The new age of corporate monopolies | Margrethe Vestager

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Let's go back to 1957.
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Representatives from six European countries
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had come to Rome
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to sign the treaty that was to create the European Union.
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Europe was destroyed.
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A world war had emerged from Europe.
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The human suffering was unbelievable
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and unprecedented.
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Those men
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wanted to create a peaceful,
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democratic Europe,
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a Europe that works for its people.
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And one of the many building blocks
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in that peace project
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was a common European market.
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Already back then,
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they saw how markets,
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when left to themselves,
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can sort of slip into being just the private property
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of big businesses and cartels,
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meeting the needs of some businesses
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and not the needs of customers.
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So from our very first day,
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in 1957,
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the European Union had rules
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to defend fair competition.
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And that means competition on the merits,
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that you compete on the quality of your products,
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the prices you can offer,
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the services, the innovation that you produce.
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That's competition on the merits.
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You have a fair chance of making it on such a market.
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And it's my job,
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as Commissioner for Competition,
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to make sure that companies who do business in Europe
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live by those rules.
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But let's take a step back.
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Why do we need rules on competition at all?
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Why not just let businesses compete?
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Isn't that also the best for us
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if they compete freely,
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since more competition
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drives more quality,
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lower prices, more innovation?
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Well, mostly it is.
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But the problem is that sometimes, for businesses,
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competition can be inconvenient,
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because competition means that the race is never over,
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the game is never won.
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No matter how well you were doing in the past,
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there's always someone
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who are out there wanting to take your place.
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So the temptation to avoid competition
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is powerful.
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It's rooted in motives as old as Adam and Eve:
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in greed for yet more money,
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in fear of losing your position in the market
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and all the benefits it brings.
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And when greed and fear
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are linked to power,
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you have a dangerous mix.
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We see that in political life.
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In part of the world,
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the mix of greed and fear
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means that those who get power
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become reluctant to give it back.
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One of the many things
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I like and admire in our democracies
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are the norms
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that make our leaders hand over power
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when voters tell them to.
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And competition rules can do a similar thing in the market,
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making sure that greed and fear doesn't overcome fairness.
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Because those rules mean
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that companies cannot misuse their power to undermine competition.
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Think for a moment about your car.
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It has thousands of parts,
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from the foam that makes the seats
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to the electrical wiring to the light bulbs.
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And for many of those parts,
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the world's carmakers,
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they are dependent on only a few suppliers.
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So it's hardly surprising
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that it is kind of tempting for those suppliers
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to come together and fix prices.
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But just imagine what that could do
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to the final price of your new car in the market.
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Except, it's not imaginary.
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The European Commission
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has dealt with already seven different car parts cartels,
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and we're still investigating some.
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Here, the Department of Justice
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are also looking into the market for car parts,
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and it has called it the biggest criminal investigation
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it has ever pursued.
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But without competition rules,
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there would be no investigation,
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and there would be nothing to stop this collusion from happening
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and the prices of your car to go up.
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Yet it's not only companies
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who can undermine fair competition.
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Governments can do it, too.
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And governments do that when they hand out subsidies
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to just the favorite few, the selected.
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They may do that when they hand out subsidies --
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and, of course, all financed by taxpayers --
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to companies.
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That may be in the form of special tax treatments,
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like the tax benefits
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that firms like Fiat, Starbucks and Apple got
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from some governments in Europe.
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Those subsidies stop companies from competing on equal terms.
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They can mean that the companies that succeed,
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well, they are the companies that got the most subsidy,
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the ones that are the best-connected,
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and not, as it should be,
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the companies that serve consumers the best.
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So there are times when we need to step in
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to make sure that competition works the way it should.
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By doing that, we help the market to work fairly,
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because competition gives consumers the power to demand a fair deal.
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It means that companies know that if they cannot offer good prices
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or the service that's expected,
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well, the customers will go somewhere else.
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And that sort of fairness is more important
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than we may sometimes realize.
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Very few people think about politics all the time.
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Some even skip it at election time.
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But we are all in the market.
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Every day, we are in the market.
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And we don't want businesses to agree on prices in the back office.
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We don't want them to divide the market between them.
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We don't want one big company
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just to shut out competitors
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from ever showing us what they can do.
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If that happens,
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well, obviously, we feel that someone has cheated us,
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that we are being ignored or taken for granted by the market.
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And that may undermine not only our trust in the market
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but also our trust in the society.
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In a recent survey,
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more than two-thirds of Europeans
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said that they had felt the effects of lack of competition:
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that the price for electricity was too high,
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that the price for the medicines they needed was too high,
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that they had no real choice
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if they wanted to travel by bus or by plane,
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or they got poor service from their internet provider.
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In short, they found that the market didn't treat them fairly.
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And that might seem like very small things,
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but they can give you this sense
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that the world isn't really fair.
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And they see the market, which was supposed to serve everyone,
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become more like the private property of a few powerful companies.
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The market is not the society.
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Our societies are, of course, much, much more than the market.
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But lack of trust in the market
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can rub off on society
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so we lose trust in our society as well.
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And it may be the most important thing we have, trust.
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We can trust each other if we are treated as equals.
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If we are all to have the same chances,
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well, we all have to follow the same fundamental rules.
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Of course, some people and some businesses are more successful than others,
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but we do not trust in a society
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if the prizes are handed out
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even before the contest begins.
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And this is where competition rules come in,
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because when we make sure that markets work fairly,
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then businesses compete on the merits,
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and that helps to build the trust that we need as citizens
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to feel comfortable and in control,
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and the trust that allows our society to work.
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Because without trust, everything becomes harder.
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Just to live our daily lives, we need to trust in strangers,
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to trust the banks who keep our money,
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the builders who build our home,
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the electrician who comes to fix the wiring,
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the doctor who treats us when we're ill,
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not to mention the other drivers on the road,
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and everyone knows that they are crazy.
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And yet, we have to trust them
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to do the right thing.
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And the thing is that the more our societies grow,
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the more important trust becomes
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and the harder it is to build.
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And that is a paradox of modern societies.
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And this is especially true
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when technology changes the way that we interact.
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Of course, to some degree, technology can help us
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to build trust in one another with ratings systems and other systems
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that enable the sharing economy.
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But technology also creates completely new challenges
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when they ask us not to trust in other people
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but to trust in algorithms and computers.
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Of course, we all see and share and appreciate
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all the good that new technology can do us.
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It's a lot of good.
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Autonomous cars can give people with disabilities new independence.
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It can save us all time,
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and it can make a much, much better use of resources.
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Algorithms that rely on crunching enormous amounts of data
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can enable our doctors to give us a much better treatment,
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and many other things.
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But no one is going to hand over their medical data
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or step into a car that's driven by an algorithm
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unless they trust the companies that they are dealing with.
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And that trust isn't always there.
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Today, for example, less than a quarter of Europeans
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trust online businesses to protect their personal information.
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But what if people knew
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that they could rely on technology companies
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to treat them fairly?
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What if they knew that those companies
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respond to competition by trying to do better,
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by trying to serve consumers better,
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not by using their power
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to shut out competitors,
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say, by pushing their services
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far, far down the list of search results
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and promoting themselves?
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What if they knew that compliance with the rules
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was built into the algorithms by design,
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that the algorithm had to go to competition rules school
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before they were ever allowed to work,
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that those algorithms were designed
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in a way that meant that they couldn't collude,
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that they couldn't form their own little cartel
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in the black box they're working in?
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Together with regulation,
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competition rules can do that.
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They can help us to make sure
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that new technology treats people fairly
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and that everyone can compete on a level playing field.
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And that can help us build the trust
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that we need for real innovation
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to flourish
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and for societies to develop for citizens.
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Because trust cannot be imposed.
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It has to be earned.
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Since the very first days of the European Union,
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60 years ago,
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our competition rules have helped
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to build that trust.
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A lot of things have changed.
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It's hard to say what those six representatives
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would have made of a smartphone.
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But in today's world,
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as well as in their world,
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competition makes the market work for everyone.
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And that is why I am convinced
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that real and fair competition
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has a vital role to play
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in building the trust we need
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to get the best of our societies,
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and that starts with enforcing our rules,
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actually just to make the market work for everyone.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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Bruno Giussani: Thank you.
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Thank you, Commissioner.
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Margrethe Vestager: It was a pleasure.
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BG: I want to ask you two questions.
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The first one is about data, because I have the impression
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that technology and data are changing the way competition takes place
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and the way competition regulation is designed and enforced.
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Can you maybe comment on that?
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MV: Well, yes, it is definitely challenging us,
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because we both have to sharpen our tools
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but also to develop new tools.
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When we were going through the Google responses
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to our statement of objection,
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we were going through 5.2 terabytes of data.
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It's quite a lot.
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So we had to set up new systems.
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We had to figure out how to do this,
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because you cannot work the way you did just a few years ago.
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So we are definitely sharpening up our working methods.
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The other thing is that we try to distinguish
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between different kinds of data,
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because some data is extremely valuable
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and they will form, like, a barrier to entry in a market.
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Other things you can just -- it loses its value tomorrow.
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So we try to make sure
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that we never, ever underestimate the fact
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that data works as a currency in the market
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and as an asset that can be a real barrier for competition.
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BG: Google. You fined them 2.8 billion euros a few months ago.
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MV: No, that was dollars. It's not so strong these days.
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BG: Ah, well, depends on the --
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(Laughter)
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Google appealed the case. The case is going to court.
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It will last a while.
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Earlier, last year, you asked Apple to pay 13 billion in back taxes,
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and you have also investigated other companies,
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including European and Russian companies,
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not only American companies, by far.
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Yet the investigations against the American companies
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are the ones that have attracted the most attention
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and they have also attracted some accusations.
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You have been accused, essentially, of protectionism, of jealousy,
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or using legislation to hit back at American companies
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that have conquered European markets.
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"The Economist" just this week on the front page writes,
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"Vestager Versus The Valley."
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How do you react to that?
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MV: Well, first of all, I take it very seriously,
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because bias has no room in law enforcement.
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We have to prove our cases with the evidence and the facts
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and the jurisprudence
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in order also to present it to the courts.
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The second thing is that Europe is open for business,
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but not for tax evasion.
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(Applause)
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The thing is that we are changing,
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and for instance, when I ask my daughters --
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they use Google as well --
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"Why do you do that?"
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They say, "Well, because it works. It's a very good product."
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They would never, ever, come up with the answer,
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"It's because it's a US product."
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It's just because it works.
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And that is of course how it should be.
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But just the same, it is important that someone is looking after to say,
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"Well, we congratulate you
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while you grow and grow and grow,
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but congratulation stops
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if we find that you're misusing your position
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to harm competitors so that they cannot serve consumers."
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BG: It will be a fascinating case to follow.
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Thank you for coming to TED.
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MV: It was a pleasure. Thanks a lot.
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(Applause)
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