've tried to learn to harness them
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ด์šฉํ•˜๋ ค ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€,
04:03
and turn them into some sort of a force for good.
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์„ ํ•œ ํž˜์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊ฟจ๋Š”์ง€ ์„ฑ์ฐฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ฐ€๊น์ฃ .
04:05
And a great example of those experiences
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ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์„ค๋ฆฝ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ์—,
04:07
is in the early days of Atlassian's history.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ์ž˜ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:09
We were about four years old, and we had about 70 employees.
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๊ฐœ์—… ํ›„ 4๋…„์ด ํ˜๋ €๊ณ  ์ง์› ์ˆ˜๋„ 70๋ช…์ด ๋์–ด์š”.
04:14
And at the advice of our auditors --
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํšŒ๊ณ„ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์›์˜ ์กฐ์–ธ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ,
04:16
most good stories start with advice from an auditor --
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์ข‹์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์›์˜ ์กฐ์–ธ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
04:19
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
04:20
we entered the New South Wales Entrepreneur of the Year competition.
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๋‰ด์‚ฌ์šฐ์Šค์›จ์ผ์Šค ์˜ฌํ•ด์˜ ๊ธฐ์—…๊ฐ€ ์„ ๋ฐœ์— ์ฐธ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
04:24
Now, we were surprised when we won
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋†€๋ž์–ด์š”.
๋‰ด์‚ฌ์šฐ์Šค์›จ์ผ์Šค ์˜ฌํ•ด์˜ ๊ธฐ์—…๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์ƒ์‹์—์„œ
04:26
the New South Wales Entrepreneur of the Year
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04:28
in the young category for entrepreneurs under 40.
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8๊ฐœ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ ์ค‘์— 40์„ธ ์ดํ•˜ ๊ธฐ์—…๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ์ˆ˜์ƒํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
04:31
There were eight categories.
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04:32
And so surprised, in fact,
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๊ทธ ์ „์— ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ž๋“ค ๋ช…๋‹จ์„ ๋ดค๊ธฐ์—
04:34
having looked at the list of people we were up against,
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜์ƒํ–ˆ์„ ๋• ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋†€๋ผ์„œ
04:37
I didn't even turn up to the awards ceremony.
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๋‹จ์ƒ์—๋„ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:39
So Scott collected the gong by himself.
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ์Šค์ฝง ํ˜ผ์ž ์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ .
04:42
And then we traveled off to the national awards.
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๊ทธ ํ›„ ์ €ํฐ ์ „๊ตญ ๋Œ€ํšŒ์— ์ง„์ถœํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๊ณณ์—์„œ๋Š”
04:46
I thought I should probably turn up to those.
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๋‹จ์ƒ์— ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์•ˆ๋œ๋‹ค ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ .
04:48
So we rented some suits,
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ •์žฅ์„ ๋นŒ๋ ธ๊ณ 
04:50
I invited a girl that I had just met --
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์ „ ๊ทธ ์ „์— ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์„ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:52
we'll get to her in a second --
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์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ž ์‹œ ํ›„์— ํ•˜๊ณ ,
04:54
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
04:55
and off we went to the big black-tie gala.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณค ๊ฒฉ์‹์„ ์ฐจ๋ฆฐ ํ–‰์‚ฌ์— ๊ฐ”์ฃ .
04:58
Now, our surprise turned to shock
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์ „๊ตญ๋Œ€ํšŒ ์ฒซ๋‚  ์ Š์€ ๊ธฐ์—…๊ฐ€ ์ƒ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ
05:01
in the first award of the night, the young category,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์—์„œ ์ฐธ๊ฐ€ํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ž๋“ค์„ ์ œ์น˜๊ณ 
05:03
when we beat all of the other states
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์ Š์€ ํ˜ธ์ฃผ ๊ธฐ์—…๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์„ ๋•
05:05
and won the Australian Young Entrepreneur of the Year.
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๋†€๋ผ์›€์„ ๋„˜์–ด ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ .
05:07
When the shock had worn off,
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์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ด ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ๊ฐ€์‹œ์ž
05:09
we got a lot of champagne to the table and the party began,
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์ €ํฐ ์ƒดํŽ˜์ธ์„ ํ„ฐ๋œจ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
05:12
and the night was surely over.
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๊ทธ๋‚  ๋ฐค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐ”์ฃ .
05:13
We were having a royally great time.
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ํ™˜์ƒ์ ์ธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
05:15
Fast-forward to the last award of the night,
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์‹œ์ƒ์‹ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋‚ ๋กœ ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ
05:18
and our shock turned into everybody's shock
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„์•ผ์˜ ํ›„๋ณด๋“ค์„ ์ œ์น˜๊ณ 
05:20
when we won the Australian Entrepreneur of the Year
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ํ˜ธ์ฃผ ๊ธฐ์—…๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์„ ์ˆ˜์ƒํ•˜์ž
05:23
against all of the other categories.
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ฐ›๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
05:25
Now, so shocked was everybody else, in fact,
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์ •๋ง ๋‹ค๋“ค ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋†€๋ผ์„œ,
05:27
that the announcer, the CEO of Ernst and Young,
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์‚ฌํšŒ๋ฅผ ๋งก์€ ํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์˜์ž๋Š”
05:29
opened the envelope,
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๋ด‰ํˆฌ๋ฅผ ์—ด์ž๋งˆ์ž ํ•œ ๋ง์ด โ€œ์˜ค ์„ธ์ƒ์—." ์˜€์–ด์š”.
05:30
and the first words out of his mouth were, "Oh my God."
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05:33
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
05:34
And then he reset himself and announced that we had won.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ€๋‹ค๋“ฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์šฐ์Šน์„ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ–ˆ์ฃ .
05:37
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
05:38
So we knew we were in way too deep.
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์ €ํฐ ํฐ์ผ๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์ฃ .
05:41
And from there, the water got a lot deeper,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ผ์ด ๋” ์ปค์ง€๋”๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
05:43
because we jetted off to Monte Carlo
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์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์—…๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์„ ๋†“๊ณ 
05:45
to represent Australia in the World Entrepreneur of the Year
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ํ˜ธ์ฃผ ๋Œ€ํ‘œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ 40๊ฐœ๊ตญ ๋Œ€ํ‘œ์™€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
05:48
against 40 other different countries.
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๋ชฌํ…Œ์นด๋ฅผ๋กœ๋กœ ๋– ๋‚ฌ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
05:51
Now, in another rented suit, I was at one of the dinners
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๋‹ค์‹œ ์ •์žฅ์„ ๋นŒ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŒ์ฐฌ์— ์ฐธ์„ํ•ด
05:55
and sitting next to a lovely man called Belmiro de Azevedo,
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ํฌ๋ฅดํˆฌ๊ฐˆ ๋Œ€ํ‘œ์ด์ž ๋„ˆ๋ฌด๋‚˜ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋ถ„์ธ ๋ฒจ๋ฏธ๋กœ ๋ฐ ์•„์ œ๋ฒ ๋„ ์”จ ์˜†์— ์•‰์•˜์ฃ .
05:59
who was the winner from Portugal.
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06:01
Total champion.
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๋Œ€๋‹จํ•˜์‹  ๋ถ„์ด์—์š”.
06:02
At 65, he had been running his business for 40 years.
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65์„ธ์ธ ๊ทธ๋Š” 40๋…„๊ฐ„ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ์šด์˜ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
06:06
He had 30,000 employees.
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์ง์› 3๋งŒ๋ช…์„ ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
06:08
Don't forget, at the time, we had 70.
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” 70๋ช…์ด์—ˆ๋‹จ ๊ฑธ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
06:10
And he had four billion euro in turnover.
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๋งค์ถœ๋„ 40์–ต ์œ ๋กœ์˜€์–ด์š”.
06:13
And after a couple of wines,
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์™€์ธ์„ ๋ช‡ ์ž” ๋“ค์ดํ‚ค๊ณ 
06:15
I remember admitting to him that I felt that we did not deserve to be there,
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์„ ์ž๊ฒฉ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ .
06:19
that we were well out of our depth,
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ๋ถ€์กฑํ•œ ๊ฑธ
06:21
and at some time, someone was going to figure this out
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์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•„์ฑ„๊ณ 
06:23
and send us home to Australia.
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ํ˜ธ์ฃผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋ฒ„๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
06:25
And he, I remember, just paused and looked at me
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ง์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๊ณ  ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋”๋‹ˆ
06:28
and said that he felt exactly the same way
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๊ทธ๋ถ„๋„ ์ €์™€ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์ด ๋Š๋‚€๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
06:31
and that he suspected all the winners were feeling that way,
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๋ชจ๋“  ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋‚„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋ฉฐ
06:35
and that despite not knowing Scott or I or really anything about technology,
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์ €์™€ ์Šค์ฝง์ด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•„๋ฌด ์ง€์‹์ด ์—†์–ด๋„
06:38
he said that we were obviously doing something right
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ค‘์ด๋‹ˆ
06:41
and should probably just keep going.
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๊ณ„์† ๋ชจ๋ฅธ ์ฑ„๋กœ ์žˆ์–ด๋„ ๋  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ํ•ด์คฌ์ฃ .
06:43
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
06:44
Now, this was a pretty big light bulb moment for me for two reasons.
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๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ์ €๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํฐ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์Œ์„ ์–ป์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
06:47
One, I realized that other people felt this as well.
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์ฒซ์งธ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์ด ๋Š๋‚€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ
06:50
And two, I realized it doesn't go away with any form of success.
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๋‘˜์งธ, ๊ทธ ์–ด๋–ค ์„ฑ๊ณต๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฐ์ •์„ ์—†์• ์ฃผ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์ฃ .
06:54
I had assumed that successful people didn't feel like frauds,
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์ „ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
06:58
and I now know that the opposite is more likely to be true.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์— ๊ฐ€๊น๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋์ฃ .
07:01
And this isn't just a feeling that I have at work.
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์ด ๊ฐ์ •์„ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ๋งŒ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
07:04
It happens in my personal life, too.
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์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ ์ค‘์—๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ์ •์ด ๋“ค์ฃ .
07:06
In the early days,
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์˜ˆ์ „์—” ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ผ๋กœ ์ƒŒํ”„๋ž€์‹œ์Šค์ฝ”์— ๋งค์ฃผ ๊ฐ”์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
07:07
I was flying back and forth to San Francisco every week for Atlassian,
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07:11
and I racked up a lot of frequent flyer points
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๋งˆ์ผ๋ฆฌ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ์ ๋ฆฝํ–ˆ๊ณ 
07:13
and got access to the Qantas business lounge.
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๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค ๋ผ์šด์ง€๋ฅผ ์ด์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋์–ด์š”.
07:15
Now, if there's ever a place that I don't belong ...
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„๋งŒํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ณณ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ณด๋‹ˆ
07:17
(Laughter)
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07:19
It doesn't help when I walk in and they generally look at me in shorts and jeans,
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์ง์›๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ˜๋ฐ”์ง€๋‚˜ ์ฒญ๋ฐ”์ง€์— ํ‹ฐ์…”์ธ ๋ฅผ ์ž…์€ ์ ˆ ๋ณด๋ฉฐ
07:22
or jeans and a T-shirt, and say, "Can I help you, son? Are you lost?"
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โ€œ๋„์™€์ค„๊นŒ? ๊ธธ์„ ์žƒ์—ˆ์–ด?โ€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ์ „ํ˜€ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์ฃ .
07:26
But anyway, sometimes life happens in the Qantas lounge
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ „ํ˜€ ์˜ˆ์ƒ์น˜ ๋ชปํ•œ ์ผ์ด ๊ณตํ•ญ ๋ผ์šด์ง€์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์ธ์ƒ์ด์ฃ .
07:30
when you'd least expect it.
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07:31
One morning, over a decade ago,
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10๋…„ ์ „ ์–ด๋Š ๋‚ ,
07:33
I was sitting there on my regularly weekly commute,
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์ „ ์—ฌ๋Š ๋•Œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ผ์šด์ง€์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
07:35
and a beautiful woman from way out of my league
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์ €๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋“ค๋– ๋„ ์•ˆ ๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋ถ„์ด
07:38
walked into the Qantas lounge and continued walking straight up to me
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๋ผ์šด์ง€๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋”๋‹ˆ ์ œ ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ค๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
07:43
in a case of mistaken identity.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ž˜๋ชป ๋ณธ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
07:46
She thought I was someone else,
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๊ทธ ๋ถ„์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ด ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„ ์“ด ๊ฒŒ ๋งž๋„ค์š”.
07:47
so in this case, I actually was an impostor.
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07:50
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
07:52
But rather than freeze as I would have historically done
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „ ๋Š˜ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋“ฏ์ด ์–ผ์–ด ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
์˜ˆ์˜ ๋ฐ”๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
07:56
or chivalrously maybe informed her of her error,
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08:00
I just tried to keep the conversation going.
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๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€๋ ค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
08:02
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
08:04
And classic Australian bullshit became some sort of forward movement
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์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ํ˜ธ์ฃผ์ธ์˜ ํ—›์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ง„์ „๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ 
08:07
and a phone number.
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์ „ํ™”๋ฒˆํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ๊ตํ™˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
08:08
And I took that girl to the awards ceremony a couple of months later.
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๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ํ›„ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ƒ์‹์— ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ”์–ด์š”.
08:15
And more than a decade later,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ญ๋…„์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ง€๋‚œ ํ›„
๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์˜๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ œ ๋ถ€์ธ์ด ๋๊ณ 
08:17
I'm incredibly happy that she is now my wife,
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๋ˆˆ์— ๋„ฃ์–ด๋„ ์•„๊น์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๋„ค ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋๋„ค์š”.
08:19
and we have four amazing children together.
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08:21
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
08:27
But you'd think that when I wake up every morning,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์ฃ .
์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์ผ ์•„์นจ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋œจ๋ฉด, ๋Œ์•„๋ˆ„์›Œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ณ ๋„
08:29
I wouldn't roll over and look at her and think, "She's going to say,
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์–ด๋–ค ๋ง์„ ํ• ์ง€ ์ƒ์ƒํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
โ€˜โ€œ๋‹น์‹  ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์•ผ? ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋“ค์–ด์™”์–ด?โ€
08:33
'Who are you, and who gave you that side of the bed?'
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08:35
(Laughter)
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08:36
'Get out of here.'"
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โ€œ๋‹น์žฅ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€.โ€
08:38
But she doesn't.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
08:40
And I think she sometimes feels the same way.
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๊ฐ€๋” ๊ทธ๋…€๋„ ์ €์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
08:43
And apparently, that's one of the reasons
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ €ํฌ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ ์ƒํ™œ์ด ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ์ด์œ  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ฃ .
08:45
that we'll likely have a successful marriage.
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08:47
You see, in researching this talk,
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์ด ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์กฐ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ณด๋‹ˆ
08:49
I learned that one of the attributes of the most successful relationships
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„์˜ ํŠน์ง•์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ณด๋‹ค
08:53
is when both partners feel out of their league.
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๋ถ€์กฑํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž„์„ ์•Œ๊ฒ ๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
08:55
They feel that their partner is out of their league.
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๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
08:58
They feel like impostors.
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๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์ž์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ด๋ผ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
09:00
And if they don't freeze, and they're thankful,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋ƒ‰๋‹ดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ,
๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ ,
09:02
and they work harder and they stretch to be the best partner they can,
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์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ ค ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
09:06
it's likely to be a very successful relationship.
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09:08
So if you have this feeling, don't freeze.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฐ์ •์ด ๋“ค์–ด๋„ ๊ธด์žฅํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
09:11
Try to keep the conversation going,
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์ƒ๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋„
09:14
even if she thinks that you're somebody that you're not.
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๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ด์–ด ๊ฐ€๋ ค ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
09:18
Now, feeling like, or people thinking I'm someone I'm not
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
09:21
actually happens quite frequently.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ฝค ๋นˆ๋ฒˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
09:23
A great example from my more recent past,
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์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
09:26
a few months ago, I was up late at night with one of my kids,
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๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ์ „ ์•„์ด์™€ ๋Šฆ๊ฒŒ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊นจ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ์–ด๋Š ๋‚ ,
09:29
and I saw something on Twitter
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์–ด๋–ค ํŠธ์œ—์„ ์ฝ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
09:31
about Tesla saying that they could solve
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ํ…Œ์Šฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€ ์ž๊ธฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ „์ง€๋ฅผ ์ด์šฉํ•ด
09:33
South Australia's rolling series of power crises
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๋‚จํ˜ธ์ฃผ์—์„œ ๊ณ„์†๋˜๋Š” ์ „๋ ฅ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ
09:36
with one of their large industrial batteries.
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ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ํŠธ์œ—์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
09:39
Without thinking, I fired off a bunch of tweets,
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ํŠธ์œ—์„ ์ฝ์ž๋งˆ์ž ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํผ๋ถ€์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
09:41
challenging them and saying were they really serious about this.
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์˜์‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง„์ง€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ง์ธ์ง€ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์ฃ .
09:45
And in doing so, I managed to kick a very small rock
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ์ „ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์–ธ๋•์— ์žˆ๋Š”
09:48
off a very big hill
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์ž๊ทธ๋งˆํ•œ ๋Œ๋ฉฉ์ด๋ฅผ ์—†์• ๋ฒ„๋ ธ๊ณ 
09:50
that turned into an avalanche that I found myself tumbling in the middle of.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ ˆ ์ง‘์–ด์‚ผํ‚จ ๋ˆˆ์‚ฌํƒœ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
09:54
Because you see, a few hours later, Elon tweeted me back and said
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๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ํ›„ ์—˜๋ก  ๋จธ์Šคํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ต์„ ๋‚จ๊ฒผ์–ด์š”.
09:57
that they were deadly serious,
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์ž๊ธฐ๋„ค๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ง„์ง€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ
09:58
that within a hundred days of contract signing,
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๊ณ„์•ฝ ์ฒด๊ฒฐ ํ›„ 100์ผ ์ด๋‚ด์—
10:01
they could install a 100-megawatt-hour facility,
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์‹œ๊ฐ„๋‹น 100๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ €์žฅํ•˜๋Š”
10:03
which is a giant battery of a world-class size,
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ „์ง€์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‹œ์„ค์„ ์„ค์น˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
10:06
one of the biggest ever made on the planet.
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์„ธ๊ณ„์—์„œ ์ตœ๋Œ€๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
10:08
And that's when all hell really broke loose.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ๋‚œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฌ์ฃ .
10:11
Within 24 hours, I had every major media outlet
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24์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ฃผ์š” ์–ธ๋ก  ๋งค์ฒด์—์„œ
10:14
texting and emailing and trying to get in contact with me
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋กœ์„œ ์˜๊ฒฌ์„ ๋“ค๋ ค๋‹ฌ๋ผ๋ฉฐ
10:16
to get opinion as some sort of "expert" in energy.
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๋ฌธ์ž๋ฉฐ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”.
10:19
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
10:21
Now, at the time, I couldn't really have told you the difference
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๋‹น์‹œ์— ์ „ ์ œ ์•„์ด ์žฅ๋‚œ๊ฐ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š”
10:26
between a one-and-a-half-volt AA battery that goes in my kids' toys
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1.5๋ณผํŠธ AA ๊ฑด์ „์ง€์™€
10:31
and a 100-megawatt-hour industrial-scale battery facility
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๋‚จํ˜ธ์ฃผ์˜ ์ „๋ ฅ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š”
100 ๋ฉ”๊ฐ€์™€ํŠธ์‹œ ์‚ฐ์—…์šฉ ์ „๋ ฅ ์‹œ์„ค์ด
10:34
that goes in South Australia
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10:36
that could potentially solve their power crisis.
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๋ญ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ .
10:38
I was now feeling a chronic case of impostor syndrome,
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๋งŒ์„ฑ์ ์ธ ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์ฆํ›„๊ตฐ์ด ์˜จ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜๊ณ 
10:41
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
10:42
and it got truly bizarre.
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์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ๊ดดํ•œ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:44
And I remember thinking to myself,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋˜๋‡Œ์—ˆ์ฃ .
10:47
"Shit. I've kind of started something here and I can't really get out.
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"๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ด์ œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด.
๋งŒ์•ฝ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ฐœ์„ ๋นผ๋ฉด
10:51
If I abandon the situation,
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10:54
I'm going to sort of set back renewables in Australia
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ํ˜ธ์ฃผ์˜ ์žฌ์ƒ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์‚ฌ์—…์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฑฐ๊ณ 
10:57
and maybe just look like a complete idiot
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋ฐ”๋ณด ๊ฐ™์€ ํŠธ์œ— ๋•์—
10:59
because of my idiocy on Twitter."
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๋ฉ์ฒญ์ด๋กœ ๋ณด์ผ์ง€๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ผ."
11:02
So I thought the only thing I could do
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ธฐ์— ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์ผ์€
11:04
was to try not to freeze and to try to learn.
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๊ทธ์ € ๊ฐ€๋งŒํžˆ ์žˆ์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:06
So I spent a week
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ๋™์•ˆ
11:08
trying to learn everything I could about industrial-scale batteries
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์‚ฐ์—…์šฉ ์ „์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
11:11
and the electricity grid and renewables and the economics of all of this
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๋˜ ์ „๋ ฅ๋ง๊ณผ ์žฌ์ƒ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€, ์ด์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒฝ์ œํ•™,
11:15
and whether this was even a feasible proposal.
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ํ…Œ์Šฌ๋ผ์˜ ์ œ์•ˆ์ด ์‹คํ˜„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ์ง€๋„ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
11:17
I talked to the chief scientist, I talked to the CSIRO,
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์„ ์ž„ ๊ณผํ•™์ž์™€ ์—ฐ๋ฐฉ๊ณผํ•™์‚ฐ์—…์—ฐ๊ตฌ๊ธฐ๊ตฌ์— ๋ฌธ์˜๋„ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:20
had multiple ministers and premiers trying to give me their side of the story
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ถ€์„œ์˜ ์žฅ๊ด€๋‹˜๋“ค๊ณผ ์ „ ์ด๋ฆฌ๋‹˜๋“ค๋„ ๋‹น์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ ์—†์ด
11:24
from both sides of the aisle.
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๊ฐ์ž์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด์ฃผ์…จ์–ด์š”.
11:26
I managed to exchange tweets with the prime minister.
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์ด๋ฆฌ๋‹˜๊ณผ ํŠธ์œ—์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ๋ฐ›๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
11:29
I even managed to pull off a passing impression, let's say,
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ํ˜ธ์ฃผ ๊ตญ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์†ก ์†Œ์† ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€์˜
11:33
of an energy expert on ABC Lateline.
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๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ์ž ๊น ๋„๋Š” ๋ฐ๋„ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:35
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
11:37
But as a result of all this,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณผ์ • ๋•์—
11:39
South Australia did put out a battery tender,
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๋‚จํ˜ธ์ฃผ๋Š” ์ „์ง€ ์‚ฌ์—… ์ž…์ฐฐ์„ ๊ณต๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ƒˆ๊ณ 
11:41
and they had more than 90 applications for that battery tender.
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90๊ฐœ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์ œ์•ˆ์„œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์–ด์š”.
11:45
And the national conversation over a period of a few months
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ ์˜ํšŒ์—์„œ ํ•˜๋˜ ๊ฐ€์‹์ ์ธ ์„ํƒ„ ์–˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€
๊ตญ๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ๋…ผ์˜๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
11:49
moved from the sort of theatrical lumps of coal in the parliament
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11:52
to discussing kind of which industrial-scale battery chemistry
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฐ์—…์šฉ ์ „์ง€์˜ ํŠน์„ฑ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์žฌ์ƒ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€ ์ €์žฅ ์‹œ์„ค ๊ฑด์„ค์—
11:56
was the best for building large-scale renewable batteries.
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ ํ•ฉํ•œ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋…ผ์˜๋กœ์š”.
11:59
So I think that the important lesson is by that time in my life,
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๋‹น์‹œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊นจ์šฐ์นœ ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ๊ตํ›ˆ์€ ์ด๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:02
I knew well that I was an impostor.
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์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ด๋ผ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
12:04
I knew I was miles out of my depth.
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์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์ œ ๊นœ๋ƒฅ์ด ์•ˆ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:07
But instead of freezing, I tried to learn as much as I could,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€๋งŒํžˆ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹  ๋ฐ”๋ณด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฑฐ๋ž€ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์„ ์›๋™๋ ฅ์œผ๋กœ
12:10
motivated by my fear of generally looking like an idiot,
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ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ ์ตœ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋ ค ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
12:13
and tried to turn that into some sort of a force for good.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์„ ํ•œ ํž˜์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
12:18
So one of the things I've learned
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฑด
12:20
is that people think successful people don't feel like frauds.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ž์‹ ์„ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค ๋Š๋‚„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ 
์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
12:25
But I think, especially knowing a lot of entrepreneurs,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ์—…๊ฐ€๋“ค์„ ๋ด๋„
12:28
the opposite is more likely to be true.
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์‹ค์ƒ์€ ๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์— ๊ฐ€๊น์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:31
But the most successful people I know don't question themselves,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
12:36
but they do heavily question, regularly question, their ideas
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ๊ณผ ์ง€์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•˜๊ฒŒ, ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์ฃ .
12:40
and their knowledge.
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12:41
They know when the water is way too deep,
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๋ฐœ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊นŠ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ด๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ 
์กฐ์–ธ์„ ์–ป๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
12:45
and they're not afraid to ask for advice.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹จ ๊ฑธ ์•„๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
12:47
They don't see that as a bad thing.
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12:48
And they use that advice to hone those ideas, to improve them
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณค ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€๋‹ค๋“ฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ  ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ
12:52
and to learn.
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์กฐ์–ธ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•ด์š”.
12:53
And it's OK to be out of your depth sometimes.
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๊ฐ€๋” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ๋ฐ–์˜ ์ผ์„ ๋งก์•„๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”.
์ „ ์ž์ฃผ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋Š” ๊ฑธ์š”.
12:56
I'm frequently out of my depth.
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12:57
It's OK to be out of your depth.
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๊นœ๋ƒฅ์ด ์•ˆ๋˜๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”.
12:59
It's OK to be in a situation where you just can't push the eject button,
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ํƒˆ์ถœ ๋ฒ„ํŠผ์„ ๋ˆ„๋ฅด์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์ฒ˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๊ณ ์š”.
13:03
so long as you don't freeze,
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๊ทธ์ € ์–ผ์–ด ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ,
13:05
so long as you harness the situation, don't be paralyzed
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๋ฌด๊ธฐ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•ด
13:08
and try to turn it into some sort of a force for good.
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๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์„ ํ•œ ํž˜์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”.
13:11
And it's important that I say "harness" here,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ "์ด์šฉ"์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๋ฐ์š”.
13:13
because this isn't sort of pop-psychology BS
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๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ์ฆํ›„๊ตฐ์„ ์ •๋ณตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š”
13:16
about conquering impostor syndrome for me.
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ํ†ต์†์ ์ธ ์‹ฌ๋ฆฌํ•™์˜ ํ—›์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
13:18
It's merely about being aware of it.
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๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹จ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ์ธ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
13:20
In fact, I'm extremely aware of feeling like an impostor right now,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„ ์ธ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
13:24
as I'm up here, some sort of pseudo-expert
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์ด ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ ์ „๋งŒ ํ•ด๋„
13:27
on a feeling that I couldn't even put a name to a few months ago,
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์ด๋ฆ„์กฐ์ฐจ ๋ถ™์ด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋Š๋‚Œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์†Œ์œ„ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋กœ์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์„œ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
13:30
when I agreed to do this talk.
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13:32
Which, if you think about it, is kind of the point, isn't it?
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์ด ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์˜ ์š”์  ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
13:36
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
13:37
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:38
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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