How Dolly Parton led me to an epiphany | Jad Abumrad

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: ์„ฑ๊ฒฝ ๊ณ  ๊ฒ€ํ† : hansom Lee
00:17
I want to tell you about my search for purpose as a journalist
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ์ž๋กœ์„œ์˜ ์†Œ๋ช…์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ 
00:20
and how Dolly Parton helped me figure it out.
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๋Œ๋ฆฌ ํŒŒํŠผ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋„์™€์คฌ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:25
So I've been telling audio stories for about 20 years,
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20๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:27
first on the radio and then in podcasts.
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์ฒ˜์Œ์— ๋ผ๋””์˜ค ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์—๋Š” ํŒŸ์บ์Šค์—์„œ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
00:29
When I started the radio show "Radiolab" in 2002,
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2002๋…„์— "๋ผ๋””์˜ค๋žฉ"์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋ผ๋””์˜ค์‡ผ์—์„œ ์ผํ•  ๋•Œ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ,
00:33
here was the quintessential story move we would do.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์ „ํ˜•์ ์ธ ์ง„ํ–‰๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:36
We'd bring on somebody --
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์ดˆ๋Œ€์†๋‹˜์„ ๋ชจ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:38
(Audio) Steven Strogatz: It's one of the most hypnotic
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(์Œ์„ฑ) ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธ ์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ๊ฐ€์ธ : ์ž์—ฐ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๊ณ 
00:40
and spellbinding spectacles in nature,
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๋งคํ˜น์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝ๊ด€ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:43
because, you have to keep in mind, it is absolutely silent.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ์ด๊ฑธ ๋ช…์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๊ณ ์š”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„์š”.
00:46
Jad Abumrad: Like this guy, mathematician, Steve Strogatz,
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์ˆ˜ํ•™์ž์ธ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋กœ๊ฐ€์ธ ๋Š”
00:49
and he would paint a picture.
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๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:50
SS: Picture it. There's a riverbank in Thailand,
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์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ํƒœ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋–จ์–ด์ง„
00:52
in the remote part of the jungle,
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์ •๊ธ€์— ๊ฐ•๋‘‘์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:54
you're in a canoe, slipping down the river.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์นด๋ˆ„๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ๊ฐ•์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:57
There's no sound of anything,
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์–ด๋– ํ•œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋„ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:58
maybe the occasional, you know, exotic jungle bird or something.
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๊ฐ€๋”์”ฉ, ์ •๊ธ€์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ตญ์ ์ธ ์ƒˆ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ์ด ๋“ค๋ฆด ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:02
JA: So you're in this imaginary canoe with Steve,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ƒ์ƒ์˜ ์นด๋ˆ„๋ฅผ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์™€ ํ•จ๊ผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
01:04
and in the air all around you are millions of fireflies.
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๋‹น์‹  ์ฃผ์œ„์—๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๋ฐ˜๋”ง๋ถˆ์ด๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:08
And what you see is sort of a randomized starry-night effect.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ด‘๊ฒฝ์€ ๋ณ„๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์ž‘์œ„๋กœ ๋น›๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐค๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:12
Because all the fireflies are blinking at different rates.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฐ˜๋”ง๋ถˆ์ด๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋น›์˜ ์–‘์œผ๋กœ ๋น›๋‚˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
01:15
Which is what you would expect.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฑด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ฒ ์ฃ .
01:17
But according to Steve, in this one place,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์— ์˜ํ•˜๋ฉด, ์ด๊ณณ์—์„œ๋Š”,
01:20
for reasons no scientist can fully explain --
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๊ทธ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋„ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š”--
01:22
SS: Whoop.
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ํ›•
01:24
Whoop.
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ํ›•
01:26
Whoop.
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ํ›•
01:28
With thousands of lights on and then off, all in sync.
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์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๋น›๋“ค์ด ๋™์‹œ์— ์ผœ์กŒ๋‹ค ๊บผ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:31
(Music and electric sounds)
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(์Œ์•…๊ณผ ์ „์ž์Œ)
01:38
JA: Now it's around this time
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์ด์ œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋“ฏ์ด
01:39
that I would generally bring in the beautiful music, as I just did,
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๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ค๋ ค์ฃผ๋ฉด
01:43
and you'd start to get that warm feeling.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•œ ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฒ ์ฃ .
01:45
A feeling, that we know from science,
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์ด ๊ฐ์ •์€, ๊ณผํ•™์œผ๋กœ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜์ž๋ฉด
01:46
kind of localizes in your head and chest
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๋จธ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๊ฐ€์Šด์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์—ฌ
01:48
and spreads through your body.
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๋ชธ ์ „์ฒด๋กœ ํผ์ ธ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
01:50
It's that feeling of wonder.
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๊ทธ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฒฝ์ด๋กœ์›€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:51
From 2002 to 2010, I did hundreds of these stories.
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2002๋…„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 2010๋…„๊นŒ์ง€ ์ €๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ ๋ฒˆ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:56
Sciency, neurosciency, very heady, brainy stories
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๊ณผํ•™์ ์ด๊ณ  ์‹ ๊ฒฝ๊ณผํ•™์ ์ด๋ฉฐ ์ด๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜๊ฐ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค์€
02:00
that would always resolve into that feeling of wonder.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฒฝ์ด๋กœ์›€์œผ๋กœ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:03
And I began to see that as my job,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์ผ์ด,
02:05
to lead people to moments of wonder.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฒฝ์ด๋กœ์šด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ .
02:08
What that sounded like was:
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๊ทธ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋• ๋ƒ๋ฉด:
02:09
(Various voices) "Huh!" "Wow!" "Wow!"
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"ํ—ˆ", "์™€์•„์•„์šฐ", "์™€์šฐ"
02:14
"That's amazing."
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"๋Œ€๋‹จํ•˜๋‹ค."
02:15
"Whoa!" "Wow!"
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"ํ›„์•„" "์™€์šฐ"
02:17
JA: But I began to get kind of tired of these stories.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค์ด ์ง€๊ฒจ์›Œ์ง€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
02:20
I mean, partially, it was the repetition.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š”์š”. ์ด๊ฑด ๋ฐ˜๋ณต์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:22
I remember there was a day I was sitting at the computer,
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์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ์•ž์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:25
making the sound of a neuron.
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์‹ ๊ฒฝ์„ธํฌ์˜ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ฉด์„œ์š”.
02:26
(Crackling sound)
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(ํƒํƒ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ)
02:28
You know, take some white noise, chop it up, very easy sound to make.
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๋ฐฑ์ƒ‰ ์†Œ์Œ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค ์ž๋ฅด๋Š” ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ๋งค์šฐ ์‰ฌ์šด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์˜€์ฃ .
02:31
I remember thinking, "I have made this sound 25 times."
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜์š”. "์ด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ 25๋ฒˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด."
02:35
But it was more than that --
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:37
there was a familiar path to these stories.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ์ต์ˆ™ํ•œ ๊ธธ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:39
You walk the path of truth, which is made of science,
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๊ณผํ•™์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ง„ ์ง„์‹ค์˜ ๊ธธ์„ ๊ฑท๋‹ค ๋ณด๋ฉด
02:41
and you get to wonder.
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๊ฒฝ์˜๋กœ์›€์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:43
Now, I love science, don't get me wrong.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ณผํ•™์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜คํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
02:45
My parents emigrated from a war-torn country,
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์ €ํฌ ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์€ ๋‚ด์ „์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ํ†ต๋ฐ›๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ,
02:47
came to America,
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋ฏผ์˜ค์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:48
and science for them was, like, more their identity than anything else,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ณผํ•™์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:53
and I inherited that from them.
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์ € ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฌผ๋ ค๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ .
02:56
But there was something about that simple movement
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณผํ•™์—์„œ ๊ฒฝ์ด๋กœ์›€๊นŒ์ง€
02:58
from science to wonder
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋‹จ์ˆœํ–ˆ๊ณ 
03:00
that just started to feel wrong to me.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์ž˜๋ชป๋๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:01
Like, is that the only path a story can take?
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋„๋‹ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธธ์ด ์ด ๊ธธ ๋ฟ์ธ๊ฐ€?
03:04
Around 2012,
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2012๋…„ ์ฆˆ์Œ์—
03:06
I ran into a bunch of different stories that made me think, "No."
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์ „ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค์„ ์ ‘ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ "์•„๋‹ˆ"๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹ต์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ–ˆ์ฃ .
03:11
One story in particular,
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ํŠนํžˆ ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์—์„œ
03:12
where we interviewed a guy who described chemical weapons
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ™”ํ•™ ๋ฌด๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ผ์˜ค์Šค ์‚ฐ๋งฅ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š”
03:16
being used against him and his fellow villagers
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๊ทธ์™€ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋งˆ์„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ญํ•˜์—ฌ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ 
03:19
in the mountains of Laos.
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๋ฌ˜์‚ฌํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐํ–ˆ์ฃ .
03:20
Western scientists went there,
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์„œ์–‘ ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜์—ฌ
03:22
measured for chemical weapons, didn't find any.
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ํ™”ํ•™์  ๋ฌด๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ธก์ •ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:25
We interviewed the man about this,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด ๋‚จ์ž์™€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
03:26
he said the scientists were wrong.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ณผํ•™์ž๋“ค์ด ํ‹€๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:28
We said, "But they tested."
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๊ณ 
03:29
He said, "I don't care, I know what happened to me."
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์ผ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•„์š”."
03:32
And we went back and forth and back and forth,
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์ด๋Ÿฐ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ์ฃผ๊ณ  ๋ฐ›์•˜๊ณ ,
03:34
and make a long story short,
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์š”์•ฝํ•˜์ž๋ฉด
03:36
the interview ended in tears.
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์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๊ฑฐํ’ˆ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:38
I felt ...
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์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:40
I felt horrible.
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๋”์ฐํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:43
Like, hammering at a scientific truth, when someone has suffered.
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๋งˆ์น˜, ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ณ ํ†ต๋ฐ›์œผ๋ฉด ๊ณผํ•™์  ์ง„์‹ค์ด ๋ถ€์„œ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
That wasn't going to heal anything.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์น˜์œ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์ฃ .
03:49
And maybe I was relying too much on science to find the truth.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง„์‹ค์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๊ณผํ•™์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์˜์กดํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ฃ .
03:53
And it really did feel, at that moment,
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๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:55
that there were a lot of truths in the room,
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์ด ๊ณต๊ฐ„์— ๋งŽ์€ ์ง„์‹ค๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
03:57
and we were only looking at one of them.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋งŒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„์š”.
03:59
So I thought, "I've got to get better at this."
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ . "ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„."
04:02
And so for the next eight years,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ ํ›„ 8๋…„ ๊ฐ„
04:03
I committed myself to doing stories where you heard truths collide.
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์ „ ์ง„์‹ค์ด ์ถฉ๋Œํ•  ๋•Œ์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค์„ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ „๋…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:07
We did stories about the politics of consent,
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์ •์น˜์  ํ•ฉ์˜์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
04:09
where you heard the perspective of survivors and perpetrators
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์ƒ์กด์ž์™€ ๊ฐ€ํ•ด์ž์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š”
04:12
whose narratives clashed.
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์„œ๋กœ์˜ ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถฉ๋Œํ–ˆ์ฃ .
04:13
We did stories about race,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ธ์ข…์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:14
how black men are systematically eliminated from juries,
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ํ‘์ธ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ œ๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฒ•์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐฐ์ œ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ 
04:17
and yet, the rules that try and prevent that from happening
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ง‰๋„๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฒ•์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ๋Š”์ง€
04:20
only make things worse.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋“ค์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒํ™ฉ๋งŒ ์•…ํ™”ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ.
04:21
Stories about counter terrorism, Guantanamo detainees,
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ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ญํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค, ๊ด€ํƒ€๋‚˜๋ชจ ์ˆ˜์šฉ์ž๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
04:24
stories where everything is disputed,
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค ๋…ผ์Ÿ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:25
all you can do is struggle to try and make sense.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๊ณ ๊ตฐ๋ถ€ํˆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
04:28
And this struggle kind of became the point.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ตฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌ๋Š” ์š”์ ์— ๋‹ค๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:32
I began to think, "Maybe that's my job."
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"์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด ์ผ์ด๊ตฌ๋‚˜." ์ „ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:34
To lead people to moments of struggle.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์— ๋Œ์–ด๋“ค์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ.
04:37
Here's what that sounded like:
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์–ด๋–ค ์†Œ๋ฆฐ์ง€ ๋“ค๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ฃ .
04:38
(Various voices) "But I see -- I, like --"
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"ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚œ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ--"
04:40
"Uh, I --" (Sighs)
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"์–ด.. ๋‚˜๋Š”..."(ํ•œ์ˆจ)
04:41
"Well, so, like, huh --"
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"๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ํ•˜--"
04:43
"That, I mean, I --"
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"๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, "
04:45
"You know -- golly -- I --" (Sighs)
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"์žˆ์ž–์•„.. ์™€.. ๋‚˜๋Š”..."(ํ•œ์ˆจ)
04:49
JA: And that sigh right there,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ํ•œ์ˆจ์„,
04:52
I wanted to hear that sound in every single story,
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๊ฐ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ํ•œ์ˆจ์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:55
because that sound is kind of our current moment, right?
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์•ผ๋ง๋กœ ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”, ๊ทธ์ตธ?
04:58
We live in a world where truth is no longer just a set of facts
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์ง„์‹ค์ด ์ผ๋ จ์˜ ํฌ์ฐฉ๋œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด
05:02
to be captured.
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์•„๋‹Œ ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:03
It's become a process.
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์ด๊ฑด ๊ณผ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:04
It's gone from being a noun to being a verb.
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๋ช…์‚ฌ๋ผ๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋™์‚ฌ์ฃ .
05:07
But how do you end that story?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋๋‚ผ๊นŒ์š”?
05:09
Like, what literally kept happening is we'd be, you know, telling a story,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ์•ผ๋ง๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ 
05:13
cruising along, two viewpoints in conflict,
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์„œ๋กœ ์ถฉ๋Œํ•˜๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ด€์ ์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ˆœํ•ญํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ,
05:15
you get to the end and it's just like --
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๊ทธ ๋์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜--
05:18
No, let me see.
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์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค„๊ฒŒ์š”.
05:19
What do I say at the end?
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋์— ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ ?
05:20
Oh, my God.
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์˜ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ
05:21
What do you -- how do you end that story?
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๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋๋งบ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
05:23
You can't just happily-ever-after it,
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๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์˜์›ํžˆ ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์— ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:25
because that doesn't feel real.
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์ง„์งœ๋กœ ๋Š๊ปด์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:27
At the same time,
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๋™์‹œ์—
05:28
if you just leave people in that stuck place,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๊ฐ‡ํžˆ๊ฒŒ ๋‘”๋‹ค๋ฉด
05:30
like, "Why did I just listen to that?"
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"์™œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์–ด์•ผํ•ด?" ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
05:32
Like, it felt like there had to be another move there.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์›€์ง์ž„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:35
Had to be a way beyond the struggle.
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๋…ผ์Ÿ์„ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:37
And this is what brings me to Dolly.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:42
Or Saint Dolly, as we like to call her in the South.
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ํ˜น ์„ฑ์ธ ๋Œ๋ฆฌ, ๋‚จ๋ถ€์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:44
I want to tell you about one little glimmer of an epiphany that I had,
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์ž‘๋…„์— "๋Œ๋ฆฌ ํŒŒํŠผ์˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ"์ด๋ผ๋Š” 9๋ถ€์ž‘ ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ์ง‘ํ•„ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
05:48
doing a nine-part series called "Dolly Parton's America" last year.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์€ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:51
It was a bit of a departure for me,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ถœ๋ฐœ์ ์ด์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
05:53
but I just had this intuition that Dolly could help me
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์ „ ์ง๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ
05:56
figure out this ending problem.
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๋„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:58
And here was the basic intuition:
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์ง๊ด€์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
06:00
You go to a Dolly concert,
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๋Œ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ฝ˜์„œํŠธ์— ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:01
you see men in trucker hats standing next to men in drag,
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ํž™ํ•ฉ ์•ผ๊ตฌ๋ชจ์ž๋ฅผ ์“ด ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์žฅ์„ ํ•œ ๋‚จ์ž์˜ ์˜†์— ์„œ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต,
06:04
Democrats standing next to Republicans,
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๊ณตํ™”์ฃผ์˜์ž๋“ค ์˜†์— ์„œ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฏผ์ฃผ์ฃผ์˜์ž๋“ค
06:06
women holding hands,
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์†์„ ์žก๊ณ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ž๋“ค
06:07
every different kind of person smashed together.
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋กœ ๋ถ€๋”ช์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:09
All of these people that we are told should hate each other
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋กœ ์ฆ์˜คํ•ด์•ผํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ฃผ์žฅํ•˜๋Š”
06:12
are there singing together.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:14
She somehow carved out this unique space in America,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿญ์ €๋Ÿญ ๋…ํŠนํ•œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐœ์ฒ™ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:17
and I wanted to know, how did she do that?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ–ˆ์ฃ .
06:20
So I interviewed Dolly 12 times, two separate continents.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ๋–จ์–ด์ง„ ๋‘ ๊ฐœ์˜ ๋Œ€๋ฅ™์—์„œ ๋Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ 12๋ฒˆ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
She started every interview this way:
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
06:26
(Audio) Dolly Parton: Ask me whatever you ask me,
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๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ ์ง€ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์…”๋„ ์ƒ๊ด€์—†์–ด์š”.
06:28
and I'm going to tell you what I want you to hear.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด๊ฒŒ์š”.
(์›ƒ์Œ์†Œ๋ฆฌ)
06:31
(Laughter)
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06:32
JA: She is undeniably a force of nature.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋ถ€์ •ํ•  ํ•„์š”์—†์ด ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:34
But the problem that I ran into
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋”ช์นœ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š”
06:37
is that I had chosen a conceit for this series
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์ด ์‹œ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•œ ์ €์˜ ์˜ค๋งŒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:41
that my soul had trouble with.
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์ œ ์˜ํ˜ผ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ .
06:44
Dolly sings a lot about the South.
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๋Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‚จ๋ถ€์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:46
If you go through her discography,
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์Œ์•…์€ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ,
06:47
you will hear song after song about Tennessee.
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ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ์ฃผ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ž˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:49
(Music) DP: (Singing, various songs) Tennessee, Tennessee...
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ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ, ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ
06:52
Tennessee homesick ...
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ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋ณ‘...
06:55
I've got those Tennessee homesick blues runnin' through my head.
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ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋ณ‘์— ๊ฑธ๋ ค ๋‚ด ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์€ ๊ณ„์† ์šฐ์šธํ•ด.
07:00
Tennessee.
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ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ
07:01
JA: "Tennessee Mountain Home," "Tennessee Mountain Memories."
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"ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ์ฃผ์˜ ์‚ฐ์˜ ๊ณ ํ–ฅ" "ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ์ฃผ์˜ ์‚ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋“ค"
07:04
Now I grew up in Tennessee,
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์ €๋Š” ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ์—์„œ ์ž๋ž๊ณ 
07:06
and I felt no nostalgia for that place.
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์ „ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ค ํ–ฅ์ˆ˜๋ณ‘๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:08
I was the scrawny Arab kid
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์ €๋Š” ๋ผˆ๋งŒ ์•™์ƒํ•œ ์•„๋ž ์†Œ๋…„์ด์—ˆ๊ณ 
07:11
who came from the place that invented suicide bombing.
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๋‹น์‹œ์— ์ž์‚ดํญํƒ„ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์™”์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:14
I spent a lot of time in my room.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ฐฉ์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:17
When I left Nashville,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด์Šˆ๋นŒ์„ ๋– ๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ,
07:18
I left.
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์ „ ๋– ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:20
I remember being at Dollywood,
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๋Œ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ์— ๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜๋„ค์š”.
07:22
standing in front of a replica, replica of her Tennessee Mountain Home.
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๋ณต์ œํ’ˆ ์•ž์— ์„œ์„œ, ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ๋งˆ์šดํ‹ด ํ™ˆ ๋ณต์ œํ’ˆ ์•ž์—์„œ์š”.
07:26
People all around me were crying.
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์ œ ์ฃผ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ผ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์šธ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:27
This is a set.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์„ธํŠธ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:30
Why are you crying?
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์™œ ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ?
07:31
I couldn't understand why they were so emotional,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์™œ ๊ทธํ† ๋ก ๊ฐ์„ฑ์ ์ธ์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ๊ณ ,
07:34
especially given my relationship to the South.
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ํŠนํžˆ ๋‚จ๋ถ€์™€ ์ €์™€์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉด ๋” ๊ทธ๋žฌ์ฃ .
07:37
And I started to honestly have panic attacks about this.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ž ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๊ณตํ™ฉ๋ฐœ์ž‘์ด ์ฐพ์•„์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:40
"Am I not the right person for this project?"
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"๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์— ์ ํ•ฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜?"
07:43
But then ...
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ๋•Œ
07:45
twist of fate.
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์šด๋ช…์ด ๋ฐ”๋€๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:46
We meet this guy, Bryan Seaver,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ธŒ๋ผ์ด์–ธ ์‹œ๋ฒ„๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:48
Dolly's nephew and bodyguard.
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๋Œ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์กฐ์นด์ด์ž ๊ฒฝํ˜ธ์›์ด์ฃ .
07:50
And on a whim, he drives producer Shima Oliaee and I
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์ถฉ๋™์ ์œผ๋กœ, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ํ”„๋กœ๋“€์„œ ์‹œ๋งˆ ์˜ฌ๋ ˆ์ด์™€ ์ €๋ฅผ ํƒœ์šฐ๊ณ 
07:53
out of Dollywood,
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๋Œ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋– ๋‚˜
07:55
round the back side of the mountains,
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์‚ฐ๋งฅ์„ ๋Œ์•„ ๋’ทํŽธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ
07:57
up the mountains 20 minutes,
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20๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์‚ฐ์„ ์˜ค๋ฅด๊ณ 
07:58
down a narrow dirt road,
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์ข๊ณ  ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ธธ์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค์™€
08:00
through giant wooden gates that look right out of "Game of Thrones,"
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"์™•์ขŒ์˜ ๊ฒŒ์ž„"์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋“ฏํ•œ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‚˜๋ฌด ๋ฌธ์„ ํ†ต๊ณผํ•ด
08:03
and into the actual Tennessee Mountain Home.
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์‹ค์ œ ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ๋งˆ์šดํ‹ด ํ™ˆ์œผ๋กœ ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:09
But the real place.
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์‹ค์ œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
08:10
Valhalla.
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๋ฐœํ• ๋ผ.
08:11
The real Tennessee Mountain Home.
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์ง„์งœ ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ์‚ฐ ์†์˜ ์ง‘.
08:13
And I'm going to score this part with Wagner,
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์ด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋ฐ”๊ทธ๋„ˆ ์ •๋„๋กœ ํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์š”.
08:15
because you've got to understand,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค๋„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์‹ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:17
in Tennessee lore,
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ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ์ฃผ์˜ ์ „ํ†ต์—์„œ
08:18
this is like hallowed ground, the Tennessee Mountain Home.
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์ด๊ณณ์€ ๋งˆ์น˜ ์„ฑ์ง€๊ฐ™์•˜์–ด์š”. ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ๋งˆ์šดํ‹ด ํ™ˆ์€.
08:21
So I remember standing there, on the grass,
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์ž”๋””๋ฐญ ์œ„์— ์„œ ์žˆ๋˜ ๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”.
08:23
next to the Pigeon River,
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ํ”ผ์ „๊ฐ• ์˜†,
08:25
butterflies doing loopty loops in the air,
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๋‚˜๋น„๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š˜์—์„œ ์›์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ ๋‚ ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
08:28
and I had my own moment of wonder.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์ด๋กœ์›€์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์ฃ .
08:31
Dolly's Tennessee Mountain Home
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๋Œ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ์ฃผ์˜ ์‚ฐ ์†์˜ ์ง‘์€
08:33
looks exactly like my dad's home in the mountains of Lebanon.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋ ˆ๋ฐ”๋…ผ ์‚ฐ๋งฅ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ €์˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์˜ ์ง‘๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์•„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:38
Her house looks just like the place that he left.
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ง‘์€ ๋งˆ์น˜ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ๋†“์€ ๊ณณ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:42
And that simple bit of layering led me to have a conversation with him
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๋‹จ์ˆœํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฒน์ณ๋ณด์ธ๋‹จ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์™€์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ด๋Œ์–ด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:45
that I'd never had before,
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์ „์—๋Š” ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜,
08:46
about the pain he felt leaving his home.
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์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์ง‘์„ ๋– ๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ ๋Š๊ผˆ์„ ๊ณ ํ†ต์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”์š”.
08:49
And how he hears that in Dolly's music.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€๋„์š”.
08:51
Then I had a conversation with Dolly where she described her songs
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ „ ๋Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์Œ์•…์„ ์ด์ฃผ์˜ ์Œ์•…์ด๋ผ๊ณ 
08:54
as migration music.
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์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆด์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:56
Even that classic song,
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๊ทธ ํด๋ž˜์‹ ์Œ์•…์กฐ์ฐจ๋„
08:58
"Tennessee Mountain Home," if you listen to it --
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"ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ์ฃผ ์‚ฐ ์†์˜ ์ง‘" ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ด ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ๋“ค์œผ์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด--
09:01
(Dolly Parton "Tennessee Mountain Home")
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(๋Œ๋ฆฌ ํŒŒํŠผ์˜ "ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ์ฃผ ์‚ฐ ์†์˜ ์ง‘")
"์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ์ •์˜ค ์ •๋ฌธ ํ˜„๊ด€์— ์•‰์•„
09:03
"Sittin' on the front porch on a summer afternoon
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09:08
In a straight-backed chair on two legs,
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"๋“ฑ๋ฐ›์ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ์ด๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‘ ๊ฐœ์ธ ์˜์ž์— ์•‰์•„์„œ,
09:12
leaned against the wall."
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"๋ฒฝ์— ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์žˆ๋„ค."
09:17
It's about trying to capture a moment that you know is already gone.
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์ด๋ฏธ ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋ฒ„๋ ธ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žก๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋…ธ๋žฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:21
But if you can paint it, vividly,
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ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ ค๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
09:24
maybe you can freeze it in place, almost like in resin,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ฉ์„ฑ ์ˆ˜์ง€์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์–ผ๋ ค์„œ
09:28
trapped between past and present.
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๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์™€ ํ˜„์žฌ ์‚ฌ์ด๋ฅผ ์žก์•„ ๋†“์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
09:31
That is the immigrant experience.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด์ฃผ์˜ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:33
And that simple thought led me to a million conversations.
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋กœ ์ด๋•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:36
I started talking to musicologists about country music as a whole.
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์ „ ์ปจํŠธ๋ฆฌ ์Œ์•…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์Œ์•…ํ•™์ž์™€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:40
This genre that I've always felt so
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์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ผ์˜จ ๊ณณ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚€
09:43
having nothing to do with where I came from
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์žฅ๋ฅด๋“ค์ด
09:45
is actually made up of instruments and musical styles
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ค‘๋™์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ง์ ‘ ์ „ํ•ด์ง„
09:48
that came directly from the Middle East.
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์•…๊ธฐ์™€ ์Œ์•…์ ์ธ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:50
In fact, there were trade routes that ran from what is now Lebanon
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ ˆ๋ฐ”๋…ผ์ธ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด
09:54
right up into the mountains of East Tennessee.
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๋™์ชฝ ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ์‚ฐ๋งฅ๊นŒ์ง€ ์ด์–ด์ง„ ๊ต์—ญ๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:57
I can honestly say, standing there, looking at her home,
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์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์„œ, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์„œ์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์ง‘์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋ฉฐ
10:00
was the first time I felt like I'm a Tennessean.
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์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ…Œ๋„ค์‹œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:04
That is honestly true.
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์†”์งํžˆ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:06
And this wasn't a one-time thing,
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์ด๋ฒˆ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:08
I mean, over and over again,
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์ œ ๋ง์€ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ
10:09
she would force me beyond the simple categories
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ถ„๋ฅ˜ํ•ด๋†“์€
10:13
I had constructed for the world.
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๋ถ„๋ฅ˜๋“ค์„ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ๋„๋ก ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:15
I remember talking with her about her seven-year partnership
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๊ทธ๋…€์™€ 7๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•œ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์ธ ํฌํŠธ๋„ˆ ์™€๊ทธ๋„ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ
10:18
with Porter Wagoner.
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์–˜๊ธฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”.
10:19
1967, she joins his band, he is the biggest thing in country music,
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1967๋…„, ๊ทธ์˜ ๋ฐด๋“œ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ปจํŠธ๋ฆฌ ๋ฎค์ง์˜ ๊ฑฐ์žฅ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:23
she is a backup singer, a nobody.
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๋Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋ฐฑ์—… ๊ฐ€์ˆ˜์˜€์ฃ . ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:26
Within a short time, she gets huge,
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์งง์€ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„์—, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
10:28
he gets jealous,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์งˆํˆฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:29
he then sues her for three million dollars
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ 36์–ต๊ฐ€๋Ÿ‰์œผ๋กœ ๊ณ ์†Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:32
when she tries to leave.
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋– ๋‚˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๋•Œ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:33
Now it would be really easy to see Porter Wagoner
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์ด์ œ ํฌํŠธ๋„ˆ ์™€๊ทธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ๋” ์ž˜ ์•Œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ตฐ์š”.
10:36
as, like, a type: classic, patriarchal jackass,
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๊ฐ€๋ถ€์žฅ์ ์ด๊ณ , ๊ถŒ์œ„์ ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ์„œ
10:40
trying to hold her back.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:41
But any time I would suggest that to her,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ํ•˜์ฃ ,
10:43
like, come on.
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10:44
(Audio) This is a guy, I mean, you see it in the videos too,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ํ•œ ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ๋ง์€, ์˜์ƒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”.
10:47
he's got his arm around you.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ํŒ”๋กœ ๊ฐ์‹ธ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:49
There's a power thing happening, for sure.
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๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:53
DP: Well, it's more complicated than that.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”.
10:55
I mean, just think about it.
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์ œ ๋ง์€, ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”
10:57
He had had this show for years,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‡ผ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
10:59
he didn't need me to have his hit show.
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๊ทธ์˜ ์‡ผ๊ฐ€ ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”์—†์—ˆ์ฃ .
11:02
He wasn't expecting me to be all that I was, either.
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๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ „์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ „๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ผ์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
11:06
I was a serious entertainer, he didn't know that.
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์ „ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์—”ํ„ฐํ…Œ์ด๋„ˆ์˜€๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋ชฐ๋ž์ฃ .
11:09
He didn't know how many dreams I had.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฟˆ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชฐ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:12
JA: In effect, she kept telling me,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ƒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:14
"Don't bring your stupid way of seeing the world into my story,
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"๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธธ ๋ณด์ง€๋งˆ.
11:17
because that's not what it was.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ.
11:18
Yeah, there was power, but that's not all there was.
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๋ญ, ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
11:21
You can't summarize this."
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์ด๊ฑธ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ™”ํ•  ์ˆœ ์—†์–ด์š”."
11:25
Alright, just to zoom out.
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„“๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋„๋ก ํ•˜์ฃ .
11:27
What do I make of this?
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
11:28
Well, I think there's something in here that's a clue, a way forward.
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์ „ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹จ์„œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
11:32
As journalists, we love difference.
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๊ธฐ์ž๋กœ์„œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:34
We love to fetishize difference.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฐจ์ด์— ์ง‘์ฐฉํ•˜์ฃ .
11:35
But increasingly, in this confusing world,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ ์  ๋”, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜ผ๋ž€์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ,
11:38
we need to be the bridge between those differences.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ฐจ์ด ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋†“์ผ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:41
But how do you do that?
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
11:43
I think for me, now, the answer is simple.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์—” ๋‹ต์€ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:46
You interrogate those differences,
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ฐจ์ด๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋ชจ์•„
11:48
you hold them for as long as you can,
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๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŒํผ ์ง€๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
11:51
until, like up on that mountain,
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์‚ฐ์— ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด
11:54
something happens,
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•  ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€
11:55
something reveals itself.
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚  ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:57
Story cannot end in difference.
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ฐจ์ด๋กœ ๋๋งบ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:59
It's got to end in revelation.
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ํญ๋กœ๋กœ ๋๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์ฃ .
12:02
And coming back from that trip on the mountain,
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์‚ฐ์—์„œ ์งง์€ ์—ฌํ–‰์—์„œ ๋Œ์•„์˜จ
12:05
a friend of mine gave me a book that gave this whole idea a name.
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์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ๋ถ™์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฑ…์„ ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:08
In psychotherapy, there's this idea called the third,
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์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ์น˜๋ฃŒ์—์„œ๋Š”, ์ด๊ฑธ ์ œ 3์˜๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ณ ,
12:11
which essentially goes like this.
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๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:13
Typically, we think of ourselves as these autonomous units.
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ž์ฃผ์  ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋‹จ์œ„๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ฃ .
12:16
I do something to you, you do something to me.
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์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ๋„ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:19
But according to this theory, when two people come together
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ์ด๋ก ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•œ ๋ฐ ๋ชจ์—ฌ
12:22
and really commit to seeing each other,
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์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ๋งŒ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋ฉด
12:24
in that mutual act of recognition,
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์„ฑ์ˆ™ํ•œ ์ธ์ง€์˜ ํ–‰๋™์—์„œ
12:27
they actually make something new.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:29
A new entity that is their relationship.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋…๋ฆฝ์ฒด์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
12:33
You can think of Dolly's concerts as sort of a cultural third space.
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๋Œ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ฝ˜์„œํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ œ 3์˜ ๋ฌธํ™”๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด๋ผ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ฃ .
12:37
The way she sees all the different parts of her audience,
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ฒญ์ค‘๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹๊ณผ,
12:39
the way they see her,
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์ฒญ์ค‘๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์€
12:41
creates the spiritual architecture of that space.
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์ •์‹ ์ ์ธ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:45
And I think now that is my calling.
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์ „ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ ์†Œ๋ช…์ด๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:48
That as a journalist,
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๊ธฐ์ž๋กœ์„œ
12:49
as a storyteller,
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ์„œ
12:51
as just an American,
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๋‹จ์ง€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์œผ๋กœ์„œ
12:53
living in a country struggling to hold,
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์‚ถ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณ ๊ตฐ๋ถ„ํˆฌํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
12:57
that every story I tell has got to find the third.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋“ค์€ ์ œ 3์˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
13:01
That place where the things we hold as different
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๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€
13:04
resolve themselves into something new.
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ํ•ฉ์ณ์ง€๋ฉฐ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:07
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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