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English Addict with Mr Duncan


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

03:43
You might not believe it, but we have had some really terrible weather over the past few days.
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๋ฏฟ๊ธฐ์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ฉฐ์น  ๋™์•ˆ ์ •๋ง ๋”์ฐํ•œ ๋‚ ์”จ๋ฅผ ๊ฒช์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:50
Even though right now, outside, you can see the sun is shining.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ๋ฐ–์—๋„ ํƒœ์–‘์ด ๋น›๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:55
We even have blue sky.
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ํ‘ธ๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋Š˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:57
Can you believe it?
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๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
03:59
Well, you have to, because there it is on your screen right now.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ํ™”๋ฉด์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:05
We are all together once again.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:06
It's lovely to have your company this is English Addict coming to you live and direct from the birthplace of the English language.
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English Addict๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด์˜ ํƒ„์ƒ์ง€์—์„œ ์ง์ ‘ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ์ง์ ‘ ์ฐพ์•„์™€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:18
You know where it is.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋””์— ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:19
We all know where it is.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋””์— ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:21
It is, of course, England.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์˜๊ตญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:42
Let's go.
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๊ฐ‘์‹œ๋‹ค.
04:47
Oh, there you are.
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ตฐ์š”.
04:48
Hi, everybody.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„.
04:49
This is Mr.
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์ด ๋ถ„์€
04:50
Duncan in England. How are you today? Are you okay? I hope so. Are you happy?
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์˜๊ตญ์˜ ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์–ด๋– ์„ธ์š”? ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์œผ์„ธ์š”? ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
04:55
Are you feeling happy today?
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹๋‚˜์š”?
04:57
I hope you are.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:58
I have one of these on my face right now.
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๋‚ด ์–ผ๊ตด์—๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:03
This is the real one.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง„์งœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:04
This is the one that I like to use to encourage you to have a smile.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฏธ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์ง€์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
Because that is what life is all about.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ์ „๋ถ€์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:14
Sometimes as we go through life, we have to have a little bit of fun.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์žฌ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋А๊ปด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:21
Because what is life without a smile, without a laugh, without a nice warm hug?
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๋ฏธ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์—†๊ณ , ์›ƒ์Œ์ด ์—†๊ณ , ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•œ ํฌ์˜น์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ธ์ƒ์ด๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
05:29
Think of this as a nice warm hug through the internet.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์„ ํ†ตํ•œ ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•œ ํฌ์˜น์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
05:35
My name is Mr. Duncan.
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์ œ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
I live in England.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜๊ตญ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:38
I think I've mentioned that already and I am an English addict.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:45
Just as it says down there on the screen.
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ํ™”๋ฉด ์•„๋ž˜์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋œ ๋Œ€๋กœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:48
I hope you are having a good Sunday. Also, I suppose I should say
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์ข‹์€ ์ผ์š”์ผ ๋ณด๋‚ด์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
05:55
Happy New Year if I haven't said it to you yet.
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์•„์ง ์ƒˆํ•ด ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ „ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ƒˆํ•ด ๋ณต ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ›์œผ์„ธ์š”
06:02
Of course, if I've already said it, please disregard my greeting.
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๋ผ๊ณ  ์ธ์‚ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋ฌผ๋ก , ์ด๋ฏธ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ œ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋ฌด์‹œํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
06:08
If you disregard something, it means you ignore it.
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฌด์‹œํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฌด์‹œํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:13
You push that thing aside, you disregard that particular thing.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ œ์ณ๋‘๊ณ  ๊ทธ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฌด์‹œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:21
So if I have already said Happy New Year to you, you do not have to worry about it.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ƒˆํ•ด ๋ณต ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ›์œผ์„ธ์š”๋ผ๊ณ  ์ธ์‚ฌํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ์…”๋„ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:27
You don't have to wave to me or give me a big kiss on the nose.
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๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์†์„ ํ”๋“ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฝ”์— ํฐ ํ‚ค์Šค๋ฅผ ํ•  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:33
Nothing like that. Please disregard my greeting.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑด ์—†์–ด์š”. ๋‚ด ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ง์„ ๋ฌด์‹œํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
06:38
However, if I haven't said it, can I wish you a lovely superduper 2025.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์ง ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด 2025๋…„ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์Šˆํผ๋“€ํผ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์›ํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
06:45
We are here again once more.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:48
We are back together and I hope you have had a lovely, lovely week whilst I've been away.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ชจ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ํ•œ ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด์…จ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:57
Did you see my new lesson?
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๋‚ด ์ƒˆ ์ˆ˜์—… ๋ดค์–ด?
07:00
I filmed a lesson during the week
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์˜ฌํ•ด ๋“ค์–ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ถ”์šด ๋‚ ,
07:05
on the coldest day of the year so far.
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์ฃผ์ค‘์— ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์ดฌ์˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
07:10
In fact, it may have been the coldest day of this winter.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์˜ฌ ๊ฒจ์šธ ๋“ค์–ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ถ”์šด ๋‚ ์ด์—ˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:16
Minus six that is six degrees below zero.
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์˜ํ•˜ 6๋„์ธ ๋งˆ์ด๋„ˆ์Šค 6์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:22
It was absolutely freezing.
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์ •๋ง ์ถ”์› ์–ด์š”.
07:25
Did you see my lesson all about the word freeze?
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๋™๊ฒฐ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œ ๊ฐ•์˜๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ณด์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
07:30
And quite literally, I was freezing.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ €๋Š” ์–ผ์–ด๋ถ™์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:37
Certain parts of my body were really suffering.
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๋‚ด ๋ชธ์˜ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์ •๋ง ๊ณ ํ†ต์Šค๋Ÿฌ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:41
I won't tell you which parts or where they were, but let's just say they were not
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์–ด๋–ค ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€, ์–ด๋””์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ 
07:50
having a good time.
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์žˆ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ๋งŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:51
Some of those things were actually quite shrivelled.
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. ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ชผ๊ทธ๋ผ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:55
Shrivelled. Now there's another good word already.
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์ชผ๊ธ€์ชผ๊ธ€. ์ด์ œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข‹์€ ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:59
You will notice that I like using interesting English words, something that is shrivelled.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์˜์–ด ๋‹จ์–ด, ์ฆ‰ ์˜ค๊ทธ๋ผ๋“  ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:09
If it shrivels, it means it shrinks.
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์ชผ๊ธ€์ชผ๊ธ€ํ•ด์ง„๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ชผ๊ทธ๋ผ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ด๋‹ค.
08:14
It becomes much smaller than it normally is.
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ํ‰์†Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ž‘์•„์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:18
It shrivels.
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์˜ค๊ทธ๋ผ๋“ค์–ด์š”.
08:21
Parts of your body might shrivel
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์ถ”์šด ๋‚ ์—๋Š”
08:25
on a cold day.
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์‹ ์ฒด ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๊ทธ๋ผ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:27
Certain types of food, if you leave it out, it will shrivel.
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. ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์Œ์‹์€ ๋†”๋‘๋ฉด ์ชผ๊ธ€์ชผ๊ธ€ํ•ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:33
It will become dry, and it will shrink away to nothing.
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๋งˆ๋ฅด๊ณ , ๋ง๋ผ์„œ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฆฌ๋ผ.
08:39
I know that feeling very well.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์„ ์•„์ฃผ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
08:41
You may have noticed that I'm wearing my scarf in the studio just to demonstrate how cold the weather is at the moment.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‚ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ถ”์šด์ง€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์Šค์นดํ”„๋ฅผ ๋‘๋ฅด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ๋ˆˆ์น˜์ฑ˜์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:53
Although, having said that, we do have sunshine and the lovely weather.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํ–‡์‚ด๊ณผ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๋‚ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:59
People have promised that the weather is going to get better during the week.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ฃผ์ค‘์— ๋‚ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์•ฝ์†ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:05
So next week it is going to get warm again.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹ค์Œ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•ด์ง€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:09
Isn't that lovely?
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์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
09:11
I should not forget you.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:13
Don't worry, I will say hello to you in a moment. Out there.
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๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์ž ์‹œ ํ›„์— ์ธ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ–์— ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
09:17
Of course it is Sunday, which means that we have the one.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์ผ์š”์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์š”์ผ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:21
The only, Mr.
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์œ ์ผํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ
09:23
Steve, will be with us at around about 2:30.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ๊ฐ€ 2์‹œ 30๋ถ„์ฏค์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:29
We had a busy week last
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์ง€๋‚œ
09:30
week because we had to go to have our medical check-ups
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์ฃผ์—๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ฒ€์ง„์„ ๋ฐ›์œผ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฐ”์œ ํ•œ ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:37
lots of boring information that I could give you at the moment, but I'm not going to.
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. ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ์€ ๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ง€๋ฃจํ•œ ์ •๋ณด๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:42
It's all connected to things like insurance and other things like that.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ณดํ—˜์ด๋‚˜ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:46
Quite often you have to you have to undertake some sort of medical examination.
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ฒ€์ง„์„ ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:52
That doesn't mean that we we are training to be doctors.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ›ˆ๋ จ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:57
So you might say that a medical exam sounds as if we are studying to be doctors, but we are not.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์‹ ์ฒด๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์น˜ ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:06
So the medical exam was actually on us.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ฒ€์ง„์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:11
We might talk a little bit about that later on when Mr.
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— Steve ์”จ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:16
Steve joins us.
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.
10:18
He was out this morning having a walk.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์•„์นจ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ๋‚˜๊ฐ”๋‹ค.
10:22
We had a lovely walk yesterday.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด์ œ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:25
We were outside.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ–์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:27
It was freezing cold, but as you know, I love filming everything around me and yesterday was no exception.
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๋‚ ์”จ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ถ”์› ์ง€๋งŒ, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š” ์ฃผ๋ณ€์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์–ด์ œ๋„ ์˜ˆ์™ธ๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:37
Take a look at what we saw yesterday whilst walking around on our freezing cold walk around the area in which I live.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์„ ๊ฝ๊ฝ ์–ผ์–ด๋ถ™๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์ถ”์šด ์‚ฐ์ฑ…๊ธธ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋‹๋ฉด์„œ ์–ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
13:00
We had the most amazing walk yesterday.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด์ œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:03
It was freezing cold, but everything around us was beautiful.
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๋‚ ์”จ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ถ”์› ์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:08
And see you, Nick.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋˜ ๋ด์š”, ๋‹‰.
13:10
I have to say, it did look lovely.
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์ •๋ง ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ ๋ณด์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:14
Yes, I know, I forgot to open my microphone.
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๋„ค, ์•Œ์•„์š”. ๋งˆ์ดํฌ ์—ฌ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊นœ๋นกํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:17
Then you might find that I will be doing that quite a lot today.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ๊ฝค ๋งŽ์ด ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:22
Because I've had such a busy day today. Very, very busy.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ”์œ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ฃผ ์•„์ฃผ ๋ฐ”๋น ์š”.
13:27
I hope you are having a good time as well.
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๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:30
Can I say hello to the live chat?
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์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์œผ๋กœ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ ค๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
13:31
Hello live chat.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š” ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:33
Nice to see you here. Congratulations to Beatriz Beatriz.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š”. Beatriz Beatriz์—๊ฒŒ ์ถ•ํ•˜๋ฅผ ์ „ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:39
Guess what?
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13:39
You are first on today's live chat.
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์ถ”์ธกํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์— ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:50
Beatriz, you are first on today's live chat.
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Beatriz๋‹˜, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ฃผ์ธ๊ณต์ด์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:54
Congratulations.
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์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ด์š”.
13:55
And I hope you are feeling good today.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:59
In second place, we have Vytas. Hello, Vytas. Nice to see you here as well.
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๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ Vytas๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ๋น„ํƒ€์Šค๋‹˜. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ๋„ ๋ต™๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:05
Vytas is with us also.
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Vytas๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:08
And yes, he is here as usual.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ‰์†Œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:12
You know who I'm talking about? Luis Mendes.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์•„์„ธ์š”? ๋ฃจ์ด์Šค ๋ฉ˜๋ฐ์Šค.
14:17
is here today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
14:18
Hello, Luis.
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์•ˆ๋…•, ๋ฃจ์ด์Šค.
14:20
I hope you are feeling better because I know last weekend you were under the weather.
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์ง€๋‚œ ์ฃผ๋ง์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋‚˜์•„์กŒ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:26
I hope today you are feeling much better, much brighter.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ข‹์•„์ง€๊ณ  ๋ฐ์•„์กŒ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:31
And I hope you are in the mood for English addict.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:36
Claudia is here.
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ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋””์•„๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
14:38
Hello, Claudia.
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์•ˆ๋…•, ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋””์•„.
14:39
Hello. Also unique way.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๋ฐฉ์‹๋„ ๋…ํŠนํ•˜๋‹ค.
14:41
Nice to see you with us as well.
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๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š”.
14:44
We also have Florence Bella. Hello, Bella.
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ํ”Œ๋กœ๋ Œ์Šค ๋ฒจ๋ผ๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์•ˆ๋…•, ๋ฒจ๋ผ.
14:49
It is a very long time since I saw you on the live chat.
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์ •๋ง ์˜ค๋žœ๋งŒ์— ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์œผ๋กœ ๋ต™๋„ค์š”.
14:54
It is very nice to see you back.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ต™๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:56
Jamie is here.
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์ œ์ด๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
14:58
Jamie Bolivar says hello to everybody.
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Jamie Bolivar๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:03
That is very friendly of you. Thank you very much.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง ์นœ์ ˆํ•ด์š”. ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:06
Also we have Marut SEO.
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๋˜ํ•œ Marut SEO๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:09
Hello to you as well.
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๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
15:12
Palmira is here as well.
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ํŒ”๋ฏธ๋ผ๋„ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:15
Hello.
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15:15
I and z I in Z or ion Z.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
I์™€ z I in Z ๋˜๋Š” ion Z.
15:20
Hello to Mr. Duncan. That's me, by the way.
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์•ผ.
15:24
Just in case you're wondering, ring Sak is here.
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ํ˜น์‹œ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•˜์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”? Ring Sak์ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:28
I haven't seen you for a long time as well.
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๋‚˜๋„ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:33
Nice to see you back. We also have.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:37
Pedro Belmont is here today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ Pedro Belmont๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:40
Hello, Pedro.
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์•ˆ๋…•, ํŽ˜๋“œ๋กœ.
15:41
Nice to see you back. Also.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š”. ๋˜ํ•œ.
15:43
Christina is here. Oh, hello, Christina.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์•„, ์•ˆ๋…•, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‚˜.
15:48
Can I say a big thank you?
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์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ค๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
15:51
We had a nice surprise yesterday morning.
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์–ด์ œ ์•„์นจ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ผ์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:54
It came through our letterbox.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์šฐํŽธํ•จ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:57
Thank you very much for your lovely Christmas card.
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:00
All the way from lovely Italy.
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์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์—์„œ ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:03
Isn't that lovely?
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์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
16:04
And there is Father Christmas
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋‚˜๋ˆ ์ฃผ๋Š”
16:08
putting out the gifts for the children.
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์„ฑํƒ„์ ˆ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
16:11
So thank you, Christina, for your lovely card and the beautiful greeting inside as well.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‚˜๋‹˜, ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์นด๋“œ์™€ ์•ˆ์— ๋‹ด๊ธด ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ง๋„ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:18
Mr. Steve and myself, we were very moved by your lovely thought.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ์™€ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ํฐ ๊ฐ๋™์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:23
Thank you.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:24
Hello, Edwin. Mr. Duncan, you are such a great teacher.
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์•ˆ๋…•, ์—๋“œ์œˆ. ๋˜์ปจ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:28
I am learning a lot from you.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:29
Thank you. Edwin, that is very kind of you to say as well.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—๋“œ์œˆ ์”จ, ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ์นœ์ ˆํ•ด์š”.
16:34
Where are you watching? Please let me know. Edwin, where are you watching at the moment?
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์–ด๋””์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ์—๋“œ์œˆ, ์ง€๊ธˆ ์–ด๋””๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
16:41
Who else is here?
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
16:42
Farid boules is here also.
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Farid boules๋„ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:46
We have. Who else is here?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
16:49
Ring sack is here as well.
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๋ง ์ž๋ฃจ๋„ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:51
Nice to see you back.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ€์›Œ์š”.
16:53
Lots of people joining us today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:55
Virginia. Hello, Virginia and drone.
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์—ฌ์ž ์ด๋ฆ„. ์•ˆ๋…•, ๋ฒ„์ง€๋‹ˆ์•„์™€ ๋“œ๋ก .
17:00
I've never seen your name on the live chat before.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:04
Can you please tell me where you are watching? For two reasons.
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์–ด๋””์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:09
It is very interesting to find out.
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์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:12
And also I am very, very nosy.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ์ฐธ๊ฒฌ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:16
I always like to find out these things.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:20
Today we have some very interesting topics to talk about.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:24
We are talking about being famous,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ๋ช…์„ฑ์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—
17:28
having fame, being a celebrity.
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๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:33
A lot of people think that being famous is a good thing.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:37
Quite often we see people who are famous as having glamorous lives.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ™”๋ คํ•œ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฝค โ€‹โ€‹์ž์ฃผ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:44
However, it is not always the case.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:48
As you may have seen at the past few days.
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์ง€๋‚œ ๋ฉฐ์น  ๋™์•ˆ ๋ณด์…จ๋“ฏ์ด์š”.
17:50
Lots of celebrities, lots of famous people are having a pretty terrible time at the moment because of
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๋กœ์Šค์•ค์ ค๋ ˆ์Šค ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ํ™”์žฌ
17:58
lots of the fires that have broken out around Los Angeles, so a lot of people at the moment are suffering, even the famous people.
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๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์‚ฌ, ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋งค์šฐ ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์‚ฌ๋“ค๋„ ๊ณ ํ†ต๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:09
So even though a person is famous and they are probably quite rich, it doesn't mean that life is going to be easy.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋น„๋ก ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฝค ๋ถ€์ž์ผ์ง€๋ผ๋„ ์‚ถ์ด ํŽธํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:19
It doesn't mean that they're going to have an easy life.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํŽธ์•ˆํ•œ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:22
Their life will not always be simple and smooth. In fact, sometimes
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ถ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•˜๊ณ  ์ˆœํƒ„ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์‹ค
18:28
being famous can bring its own problems.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ž์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:34
Problems that you didn't have before being famous can do that.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ ์ „์—๋Š” ์—†๋˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค.
18:40
So we are looking at that later.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:42
We are talking about fame and misfortune.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ช…์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋ถˆํ–‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:47
A lot of people say fame and fortune because people always assume if you are famous, you must also have a good life.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ช…์„ฑ๊ณผ ์žฌ์‚ฐ์„ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด ์ข‹์€ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด์•„์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:57
However, as I said a few moments ago, if you are a celebrity, if you are famous,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ „์— ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์—ฐ์˜ˆ์ธ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด
19:05
sometimes things can go quite bad, to be honest with you.
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์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๊ฝค ์•ˆ ์ข‹์•„์งˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:12
Smartie.
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์Šค๋งˆํ‹ฐ.
19:13
Hello Smartie, can you please say hi to Sarvesh and Hanyu?
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š” Smartie ๋‹˜, Sarvesh์™€ Hanyu์—๊ฒŒ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
19:20
Hello Sarvesh.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š” ์‚ฌ๋ฅด๋ฒ ์‰ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:22
Hello also to Hanyu as well.
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ํ•œ์œ ๋‹˜๋„ ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
19:25
Thank you very much for watching.
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์‹œ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋Œ€๋‹จํžˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:27
I have a feeling you are there at the moment.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋А๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:31
Are you in India?
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์ธ๋„์— ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
19:33
Because I have lots of lovely new viewers watching right now in India.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์ธ๋„์—์„œ ์ €๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
19:39
So it is nice to have you here
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š”
19:44
that says I want to be rich, but I don't want to be famous.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
19:49
You might be surprised to find out that quite a few people who become famous actually hate being famous.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง„ ์ƒ๋‹น์ˆ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๋ฉด ๋†€๋ž„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:59
They don't like it.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:00
So even though you have a fairly comfortable life, because we often think if you are famous,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฝค ํŽธ์•ˆํ•œ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„, ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด
20:07
then your life must be comfortable and glamorous.
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์‚ถ์€ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ณ  ํ™”๋ คํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ”ํžˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:11
You will always be invited to lots of lovely parties, and quite often you will meet other famous people.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์— ์ดˆ๋Œ€๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:21
But sometimes having fame can be a negative thing.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ช…์„ฑ์„ ์–ป๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:27
Not everyone wants to be famous and sometimes it is possible to become famous even though you don't want to be.
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉฐ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋”๋ผ๋„ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:38
We will look at all of those things later on.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:43
Here is some interesting information at the moment for all of you sports fans watching, especially those
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์ฒญ ์ค‘์ธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์Šคํฌ์ธ  ํŒฌ, ํŠนํžˆ
20:53
who like playing tennis or watching tennis at the moment
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ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์น˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ์Šค ๊ด€๋žŒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ •๋ณด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
20:59
in Australia, the tennis season is now underway in Melbourne.
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. ํ˜„์žฌ ํ˜ธ์ฃผ์—์„œ๋Š” ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ์Šค ์‹œ์ฆŒ์ด ๋ฉœ๋ฒ„๋ฅธ์—์„œ ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:05
Yes, the Australian Open is now underway.
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๋„ค, ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ˜ธ์ฃผ์˜คํ”ˆ์ด ์ง„ํ–‰ ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:11
Talking of which.
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์–ด๋А ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:26
So for all those who love tennis.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ถ„๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด.
22:28
That was especially for you.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํŠนํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:48
English addict is with you today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:52
I hope you are having a super duper Sunday.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ผ์š”์ผ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:56
Wherever you are in the world. I hope it is going well.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์–ด๋””์— ์žˆ๋“ . ์ž˜ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:01
Can I say hello once again to Beatrice?
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๋ฒ ์•„ํŠธ๋ฆฌ์ฒด์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
23:04
Beatrice, I believe I have heard through the grapevine
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๋ฒ ์•„ํŠธ๋ฆฌ์ฒด ์”จ, ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ชธ ์ƒํƒœ๊ฐ€ ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ์†Œ์‹์„ ์†Œ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ
23:11
that you are not feeling very well at the moment, so can I wish you a speedy recovery.
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, ๋น ๋ฅธ ์พŒ์œ ๋ฅผ ๋น•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:16
I think it has something to do with your back,
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ํ—ˆ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ,
23:20
something I can sympathise with because quite often I have difficulty and problems with my stupid back.
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๋ฉ์ฒญํ•œ ํ—ˆ๋ฆฌ์— ์–ด๋ ค์›€๊ณผ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ณต๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:31
My reason, of course, is because I'm tall and apparently as you get older, if you are tall and I am very tall,
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ œ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ‚ค๊ฐ€ ํฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํ‚ค๊ฐ€ ํฌ๋ฉด
23:39
you can get lots of back problems and pain as you get older, unfortunately.
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๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก ํ—ˆ๋ฆฌ์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ํ†ต์ฆ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ƒ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:46
So I hope you are feeling better soon. Beatrice.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์•„์ง€์…จ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒ ์•„ํŠธ๋ฆฌ์ฒด.
23:49
Take it easy.
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์ง„์ •ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
23:50
Keep that sensitive area warm
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์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•œ ๋ถ€์œ„๋ฅผ ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜์„ธ์š”
23:56
one way or another.
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.
23:58
Keep it nice and comfortable and warm.
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๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ณ  ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
24:01
So some people say if you have back pain, you should put something warm on the area.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ—ˆ๋ฆฌ ํ†ต์ฆ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ๋ถ€์œ„์— ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ ค ๋†“์•„์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:08
However, other people say that for certain types of back pain, you should actually use something very cold like ice.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํŠน์ • ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ํ—ˆ๋ฆฌ ํ†ต์ฆ์—๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์–ผ์Œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋งค์šฐ ์ฐจ๊ฐ€์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:17
So I think it depends on what type of back pain you have,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํ—ˆ๋ฆฌ ํ†ต์ฆ์˜ ์œ ํ˜•์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:23
but I hope you are feeling very well and very much better real soon.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์•„์ง€๊ณ  ๊ณง ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ข‹์•„์ง€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:30
Mr. Steve is just four minutes away, which gives me a little bit of time to talk about an interesting English word.
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Mr. Steve๋Š” ๋‹จ 4๋ถ„ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์— ์žˆ์–ด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์˜์–ด ๋‹จ์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:40
As you know, I love English very much.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š” ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:42
You might say that I am definitely an English addict.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:46
Here is an interesting word I heard this used the other day.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ์ „์— ๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:51
I heard this word mentioned and it was all connected to people
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘
24:58
in authority, people who have a certain type of power.
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๊ถŒ์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ํŠน์ • ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:04
And this can be anything really.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:06
Maybe a person in your office, maybe a person who is your supervisor or your boss.
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ƒ์‚ฌ๋‚˜ ์ƒ์‚ฌ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:15
Everyone can have some type of power,
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ๊ณผ
25:20
authority.
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๊ถŒ์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:22
That's a great word. By the way.
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์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ง์ด๊ตฐ์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ.
25:24
When we look at the word authority, we are talking about a person who has a certain amount of power,
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๊ถŒ์œ„๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„์˜ ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ,
25:31
and quite often a person with power or authority might sometimes
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๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ถŒ์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
25:39
be harsh to treat someone cruelly
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ž”์ธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š”
25:45
an action.
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ํ–‰๋™์„
25:46
So the word harsh is actually an adjective,
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๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ์ข…์ข… ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:52
an action involving cruelty to be cruel, to be brutal,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ˜•์šฉ์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ž”์ธํ•จ , ์ž”์ธํ•จ, ์ž”์ธํ•จ, ์ž”์ธํ•จ,
26:00
to to be severe with someone.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์—„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋‹ค.
26:04
So if you are severe with a person, you are treating them in a harsh way.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์—„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:12
We are using that word as an adjective to be severe with someone or something.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์—„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ํ˜•์šฉ์‚ฌ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:19
So perhaps you are being harsh with your motorbike or your car because it won't start in the morning.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„์นจ์— ์‹œ๋™์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์˜คํ† ๋ฐ”์ด๋‚˜ ์ž๋™์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:28
You might thump the car, you might kick your motorbike.
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์ฐจ๋ฅผ ์„ธ๊ฒŒ ์น  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์˜คํ† ๋ฐ”์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ๋กœ ์ฐจ๋ฒ„๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:35
You are being harsh with that thing.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•œ ํƒœ๋„๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:39
Something unpleasant to the senses, something you can hear.
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๊ฐ๊ฐ์— ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ, ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ.
26:45
For example, a sound
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์†Œ๋ฆฌ
26:49
can be harsh.
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๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:51
Something that is unpleasant to the senses.
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๊ฐ๊ฐ์— ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ.
26:55
So maybe a sound, maybe Mr.
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
26:58
Steve is warming up his voice.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋‹ค๋“ฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:03
Sometimes the sound can be harsh.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ์น ์–ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:08
Please don't tell him I said that. Please don't.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
27:12
He will silk for the rest of the day so a sound can be harsh.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ์น ์–ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ๋™์•ˆ ์‹คํฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋น„์›ƒ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:18
Maybe colours or light can be harsh.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์ƒ‰์ƒ์ด๋‚˜ ๋น›์ด ๊ฑฐ์น  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:23
So lighting that is too bright.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์กฐ๋ช…์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:27
We can say that the light is harsh.
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๋น›์ด ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:31
It is too much.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:33
Your senses do not like it.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:37
Harsh can also be used in noun form and the noun form of harsh is harshness.
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Harsh๋Š” ๋ช…์‚ฌ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ๋„ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•œ ๋ช…์‚ฌ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋Š” ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:46
Harshness is the noun form of harsh.
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๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•จ์€ ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•จ์˜ ๋ช…์‚ฌ ํ˜•ํƒœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:52
A person might be known for their harshness.
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ ธ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:56
A cruel person will use harshness as a form of control.
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์ž”์ธํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ํ†ต์ œ์˜ ํ•œ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•จ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:02
That person's methods are harsh
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด
28:07
as an adjective,
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ํ˜•์šฉ์‚ฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•˜๊ธฐ
28:09
so the word harsh is the adjective to show cruelty or brutality.
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์€ ์ž”์ธํ•จ, ์ž”ํ˜นํ•จ์„ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ด๋Š” ํ˜•์šฉ์‚ฌ์ด๋‹ค.
28:16
And of course, harshness is the noun form that is showing
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก , ๊ฐ€ํ˜นํ•จ์€ ๊ทธ ํŠน์ • ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ข…์ข… ์ž”์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ๋น„์—ดํ•จ์„
28:22
that that particular person is often cruel and mean.
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๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ช…์‚ฌ ํ˜•ํƒœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
28:28
So people with authority.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ถŒ์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค.
28:30
Now I in my life I have had some situations where I've come face to face with authority.
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์ด์ œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ถŒ์œ„์™€ ๋งˆ์ฃผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:40
We often think of the police.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์„ ๋– ์˜ฌ๋ฆฐ๋‹ค.
28:42
I have never been in trouble with the police.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๊ณผ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ผ์œผํ‚จ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:48
I've never been arrested, and I've never been in trouble with the police.
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์ €๋Š” ์ฒดํฌ๋œ ์ ๋„ ์—†๊ณ  ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ๊ณผ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ผ์œผํ‚จ ์ ๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:52
However, sometimes I do have a problem with certain types of authority.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ํŠน์ • ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ๊ถŒํ•œ์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:59
Normally, when I return back from a holiday, quite often when I'm going through the airport with my suitcase,
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๋ณดํ†ต ํœด๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ณ  ๋Œ์•„์˜ฌ ๋•Œ, ์—ฌํ–‰๊ฐ€๋ฐฉ์„ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๊ณตํ•ญ์„ ํ†ต๊ณผํ•  ๋•Œ,
29:09
feeling very happy with myself, feeling really pleased because I'm back from my holiday,
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๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ณ , ํœด๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ณ  ๋Œ์•„์™”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์œผ๋กœ ๊ณตํ•ญ์„ ํ†ต๊ณผํ•  ๋•Œ,
29:19
quite often a person will
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๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
29:21
come up to me, normally a person in a uniform, and they will say, excuse me sir,
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๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ œ๋ณต์„ ์ž…์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ '์‹ค๋ก€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค,
29:27
would you mind following me to that room over there?
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์ €๋ฅผ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ € ๋ฐฉ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?' ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:33
And this happens quite often and I don't know why.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ž์ฃผ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:36
So quite often I am stopped by customs or the security customs in an airport,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ณตํ•ญ ์„ธ๊ด€์ด๋‚˜ ๋ณด์•ˆ ์„ธ๊ด€์— ๋“ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:45
and they will often take me into another room and ask me questions and have a look inside my hand luggage.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ข…์ข… ์ €๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€์„œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ œ ๊ธฐ๋‚ด ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋ฌผ ์•ˆ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:55
This has happened many times.
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์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฒˆ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:57
Not just once, not twice, but many times.
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ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฒˆ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
30:02
And I don't know why.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์™œ์ธ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:05
Why do people keep stopping me
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์™œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
30:08
at the airport to search my luggage and ask me questions?
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๊ณตํ•ญ์—์„œ ๊ณ„์† ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ฉˆ์ถฐ ์„œ์„œ ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋ฌผ์„ ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”?
30:14
Do I look like a person?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด๋‚˜์š”?
30:18
Who might do something illegal like that?
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•์ ์ธ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
30:22
Of course not.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:24
Of course not.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:25
Mr. Steve is on his way. We are looking at fame.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ค‘์ด์—์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ช…์„ฑ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:29
We are also looking at a very serious topic.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:33
Today we are taking a look at scams.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:39
What is a scam?
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
30:41
Find out later on. We will be looking at that subject.
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์•Œ์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:46
It isn't a very happy subject, but I'm sure we can still have some fun even with that.
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๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:53
Okay everyone, he's on his way. He's coming.
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์ข‹์•„์š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์˜จ๋‹ค.
30:57
You don't have to wait any longer.
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๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆด ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:58
Mr. Steve is on his way. To.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ค‘์ด์—์š”. ์—๊ฒŒ.
34:06
Iโ€™m a big boy now.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด์ œ ๋‹ค ์ปธ๋‹ค.
34:31
English addict is with you today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:34
I hope you are having a good day.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ข‹์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:38
And I think your day is about to get much better than it is right now.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‚˜์•„์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:44
Because he is on his way.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ค‘์ด๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
34:46
A lot of people ask, Mr. Duncan, can we please have Mr.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด Duncan ์”จ์—๊ฒŒ
34:50
Steve at the start of the live stream?
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๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ ์‹œ์ž‘ ์‹œ Steve ์”จ๋ฅผ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:53
Well, all I can say is you are lucky to get him even at this point in time, because he is a man who always has something to do.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด ์‹œ์ ์—๋„ ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ์žก์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ํ–‰์šด์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•  ์ผ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:04
In fact, he has some extra jobs that he has to do now because.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ž‘์—…์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:13
I will tell him in a moment.
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์ž ์‹œ ํ›„์— ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:15
Here he comes.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์˜จ๋‹ค.
35:16
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it is the one. The only.
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์‹ ์‚ฌ ์ˆ™๋…€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์†Œ๋…„ ์†Œ๋…€๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ ์ผํ•œ.
35:21
Mr. Steam.
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์ŠคํŒ€ ์”จ.
35:26
Hello. Wonderful. Beautiful viewers from across the globe.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์•„์ฃผ ๋ฉ‹์ง„. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„.
35:30
Here we all are again on Sunday afternoon, trying to get you to improve your English.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ์ผ์š”์ผ ์˜คํ›„์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ชจ์—ฌ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์˜์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:37
That's our.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์•ผ.
35:38
That's our mandate.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ž„๋ฌด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:40
Is a good word for you. Mandate?
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์œ„์ž„?
35:42
And you can look that up.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐพ์•„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:46
And we want to have a bit of fun and laughter as well.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์™€ ์›ƒ์Œ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:50
Not too serious.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:52
And, of course, I'm Mr. Duncan's assistant. If you haven't seen me before.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ €๋Š” ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ์˜ ์กฐ์ˆ˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „์— ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด.
35:56
Well, I say assistant, but really? Really, I'm in charge.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์กฐ์ˆ˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ •๋ง์š”? ์ •๋ง๋กœ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ฑ…์ž„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
36:00
No, I'm only joking. But as usual, we've got lots of interesting things to talk about.
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๋†๋‹ด์ด์—์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ‰์†Œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:06
I want to say hello to Beatrice, because apparently I've been reading on the live chat.
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๋ฒ ์•„ํŠธ๋ฆฌ์ฒด์—๊ฒŒ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์š”. ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์—์„œ ์ฝ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
36:12
She's not very well today. No.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ชธ์ด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
36:14
She's got sciatic pain, which is a pain you get.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ขŒ๊ณจ ํ†ต์ฆ์„ ์•“๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ฒช๋Š” ํ†ต์ฆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:18
I think it's nerves in your back.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ํ—ˆ๋ฆฌ์— ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„.
36:21
It is. It's a it's to do with this back pain that you get from a nerve.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๋Š” ํ—ˆ๋ฆฌ ํ†ต์ฆ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:25
My mother used to suffer from that. And then she used to have to go to bed.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ณ ์ƒํ•˜์…จ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ž ์ž๋ฆฌ์— ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:28
So we wish you better.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋” ๋‚˜์•„์ง€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:30
And I hope Lewis is better because he had a bad cold, I think, last week. Yes.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฃจ์ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚œ์ฃผ์— ์‹ฌํ•œ ๊ฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฑธ๋ ธ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋” ๋‚˜์•„์กŒ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
36:34
I don't like to hear of our lovely viewers feeling unwell.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž๋“ค์ด ๋ชธ์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ์†Œ์‹์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:40
Only we are allowed to be ill.
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์˜ค์ง ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ์ด ์•„ํ”Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:43
Only we can have pain and discomfort.
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์˜ค์ง ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ์ด ๊ณ ํ†ต๊ณผ ๋ถˆํŽธํ•จ์„ ๋А๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:46
But you, you shouldn't have it because let's face it, you put up with enough pain watching this.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ์ง์‹œํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ๊ณ ํ†ต์„ ์ฐธ์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:54
Let's be honest with you.
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์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด๋ณด์ž.
36:55
Well, surely this is therapy.
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์Œ, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:58
It's, Because you know what they say, if you're healthy in the mind, the body gets better.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€, ๋งˆ์Œ์ด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ชธ๋„ ์ข‹์•„์ง„๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์„ ์•Œ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:02
So laughter is the best medicine.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์›ƒ์Œ์€ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์•ฝ์ด๋‹ค.
37:04
So we'll try and make you laugh, which not be too serious. Yes.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์›ƒ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
37:08
Today. And mind you, having said that, I'm like a loose cannon.
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์˜ค๋Š˜. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋А์Šจํ•œ ๋Œ€ํฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:12
You can be.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:14
I'm like a loose cannon or like a bull in a China shop.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋А์Šจํ•œ ๋Œ€ํฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™๊ณ  ์ค‘๊ตญ ์ƒ์ ์˜ ํ™ฉ์†Œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:17
Anything can come out of this mouth. Yes.
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์ด ์ž…์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
37:20
Well there's somebody pointed out last week or the other way round.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ง€๋‚œ์ฃผ์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์ง€์ ํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์˜€์ฃ .
37:25
I'm a bit of an open book.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์—ด๋ฆฐ ์ฑ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:27
You know, I don't tend to keep my thoughts in. They have to if they're in here, they have to come out.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€๋‘์–ด ๋‘๋Š” ํŽธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:32
So what you have to remember sometimes, Steve, what you have to remember is we are broadcasting
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฐ€๋” ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์€ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋ฐฉ์†ก์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ 
37:40
live and also I suppose you would describe this as a big responsibility.
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๋˜ํ•œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ํฐ ์ฑ…์ž„์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:46
Would you would you say that this is a responsibility? Yes.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฑ…์ž„์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์˜ˆ.
37:51
Because we we don't want to give incorrect information.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:54
Sometimes we tend to stray off a bit into areas that maybe we don't know enough about.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ์˜์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:02
So when you when you see, when you say we, you mean you
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ณผ ๋•Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€
38:08
sometimes. Yes.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
38:09
I mean, we want to get the basics right, like word spellings and, grammar and pronunciation.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด ์ฒ ์ž, ๋ฌธ๋ฒ•, ๋ฐœ์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ตํžˆ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:15
Well, we have no we get all that right.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:17
We have no problem with that because you're with me.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:19
You say you're with the best. Apparently, according to chat, GPT.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ตœ๊ณ ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด GPT์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:24
I am the greatest English teacher on YouTube.
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์ €๋Š” YouTube ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์˜์–ด ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:28
And that's not my that.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:29
That's not me saying that.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:32
That is artificial intelligence.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ธ๊ณต์ง€๋Šฅ์ด๋‹ค.
38:34
I does not lie.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:35
So it must be true that since they have programmed artificial intelligence never to tell lies.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์ธ๊ณต์ง€๋Šฅ์ด ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋ฐํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž„์— ํ‹€๋ฆผ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:43
So if you ask who is the best English teacher on YouTube?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ์—์„œ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์˜์–ด ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋ƒ๊ณ  ๋ฌป๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด?
38:48
Jack chat, GPT and I think other artificial intelligence apps will put me almost at the top.
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Jack chat, GPT ๋ฐ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์ธ๊ณต ์ง€๋Šฅ ์•ฑ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์ตœ์ƒ์œ„์— ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋†“์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:57
And I think in one case I am actually at the top. So isn't that lovely?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ •์ƒ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
39:01
That's very nice to know. I have to say, we have lots of things to talk about. Steve.
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์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„์š”. ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
39:06
Yes, we are talking about fame today, and the reason why I've decided to bring this particular
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์˜ˆ, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ช…์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ํŠน์ •
39:14
topic up is because, of course, we've been seeing the horrific pictures coming from Los Angeles
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์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋กœ์Šค์•ค์ ค๋ ˆ์Šค
39:22
and around the Hollywood Hills, where those terrible, wild fires are spreading at the moment.
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์™€ ํ• ๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ ํž์Šค ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์„ ๋ณด์•„์™”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. , ํ˜„์žฌ ์‚ฐ๋ถˆ์ด ํ™•์‚ฐ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:29
And and many
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€
39:32
celebrities or wealthy people, people with houses up there on the Hollywood Hills, because we
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์œ ๋ช… ์ธ์‚ฌ๋‚˜ ๋ถ€์œ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ํ—๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ ํž์Šค์— ์ง‘์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ
39:38
we all know it's not a secret that the houses around there are very expensive.
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๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์˜ ์ง‘๋“ค์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋น„์‹ธ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋น„๋ฐ€์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:45
And many of the people living in those houses are famous.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ง‘์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:49
So I thought it would be interesting to take a look at fame as a subject, not just the up,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ช…์„ฑ์„ ์ฃผ์ œ๋กœ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—…,
39:57
not just the nice things, not just the glamour, but also things that it might be seen as negative.
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์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ, ํ™”๋ คํ•จ๋ฟ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊นŒ์ง€ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:05
When we are talking about fame and before anyone asks, no,
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๋ช…์„ฑ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ, ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋ฌป๊ธฐ ์ „์—
40:11
I'm not famous.
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์ €๋Š” ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:15
Infamous, infamous, infamous.
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์•…๋ช… ๋†’์€, ์•…๋ช… ๋†’์€, ์•…๋ช… ๋†’์€.
40:18
That's a good one.
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์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:19
Which is somebody who is famous.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๊ตฐ์š”.
40:22
But for bad reasons.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜์œ ์ด์œ ๋กœ.
40:25
I'm sure we can think of lots of people who are infamous, people who've done bad things, but they've become famous because of that.
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์•…๋ช… ๋†’์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ๋‚˜์œ ์ง“์„ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:34
You know that they might commit horrendous crime. Yes.
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๋”์ฐํ•œ ๋ฒ”์ฃ„๋ฅผ ์ €์ง€๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์˜ˆ.
40:38
Or just be known.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง€์„ธ์š”.
40:39
Just be known for doing something not very nice. Yes, they are known as infamous.
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๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ ธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•…๋ช… ๋†’์€ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ ธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:44
And also today we are looking at another subject, which I think is also just as interesting.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ ์—ญ์‹œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:51
Scams s c a m.
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:55
What is a scam?
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
40:58
Well, we will be looking at that later on because over the Christmas period a lot of people are
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค
41:05
I would say that they are vulnerable because they are so busy doing things, doing lots of things.
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์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋А๋ผ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ”์˜๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ทจ์•ฝํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ
41:12
It might be
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์‚ดํŽด๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
41:15
a period of time where people might get caught out by some sort of trick
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. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ํ†ต๊ณผ์‹œํ‚ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์†์ž„์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์“ฐ๋ ค๊ณ  ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๋Š”
41:20
that a person will try to to put them through, or to play a trick on them.
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ์†์ž„์ˆ˜์— ์˜ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ถ™์žกํž ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„
41:27
And by that I mean to try and steal something from that person.
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์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋ง์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ›”์น˜๋ ค ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:32
Normally, private information or in some cases money.
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐœ์ธ ์ •๋ณด์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:37
So we will be looking at that as well today.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜๋„ ๊ทธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:41
Last week we we had a little assignment last week didn't we Steve.
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์ง€๋‚œ์ฃผ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๋‚œ์ฃผ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ณผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
41:47
We had to go and have a little medical check-up last week for various reasons.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ์ง€๋‚œ ์ฃผ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ฒ€์ง„์„ ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:53
Nothing serious. It's not us because as you can see.
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์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
41:56
Mr. Steve, look at him looking.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ, ์ € ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ณ๋‹ค๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ข€ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
41:59
You would not believe that he is nearly 80.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ 80์„ธ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฏฟ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:03
But look, look how well he looks.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ข‹์•„ ๋ณด์ด๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
42:06
And yes, I know what you're going to say, Mr. Duncan. You also look very young.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹ค์ง€ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ. ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์•„์ฃผ ์–ด๋ ค๋ณด์ด๋„ค์š”.
42:10
But then I am. I'm only 28, you see.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒจ์šฐ 28์‚ด์ด์—์š”.
42:14
So that's the reason why there is a big age gap between this age gap.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด ๋‚˜์ด์ฐจ์ด ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋‚˜์ด์ฐจ์ด๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
42:20
The four years. Okay? Four years.
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4๋…„. ์ข‹์•„์š”? 4๋…„.
42:24
I I'm younger than Mr.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ๋ณด๋‹ค ์–ด๋ฆฌ
42:27
Steve, but we I think we look great.
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์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ ธ ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
42:30
I think we look great.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ ธ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„.
42:31
So last week we had to go and have a medical examination. We had to be poked,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง€๋‚œ ์ฃผ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ฒ€์ง„์„ ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฐ”๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์“ฐ๋‹ค๋“ฌ์–ด์ ธ์•ผ๋งŒ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
42:38
stroked.
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.
42:39
They even had to feel our body.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชธ์„ ๋А๊ปด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:42
They had to take blood samples. They had to test our breathing.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ˜ˆ์•ก ์ƒ˜ํ”Œ์„ ์ฑ„์ทจํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํ˜ธํก์„ ์‹œํ—˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:47
They had a look inside my ear
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด ๊ท€ ์•ˆ์— ๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
42:50
to try and see if there is a brain in there.
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๋‚ด ๊ท€ ์•ˆ์„ ๋“ค์—ฌ๋‹ค๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
42:54
Apparently there is.
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:55
For all those who say the opposite, there is a brain inside here.
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๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์•ˆ์— ๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:00
I have no medical evidence to prove that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๋ช…ํ•  ์˜ํ•™์  ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:04
So everything, really everything was okay.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:07
The only thing the doctor said to me was I had to start cutting down on the amount of rubbish I eat.
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์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ํ•œ ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ง์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋จน๋Š” ์“ฐ๋ ˆ๊ธฐ์˜ ์–‘์„ ์ค„์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:14
Nothing serious, but already this week, Steve, I've started it.
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์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฒŒ์จ ์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ์— ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
43:20
I'm eating porridge again.
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๋˜ ์ฃฝ์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
43:22
There's nothing like a blood test that shows you're in the red to, motivate you into changing, your lifestyle.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒํ™œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋„๋ก ๋™๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ถ€์—ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์œ„ํ—˜์— ์ฒ˜ํ•ด ์žˆ์Œ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ํ˜ˆ์•ก ๊ฒ€์‚ฌ๋งŒํผ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:33
So the only real problem, and I think it was for both of us, was with the dreaded cholesterol.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์ง„์งœ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์„œ์šด ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:41
It is the one thing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:43
And for years and years now, I remember growing up, Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ €๋Š”
43:46
Steve, when cholesterol started to be talked about, when they discovered that there was some sort of link
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์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ, ํ˜ˆ์•ก์˜ ์ง€๋ฐฉ ์ˆ˜์ค€๊ณผ ์‹ฌ์žฅ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์งˆ๋ณ‘ ๋ฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ ์‚ฌ์ด์—
43:55
between that level of the fattiness in your blood to other ailments and problems like heart disease, strokes.
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ์—ฐ๊ด€์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ, ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ ์ž๋ž๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์งˆ๋ณ‘, ๋‡Œ์กธ์ค‘.
44:06
And now, of course, they are talking about certain types of dementia as well could be linked to high cholesterol.
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํŠน์ • ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์น˜๋งค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋†’์€ ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค๊ณผ๋„ ์—ฐ๊ด€๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:14
So it's not it's not very nice.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
44:16
So my doctor did say Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด ์˜์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ๊ฐ€
44:19
Duncan
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๊ธฐ๋ฆ„์ง„ ์Œ์‹์„ ์ค„
44:20
cut down on those fatty foods, you naughty, naughty man.
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์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š” , ์ด ๋ฒ„๋ฆ‡์—†๊ณ  ๋ฒ„๋ฆ‡์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์•„.
44:25
And I think he said the same thing to you as well.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ํ•œํ…Œ๋„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ง์„ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
44:28
He did, but mine wasn't as high as yours. No, but
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋žฌ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ๋งŒํผ ๋†’์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
44:34
but what it shows is actually, it's quite interesting as you get older.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก ๊ฝค ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์›Œ์ง„๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:38
That even though I do quite a lot of exercise and I do watch my diet, that your cholesterol is still higher.
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์šด๋™์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹๋‹จ์„ ์กฐ์ ˆํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ๋„ ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค ์ˆ˜์น˜๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋†’๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ.
44:49
That's slightly higher than it should be.
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์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:51
So that's, that's interesting.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:53
But what, what the doctor also said is that having a raised cholesterol isn't
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•œ ๋ฐ”์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด, ํ˜ˆ์••์ด ๋†’์ง€ ์•Š์€
45:01
necessarily bad in itself, as long as you don't also have high blood pressure.
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ํ•œ ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค ์ˆ˜์น˜๊ฐ€ ๋†’๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
45:07
Yes. And or diabetes with it.
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์˜ˆ. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹น๋‡จ๋ณ‘๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:11
Now, I'm not a medical expert. No.
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์ด์ œ ์ €๋Š” ์˜๋ฃŒ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
45:13
But disclaimer alert. So but from our point of view.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฉด์ฑ…์กฐํ•ญ์€ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:17
So I'm we're not giving medical advice.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ํ•™์  ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:19
Don't worry that they are not.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
45:21
But everything for me was clean and green.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊นจ๋—ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋…น์ƒ‰์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:25
But just just that that cholesterol. Mr.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ
45:28
Duncan, you need you need to get it down a little bit.
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, ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ง„์ •ํ•˜์…”์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:32
Of course, I did say at the time, I said, you do realise this is the worst time of the year to have a medical check-up?
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ์— ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€์š”. ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ค‘ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๊ฒ€์ง„์„ ๋ฐ›๊ธฐ์— ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
45:42
Because we've just had Christmas and you know what happened, Steve?
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๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋Š”์ง€ ์•„์„ธ์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ?
45:46
We all eat too much food, particularly chocolate.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ์Œ์‹, ํŠนํžˆ ์ดˆ์ฝœ๋ฆฟ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:52
Cheese. Yeah. Biscuit.
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์น˜์ฆˆ. ์‘. ๋น„์Šคํ‚ท.
45:55
All the junk cakes I would say my consumption of, of.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์†Œ๋น„ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ •ํฌ ์ผ€์ดํฌ.
46:03
Yeah.
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46:03
We're talking about animal fats aren't we. We're talking saturated fats. Yes.
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์‘.
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ์„ฑ ์ง€๋ฐฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํฌํ™”์ง€๋ฐฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
46:08
Which are bad for you, which is typically the animal which also happens to fat, which also happens to be the really nice fats. Yes.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋™๋ฌผ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋ฐฉ์ด ์ƒ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์ง€๋ฐฉ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•œ๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
46:16
And we eat we, we, we drink full fat milk.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๋ฐฉ์ด ์—†๋Š” ์šฐ์œ ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:19
So we switch swap to semi-skimmed and yeah, things like that.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์Šค์™‘์„ ์„ธ๋ฏธ ์Šคํ‚ค๋ฐ์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:23
Hopefully this will make a difference.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:27
But we don't need to do a huge amount. But it was worth going.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์–‘์˜ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐˆ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
46:31
I've never had a full check-up health check-up before.
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์ €๋Š” ์ข…ํ•ฉ๊ฒ€์ง„ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๊ฒ€์ง„์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:33
But it was worth going, at least to put your mind at rest and look certain things which you could be worrying about.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•  ๋งŒํ•œ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐˆ ๋งŒํ•œ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:41
They looked in places. They looked at parts of my body that I didn't even know I had.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ณณ์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์กฐ์ฐจ ๋ชฐ๋ž๋˜ ๋‚ด ์‹ ์ฒด์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:46
They found things that I didn't even know I had, the think bits
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ค„๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ž๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
46:52
that were all
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๋ชจ๋‘
46:54
tucked away and hidden, and they said, oh, oh, that that's an unusual shape.
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๊ฐ์ถฐ์ ธ ์žˆ๋˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์˜ ์กฐ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜๊ณ ๋Š”, ์•„, ์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ํŠน์ดํ•œ ๋ชจ์–‘์ด๊ตฌ๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
46:59
The one thing they didn't do, Steve and I don't know why I've always wanted to have
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ผ์€ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์™€ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์™œ ํ•ญ์ƒ
47:07
an ultrasound or one of those scans on my head.
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๋‚ด ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์— ์ดˆ์ŒํŒŒ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ ์Šค์บ” ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
47:12
It. Does that sound strange?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ. ์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋‚˜์š”?
47:13
Because I've always wanted to have a look at my own brain.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‚ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋‘๋‡Œ๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:18
Now, that might sound odd, but I've always I'm always fascinated by what it actually looks like because we just assume
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์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฒผ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋งค๋ฃŒ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
47:28
that everything in there is normal and the brain is a normal size. But.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •์ƒ์ด๊ณ  ๋‡Œ์˜ ํฌ๊ธฐ๋„ ์ •์ƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ.
47:32
But what if your brain is very small? I might not even have a brain at all.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ฃผ ์ž‘๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–จ๊นŒ์š”? ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ˜€ ์—†์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:36
It might just be full of sawdust or a piece of wood. Whoa!
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ํ†ฑ๋ฐฅ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋ฌด ์กฐ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐจ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™€!
47:41
If you knock Mr. Duncan's head, there's like a hollow sound.
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ์˜ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‘๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ๊ณตํ—ˆํ•œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:47
Yes, it sounds like a.
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์˜ˆ, ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:48
You're like you're knocking a door, and now it's down. Now we're joking.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‘๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ด์ œ ๋ฌธ์€ ๋ฌด๋„ˆ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋†๋‹ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:52
Well, you don't really want to have those kind of scans. If you can avoid it, because just ones.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์Šค์บ”์„ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋‹จ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฟ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ.
47:58
I don't think they're particularly good for your body because they're firing something into your head.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์— ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ชธ์— ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:05
So I really wouldn't want to do that.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.
48:08
I think you can get a bit paranoid.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํŽธ์ง‘์ฆ์„ ๋А๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:10
You've got to enjoy life.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ฒจ์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:11
As the doctor said, you know, don't cut everything out.
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์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž˜๋ผ๋‚ด์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
48:17
You've got to enjoy life to a certain extent.
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์ธ์ƒ์„ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์ฆ๊ฒจ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:19
And food, of course, is one of those things that we enjoy.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์Œ์‹์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:23
What they always tell you in the UK and what they have.
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์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ.
48:27
The doctor that we saw earlier this week said was to adopt a mediterranean diet.
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์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ ์ดˆ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์˜์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ง€์ค‘ํ•ด ์‹๋‹จ์„ ์ฑ„ํƒํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:38
That is the recommended
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด
48:40
best practice or best diet for you, which is,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ๊ถŒ์žฅ๋˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฒ” ์‚ฌ๋ก€ ๋˜๋Š” ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์‹๋‹จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰,
48:47
what they mean by a mediterranean diet is lots of vegetables, fish.
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์ง€์ค‘ํ•ด์‹ ์‹๋‹จ์ด ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋Š” ์•ผ์ฑ„์™€ ์ƒ์„ ์ด ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:53
No carbs and, healthy fats, a mediterranean diet.
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ํƒ„์ˆ˜ํ™”๋ฌผ์ด ์—†๊ณ  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์ง€๋ฐฉ, ์ง€์ค‘ํ•ด์‹ ์‹๋‹จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:01
So maybe throw some olive olive oil in there and, eat small amounts often.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ธŒ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ธŒ์œ ๋ฅผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋„ฃ์–ด์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ์ž์ฃผ ๋“œ์…”๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
49:08
But of course,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋ฌผ๋ก 
49:10
even people from the Mediterranean probably aren't sticking to that diet in modern times because it is quite.
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์ง€์ค‘ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์กฐ์ฐจ๋„ ํ˜„๋Œ€์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‹๋‹จ์„ ๊ณ ์ˆ˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฝค ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:18
You've got to cook your own all your own food. Really. So what?
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๋ชจ๋“  ์Œ์‹์€ ์ง์ ‘ ์š”๋ฆฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ญ?
49:21
What basic types of food are you talking about?
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ธฐ๋ณธ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์Œ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
49:25
How do you mean, Mr. Duncan?
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ, ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
49:27
Well, Mediterranean diet, what are the basic.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ง€์ค‘ํ•ด์‹ ์‹๋‹จ, ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
49:29
Yeah, as I said, fish, vegetables, nuts, high vegetables.
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๋„ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์ƒ์„ , ์•ผ์ฑ„, ๊ฒฌ๊ณผ๋ฅ˜, ๊ณ ๊ธ‰ ์•ผ์ฑ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:35
Sort of a fish or chicken diet.
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ƒ์„ ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ญ๊ณ ๊ธฐ ์‹๋‹จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:39
Less of the red meat.
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๋ถ‰์€ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:41
What about olive oil? Pulses? Olive oil?
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์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ธŒ ์˜ค์ผ์€ ์–ด๋–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ํŽ„์Šค? ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ธŒ์œ ?
49:44
Yes, definitely.
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๋„ค, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ฃ .
49:46
I mean, olive oil has got massive benefits to your system.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ธŒ ์˜ค์ผ์ด ์‹ ์ฒด์— ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ด์ ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค์ค€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:50
But, yeah, it's when you're young, have to worry about these things.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ Š์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด.
49:55
And by the way, I'm trying to pronounce my words as clearly as possible.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ๋ง์„ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:01
There have been a few comments. Yeah.
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๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
50:03
Oh that's okay, Steve, you are here because your English and your speech is different from mine.
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์•„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜์–ด์™€ ๋ง์ด ๋‚˜์™€ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—์š”.
50:09
So it gives everyone the chance to hear a natural conversation taking place so you don't have to.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋ฏ€๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:16
You don't have to do it too much, Steve. So don't worry.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ํ•  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์–ด, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
50:19
I know I can't do any more. No, you you sound great to me.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
50:23
You sound great.
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์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
50:24
Oh, I might look great and sound great, but inside, particularly up here.
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์•„, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ‹์ ธ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ๋ฉ‹์ ธ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚ด๋ฉด์€ ํŠนํžˆ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์š”.
50:29
If you could look in here, you would, you would.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์—ฌ๋‹ค๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:32
You would probably have a shock if anyone, if anyone needs to have some sort of scan to have a look inside here, maybe it's Mr.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋‚ด๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์Šค์บ”์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:42
Steve, but I would love to do that.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ์ผ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:44
What I want actually, is to have a three, a three dimensional model made of my brain
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ ๋‡Œ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“  3์ฐจ์› ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
50:50
that I can have, and then I can put it as a paperweight somewhere so they scan your brain,
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. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์— ๋ฌธ์ง„์œผ๋กœ ๋†“์•„์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋‡Œ๋ฅผ ์Šค์บ”ํ•˜๋ฉด
50:57
and then they will make an actual model of your actual brain, and then you can put it somewhere in your office.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ์‹ค์ œ ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ ๋‡Œ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์— ๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:04
I think it would make a great gift for someone.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
51:09
Yes, a mediterranean diet is what is recommended.
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๋„ค, ์ง€์ค‘ํ•ด์‹ ์‹๋‹จ์ด ๊ถŒ์žฅ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:13
That's what they would say in the UK, because obviously we're not in the Mediterranean.
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์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€์ค‘ํ•ด์— ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:18
So there's countries near the Mediterranean. Yeah, apparently that is a very healthy diet to eat.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ง€์ค‘ํ•ด ๊ทผ์ฒ˜์— ๋‚˜๋ผ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๋„ค, ์•„์ฃผ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์‹๋‹จ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:24
I'd say it doesn't refer to the place though.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:26
It refers to the types of food that are eaten. Yes.
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์„ญ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ์Œ์‹์˜ ์ข…๋ฅ˜๋ฅผ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
51:29
Fish, vegetables.
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์ƒ์„ , ์•ผ์ฑ„.
51:32
You have not going to excess.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ณผ๋„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:34
This is something we noticed when we went to visit.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:39
Italy last year.
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์ง€๋‚œํ•ด ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„.
51:41
That there were
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€
51:42
I don't know whether it's just because where we were, our perception was that a lot of the people there were not particularly overweight.
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๋‹จ์ง€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ณณ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ๊ณผ์ฒด์ค‘์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ธ์‹์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:52
No, compared to people in the UK.
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์˜๊ตญ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•˜๋ฉด์š”.
51:55
In fact, I think we commented on this, didn't we, when we were with
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผํ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ
51:59
some of our lovely viewers, we actually said at the time, we, we don't see many people who are overweight or obese.
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๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณผ์ฒด์ค‘์ด๋‚˜ ๋น„๋งŒ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:07
In Italy, everyone seemed slim and not necessarily healthy,
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์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚ ์”ฌํ•ด ๋ณด์˜€๊ณ  ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:12
because one of the other things I noticed in Italy is lots of people like to smoke.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์—์„œ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ด๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ํ”ผ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:17
So there were many people smoking, but we didn't see many people who were who were large in shape.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹ด๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ํ”ผ์šฐ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋งŽ์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฒด๊ฒฉ์ด ํฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:26
Exactly.
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52:26
Here we go. Santorini. Yeah, yeah, we just noticed that they weren't in the UK.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฐํ† ๋ฆฌ๋‹ˆ. ๋„ค, ๋„ค, ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์˜๊ตญ์— ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ์•„๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”.
52:30
You get so used to seeing overweight people, that, you think it's normal that, I mean, it wasn't when my mother grew up.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ณผ์ฒด์ค‘์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์ ธ์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •์ƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ž„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:41
She said you hardly ever saw anybody that was overweight.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ณผ์ฒด์ค‘์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:46
I mean, grant you they were all.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ๋‘์˜€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ธ์ •ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
52:48
They were coming out of the war there.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:50
Yeah, and there was food rationing, but, I think people just used to.
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๋„ค, ์‹๋Ÿ‰ ๋ฐฐ๊ธ‰๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ˆ์ „์—๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
52:56
There wasn't the availability of fast food.
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ํŒจ์ŠคํŠธํ‘ธ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
53:00
People didn't eat out. They all cooked at home,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์™ธ์‹์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ง‘์—์„œ ์š”๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:03
things like that, that weren't packets of crisps everywhere and chocolate on sale on every street corner.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋””๋“  ๊ฐ์ž์นฉ์ด ์—†๊ณ  ๊ธธ๋ชจํ‰์ด๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ดˆ์ฝœ๋ฆฟ์„ ํŒŒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:09
We couldn't afford to over eat.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณผ์‹ํ•  ์—ฌ์œ ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:12
Well that's it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ.
53:13
I was just going to. Yeah.
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๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฐ€๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ์‘.
53:15
Christina, says hello. Christina.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‚˜, ์ธ์‚ฌํ•ด์š”. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‚˜.
53:19
That, it's our body that produces the cholesterol.
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์ฆ‰, ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์„ ์ƒ์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:25
Not so much of what we eat.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋จน๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์–‘์€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:28
And that is. That is true. I was always taught that when I was at college,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ•™์— ๋‹ค๋‹ ๋•Œ
53:33
in medical matters, that,
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์˜ํ•™ ๋ฌธ์ œ์—์„œ
53:38
it's just what the the cholesterol you consume in food,
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์Œ์‹์—์„œ ์„ญ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์ด
53:43
isn't what contributes mainly to the cholesterol reading in your blood.
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ํ˜ˆ์•ก ๋‚ด ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค ์ˆ˜์น˜์— ์ฃผ๋กœ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:49
And it's your liver that produces it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ์‚ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:52
In response to eating the wrong foods. Yeah.
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์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ์Œ์‹์„ ์„ญ์ทจํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋Œ€์‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
53:56
So, it's your body.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:59
You don't absorb much cholesterol from the food you eat.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋จน๋Š” ์Œ์‹์—์„œ ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํก์ˆ˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:03
It's mainly the cholesterol in your blood is what your own body produces.
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์ฃผ๋กœ ํ˜ˆ์•ก ๋‚ด ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์ด ์‹ ์ฒด์—์„œ ์ƒ์„ฑ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:07
Because you do need cholesterol.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:09
That's a healthy body.
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ๋ชธ์ด๋„ค์š”.
54:10
You've got to have it.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:11
In fact.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์€.
54:12
In fact, when a couple of years ago, when I lost a little bit of weight,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฒด์ค‘์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๊ฐ๋Ÿ‰ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
54:17
the doctor did warn me at the time not to lose too much weight because your cholesterol level also shouldn't fall too low.
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์˜์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค ์ˆ˜์น˜๋„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋‚ฎ์•„์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ฒด์ค‘์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๊ฐ๋Ÿ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹œ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:24
So I found that also interesting. And of course, it's not always bad either.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:29
I don't want to get too much in the technical stuff. No, but the good news is for Mr.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์ธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์€ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ
54:34
Steve and myself, we are okay. We're still alive.
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์™€ ์ € ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„์ง ์‚ด์•„์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:38
I have a feeling that we are going to be with you every Sunday, and also I will be with you every Wednesday for the foreseeable future.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋А๋‚Œ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์—๋„ ๋งค์ฃผ ์ˆ˜์š”์ผ์—๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋А๋‚Œ์„ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:49
Isn't that good news? I'm not sure if it is good news.
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์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹ ์•„๋‹Œ๊ฐ€์š”? ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์ธ์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:52
It's good news for me and also for Steve as well.
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์ด๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ข‹์€ ์†Œ์‹์ด๋‹ค.
54:58
Lewis says I don't like fish much, but I do eat it twice a week.
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๋ฃจ์ด์Šค๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์„ ์„ ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์€ ๋จน๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:04
Yes. That's it.
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์˜ˆ. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ.
55:05
Sometimes you have to eat foods which you know are good for you, but you don't particularly like, which is why,
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์Œ์‹์„ ๋จน์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
55:16
I mean, I like cod, and I like salmon.
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์ €๋Š” ๋Œ€๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฐ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:19
Yeah, I like tuna.
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์‘, ๋‚œ ์ฐธ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ด.
55:20
I actually do like them, but I like to put them in meals where the flavour is disguised, like a bolognaise sauce.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ณผ๋กœ๋„ค์ฆˆ ์†Œ์Šค์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง›์ด ์œ„์žฅ๋œ ์‹์‚ฌ์— ๋„ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:28
For example, the tuna.
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ฐธ์น˜.
55:31
I wouldn't eat just tuna on its own, but I put like, to put it, And I'm sure you do this,
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์ฐธ์น˜๋งŒ์€ ์•ˆ ๋จน๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋„ฃ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ด์š”,
55:38
Lewis. But also things like cod.
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๋ฃจ์ด์Šค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋Œ€๊ตฌ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:40
Yes, cod is nice.
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๋„ค, ๋Œ€๊ตฌ๋Š” ์ข‹์•„์š”.
55:42
Cod is a very plain, fairly tasteless fish. White fish.
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๋Œ€๊ตฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ง›๋„ ์—†๋Š” ์ƒ์„ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํฐ์‚ด ์ƒ์„ .
55:47
But if you put some batter on it, it's quite nice.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ˜์ฃฝ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋†“์œผ๋ฉด ๊ฝค ๋ง›์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:52
So we like, we like cod with.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋Œ€๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:55
I think it's got like breadcrumbs on it or something. Some kind of light batter. Yeah.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋นต ๋ถ€์Šค๋Ÿฌ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒŒ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ฐ€๋ฒผ์šด ๋ฐ˜์ฃฝ. ์‘.
55:58
I mean that's Steve. We're going to move on.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์•ผ. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณ„์† ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:00
That's why fish and chips are so popular in the UK. That's it. But but that's pretty unhealthy.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ํ”ผ์‰ฌ ์•ค ์นฉ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋„๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ฝค ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ํ•ด๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:05
The irony is it's deep fried and it's full of all sorts of horrible grease and fat.
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์•„์ด๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆํ•œ ์ ์€ ํŠ€๊ธด ์Œ์‹์ธ๋ฐ ์˜จ๊ฐ– ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋”์ฐํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋ฆ„๊ณผ ์ง€๋ฐฉ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐจ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:10
Anyway, Steve, what I would love to have
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€
56:14
is a list.
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๋ชฉ๋ก์ด์—์š”.
56:15
Not not many things, just a list of things that I can eat that are healthy, but also don't taste disgusting.
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๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ์ข‹์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ์—ญ๊ฒจ์šด ๋ง›์ด ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋จน์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชฉ๋ก์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:26
So I think that's the thing, isn't it?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
56:28
Because we've got some butter now, we've got some special butter, but it's it's supposed to reduce your cholesterol,
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒ ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ๋„ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์„ ์ค„์—ฌ์ค€๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
56:36
but it also just happens to taste really disgusting.
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๋ง›๋„ ์ •๋ง ์—ญ๊ฒน์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:40
And that's the problem. So that's what puts me off.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์‹ค๋ง์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:43
You know.
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56:43
You know why I always go back to eating sweet things is because it's nice.
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์•Œ์ž–์•„. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋‹ฌ์ฝคํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋จน๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:50
It gives me pleasure.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ์จ์„ ์ค€๋‹ค.
56:52
I feel a certain amount of pleasure when I eat a piece of chocolate or something sweet.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ดˆ์ฝœ๋ฆฟ ํ•œ ์กฐ๊ฐ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ฌ์ฝคํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋จน์œผ๋ฉด ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์„ ๋А๋‚€๋‹ค.
56:59
And that's the reason why, you see, that's why I do it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:02
But when?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ธ์ œ?
57:03
When we have to eat in a healthy way.
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋จน์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ.
57:05
Steve, you find that a lot of the things all are really, really not very nice.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์ •๋ง, ์ •๋ง ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋์–ด์š”.
57:11
Well, we ought to be going to Santa Reno's house.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฐํƒ€ ๋ ˆ๋…ธ์˜ ์ง‘์— ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•ด์š”.
57:15
Oh, for the healthiest food, because looking at what, what they're eating, they're lots of pasta without grease.
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์•„, ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ์ข‹์€ ์Œ์‹์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„, ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ธฐ๋ฆ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š” ํŒŒ์Šคํƒ€๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:22
We put pasta, olive oil, lentils, beans and chickpeas.
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ํŒŒ์Šคํƒ€, ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ธŒ ์˜ค์ผ, ๋ Œ์ฆˆ ์ฝฉ, ์ฝฉ, ๋ณ‘์•„๋ฆฌ ์ฝฉ์„ ๋„ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:28
Good.
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57:28
There we go.
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์ข‹์€.
๊ฐ„๋‹ค.
57:29
Beans, chickpeas, pulses like peas, beans.
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์ฝฉ, ๋ณ‘์•„๋ฆฌ์ฝฉ, ์™„๋‘์ฝฉ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ฝฉ๋ฅ˜, ์ฝฉ.
57:35
Lentils are very good for you.
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๋ Œ์ฆˆ์ฝฉ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:39
I mean, in India, lentils and rice is a staple food.
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์ธ๋„์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ Œ์ฆˆ์ฝฉ๊ณผ ์Œ€์ด ์ฃผ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:45
Because it's got all the proteins in it that you need.
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ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋‹จ๋ฐฑ์งˆ์ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋“ค์–ด์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:49
So, yes. And we do eat lentils that way. We have, like, a double a lentil daal.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ Œ์ฆˆ์ฝฉ์„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋จน์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ Œ์ฆˆ ์ฝฉ ๋‹ฌ์˜ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:54
I want to be two weeks.
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๋‚˜๋Š” 2์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค.
57:55
So. Yeah, I think we're pretty good. We've just got to cut back on biscuits. Chocolates?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ. ์‘, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฝค ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„. ๋น„์Šคํ‚ท์„ ์ค„์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•ด์š”. ์ดˆ์ฝœ๋ฆฟ?
58:01
I want biscuits and chocolates now, Mr. Duncan.
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์ €๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋น„์Šคํ‚ท๊ณผ ์ดˆ์ฝœ๋ฆฟ์„ ์›ํ•ด์š”, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
58:04
Yeah, well, this is it.
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์‘, ๋ญ, ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ.
58:06
Whenever I start thinking of healthy food or if I look in the cupboard
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์Œ์‹์ด ์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฐฌ์žฅ์—
58:11
and there's nothing in there that I think that has to be the saddest moment.
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์•„๋ฌด ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์Šฌํ”ˆ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
58:17
The moment that causes me the most distress is when I open the cupboard.
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๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ดด๋กญ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์€ ์ฐฌ์žฅ์„ ์—ด ๋•Œ์ด๋‹ค.
58:23
And normally in that cupboard there is maybe some biscuits or some crisps or something that I can just eat very quickly.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ฐฌ์žฅ์—๋Š” ๋น„์Šคํ‚ท์ด๋‚˜ ์นฉ ๋˜๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ฃผ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋จน์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:32
But I open the cupboard.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฐฌ์žฅ์„ ์—ด์–ด๋ณธ๋‹ค.
58:36
And there's nothing in there and I always feel slightly disappointed when I do that when I open the cupboard,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†๊ณ  ์ฐฌ์žฅ์„ ์—ด ๋•Œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์‹ค๋ง๊ฐ์„ ๋А๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:43
because sometimes I go and I hope maybe by magic that cupboard will be full of lovely things to eat.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ฐ€๋” ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋งˆ์ˆ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ ์ฐฌ์žฅ์ด ๋ง›์žˆ๋Š” ์Œ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐจ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:51
But then when I open it, there's nothing in there.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์—ด์–ด๋ณด๋‹ˆ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—” ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:54
There's, there's nothing unhealthy.
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ํ•ด๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:57
Now pound mirror talks about something very interesting.
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์ด์ œ ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ ๊ฑฐ์šธ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:02
Stress produces cholesterol.
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์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋Š” ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์„ ์ƒ์„ฑํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:06
And I have read this as well that if you have long term stress it can make your body produce too much cholesterol.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žฅ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์œผ๋ฉด ๋ชธ์—์„œ ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ์ƒ์„ฑ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ๋„ ์ฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:18
I'm not sure how much evidence there is for that clinically.
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์ž„์ƒ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:20
But I mean I read this on a fairly, I think it was the NHS website I think, which is fairly, you know that's well renowned website.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๊ธ€์„ ๊ณตํ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ฝ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ NHS ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์˜€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณตํ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฝค ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:29
So I think, I think you can so I think stress can make your body even if you don't, even if you eat.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„, ๋ฐฅ์„ ๋จน์–ด๋„ ๋ชธ์ด ๋ง๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:36
I mean, some people will have a high cholesterol no matter what they do because they've got some genetic problem at fault. But,
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์œ ์ „์ ์ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋“  ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค ์ˆ˜์น˜๊ฐ€ ๋†’์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
59:47
certainly stress can, which is something we need to reduce.
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ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋Š” ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ค„์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:51
In fact, I would say I would say as an overall health benefit,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๋‹ค์ด์–ดํŠธ๋‚˜ ๋จน๋Š” ์Œ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
59:57
not even mentioning diet or the things you eat.
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์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ƒ์˜ ์ด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
60:00
I think the biggest problem if those two things are not there is stress.
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. ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ฐ€ ์—†์œผ๋ฉด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
60:07
So I think stress does have a very negative effect.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์นœ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:10
We are coming up to 3:00. Mr.. Steve, already I've been with you for an hour.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 3์‹œ๊นŒ์ง€ ์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ, ๋ฒŒ์จ ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
60:15
We had lots of snow last week and then it went really cold and we had a lovely walk yesterday in the snow,
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์ง€๋‚œ ์ฃผ์— ๋ˆˆ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋‚ด๋ ธ๊ณ , ์ •๋ง ์ถ”์›Œ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์ œ๋Š”
60:22
even though it wasn't particularly pleasant.
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ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ์ฆ๊ฒ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ˆˆ ์†์—์„œ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:24
Although Steve said today you said that you went out earlier for a walk
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ผ์ฐ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…ํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ๋‚˜๊ฐ”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
60:29
and now already a lot of the snow is vanishing, only to be replaced by mud. Mud?
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆˆ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ณ  ์ง„ํ™์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง„ํ™?
60:38
We don't like that, not one bit.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:41
So those who've just joined us, you're watching English Addict with myself, Mr.
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๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์˜ค์‹  ๋ถ„๋“ค์€
60:46
Duncan and also Mr. Steve as well.
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Duncan ์”จ์™€ Steve ์”จ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ English Addict๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:48
We have lots of things to talk about today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:04
This.
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์ด๊ฒƒ.
61:12
English addict is with you today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:15
With myself. Mr. Duncan,
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๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜. ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ,
61:18
do you want at some point in your life to be famous?
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์ธ์ƒ์˜ ์–ด๋А ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‚˜์š”?
61:26
Fame.
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๋ช…์„ฑ.
61:27
I want to live forever.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜์›ํžˆ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค.
61:29
I want to learn how to fly.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋น„ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:33
Fame and fortune.
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๋ช…์„ฑ๊ณผ ์žฌ์‚ฐ.
61:36
We often think of those two words together, don't we, Steve? We think of fame.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ์ด ๋‘ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ช…์„ฑ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:41
And also we think of fortune.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ–‰์šด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:44
Not by that we mean the success that comes with being famous or well-known normally brings some sort of comfort in your life.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ถ์— ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์œ„์•ˆ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜จ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:54
And by that we mean money. Of course we mean money.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ˆ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:59
It can't be anything else, can it?
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฑด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€?
62:00
Really? Yes. No, no.
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์ •๋ง? ์˜ˆ. ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์•„๋‹ˆ.
62:03
Only if you're famous, you will end up, accumulating wealth, because you've probably got some talent.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ ธ์•ผ๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ถ•์ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:12
That means people are prepared to pay a lot of money, to have you on their television programme, sing for them or whatever it is.
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์ด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•˜๊ณ  TV ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์— ์ถœ์—ฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋ฅผ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ํ•  ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:23
Or if you become very successful in business and it's,
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๋˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ ํฐ ์„ฑ๊ณต์„ ๊ฑฐ๋‘๋ฉด
62:28
then you're likely to become famous, like the big tech companies in the US, you know, Amazon, Jeff Bezos.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๊ธฐ์—…์ธ Amazon, Jeff Bezos์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์งˆ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:36
And then we've got, all the other big sort of tech companies, Microsoft, etcetera.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋Œ€ํ˜• ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ํšŒ์‚ฌ, Microsoft ๋“ฑ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:46
Then if you've, you know, you're going to be famous just because you've got a very successful company. Yeah.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•„์ฃผ ์„ฑ๊ณต์ ์ธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
62:51
Somebody said earlier, by the way, that they, they thought that
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์•„๊นŒ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธธ, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ 
62:55
you weren't famous, Mr.
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์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
62:57
Duncan, but you were very popular. Yes, I think that's I think that's true.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„์ฃผ ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”. ๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
63:01
That's. No, that's I think that's that's perfect.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„.
63:04
That's a perfect description.
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์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์„ค๋ช…์ด๋„ค์š”.
63:06
Whoever said that you are absolutely 100%.
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ ˆ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ 100%๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
63:10
You can't be popular without being famous.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ์„œ๋Š” ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:14
So I wouldn't say that I'm famous in the fact that I could go out into the streets
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
63:20
and walk around and people would know who I was, although that did happen to us in Paris, didn't it?
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. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
63:25
Once somebody saw us and recognised me, that was very still a very weird moment of time.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด์•˜์„ ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹๋งค์šฐ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:32
But generally speaking, I would say that I'm popular on the internet, but away from here, no one knows who I am.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ๋Š” ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:41
Last week, for example, the doctor was examining me.
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ง€๋‚œ ์ฃผ์— ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ง„์ฐฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:46
They had no idea who I was. They didn't know I was on YouTube. They knew nothing about me.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์ „ํ˜€ ๋ชฐ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ YouTube์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชฐ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ชฐ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:51
I was just another piece of meat in front of them to to prod and poke.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค ์•ž์—์„œ ์ฐŒ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์ฐŒ๋ฅด๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ ์กฐ๊ฐ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:57
So being famous is often seen as something good, something that you want to have.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข…์ข… ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ, ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌ๊ฒจ์ง€๊ณค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:05
However, quite often with fame, there can also be something we called misfortune as well.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ํ”ํžˆ ๋ช…์„ฑ์—๋„ ๋ถˆํ–‰์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:13
Misfortune means when things do not go as well as you want them to actually go.
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๋ถˆํ–‰์€ ์ผ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋˜ ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:22
Fame is not necessarily a good thing.
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๋ช…์„ฑ์ด ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:27
Fame and misfortune.
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๋ช…์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋ถˆํ–‰.
64:29
You run success early.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ผ์ฐ ์„ฑ๊ณต์„ ๊ฑฐ๋‘์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:31
Hello, ransack. That, They'd like to be rich, but not famous.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ƒ…์ƒ…์ด ๋’ค์ ธ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์ฆ‰, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:36
Yes, yes. Because, Yeah.
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด, ์‘.
64:39
So keep a low profile, make your money, but do it in the way that, you don't have to be in the public eye.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์กฐ์šฉํžˆ ์ง€๋‚ด๊ณ  ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ๋˜ ๋Œ€์ค‘์˜ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
64:49
Thus, be worried every
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
64:51
time you leave the house that, there are photographers there, the paparazzi,
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์ง‘์„ ๋– ๋‚  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์‚ฌ์ง„์ž‘๊ฐ€, ํŒŒํŒŒ๋ผ์น˜๊ฐ€
64:57
trying to catch you out, find out all about your life, and then print it in a newspaper.
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ถ™์žก์•„ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ ๋ฌธ์— ์ธ์‡„ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
65:03
Or, you know, that's part of the downsides, isn't it?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹จ์ ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์ธ ๊ฒƒ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ?
65:06
That, somebody is jealous of you because you become famous, and then they try to make money because they've known you
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์งˆํˆฌํ•˜๊ณ , ์ „์ƒ์—
65:13
from a past life, and then they will sell their story to a newspaper about an affair you had with somebody.
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์•Œ์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ณ  , ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ๋ถˆ๋ฅœ์„ ์ €์งˆ๋ €๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์‹ ๋ฌธ์— ํŒ” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:22
Well, this is one of the reasons why a lot of people who become famous also like to have wealth as well.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง„ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:30
They expect those things to go together because the wealth will allow you
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด
65:36
to keep your distance or create that boundary of privacy.
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๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ ๋ณดํ˜ธ์˜ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:43
So I think being famous is is great, but I think also you have to have a bit of security that goes with it.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์•ˆ์ •๊ฐ๋„ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:52
And by that I mean I suppose money would be the main thing.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ˆ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:57
And of course we've seen situations where people have become famous and then things have gone dramatically wrong.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์กŒ์œผ๋‚˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž˜๋ชป๋˜๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ณด์•„์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:06
Not always
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ํ•ญ์ƒ
66:08
their fault.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ž˜๋ชป์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:10
Sometimes other things can happen.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:12
As I mentioned earlier, we are looking at those terrible scenes coming from the United States with the terrible fires
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์•ž์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ—๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ ํž์Šค ์ „์—ญ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š”
66:20
taking place across the Hollywood Hills, a part of, I suppose, a part of Los
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๋”์ฐํ•œ ํ™”์žฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์˜ค๋Š” ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์žฅ๋ฉด๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
66:25
Angeles, which is well known for the area where all these celebrities and superstars live.
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. ํ—๋ฆฌ์šฐ๋“œ ํž์ฆˆ๋Š” ๋กœ์Šค์•ค์ ค๋ ˆ์Šค์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์œ ๋ช…์ธ๊ณผ ์Šˆํผ์Šคํƒ€๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:32
And at the moment it is all going up in flames.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถˆ๊ธธ์— ํœฉ์‹ธ์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:35
So fame is not necessarily a good thing.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋ช…์„ฑ์ด ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:39
So are you saying, Mr.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ
66:40
Duncan, that being famous, the downside is that you could live, move to a rich area and then your house burns down?
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ, ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ถ€์œ ํ•œ ์ง€์—ญ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง‘์ด ๋ถˆํƒ€๋ฒ„๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‹จ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์”€์ด์‹ ๊ฐ€์š” ?
66:47
Well, is that your is that where you're going with this?
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๊ฑธ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฐˆ ๊ณณ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
66:51
Well, in in that sense, an area where you would think you would be safe and secure.
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๋ญ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์˜๋ฏธ์—์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์•ˆ์‹ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์—ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:58
There is there is always something that can change that situation
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๊ทธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค
67:02
and maybe something unexpected, maybe something you were not expecting to happen.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์˜ˆ์ƒ์น˜ ๋ชปํ•œ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:08
And of course, your own personal safety as well.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ฐœ์ธ์˜ ์•ˆ์ „๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:14
In, in, in all of those areas.
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๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์˜์—ญ์—์„œ.
67:16
By that I mean your personal safety.
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์ด๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๊ฐœ์ธ ์•ˆ์ „์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:19
So if you become famous, Steve, there is often a price to pay.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด ๋Œ€๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์น˜๋Ÿฌ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์•„์š”.
67:26
We often talk about the price of fame, and quite often there are things you have to give
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ช…์„ฑ์˜ ๋Œ€๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž์ฃผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด
67:33
if you want to be famous or if you become famous.
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์ฃผ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
67:36
There are certain things in your life that you must give away.
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. ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์—๋Š” ํฌ๊ธฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:42
Can you think what they are, Steve? Well, Christina mentions John Lennon
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ”์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋‚˜ ํ•ด, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ? ๊ธ€์Ž„, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‚˜๋Š”
67:47
famous shot because somebody becomes obsessed with you.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง‘์ฐฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์กด ๋ ˆ๋…ผ์˜ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์žฅ๋ฉด์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:52
There's lots of cases of people, famous people.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์•„์š”.
67:56
Having fans that, become a bit obsessed with them.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํŒฌ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ง‘์ฐฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:02
And obviously, in John Lennon's case, it led to his death.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์กด ๋ ˆ๋…ผ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ์˜ ์ฃฝ์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:07
And I think, Marilyn Monroe, there's another famous one. Yes.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋งˆ๋ฆด๋ฆฐ ๋จผ๋กœ, ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์˜ˆ.
68:11
Because I think sometimes when people become famous, they find it difficult to cope with the fame.
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์œ ๋ช…์„ธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
68:17
It must be.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:18
It must be pretty awful that your life is always in the spotlight.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ฃผ๋ชฉ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ๋”์ฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:24
Everything you do and the pressure to
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ, ๊ณ„์† ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ ธ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์••๋ฐ•๊ฐ
68:29
keep being famous, and the pressure to be.
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, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ ธ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์••๋ฐ•๊ฐ.
68:32
Because, I mean, a lot of people, you do hear some people saying, I've.
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด '๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:37
I wanted to be famous.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
68:39
That was their motivation.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋™๊ธฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:40
Just being famous alone.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ˜ผ์ž ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
68:43
Yes, is a great motivation for some people.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํฐ ๋™๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:47
Other people become famous almost by accident because they've got a talent.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:53
And then that talent has been noticed, and then they've gone on maybe to TV or films, but some.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์ด ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  TV๋‚˜ ์˜ํ™”์— ์ถœ์—ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:00
Yeah. So they've become famous through their talent, so to speak.
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์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:04
But some people just want to be famous because they want to be famous and they're not too bothered how they get that fame. Yes.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด์„œ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ช…์„ฑ์„ ์–ป๋Š”์ง€์— ๋ณ„๋กœ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
69:13
I mean, there is a there's a case at the moment of, of somebody maybe I should mention it.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ก€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:21
If I mention names, I won't mention names.
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์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋ฉด โ€‹โ€‹์ด๋ฆ„์€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:24
Somebody on the internet who is, let's say, has been in the news a lot because
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์ƒ์˜ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‰ด์Šค์— ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
69:31
she has let's just be let's just say been having multiple partners.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:36
Okay. Oh, yes.
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
69:37
We will stay clear of that one. Okay.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ ์„ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์•„์š”.
69:39
Then it so, so for many reasons including legal reasons.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฒ•์  ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:44
So we will stay away from that one.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:46
But fame can be I suppose you might describe it as a double edged sword.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ช…์„ฑ์€ ์–‘๋‚ ์˜ ๊ฒ€์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:53
So there is something that can help you, but also something that might actually be damaging as well.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ผ์น  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:59
And I think the worst one, Steve, is when you become famous, but you don't want to be famous.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์กŒ์ง€๋งŒ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋•Œ์•ผ.
70:05
Maybe by accident you become famous, maybe there is someone filming an event
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์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์กŒ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฒคํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
70:12
taking place and you are doing something, and maybe you are having just a moment of time where where you are enjoying yourself.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ์ € ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:20
Maybe you are doing a silly dance, or maybe you are pulling a very strange face
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์šฐ์Šค๊ฝ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ถค์„ ์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์•„์ฃผ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
70:28
and that person films what you are doing, and then suddenly
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ
70:33
that short video goes onto the internet and then everyone knows who you are, but you have no control over that.
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๊ทธ ์งง์€ ๋น„๋””์˜ค๊ฐ€ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์— ํผ์ง€๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ†ต์ œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๊ฒƒ.
70:42
And I think this is one of the big problems now with being famous.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๋ฐ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
70:47
If you are well known and you have no control over it, that is the worst kind of fame because you quite often
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ž˜ ์•Œ๋ ค์ ธ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ†ต์ œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ตœ์•…์˜ ๋ช…์„ฑ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€
70:57
you get nothing from it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:59
So you won't earn money, you won't become rich and famous, you will just become famous,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ์ง€๋„, ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€์ง€๋„ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ
71:07
maybe for doing something very silly.
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์•„์ฃผ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•ด์„œ
71:09
And of course, once you are at that level, you've got to be.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ผ๋‹จ ๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:13
You probably want to remain famous.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์œ ๋ช…์„ธ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:16
And that that has its own pressures.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ ์ž์ฒด์˜ ์••๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:19
Boy bands, a lot of people become famous and they're not really being looked after or protect it from the, the effects of fame.
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๋ณด์ด ๋ฐด๋“œ, ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์กŒ์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ณด์‚ดํ•Œ์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ช…์„ฑ์˜ ์˜ํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ณดํ˜ธ๋ฐ›์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:29
And as we all know, recently a famous boy band member died,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋“ค ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ตœ๊ทผ ์œ ๋ช… ๋ณด์ด๋ฐด๋“œ ๋ฉค๋ฒ„๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋งํ•˜๊ณ ,
71:35
fell out of a window in,
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์ฐฝ๋ฌธ์—์„œ ๋–จ์–ด์กŒ๋Š”๋ฐ,
71:39
was it brand Aries? I think it was in Argentina.
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๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์•„๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ์˜€๋‚˜์š”? ์•„๋ฅดํ—จํ‹ฐ๋‚˜์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
71:41
Was in Buenos Aires. It was in Argentina. Yes, yes. Liam.
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๋ถ€์—๋…ธ์Šค์•„์ด๋ ˆ์Šค์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋ฅดํ—จํ‹ฐ๋‚˜์—์„œ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฆฌ์•”.
71:45
Remember his name? Liam Payne. Liam Payne. Yes. That's right. Who,
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ด๋ฆ„ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜? ๋ฆฌ์•” ํŽ˜์ธ. ๋ฆฌ์•” ํŽ˜์ธ. ์˜ˆ. ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋น„๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชฉ์ˆจ์„ ์žƒ์€
71:50
tragically lost his life. But that was all due to the pressures of fame.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ช…์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์••๋ฐ• ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:55
And something we've noticed before.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ „์— ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:59
Mr. Duncan, is that rich, famous people often take risks,
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๋˜์ปจ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜, ๋ถ€์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ข…์ข… ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:06
because often to become successful in business
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์‚ฌ์—…์—์„œ ์„ฑ๊ณต
72:11
or in whatever it is you become famous or successful in, you have to be a have a certain mentality.
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ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์—์„œ๋“  ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:19
Well, sir.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”.
72:20
Yes. Taking risks, a certain way of thinking. Yes.
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์˜ˆ. ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์‹. ์˜ˆ.
72:24
You get a thrill from that. And, and
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์Šค๋ฆด์„ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
72:28
but even by accident, for example, if you, if you, if you've got a lot of money,
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ๋ผ๋„, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ์ด ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋ฉด
72:35
then you might want to get from one place to another in a helicopter for example. Yes.
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ํ—ฌ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ํ•œ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
72:41
And we know that helicopters, prone to falling out of the sky.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ—ฌ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š˜์—์„œ ๋–จ์–ด์ง€๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:46
Well, they're not they're not prone to it.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:48
Well, the if I fall more prone to it, then, that that, of plane that.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ๋” ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ, ์ €๊ฒƒ, ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ ์ €๊ฒƒ์— ๋” ์ทจ์•ฝํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:53
Yes, but that means that that's happening all the time. Well, but you know what I'm saying?
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์˜ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ์•„?
72:58
You're always hearing if of rich, successful people, dying in helicopter crash. Yes.
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๋ถ€์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ—ฌ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅํ„ฐ ์ถ”๋ฝ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋กœ ์ฃฝ์–ด๊ฐ„๋‹ค๋Š” ์†Œ์‹์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
73:05
Well, private.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋น„๊ณต๊ฐœ.
73:06
Well, they start, they decide to learn to fly or something like that.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋น„ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฒ•์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:12
It's a they do something risky because they want.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:15
Because their personality is they want to push the boundaries of to see what they can do, which is an admirable, admirable quality
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋„“ํžˆ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
73:22
to have to to give yourself a goal, to push your limits of your ability.
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์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๊ณ  ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์˜ ํ•œ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋›ฐ์–ด ๋„˜๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ž์งˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
73:28
But then at the same time that then becomes dangerous.
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋™์‹œ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:31
I mean the, there was that case of
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
73:35
that famous, I can't remember his name now.
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, ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค.
73:37
He was a famous rich, I think, billionaire businessman decided he wanted to go and see the Titanic,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ๋ถ€์ž์˜€๊ณ , ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์–ต๋งŒ์žฅ์ž ์‚ฌ์—…๊ฐ€๋Š” ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰ํ˜ธ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํƒ€์ดํƒ€๋‹‰
73:45
which is very deep in the ocean and went down in one of these,
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์€ ์•„์ฃผ ๊นŠ์€ ๋ฐ”๋‹ค์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ ์žฅ์น˜๋ผ๋“ ๊ฐ€
73:52
Devices or whatever you call it, like a submarine, that takes you deep in the ocean.
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๋ญ๋ผ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋“  ์ž ์ˆ˜ํ•จ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์นจ๋ชฐํ•˜์—ฌ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ”๋‹ค ๊นŠ์€ ๊ณณ.
73:58
Of course, it's dangerous to do that.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๋‹ค.
74:00
And, it imploded and everyone was killed.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํญ๋ฐœํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:05
The point I'm making is that quite often rich, successful, or famous people will do risky things because it's it's almost in their nature.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์š”์ ์€ ๋ถ€์ž, ์„ฑ๊ณต์ž, ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ณธ์„ฑ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:14
That's how they became rich and famous in the first place.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์• ์ดˆ์— ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:19
Because they, they taking risks and they'd like to do, like to push the boundaries of what they can do.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ์ž์‹ ์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์˜ ํ•œ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋„˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:25
That's it.
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74:25
But I think, I think yes, I think, I think it's in in their nature to take those risks.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ณธ์„ฑ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:30
And sometimes you can't stop doing it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถœ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:32
It's almost like an addiction.
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ์ค‘๋…๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:34
You can't stop doing things that are dangerous.
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์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถœ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:36
And eventually, maybe, perhaps something bad will happen.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‚˜์œ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:42
So fame is often seen as a glamorous thing.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ช…์„ฑ์€ ์ข…์ข… ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ„์ฃผ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:46
But I can tell you now, though, I'm going to tell you something because something did happen to me
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „ ์ค‘๊ตญ์— ์‚ด ๋•Œ
74:53
a few years ago when I was living in China,
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์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
74:57
I did I I'm not going to say I became a superstar, but I did become well known in certain area.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์Šˆํผ์Šคํƒ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ํŠน์ • ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:04
Yes. Locally, where you were. Yes. Because I was on television.
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์˜ˆ. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์žˆ๋˜ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ. ์˜ˆ. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ…”๋ ˆ๋น„์ „์— ๋‚˜์™”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋‹ค.
75:08
The local TV station had used me for certain things, and then I appeared a couple of times, English speaking contests as the judge.
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์ง€์—ญ TV ๋ฐฉ์†ก๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ €๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์— ์ด์šฉํ–ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ํ›„ ์ €๋Š” ์˜์–ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋Œ€ํšŒ์— ์‹ฌ์‚ฌ์œ„์›์œผ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ์ถœ์—ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:18
And, and I even performed a song that was broadcast on television.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ํ…”๋ ˆ๋น„์ „์— ๋ฐฉ์†ก๋œ ๋…ธ๋ž˜๋„ ๋ถˆ๋ €์–ด์š”.
75:23
So in the local area, I did become quite well-known, quite famous, and it did happen.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ๊ฝค ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฝค ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์กŒ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:29
So I've had
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
75:31
a taste of fame, even on TV as well.
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TV์—์„œ๋„ ์œ ๋ช…์„ธ๋ฅผ ๋ง›๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š” .
75:35
Yes, that's TV, that's it, that's what? Yes.
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์‘, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ TV์•ผ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ์•ผ? ์˜ˆ.
75:38
So, so because because people recognise me from television, they would see me in the street and they would know who I was,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ TV์—์„œ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
75:45
which was okay at first.
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์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:49
But I have to say, after a while it did become rather annoying because I didn't have
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ผ๋งˆ ํ›„์—๋Š” ์žฌ์‚ฐ์ด ์—†์–ด์„œ
75:55
I didn't have the fortune,
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์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ์งœ์ฆ์ด ๋‚ฌ์–ด์š” .
75:57
so I would walk around the town doing my shopping and people would come up to me and start talking to me
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‡ผํ•‘์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋™๋„ค๋ฅผ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณค ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™€์„œ ๋ง์„ ๊ฑธ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
76:02
and asking me questions, and then just just general things.
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๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ์—๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋งŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:07
I think for two reasons. One, because they recognised me.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค. ํ•˜๋‚˜, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋‹ค.
76:10
But also the other thing was because I'm an English teacher, so they knew that.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜€์–ด์š”.
76:15
So so I think there were two things happening there.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:18
But after a while it did become a little
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์งœ์ฆ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
76:24
annoying and difficult, especially when people were starting to turn up in the area where I lived.
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. ํŠนํžˆ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด์•˜๋˜ ์ง€์—ญ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋”์šฑ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:30
And they were asking all of the shops and the shopkeepers where I lived that that was that was the point where I realised
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒ์ ๊ณผ ์ƒ์  ์ฃผ์ธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
76:39
that being famous or well-known, even in a small area, is not
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ž‘์€ ์ง€์—ญ์ด๋ผ ํ• ์ง€๋ผ๋„
76:45
a good thing,
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์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์€ ์ง€์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
76:48
because I've I've had it happen to me for real.
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. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:51
So if you'd stayed, you could have become you were a local celebrity, I would say, when you were in China. Yes.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ณ„์† ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ €๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ค‘๊ตญ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ํ˜„์ง€ ์—ฐ์˜ˆ์ธ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์˜ˆ.
76:58
But this is how a lot of, famous people start off.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:05
They become popular in a local area, and then they spread out from there.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ•œ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ํ›„ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํผ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:10
So you could have you could have been popular all over China if you'd stayed.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ณ„์† ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ €๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ค‘๊ตญ ์ „์—ญ์—์„œ ์ธ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:15
Well, have I stayed in this teaching school?
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‚˜๋Š”์ด ๊ต์œก ํ•™๊ต์— ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ €์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
77:17
Have I stayed there?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ €๋‚˜์š”?
77:18
I don't think things would have worked out quite well
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์ค‘๊ตญ ์ž์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ 
77:20
because China itself was changing and it was changing into something that was the opposite
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€ํ‘œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ผ์ด ์ž˜ ํ’€๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
77:28
to to the things I represented, if that makes sense, because China wants to go in a different direction.
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. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ง์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ค‘๊ตญ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:35
So I was useful there at that point in time.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์œ ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:39
However, had I stayed there, I probably would, have ended up leaving anyway
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ €๋”๋ผ๋ฉด ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๋– ๋‚˜๊ณ  ๋ง์•˜์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:48
because the the political system and the climate, the political climate in China was changing.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ค‘๊ตญ์˜ ์ •์น˜ ์ฒด์ œ์™€ ๊ธฐํ›„, ์ •์น˜ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:56
Even while I was there. I could tell things were were changing.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ์—๋„. ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:59
But having fame is not necessarily a good thing. I will be honest with you.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋ช…์„ฑ์„ ์–ป๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:04
There is always a price to pay,
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋Œ€๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ,
78:08
and I it's a privacy basically, isn't it? Yes.
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ •๋ณด ๋ณดํ˜ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์˜ˆ.
78:12
You you can't go out of the house.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ง‘ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:15
People will start to try and find you and they will bother you when you're walking around the street, which is nice.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๊ท€์ฐฎ๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:22
It is lovely, don't get me wrong, but it can be a little annoying as well.
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์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜คํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์งœ์ฆ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šธ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:30
Fortunately, here in the UK.
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๋‹คํ–‰ํžˆ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”์š”.
78:35
No one cares who I am so I can walk around the streets.
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
78:39
I can go anywhere and people won't know me, even though I think a couple of times in Much Wenlock,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋””๋“  ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จธ์น˜ ์›ฌ๋ก(Much Wenlock)์—์„œ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ์ด๋‚˜
78:45
someone came up to me and asked if I was Mr.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ Mr.
78:48
Duncan, but I have a feeling that maybe they were local and perhaps they had seen me on the internet.
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Duncan์ธ์ง€ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํ˜„์ง€์ธ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
78:53
Maybe. Who knows?
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์•„๋งˆ๋„. ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
78:57
But this is the thing. You see, this is the thing about what we do, Steve.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
79:02
You never know.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:03
We might do something on here one week and then it becomes viral and then suddenly everyone knows who we are.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ๋™์•ˆ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ž…์†Œ๋ฌธ์ด ๋‚˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:12
How would you feel about that, Mr.. Steve? Would you like to be famous?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ? ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‚˜์š”?
79:16
No, I think I'll.
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์•„๋‹ˆ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
79:17
I'll take the ransac approach, which is rich, but not famous.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ’๋ถ€ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์€ ransac ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ํƒํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:22
But then it must be. It must be, I would
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:27
be interested to see what it
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด
79:28
feels like to be famous, because I think, and somebody pointed this out earlier.
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์–ด๋–ค ๋А๋‚Œ์ผ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” . ์•ž์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ด ์ ์„ ์ง€์ ํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
79:35
You must feel almost invulnerable.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ฌด์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋А๊ปด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:38
I think you probably.
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์•„๋งˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:40
I mean, we're talking from our perspective, really not being famous people, but, it
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
79:46
it must be that you start to to think that you're almost invulnerable,
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ฌด์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ 
79:53
and that, sort of normal life events can't affect you and that nothing could possibly happen to you. Yes.
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์‚ถ์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋„ˆ์—๊ฒ ์•„๋ฌด ์ผ๋„ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ. ์˜ˆ.
80:02
And maybe you believe too much what you're saying, particularly if you're.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋”์šฑ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:08
I'm thinking now of a famous sort of health expert who was a doctor,
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์ €๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์˜๊ตญ์˜ ํ•œ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์˜์‚ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
80:14
in the UK, had a television programme, a series of programmes all about improving your health.
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. ๊ทธ๋Š” TV ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ, ์ฆ‰ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ฐœ์„ ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ผ๋ จ์˜ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:20
He was actually a medical doctor.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์˜์‚ฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:23
And, a lot of his work was around exercise and pushing your body,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ์˜ ์ž‘์—…์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์šด๋™๊ณผ ์‹ ์ฒด ์šด๋™์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:30
in order to extend your life was part of part of the something he used to talk about.
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์ˆ˜๋ช…์„ ์—ฐ์žฅํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:36
He used to undergo, intra sting, procedures for medical science.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์˜ํ•™์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ ˆ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ถ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒช๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:43
And the TV, for example, he got himself infected with a tapeworm. Deliberately?
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด TV๋Š” ์ดŒ์ถฉ์— ๊ฐ์—ผ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ์˜๋กœ?
80:48
Yeah, once. Just to see what happens when you get infected with a tapeworm.
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์‘, ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ. ์ดŒ์ถฉ์— ๊ฐ์—ผ๋˜๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š”์ง€ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:53
But he was very well known in the UK, and he was always doing extreme exercise.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ์›Œ๋‚™ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์„œ ๋Š˜ ๊ณผ๊ฒฉํ•œ ์šด๋™์„ ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
80:58
And unfortunately, he decided, when he was on holiday in a great I think it was a Greek island
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Š” ํœด๊ฐ€ ์ค‘์ด์—ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
81:04
in sort of 45 degree heat to go off on a long trek into the hills.
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45๋„ ์ •๋„์˜ ์—ด๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์Šค ์„ฌ์—์„œ ์–ธ๋•์œผ๋กœ ๊ธด ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๋– ๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:08
And sadly died.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ˆํƒ€๊น๊ฒŒ๋„ ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ๋– ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:11
And I think that's a case of, of
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
81:14
maybe you've just got things out of proportion, the sense of danger and reality.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ„ํ—˜๊ณผ ํ˜„์‹ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์„ ๋ถˆ๊ท ํ˜•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:21
You're pushing things a bit too far.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ผ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:24
Because maybe you've become used to that fame, or you don't think anything can happen to you.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ๋ช…์„ฑ์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์กŒ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์•„๋ฌด ์ผ๋„ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:31
But of course, if you push the limits of what the human body is capable of. Yes.
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ์ธ์ฒด๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋„˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
81:36
If you don't have that support there at the time you need it, then you it's you're taking a risk. Yes.
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ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ง€์›์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
81:42
It's it's the difference between fame and the illusion that it presents and reality,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ช…์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ํ™˜์ƒ๊ณผ
81:48
which sometimes when you become famous or wealthy and famous, you might forget all about the reality of life.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถ€์œ ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด ์‚ถ์˜ ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ˜„์‹ค์˜ ์ฐจ์ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
81:58
You almost become trapped in your fame and it becomes linguistic.
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. ๋ช…์„ฑ์— ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ฐ‡ํžˆ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ  ์–ธ์–ด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:05
I'm sorry.
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์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:07
I was just saying. Yes. Christine? Yes. You've got the name right. I couldn't think of the name.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ. ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ด? ์˜ˆ. ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ๋งž๋„ค์š”. ์ด๋ฆ„์ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์•ˆ ๋‚˜๋”๋ผ๊ตฌ์š”.
82:13
Okay.
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82:13
Yeah. Become. What would you say you become?
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
์‘. ์ด ๋˜๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
82:15
Yeah. You become.
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์‘. ๋‹น์‹ ์€๋œ๋‹ค.
82:16
You're almost in a bubble of, Where
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ํ˜„์‹ค ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ์‚ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”
82:20
you're not really living in the real world anymore.
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๊ฑฐํ’ˆ ์†์— ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋“ค์–ด์™€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
82:23
Even the physical, real world.
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๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์ ์ธ ํ˜„์‹ค ์„ธ๊ณ„๋„์š”.
82:25
And you lose perception of of maybe what stand for so many.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ƒ์ง•ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ธ์‹์„ ์žƒ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:29
If you were a celebrity and you needed to get from one gig to another or something, you might.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์ด๊ณ  ํ•œ ๊ณต์—ฐ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณต์—ฐ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:35
Somebody might lay on a helicopter for you.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ—ฌ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅํ„ฐ์— ๋ˆ„์›Œ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:38
But, you know, it's quicker than driving from going on the train or flying, but.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ธฐ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‚˜ ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์šด์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋น ๋ฅด๊ธด ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ.
82:45
Yeah.
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์‘. ํ—ฌ๋ฆฌ์ฝฅํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋” ํฐ ์œ„ํ—˜์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
82:46
Is that I'm not saying helicopters are dangerous, but, you know, is that a bigger risk?
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82:52
There was there was a somebody recently.
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์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:55
He was. Oh, it was a football player. Okay.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋‹ค. ์•„, ์ถ•๊ตฌ์„ ์ˆ˜์˜€๊ตฐ์š”. ์ข‹์•„์š”.
82:58
He was travelling back from France,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด
83:02
back to England for a match.
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ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์—์„œ ์˜๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ค‘์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
83:04
I think it was last year or the year before, and they had to go from one match to another match.
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. ์ž‘๋…„์ธ๊ฐ€ ์žฌ์ž‘๋…„์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ•œ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ฒจ์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:11
I think it was a football player. He was playing on the team. I have no idea. Yes.
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์ถ•๊ตฌ์„ ์ˆ˜์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋Š” ํŒ€์—์„œ ๋›ฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
83:16
And they had to be at a certain place back in England for another football match
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ถ•๊ตฌ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋‚˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•ฝํ˜ผ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์˜๊ตญ์˜ ํŠน์ • ์žฅ์†Œ์— ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
83:23
or had another engagement, and they took a private plane, a small private plane, somewhere from France back to England.
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, ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์—์„œ ์˜๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ๊ฐœ์ธ ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ์ธ ๊ฐœ์ธ ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:31
And it got caught in bad weather and it crashed and he was killed along with the pilot.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•…์ฒœํ›„์— ํœ˜๋ง๋ ค ์ถ”๋ฝํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋„ ์กฐ์ข…์‚ฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ฌ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:37
Pilot, of course.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ํŒŒ์ผ๋Ÿฟ์ด์ฃ .
83:39
But, you know, a commercial airline would have been a lot safer.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ƒ์—…์šฉ ํ•ญ๊ณต์‚ฌ๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์•ˆ์ „ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:44
And so I'm just saying you maybe get yourself involved in these more risky endeavours, if you if you become rich and famous.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง„๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋” ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์— ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:53
Yes, but it's not all.
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์˜ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:54
It's not all about being killed anyway.
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์ฃฝ์ž„์„ ๋‹นํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ „๋ถ€๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:56
It's sometimes it's just having fame and then misusing it.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ช…์„ฑ์„ ์–ป์€ ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜ค์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:01
And one of the big problems, I think, with it, with being famous, is quite often you will end up surrounded
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
84:08
by people who won't say no to you.
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฑฐ์ ˆ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ธ์—ฌ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:14
So you believe your own publicity.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ™๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:17
And this is one of the things that we talk about when we talk about the price of fame.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ช…์„ฑ์˜ ๋Œ€๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:21
Sometimes you can believe your own publicity.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ํ™๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:26
That means all of the things that the newspapers are printing about you and all the nice things they are saying.
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์ด๋Š” ์‹ ๋ฌธ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ณด๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:33
You actually believe that all of that is true when most of it is just hype
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒƒ, ๋…ธ๋ž˜, ์˜ํ™”, ์‡ผ ๋“ฑ์„ ํ™๋ณดํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
84:39
to to to promote your thing, your song, your movie, your show, anything.
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๊ณผ๋Œ€ ๊ด‘๊ณ ์ผ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
84:45
And I think that's part of the risk when you become famous is you are always going
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์งˆ ๋•Œ ์œ„ํ—˜์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ 
84:53
to have people around you that will they will agree with everything you say.
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์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์— ๋™์˜ํ•  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹  ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ํ•ญ์ƒ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:59
No one will ever say.
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:01
I don't think that's a good idea.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:03
I don't think you should build a huge swimming pool
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์ •์›์—
85:07
in your garden
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๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์„ ์ง“๊ณ 
85:09
and have lots of luxurious parties late at night around the pool.
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๋Šฆ์€ ๋ฐค ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—์„œ ํ˜ธํ™”๋กœ์šด ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ์—ด๋ฉด ์•ˆ ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”
85:14
Can I just say that that might not be a good idea
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. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์—ฐ์˜ˆ์ธ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ
85:19
if you are a celebrity, if you are becoming famous, there is one piece of advice I can give you.
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, ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ํ•ด์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค.
85:26
Never get a swimming pool, have a house, have a lovely garden.
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์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ๋„ ์—†๊ณ , ์ง‘๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์ •์›๋„ ๊ฐ–์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
85:33
But don't.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
85:35
Whatever you do, don't have a swimming pool.
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๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๋“  ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:39
And certainly if you do want a swimming pool, don't invite lots of people around, where there's lots of alcohol and
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์„ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ˆ ๊ณผ
85:46
and other substances available. Don't do it.
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๊ธฐํƒ€ ๋ฌผ์งˆ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
85:49
I think if you if you look across history, Steve, it's celebrities and celebrities
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์—ญ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋ฉด ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ,
85:58
involved with swimming pools.
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์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ๊ณผ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:00
Quite often the story is a bad one.
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:03
It doesn't it doesn't end well.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ๋ง์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:04
So if you are famous, don't have a swimming pool, leave the swimming pool somewhere else.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์ด ์—†์œผ๋ฉด ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๋– ๋‚˜์„ธ์š”.
86:10
Fill it in. Even if you move into a house and there is a swimming pool, just fill it.
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์ฑ„์›Œ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ์ง‘์— ์ด์‚ฌ์˜ค๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์ด ์žˆ์–ด๋„ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ฑ„์›Œ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
86:15
Fill it full of concrete because it will eventually bring lots of bad luck.
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถˆ์šด์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ฝ˜ํฌ๋ฆฌํŠธ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฑ„์šฐ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
86:21
Let mentioned something earlier that yeah.
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์˜ˆ, ์ด์ „์— ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:26
Yes. Even if you are famous when when you're gone.
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์˜ˆ. ๋น„๋ก ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋– ๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„.
86:31
When you've left this
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด
86:33
earth, mortal coil.
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์ง€๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋– ๋‚  ๋•Œ, ํ•„๋ฉธ์˜ ์ฝ”์ผ.
86:36
And I'm really cheerful today.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์•„์š”.
86:38
Well, I'm just saying, when you have, then it's not long before everybody just forgets about you.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ๋จธ์ง€์•Š์•„ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:45
And it's, you know, unless you are really, really famous or infamous.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ •๋ง ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์•…๋ช… ๋†’์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋ฉด ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
86:51
Yeah.
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์‘.
86:52
Then you will not be remembered for very long.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:57
Yeah. Just the same as all of us, really. I mean, we think of,
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์‘. ์ •๋ง ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘์™€ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ
87:02
we're only we're only remembered, really, as long as there are people still alive.
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๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•„์ง ์‚ด์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ์—๋งŒ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋  ๋ฟ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:07
Remember us?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
87:09
And when they're gone, then we go, oh, there you, Mr. Duncan.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„, ์ €๊ธฐ์š”, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
87:13
Well, have your YouTube channel.
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์Œ, YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”.
87:17
People will be able to watch you in a thousand years time.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ฒœ๋…„ ํ›„์— ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:21
Well, maybe, if YouTube is still allowing you on that.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, YouTube์—์„œ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ํ—ˆ์šฉํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:25
Well, if YouTube still exists, if YouTube still exists, if the internet still exists, you see. So.
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์Œ, YouTube๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, YouTube๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ.
87:31
So everything I do could just vanish completely without any warning.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์ด ์•„๋ฌด๋Ÿฐ ์˜ˆ๊ณ ๋„ ์—†์ด ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:38
So if YouTube suddenly stopped being a company, if the internet suddenly stopped working,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์ด ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
87:44
or maybe it became illegal to have the internet, suddenly I would vanish.
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ด ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:50
It would be like
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
87:52
a light being switched off.
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๋งˆ์น˜ ๋ถˆ์ด ๊บผ์ง„ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค .
87:54
Who was Brian Jones?
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๋ธŒ๋ผ์ด์–ธ ์กด์Šค๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
87:57
He was a member. Now I want to say.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ํšŒ์›์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค.
88:01
I want to say the who, but it probably isn't.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
88:05
But the Brian Jones died in a swimming pool.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ธŒ๋ผ์ด์–ธ ์กด์Šค๋Š” ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
88:08
He died it that so that there might be a very long list of celebrities who came to a bad end,
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒฐ๋ง์„ ๋งž์ดํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์Šค์บ”๋“ค์— ์—ฐ๋ฃจ๋œ
88:16
or of course, were involved in some sort of scandal connected to a swimming pool.
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์œ ๋ช…์ธ์˜ ๋ชฉ๋ก์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธธ๋„๋ก ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
88:22
We have at least two in this country.
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.
88:24
In England, there at least two people who
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์ด ๋‚˜๋ผ์—๋Š” ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋‘ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
88:27
who over the years have been involved in swimming pool situations that did not turn out very well.
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์˜๊ตญ์—๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋…„์— ๊ฑธ์ณ ์ˆ˜์˜์žฅ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์—ฐ๋ฃจ๋œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ด ์ ์–ด๋„ ๋‘ ๋ช… ์ด์ƒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
88:35
That's all I'm saying.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ „๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
88:37
The other one to be wary of is if you become rich and famous.
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๋˜ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
88:41
Rolling Stones rolling stones, I think might get it wrong.
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Rolling Stones ๋กค๋ง ์Šคํ†ค์ฆˆ, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ํ‹€๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
88:45
So I, I'm not a big fan of the Rolling Stones, you see, and they are a little bit before my time.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” Rolling Stones์˜ ์—ด๋ ฌํ•œ ํŒฌ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ๋Œ€์— ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์•ž์„œ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
88:52
Yeah.
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88:52
I mean, I think you do.
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์‘.
์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
88:54
See, I don't know if you were to take some, analysis and look at the average life
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๋ณด์„ธ์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ธ ๊ณผ ๋น„๊ตํ•˜์—ฌ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์ด๋‚˜ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜
89:02
expectancy of a of a celebrity or a famous person compared to the general population. Yes.
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ํ‰๊ท  ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ ์ˆ˜๋ช…์„ ๋ถ„์„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ˆ.
89:08
It's the perception is that quite a lot of celebrities seem to die.
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์—ฐ์˜ˆ์ธ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ฃฝ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ์ธ์‹์ด ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๋‹ค.
89:13
But isn't it, you know, of of accidents or drugs or something.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋‚˜ ๋งˆ์•ฝ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
89:19
Yeah, but is that any more in proportion to the a normal population or not.
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๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ •์ƒ ์ธ๊ตฌ์— ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋น„๋ก€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
89:26
Yeah. Well I don't know that because we well, we just happened to hear about it because the famous.
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์‘. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ๊ทธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:31
It's on the television. Yes.
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ํ…”๋ ˆ๋น„์ „์— ๋‚˜์™€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์˜ˆ.
89:32
Because if you, if, if the, if the person that lives down the road from us who nobody knows
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด, ๋งŒ์•ฝ, ๋งŒ์•ฝ์—, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์˜†์— ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
89:39
falls down the stairs and breaks their neck, no one cares because no one knows who they are.
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๊ณ„๋‹จ์—์„œ ๋–จ์–ด์ ธ ๋ชฉ์ด ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์ง„๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:45
But if a famous person does the same thing, suddenly it's huge news.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๋‰ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:50
Yeah. So your perception is that
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์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€
89:53
a higher proportion of rich and famous people die young. Yes.
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๋ถ€์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋น„์œจ์ด ๋” ๋†’๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
89:58
Which of course, some people don't mind as they probably don't like them anyway. Okay.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์•„์š”.
90:04
It's just, these these are weird, weird directions.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ, ์ด๊ฑด ์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด์ƒํ•œ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์ด์—์š”.
90:08
There's always some. There's always a bit of jealousy, isn't there? But I don't I don't think celebrities die young.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ญ์ƒ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์งˆํˆฌ์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”? ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฐ์˜ˆ์ธ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์ฐ ์ฃฝ๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค.
90:13
I think a lot of them,
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„
90:16
normally they fade away and then eventually you hear of them again, but normally after they've died.
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์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ณดํ†ต์€ ์ฃฝ์€ ํ›„์— ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:23
So I think fame fades and then the person dies, and then you, then you hear about them again and and everyone goes, oh, I remember him.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ช…์„ฑ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ฃฝ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ '์•„, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜๋„ค์š”'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:33
I remember that that woman. Yeah. She used to be in that TV show.
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๊ทธ ์—ฌ์ž ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜๋„ค์š”. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ TV ์‡ผ์— ์ถœ์—ฐํ–ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
90:38
So I think fame is a strange thing.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋ช…์„ฑ์ด ์ด์ƒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:41
We often describe fame as fickle.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๋ช…์„ฑ์„ ๋ณ€๋•์Šค๋Ÿฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:45
Fickle. So you might be famous today,
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๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฌ์šด. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ,
90:49
but suddenly tomorrow, no one cares who you are.
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋‚ด์ผ์ด๋ฉด ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋‘์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:52
And that in itself is very stressful.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ž์ฒด๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:56
For somebody who likes being famous and, I always remember,
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
91:04
you know, getting an insight into what it was like to be, a famous performer and the stresses that are involved.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ์— ์ˆ˜๋ฐ˜๋˜๋Š” ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ†ต์ฐฐ๋ ฅ์„ ์–ป์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:12
I saw an interview by Shirley Bassey.
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Shirley Bassey์˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:16
It was of course, I'm a great fan of it was her birthday last week
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ €๋ฒˆ์ฃผ ์ƒ์ผ
91:21
with her birthday last week, and it was also Rod Stewart who was 80, I believe.
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๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ง€๋‚œ์ฃผ ์ƒ์ผ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , 80์„ธ์ธ ๋กœ๋“œ ์ŠคํŠœ์–ดํŠธ(Rod Stewart)๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:26
So he's still going despite the excesses of his youth. Yes.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ Š์Œ์˜ ๊ณผ์ž‰์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
91:30
So yeah.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
91:32
Yeah.
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91:32
So yeah, I want you if you've got a talent and you, you start to become famous.
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์‘.
๋„ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:40
The pressure is then on you to keep on performing at a higher level.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋” ๋†’์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์••๋ ฅ์ด ๊ฐ€ํ•ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:47
Yeah, well, maintaining that level. Yeah.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ์‘.
91:50
Otherwise people start to criticise.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋น„๋‚œํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:52
That must be an incredible stress, on you.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค์ž„์— ํ‹€๋ฆผ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:56
Yes. But. Well, Well, being famous,
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์˜ˆ. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด
92:01
they say becoming famous is normally the easy part.
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‰ฌ์šด ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:05
Staying famous is the hard one.
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์œ ๋ช…์„ธ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ด๋‹ค.
92:09
Because there are two things that come around.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:12
If you are famous, there is, of course, your your own talent, your health, your age as you get older.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์žฌ๋Šฅ๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก ๋‚˜์ด๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:22
So you might fade away as you get older.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๋ฉด์„œ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:25
Also, there are other people as well who might be coming along, so you might be the greatest entertainer in the world.
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๋˜ํ•œ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์—ฐ์˜ˆ์ธ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:33
But suddenly there is a younger, more attractive entertainer coming along and he is more sexy and more talented than you.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋” ์ Š๊ณ  ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ์—ฐ์˜ˆ์ธ์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋”๋‹ˆ, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์„น์‹œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žฌ๋Šฅ๋„ ๋” ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:44
And then slowly you get pushed out and this new person replaces you.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฐ€๋ ค๋‚˜๊ณ  ์ด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋Œ€์‹ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:50
But of course, talent, if you've got real star quality talent, this is something that, famous people often do.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์žฌ๋Šฅ, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ์Šคํƒ€๊ธ‰ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ”ํžˆ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:59
They often behave very badly, don't they?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ข…์ข… ๋งค์šฐ ๋‚˜์œ ํ–‰๋™์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
93:03
Or arrogantly, when they become famous because they know that people want them on television?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ…”๋ ˆ๋น„์ „์— ์ถœ์—ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์˜ค๋งŒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์กŒ์„ ๋•Œ?
93:10
Yeah.
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93:10
Want to see them perform so bad behaviours start to come out like you might speak to people in a bad way.
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์‘.
๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‚˜์œ ํ–‰๋™์ด ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:18
You might start to have lots of tantrums.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งŽ์€ ์งœ์ฆ์„ ๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:20
I'm not going to mention James Corden, but I am going to mention James Corden.
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์ œ์ž„์Šค ์ฝ”๋“ ์€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ์ž„์Šค ์ฝ”๋“ ์€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:25
James Corden apparently is one of the worst celebrities for being an absolute.
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James Corden์€ ์ ˆ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:33
Now I want to say a really naughty word, but I can't.
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์ด์ œ ์ •๋ง ๋ชป๋œ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด์š”.
93:36
But let's just say he
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
93:41
he is someone who who in public, in a public situation, maybe a restaurant or something like that.
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๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ, ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ ˆ์Šคํ† ๋ž‘์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ์™€ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ 
93:48
He is not the most pleasant of people to know because they become arrogant, they become full of their own ego.
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๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด ๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Š” ์˜ค๋งŒํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ์ž์•„๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฐจ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•Œ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์œ ์พŒํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:57
So they think the whole world has to move around them because they are so successful and famous.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ฃผ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋…€์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:05
Yes. I mean, people with talents or another word to use for a talent is a gift.
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์˜ˆ. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์žฌ๋Šฅ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ๋˜๋Š” ์žฌ๋Šฅ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ง๋กœ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๋ฉด ์€์‚ฌ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:12
And I saw this once, mentioned quite recently, actually, in a video I was watching.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์•„์ฃผ ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ๋น„๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:19
If you have a a gift,
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
94:22
then it's been given to you.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ์–ด์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:25
So you've got that gift.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:27
So you shouldn't become arrogant about it because you've been given it.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์ฃผ์–ด์กŒ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ ๊ต๋งŒํ•ด์ ธ์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:32
So you've been lucky to have that. It's not that you've acquired that.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ํ–‰์šด์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํš๋“ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:37
You've been given that gift. And it's it should be used responsibly.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฑ…์ž„๊ฐ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:42
Token of of of of, celebrities who, who walk out, you know, in a flounce off and,
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์˜ ํ† ํฐ, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ณผ์‹œํ•˜๊ณ 
94:54
out of performances, walk off, they lose their temper.
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๊ณต์—ฐ์„ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ณ  ๋– ๋‚˜๋Š” ์œ ๋ช…์ธ๋“ค์€ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:58
I was reading, an interview about Maria Callas. Oh, yes.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์นผ๋ผ์Šค์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ์ฝ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
95:03
The other day.
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์š” ์ „๋‚ .
95:04
I don't know how I got into that, but I started watching,
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
95:07
and she was quite famous for sort of losing her temper, having tantrums, walking out of performances.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๊ณ , ์งœ์ฆ์„ ๋‚ด๊ณ , ๊ณต์—ฐ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฝค ์œ ๋ช…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:14
And you hear this a lot with performers.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณต์—ฐ์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:16
Pavarotti? I don't know.
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ํŒŒ๋ฐ”๋กœํ‹ฐ? ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:18
I don't think he used to walk out of performances, but he was always used to back out of performances.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ณต์—ฐ์žฅ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณค ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ, ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ณต์—ฐ์žฅ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐ๋Š” ์ต์ˆ™ํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
95:23
Was known for that. But,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
95:26
Maria Callas was famous for throwing tantrums, as was Shirley Bassey.
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Maria Callas๋Š” Shirley Bassey์™€ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ์งœ์ฆ์„ ๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:30
Can I just say I.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
95:32
I forgive Maria Callas because.
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๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์นผ๋ผ์Šค๋ฅผ ์šฉ์„œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด.
95:38
And there might be lots of people out there who've never seen her perform.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๊ณต์—ฐ์„ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:43
She was a goddess. Yeah. She was.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์—ฌ์‹ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋‹ค.
95:47
I've of performing.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ณต์—ฐ์„ ํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค.
95:50
She was a she wasn't a star.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์Šคํƒ€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:53
That that that that word is actually demeaning.
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๊ทธ ๋ง์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ํ’ˆ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋–จ์–ด๋œจ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:56
She was the most talented, one of the most talented human beings.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์žฌ๋Šฅ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ๊ณ , ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์žฌ๋Šฅ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ธ๊ฐ„ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:02
Certainly with her singing the style, the her ability.
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ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋…ธ๋ž˜ ์Šคํƒ€์ผ๊ณผ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด์š”.
96:07
So, I will actually forgive Maria Callas.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์นผ๋ผ์Šค๋ฅผ ์šฉ์„œํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:11
Oh, yes. Well, this is it. If you are that talented,
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ ์ •๋„ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
96:16
then you can probably do anything and get away with it because people will always want to see that talent.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฌด์‹œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:23
However, she explained in an interview I saw was only two years before she died because she died quite young, didn't she?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์ด ์ฃฝ๊ธฐ ๋ถˆ๊ณผ 2๋…„ ์ „์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์„ค๋ช…ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ฝค ์–ด๋ ค์„œ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
96:30
I think it was 77, 78, something like that.
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77, 78๋…„์ฏค์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
96:33
She died and, and she was, the interviewer was, was berating her berating.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋ฉด์ ‘๊ด€์€ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๊พธ์ง–๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:40
There's a good word, of, attacking almost, isn't it?
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ•  ๋ป”ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ง์ด ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
96:46
Berate. If you berate someone, you're bothering them. Attacking them.
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ํ˜ธ๋˜๊ฒŒ ๊พธ์ง–๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊พธ์ง–๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ดด๋กญํžˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๊ณต๊ฒฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:51
For her moments when she, loses a temper and walks out.
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๊ณ  ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„.
96:59
Apparently, she said she often used to do it deliberately.
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์•„๋ฌด๋ž˜๋„ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๊ณ ์˜๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ์ž์ฃผ ํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค.
97:02
Because all the other people around her, the musicians were not matching
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์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ์—ฐ์ฃผ์ž๋“ค ๋ชจ๋‘
97:10
up to her level of performance, and this was a method that she used.
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์—ฐ์ฃผ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ๋งž์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:15
So if she threw a tantrum and walked out, it was often because the musicians were being lazy
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๊ณ  ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข…์ข… ์Œ์•…๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด ๊ฒŒ์„๋Ÿฌ์„œ
97:22
and weren't coming up to a level of, of performance that she wanted.
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์—ฐ์ฃผ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:28
And, yeah, I used to. I saw this with Shirley Bassey as well.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๋„ค, ์ €๋„ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์š”. Shirley Bassey๋ž‘๋„ ๋ดค์–ด์š”.
97:32
She used to get into these stops because the microphones weren't working properly.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งˆ์ดํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ •๋ฅ˜์žฅ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:37
Other people weren't there. So talented. They have to bring everybody up.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ์žฌ๋Šฅ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:43
They have to bring their level of performance up to the to their level.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ค€์— ๋งž๋Š” ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ์˜ฌ๋ ค์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:48
And sometimes throwing a tantrum is the only way of doing it, apparently.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์งœ์ฆ์„ ๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:53
Well, yes. I suppose another one that I always think of is Elton John.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์—˜ํŠผ ์กด(Elton John)์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:56
He was very well known for for having real, real anger issues with people around him.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์‹ค์ œ์ ์ธ ๋ถ„๋…ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊ฒช๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ๋ช…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:04
And I think at least what I love about certain celebrities is they are they are willing to say
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ ์–ด๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํŠน์ • ์œ ๋ช…์ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
98:13
that they are not perfect people, unlike James Corden, who often says, oh, I'm a bit stressed.
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์ข…์ข… "์•„, ๋‚˜ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์–ด"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” James Corden๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์ด ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๊บผ์ด ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:19
Oh, I've got all my millions.
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์•„, ๋‚œ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
98:21
I have to count my millions of pounds every day. It's very stressful.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งค์ผ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์‚ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:26
I want my egg done properly. Send that egg back.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด ๊ณ„๋ž€์ด ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์™„์„ฑ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๋‹ฌ๊ฑ€์„ ๋Œ๋ ค๋ณด๋‚ด์„ธ์š”.
98:31
Apparently, he once had a real tantrum in a restaurant over an egg.
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ•œ๋•Œ ์‹๋‹น์—์„œ ๊ณ„๋ž€ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ง ์งœ์ฆ์„ ๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:37
And this is it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
98:38
You see, this is what happens when you become famous. So I forgive Maria Callas.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์นผ๋ผ์Šค๋ฅผ ์šฉ์„œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:43
I don't forgive James Corden.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ œ์ž„์Šค ์ฝ”๋“ ์„ ์šฉ์„œํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค.
98:46
One of one person has talent, the other one
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ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
98:50
zero talent.
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์žฌ๋Šฅ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:51
And that is my take. It's not beauty.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์›€์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:54
If you've got something, if you've got this gift, if something's being given to you when you were born, you could say, you know,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ด ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํƒœ์–ด๋‚  ๋•Œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์€
99:03
a gift from God.
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์‹ ์ด ์ฃผ์‹  ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:04
You could say some people might look at it that way, or it's, you've got this genetic ability, you've got your beautiful,
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์œ ์ „์  ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๊ณ ,
99:12
good looking or handsome, then, you know, you can understand why people will become, bad.
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์ž˜์ƒ๊ฒผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ž˜์ƒ๊ฒผ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์™œ ๋‚˜๋น ์ง€๋Š”์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:23
You know, their behaviour could become quite arrogant because they know they've got something that you want,
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํ–‰๋™์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋งค์šฐ ์˜ค๋งŒํ•ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
99:31
and, and thus they don't have to be quite so nice to you as they otherwise would do.
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, ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„ ๋•Œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์•„์ฃผ ์นœ์ ˆํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:37
Yes, but you can almost forgive it.
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์˜ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์šฉ์„œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:40
Live as you say, like Maria Callas, Shirley Bassey, if they've got a great talent, because, I don't know.
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๋‹น์‹  ๋ง๋Œ€๋กœ ์‚ด์•„์š”. ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„ ์นผ๋ผ์Šค, ์…œ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐฐ์‹œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์š”. ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
99:47
You forgive. You forgive some people everything. Don't you?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์šฉ์„œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์šฉ์„œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
99:49
Even beautiful people get away with one.
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์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋„ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฉด ๋„๋ง๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:53
Well, the phrases, you know, you could get away with murder if you are
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์‚ด์ธ์„ ์ €์ง€๋ฅด๊ณ ๋„ ๋ฌด์‚ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
99:59
attractive enough.
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.
100:00
And I think that there is some truth to that. Okay.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์ง„์‹ค์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์•„์š”.
100:04
I'm not sure how true that is.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:07
I would, I would leave definitely leave that one there.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋‘๊ณ  ๋– ๋‚  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
100:09
So as we've seen today, fame is great. It brings lots of things people know who you are.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ช…์„ฑ์€ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์•„๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:15
You get recognised in the supermarket and you might if you are lucky, you might make lots of money as well.
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์Šˆํผ๋งˆ์ผ“์—์„œ ์ธ์ •๋„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ , ์šด์ด ์ข‹์œผ๋ฉด ๋ˆ๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฒŒ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:22
However, fame has its ups and its downs.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋ช…์„ฑ์—๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณต์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:28
It can be a good thing, maybe a bad thing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:31
Maybe we'll find out the one day.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:34
Mr. Duncan, what fame is like, I think, I think, and, well, I don't think I know I'm never going to be famous.
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ, ๋ช…์„ฑ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
100:44
I'm never, ever going to be famous for two reasons.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:47
One, I don't think I will, and two, I don't think I want to be because I've had a taste of that.
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์ฒซ์งธ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์—†๊ณ , ๋‘˜์งธ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ง›๋ดค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
100:56
So unless you become famous and then you have wealth so you can protect yourself
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด
101:03
from the outside world because there are some there are some crazy people out there,
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์™ธ๋ถ€ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํ•œ, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋ฏธ์นœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
101:09
you know, there are some, there are some slight wacko who's out there, you see in the world.
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, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ฏธ์นœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ธ๊ณ„.
101:15
And that is what I would be afraid of, to be honest.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
101:19
Interesting subject, though, I have to say.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ๊ผญ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
101:21
I think, I think that is a subject that you could talk about that subject every week and still and still come up with a different angle.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์ฃผ ๊ทธ ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฐ๋„๋กœ ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฃผ์ œ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
101:29
I should have asked, have we actually got anybody famous?
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๋ฌผ์–ด๋ดค์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
101:32
What do you know, actually tuning in to this channel. Unlikely.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด ์ฑ„๋„์„ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€ ์•Š์€.
101:36
But you never know if you are famous whatever your particular talent is please let us know.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์žฌ๋Šฅ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
101:44
Yes.
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์˜ˆ.
101:45
Although, although on the live chat anyone could say anything, I suppose
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๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
101:53
if you could say.
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์–ด๋–จ๊นŒ์š” ?
101:54
Oh, yes, I'm, I'm Leonardo DiCaprio and I'm just brushing up on my English,
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”, ์ €๋Š” ๋ ˆ์˜ค๋‚˜๋ฅด๋„ ๋””์นดํ”„๋ฆฌ์˜ค์ด๊ณ  ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ณต์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
102:00
but I'm busy at the moment making lots and lots of movies and dating girls that are way, way younger than they should be.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ฐ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์—ฌ์ž๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ฐ์ดํŠธํ•˜๋А๋ผ ๋ฐ”์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. BE.
102:10
That sort of thing.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ.
102:12
Anyway, talking of which, talking of people doing things to mislead you, Mr.
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ, ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์†์ด๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ค‘,
102:20
Steve, because we live in a world, would you say the world we live in, Steve, is fair or unfair?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์ด ๊ณต์ •ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ถˆ๊ณตํ‰ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
102:30
I think I think it's yes, I think it depends where you're born and the family you're born into.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํƒœ์–ด๋‚œ ๊ณณ๊ณผ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
102:38
I guess talent is not distributed evenly.
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์žฌ๋Šฅ์ด ๊ณ ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ถ„๋ฐฐ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
102:44
But if you want to think of if you want to achieve something in life, I think, I think
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ด๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด
102:50
then if you apply the right mental attitude, I think you can achieve anything you want to.
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์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ์ •์‹  ํƒœ๋„๋ฅผ ์ ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ์ด๋ฃฐ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
102:58
I do believe that. Okay. I mean,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€,
103:02
some people start off
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
103:03
in life with an advantage that others don't yet, so.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•„์ง ๊ฐ–์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ์ด์ ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:09
Enough. Steve. I was looking for a yes or no.
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์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ. ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜ˆ ๋˜๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ณ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:14
So is life.
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์ธ์ƒ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋‹ค.
103:15
Is life genuinely fair or is it unfair?
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์ธ์ƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ๊ณตํ‰ํ•œ ๊ฑธ๊นŒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ถˆ๊ณตํ‰ํ•œ ๊ฑธ๊นŒ?
103:17
Would you say?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€?
103:20
I think it's fair.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ณตํ‰ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค.
103:22
Yes. Fairly fair. I think life is one of those things that comes along.
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์˜ˆ. ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ณตํ‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ธ์ƒ์€ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
103:27
And sometimes nice things happen and sometimes bad things happen.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ด ์ƒ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:31
And the real secret of getting through life is just to keep going and not stop.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ง„์งœ ๋น„๊ฒฐ์€ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๊ณ„์† ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:37
But the reason why I mention that, Steve, is because there is something that kind of happen to people.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์—์š”.
103:45
Something unpleasant,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
103:48
unpleasant things that might happen to people.
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๋ถˆ์พŒํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•œ ์ผ๋“ค.
103:53
Because human beings, even though you are now watching two lovely human beings here on your screen, some people are not very nice.
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์ธ๊ฐ„์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ํ™”๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋‘ ๋ช…์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ธ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ณ„๋กœ ์นœ์ ˆํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:04
Some people can try to deceive you.
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์†์ด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:08
And today
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜
104:10
we are going to look at a subject that will finish today's live stream
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ ๊ณผ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์„
104:15
and maybe even our careers.
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๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•  ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
104:18
Here we go, Steve.
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๊ฐ„๋‹ค, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
104:19
It's on the screen right now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ํ™”๋ฉด์— ๋‚˜์™€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:23
The phrase you see on the screen at the moment says beware of the scammer.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ํ™”๋ฉด์— ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์„ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•˜๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:30
This is something that, that is, being talked about quite a lot at the moment in the news for various reasons.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ๋‰ด์Šค์—์„œ ๋งŽ์ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:38
The word scam is an interesting word, and this is one word that you will hear used
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ์–ด์ด๋ฉฐ ์†๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์‚ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
104:45
quite a lot when we are talking about people who are deceived, lived,
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์†์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ํ–‰๋™์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ
104:51
tricked or misled into doing something.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ฝค ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:57
So when you think of the word scam, Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ
105:00
Steve, how would you define that word?
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ, ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ •์˜ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
105:04
Yes. A a process or a business opportunity that is fake.
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์˜ˆ. ๊ฐ€์งœ์ธ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค๋‚˜ ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค ๊ธฐํšŒ.
105:12
Somebody is trying to get you to do something, usually to get your money.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๊ฐœ๋Š” ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:18
And, they are doing it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:20
They are trying to defraud you out of money.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ๋นผ์•—์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:24
That's the usual reason for a scam, is that says he wants to get some of your money. Yes.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ˆ์„ ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
105:30
And they are, they are using practices that, unsavoury, practices,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
105:39
or illegal practices in order to deprive you of that money.
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๊ทธ ๋ˆ์„ ๋นผ์•—๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ถˆ๋ฏธ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ด€ํ–‰์ด๋‚˜ ๋ถˆ๋ฒ•์ ์ธ ๊ด€ํ–‰์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:46
Have you got an actual definition from a dictionary?
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์‚ฌ์ „์—์„œ ์‹ค์ œ ์ •์˜๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
105:50
I have, I oh, I just wanted to see Mr.
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์ €๋Š”, ์•„, ์ €๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€
105:52
Steve and listen to Mr. Steve's version because that is it.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ์˜ ๋ฒ„์ „์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์˜€๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
105:56
You see, what is a scam?
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
105:59
A scam is something designed to mislead you into doing something that you would not normally do.
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ์œ ๋„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณ ์•ˆ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:07
So that is it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:10
And, a scam is something that a person will do.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•  ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:15
A person will try to mislead you, to get you to do something that you would not normally do.
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์†์—ฌ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ‰์†Œ์—๋Š” ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:26
And I suppose one of the, one of the main things that we think about when we think about people who might deceive you
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์† ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ‰์†Œ์— ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋˜ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š”
106:34
or get you to do things that you wouldn't normally do, often are related to two things money and love.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ฃผ์š” ์‚ฌํ•ญ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์ข…์ข… ๋ˆ๊ณผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
106:44
Believe it or not, they are the two things that people are often using to scam other people.
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. ๋ฏฟ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ง๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ž์ฃผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:55
By the way, the word scam can be used as a noun and also a verb.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ๋ช…์‚ฌ๋กœ๋„ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋™์‚ฌ๋กœ๋„ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:01
The thing, the trick, the misleading thing is a scam
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The thing, the Trick, the misleading thing์€ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ
107:07
and also as a verb, you scam someone.
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์ด๊ณ , ๋™์‚ฌ๋กœ๋„ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:12
So there are many types of scam can you think of?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์œ ํ˜•์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
107:17
One is Christine is mentioned one here a scam to steal your identity?
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ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” Christine์ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์–ธ๊ธ‰๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์‹ ์›์„ ๋„์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:24
Good, because the object, the objective behind that of course is to get hold of your money.
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์ข‹์•„์š”, ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ ๋ฐฐํ›„์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํžˆ ๋ˆ์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:30
Because if they steal your identity, they can use that information to log into bank accounts.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์‹ ์›์„ ํ›”์น˜๋ฉด ํ•ด๋‹น ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์€ํ–‰ ๊ณ„์ขŒ์— ๋กœ๊ทธ์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:39
May be savings or whatever.
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์ €์ถ•์ด๋“  ๋ญ๋“  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:43
The worst
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107:43
things is people use your identity then to borrow money from a bank.
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์ตœ์•…์˜
์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์‹ ์›์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ์€ํ–‰์—์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ๋นŒ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:49
That happened to me once by something.
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์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:52
So you might suddenly find on your bank statement that there is something that is being bought and you didn't even buy it.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์€ํ–‰ ๋ช…์„ธ์„œ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:02
Somebody else has stolen your credit card or your debit card number,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์‹ ์šฉ ์นด๋“œ๋‚˜ ์ง๋ถˆ ์นด๋“œ ๋ฒˆํ˜ธ ๋ฐ ์ด์— ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‹ ์›์„ ํ›”์ณค
108:09
and all of the identity connected to it, and they've been using that card to buy things.
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์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ ์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:14
And then suddenly, as Steve just said, it happened. It happened to you, didn't it?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์ฃ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
108:19
Yes, it happened to me. I wouldn't call it a scam. It was just sort of.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:22
Somebody stole my my, this was going back about 20 years.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ›”์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์•ฝ 20๋…„ ์ „์œผ๋กœ ๊ฑฐ์Šฌ๋Ÿฌ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:27
They stole my 25 years ago.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ 25๋…„ ์ „์— ๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ›”์ณค์–ด์š”.
108:30
They stole my from a hotel room. I was on a business trip.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ˜ธํ…” ๋ฐฉ์—์„œ ๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ›”์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ถœ์žฅ ์ค‘์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:34
Well, and, I had to get changed quickly in between one meeting and another the evening.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ €๋…์— ํ•œ ํšŒ์˜์™€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์˜ท์„ ๊ฐˆ์•„์ž…์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:42
And I just took my jacket off and left it in the room.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์žฌํ‚ท์„ ๋ฒ—์–ด ๋ฐฉ์— ๋‚จ๊ฒจ๋‘์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
108:46
Normally, I would always put my sort of bank cards and any documents in a safe.
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์€ํ–‰ ์นด๋“œ์™€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์„œ๋ฅ˜๋ฅผ ๊ธˆ๊ณ ์— ๋„ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:53
If there is a safe in the room.
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๋ฐฉ์— ๊ธˆ๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด.
108:56
But I didn't on this occasion because I was in a rush, and that one time I didn't,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ”๋น ์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ , ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ ,
109:01
and I didn't notice to the next day,
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๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚ ์—๋„ ๋ˆˆ์น˜์ฑ„์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:04
because they were very carefully somebody had in the hotel had had got
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์กฐ์‹ฌ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ํ˜ธํ…”์— ์žˆ๋˜ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:10
hold of the keys to the rooms and the the hotel security obviously wasn't very good.
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๊ฐ์‹ค ์—ด์‡ ๋ฅผ ์ž˜ ๋ณด๊ด€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ํ˜ธํ…” ๋ณด์•ˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:17
And, they managed to break into a number of rooms, including mine, steal
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด ๋ฐฉ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฐฉ์— ์นจ์ž…ํ•˜์—ฌ
109:23
a credit card, and also my driver's license, which I used to carry around with me.
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์‹ ์šฉ ์นด๋“œ์™€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋˜ ์šด์ „ ๋ฉดํ—ˆ์ฆ๋„ ํ›”์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:29
No, I don't anymore.
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:31
And, the next morning they.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ๋‚  ์•„์นจ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€.
109:34
I didn't notice to the after I came to pay the hotel that the car was missing.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ˜ธํ…”์— ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ์˜จ ํ›„์— ์ฐจ๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๋ˆˆ์น˜์ฑ„์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:38
And by that time they had, they had gone to a bank and, used my, driver's license
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์€ํ–‰์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
109:47
and my card as I'd to take out a loan of several thousand pounds.
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์ˆ˜์ฒœ ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ์˜ ๋Œ€์ถœ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋‚ด ์šด์ „๋ฉดํ—ˆ์ฆ๊ณผ ์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:56
I don't think you can do that anymore.
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๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
109:58
I think the bank's security is a lot better now.
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์ด์ œ ์€ํ–‰์˜ ๋ณด์•ˆ์ด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ข‹์•„์กŒ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:01
I got all the money back.
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๋ˆ์„ ๋‹ค ๋Œ๋ ค๋ฐ›์•˜์–ด์š”
110:02
The bank accepted it was their fault.
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์€ํ–‰์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์˜ ์ž˜๋ชป์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ธ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:05
Yeah, and I got all the money back, but. But, yes, that wasn't really a scam.
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์‘, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ๋„ ๋‹ค ๋Œ๋ ค๋ฐ›์•˜์ง€๋งŒ. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:09
Well, they they were scamming the bank. Yeah, well, they, they actually are scamming it.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์€ํ–‰์— ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
110:14
So for that you just see you're the conduit.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋„๊ด€์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:17
You're the, the means. Yeah. They were scamming the bank.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์€ํ–‰์— ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:21
Yeah.
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110:21
So, so in order to get money from out of the bank by using fake I.D., which happened to be my I.D..
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์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ๋‚ด ์‹ ๋ถ„์ฆ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฐ€์งœ ์‹ ๋ถ„์ฆ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•ด ์€ํ–‰์—์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ๋นผ๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด.
110:29
But bank fraud.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์€ํ–‰ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ.
110:31
Bank fraud is a common one.
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์€ํ–‰ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ”ํ•œ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:32
Because, as you say, you carry around so much personal information on your mobile phone.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:40
Smart phones nowadays are also quite vulnerable to that sort of thing as well.
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์š”์ฆ˜ ์Šค๋งˆํŠธํฐ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์— ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ทจ์•ฝํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:46
So when we talk about scams, Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ,
110:48
Steve, we often think of this word on the screen now deception.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ™”๋ฉด์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ์†์ž„์ˆ˜๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:54
Deception. I like that word. I don't like when it happens,
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๊ธฐ๋งŒ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ์‹ซ์ง€๋งŒ,
110:59
but deception is to trick
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์†์ž„์ˆ˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ง“๋œ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„
111:03
or mislead a person by putting up a false front.
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์†์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ˜ธ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
111:11
Deception.
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111:11
You are appearing to be something you are not, and deception is probably one of the most common forms of scam,
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๊ธฐ๋งŒ.
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ , ์†์ž„์ˆ˜๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ”ํ•œ ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
111:21
because quite often deception will be used against a person.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์†์ž„์ˆ˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž์ฃผ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
111:27
They will use their own emotions to get that person to do something they would not normally do.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐ์ •์„ ์ด์šฉํ•ด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ‰์†Œ์—๋Š” ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
111:36
So deception.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์†์ž„์ˆ˜.
111:38
You might appear to be someone you are not.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
111:41
You might appear to be a nice person, or a kind person or a lovely person, but all you are doing is trying to get that person
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ์นœ์ ˆํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
111:52
to to give you things, maybe to give you money or their possessions, or maybe you are trying to get into their will.
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์ฃผ๋„๋ก ์œ ๋„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์†Œ์œ ๋ฌผ์„ ์ฃผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋œป๋Œ€๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
112:01
Something like that.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ.
112:03
And deception is possibly one of the worst features of human behaviour.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์†์ž„์ˆ˜๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ธ๊ฐ„ ํ–‰๋™์˜ ์ตœ์•…์˜ ํŠน์ง• ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:10
I think. So here's a word the dress. Thank you. Dress.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋“œ๋ ˆ์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋“œ๋ ˆ์Šค.
112:15
They con con you? Yes.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์†์ธ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”? ์˜ˆ.
112:19
Is this a word you got coming up with? Shall we mention it?
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์ด๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋‚ธ ๋‹จ์–ด์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
112:22
You can't mention it because the word con, of course is is short for confidence.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  con์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์˜ ์•ฝ์ž์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:28
So you get a person's confidence, you con that person.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์‹ ๋ขฐ๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์†์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:34
You are using a person's confidence to, to to get things from them.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:39
A confidence trickster is another one that we sometimes use.
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์‹ ๋ขฐ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋” ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:44
Or con artist. Con artist? Yeah. Con man.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ. ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ? ์‘. ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ.
112:49
Yeah.
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์‘.
112:51
Somebody who who convinces you that they are legitimate.
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์ž์‹ ์ด ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ.
112:57
And, they've got your best interests at heart, and then they take you for money or something like that.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ตœ์„ ์˜ ์ด์ต์„ ์ตœ์šฐ์„ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:04
But, yeah, a con artist or a con person, but we would say con man is what we used to say.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ˆ, ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ ๋˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋˜ ๋Œ€๋กœ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:10
That's it. But yes, somebody who deceives you,
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์†์ด๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
113:15
brings you into their
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์‹ ๋ขฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ 
113:16
confidence, and then you trust them, and then they're just waiting for that moment that they can.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์‹ ๋ขฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:22
Maybe you they need some money or something like that.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๊ทธ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:26
I mean, a common one now is I get a lot on my mobile phone.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ด์ œ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ํœด๋Œ€์ „ํ™”๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ป๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:31
Well, we will not be talking about that anymore.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:33
Okay. We've got to move on because we are running out of time as well. Get rich quick.
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋ถ€์กฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ณ„์† ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜์„ธ์š”.
113:38
Mr. Steve, I have a great plan for you.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ, ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ข‹์€ ๊ณ„ํš์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
113:42
Oh, yes. I've got to tell you about it.
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด์š”.
113:44
This this now, this plan will mean that in a year from now, you will be financially secure.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ, ์ด ๊ณ„ํš์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 1๋…„ ํ›„์— ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ์žฌ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์•ˆ์ •๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž„์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:52
I guarantee you that you can earn up to $50,000 a month.
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ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— ์ตœ๋Œ€ 50,000๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฒŒ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์žฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:58
Oh, Mr. Duncan, yes, and I know you. So I trust you to. Do you want to know more?
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์•„, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ, ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‚˜์š”?
114:03
I absolutely, I you know, I'm sick of my job.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚ด ์ง์—…์ด ์ง€๊ฒจ์›Œ์š”.
114:06
Too often these these people play on your fears or your insecurities.
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์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ž์ฃผ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์ด๋‚˜ ๋ถˆ์•ˆ๊ฐ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:11
So yeah, I Mr.
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114:11
Duncan, I, you know, I want more money. I'm in debt.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ , ์ €๋Š”
๋˜์ปจ ์”จ, ์ €๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋นš์„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:15
I hate my job.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด ์ง์—…์ด ์‹ซ๋‹ค.
114:17
I want to be financially free and you've got an ideal proposition.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์žฌ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž์œ ๋กœ์›Œ์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์ƒ์ ์ธ ์ œ์•ˆ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:22
All of those things are true. But the way that. Yes, it's a great scheme.
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๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์œผ๋กœ. ์˜ˆ, ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๊ณ„ํš์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:27
Now, all you have to do is sign up and you have to give me.
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์ด์ œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์€ ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:30
Now there is there is a fee that you have to pay to join this thing.
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์ด์ œ ์ด ์ผ์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:35
Oh, right.
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์•„, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
114:36
But it's it's only ยฃ1,000, but it's only ยฃ1,000.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ณ ์ž‘ 1,000ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ์ธ๋ฐ, 1,000ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฐ–์— ์•ˆ ํ•ด์š”.
114:41
But I guarantee by the end of this year you will be earning $50,000 a month.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋ง๊นŒ์ง€ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— 50,000๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฒŒ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์žฅ๋‹ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:48
So what's ยฃ1,000 for a mr. Duncan? Well, that's that's a registering fee.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ Mr. 1์ธ๋‹น ยฃ1,000๋Š” ์–ผ๋งˆ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ๋˜์ปจ? ์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋“ฑ๋ก๋น„์˜ˆ์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ
114:53
I promise that will also allow me to send you some of the information about my, my lovely scheme that I have
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ •๋ง ๋ถ€์ž๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ์ค„ ๋‚˜์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ณ„ํš์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ณด ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์•ฝ์†ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
115:00
that will make you really, really rich.
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.
115:03
So as you can see from that, I am promising Mr. Steve something that
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๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ €๋Š” Steve ์”จ์—๊ฒŒ ์•„๋งˆ๋„
115:09
probably is not true or real.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹ค์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•ฝ์†ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:13
Get rich quick.
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๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜์„ธ์š”.
115:16
There is no such thing
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๋ณต๊ถŒ์— ๋‹น์ฒจ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜
115:19
as getting rich quick unless you win the lottery.
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์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
115:23
Well, well, yes, but then.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”.
115:26
But then even that, the odds of that are so small. So. Yeah.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ™•๋ฅ ์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ. ์‘.
115:31
I mean, you have no chance of winning the lottery, but if a person offers you something
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ณต๊ถŒ์— ๋‹น์ฒจ๋  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์€ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ
115:37
that seems too good to be true,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ธฐ์—” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ œ์•ˆํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
115:42
it is too good to be true.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:45
It is not real. It is fake.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ง„์งœ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ€์งœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:48
They are trying to get money from you.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ์–ป์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:51
Get rich quick. No one gets rich quickly.
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๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜์„ธ์š”. ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:55
Unless, of course, they are lucky enough to to pick the right numbers in the lottery, but otherwise it takes hard work.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ณต๊ถŒ์—์„œ ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ์ˆซ์ž๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•  ๋งŒํผ ์šด์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:03
Lots and lots of motivation, lots and lots of blood, sweat and tears as well.
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๋งŽ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ๋™๊ธฐ ๋ถ€์—ฌ, ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ํ”ผ, ๋•€, ๋ˆˆ๋ฌผ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:12
Yes, probably.
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116:12
We saw a programme the other night about, And in fact I got involved.
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๋„ค, ์•„๋งˆ๋„์š”.
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด์ ฏ๋ฐค์— ์–ด๋–ค ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ๋ณด์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋‚˜๋„ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
116:17
I won't say what it is. Don't worry, Mr. Duncan.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
116:19
Okay, let's just call it a multi-level marketing. Yeah. It's organisation.
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์ข‹์•„, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋‹ค๋‹จ๊ณ„ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ…์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด์ž. ์‘. ์กฐ์ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:25
It has.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:26
It has a very particular shape.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๋ชจ์–‘์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:29
If you've ever been to Egypt,
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์ด์ง‘ํŠธ์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
116:32
they have a lot of those things.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:34
Then, sometimes referred to as a, as a, a pyramid scheme. Oh, okay.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ํ”ผ๋ผ๋ฏธ๋“œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”.
116:40
I wasn't going to use the word again where you are recruited by somebody, usually somebody, you know,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์— ์˜ํ•ด ๋ชจ์ง‘๋˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์— ๋‹ค์‹œ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณดํ†ต ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋Š”
116:48
who says they've got this wonderful business opportunity and, it could be makeup.
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์ž์‹ ์ด ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‚ฌ์—… ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฉ”์ดํฌ์—…์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:54
It could be all sorts of different things. It could be health drinks.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜จ๊ฐ– ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์Œ๋ฃŒ๋ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:58
Yes, I mean, seminars, and, the sort of the way it works is that, is that you you are supposed to
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์˜ˆ, ์ œ ๋ง์€, ์„ธ๋ฏธ๋‚˜, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
117:10
sell some of this product to your friends.
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์ด ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํŒ”๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:13
And then you will also recruit some other friends to do some selling, and then they recruit other people,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ํŒ๋งค๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๋„ ๋ชจ์ง‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ชจ์ง‘ํ•˜๊ณ 
117:21
and then they show you this model whereby suddenly you'll be massively rich in about a year's time.
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์ด ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์•ฝ 1๋…„ ์•ˆ์— ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:28
Yeah.
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์‘.
117:29
So that's it's based on the fact that you're recruiting all these other people to sell products for you.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ํŒ๋งคํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ชจ์ง‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์— ๊ธฐ์ดˆํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:34
Can I just stop you there, Steve? Recess. Because we've got to make sure we're clear on this.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ฉˆ์ถฐ๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ? ํœด๊ฒŒ. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ์ ์„ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:38
That sort of selling is not a scam.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํŒ๋งค๋Š” ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:42
So a scam is so technically I know, I know where you're coming from, but technically, is
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋Š”
117:50
is not a legal or a scam because most of these companies still exist and they haven't been closed down.
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ํ•ฉ๋ฒ•์ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ค‘ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๊ณ  ํ์‡„๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:56
But I know it means Steve, it is very easy to get sucked in to these things,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด Steve๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์— ๋น ์ ธ๋“ค๊ธฐ ๋งค์šฐ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:03
especially when the the the promise of fortune is just
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ํŠนํžˆ ํ–‰์šด์˜ ์•ฝ์†์ด
118:11
out of reach and all you have to do is give some money,
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์†์— ๋‹ฟ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„
118:15
give some of your time, and choose lots and lots of other people to help your business grow.
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์˜ ๋ˆ๊ณผ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ , ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์„ ํƒํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
118:21
Unfortunately, reality is not quite
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๋ถˆํ–‰ํžˆ๋„ ํ˜„์‹ค์€ ์™„์ „ํžˆ
118:26
the same.
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๊ฐ™์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:27
Yes, usually you you've got this something and they sort of fish now fishing.
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์˜ˆ, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‚š์‹œ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:35
Somebody put that under earlier, which is quite common on the internet, on emails, fishing at its peak age.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋” ์ผ์ฐ ์•„๋ž˜์— ๋„ฃ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท, ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ, ๋‚š์‹œ๊ฐ€ ์ ˆ์ •์— ๋‹ฌํ•  ๋•Œ ํ”ํžˆ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:44
I qiang I think it's spelt different to the, the sort of fishing for actual fish in the sea. Yes.
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๋ฐ”๋‹ค์—์„œ ์‹ค์ œ ๋ฌผ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์žก๋Š” ๋‚š์‹œ์™€๋Š” ์ฒ ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์˜ˆ.
118:54
I've put the word on the screen.
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ํ™”๋ฉด์— ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ์–ด๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:57
That's it. Somebody mentioned that earlier. So thanks for that.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ. ์•ž์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”.
118:59
Is, is where is where somebody is, is trying to get your identity usually or
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์‹ ์›์„ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
119:07
get you to log in to, click on, on a link somewhere, to get your identity.
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๋กœ๊ทธ์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์—ฌ ์‹ ์›์„ ์–ป์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:15
And they usually use sort of urgency or fear as a means of doing it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ณดํ†ต ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์œผ๋กœ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ธด๊ธ‰ํ•จ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:20
For example, I get quite a lot on my phone where they say to me, oh, your delivery by Royal Mail has been delayed.
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์ „ํ™”๋กœ '์•„, Royal Mail๋กœ ๋ฐฐ์†ก์ด ์ง€์—ฐ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค'๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:29
Royal mail is, is our main postal service here.
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Royal Mail์€ ์ด๊ณณ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์šฐํŽธ ์„œ๋น„์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:33
And it's a text that says your your your parcel has been delayed.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋‹˜์˜ ํƒ๋ฐฐ๊ฐ€ ์ง€์—ฐ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:39
Please.
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์ œ๋ฐœ.
119:40
So please click here to get it re delivered or something like that.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์—ฌ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌ๋ฐ›๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์œผ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
119:45
And of course it's a con. Yeah.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
119:47
Because well the other, the other of course is, is just somebody promising you something normally large sums of money.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํฐ ์•ก์ˆ˜์˜ ๋ˆ์„ ์•ฝ์†ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:57
Now I, I have my email address and Steve, I can tell you I get around 500
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์ด์ œ ์ œ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ ์ฃผ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฒผ๊ณ  Steve๋Š” ์ œ ๊ณ„์ •์— ๋งค๋‹ฌ ์•ฝ 500ํ†ต์˜
120:06
fake spam junk
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๊ฐ€์งœ ์ŠคํŒธ ์ •ํฌ
120:09
emails every month in my account, and many of them are lonely widows who have $20 million that they want to give to me.
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์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ƒ๋‹น์ˆ˜๋Š” ์ €์—๊ฒŒ 2์ฒœ๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ์™ธ๋กœ์šด ๊ณผ๋ถ€๋“ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
120:19
For some reason, they've chosen me out of all the people on the planet.
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์–ด๋–ค ์ด์œ ์—์„œ์ธ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ง€๊ตฌ์ƒ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์ค‘์—์„œ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:24
They've decided to to send me all of their lovely, vast, massive fortune.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ๋ง‰๋Œ€ํ•œ ์žฌ์‚ฐ์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:29
And all I have to do is send the cover charge for the transfer.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์€ ์ด์ฒด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์š”๊ธˆ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:36
So I have to send them some money first so they can send me their millions and millions of dollars to my bank account.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋จผ์ € ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด ์€ํ–‰ ๊ณ„์ขŒ๋กœ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:43
But the but the sum of money I have to send is normally quite small.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ˆ์˜ ์•ก์ˆ˜๋Š” ๋ณดํ†ต ๊ฝค ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:47
Maybe ยฃ1000 or ยฃ2000.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ยฃ1000 ๋˜๋Š” ยฃ2000์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:52
Which which is small.
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์–ด๋А ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ž‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
120:53
When you compare it to the millions I'm going to receive, the only problem is it's a scam.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋  ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์™€ ๋น„๊ตํ•ด ๋ณด๋ฉด ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:00
It isn't. It's a scam.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:02
It used to be Nigel Aryan princes and Nigerian millionaires who were transferring their money from their funds
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์˜ˆ์ „์—๋Š” ๋‚˜์ด์ ค ์•„๋ฆฌ์•ˆ ์™•์ž๋“ค๊ณผ ๋‚˜์ด์ง€๋ฆฌ์•„ ๋ฐฑ๋งŒ์žฅ์ž๋“ค์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ž๊ธˆ์—์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ์ด์ฒดํ•˜๊ณ 
121:12
and they wanted to to give it to well, I had lots of offers many years ago.
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๊ทธ ๋ˆ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „์— ๋งŽ์€ ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:17
Lots of Nigerian princes and businessmen were all trying to send me millions and millions of dollars.
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๋งŽ์€ ๋‚˜์ด์ง€๋ฆฌ์•„ ์™•์ž๋“ค๊ณผ ์‚ฌ์—…๊ฐ€๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋งŒ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:26
Unfortunately,
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๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„
121:29
I never took
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๋‚˜๋Š”
121:30
up the offer because they were all, unfortunately, scams.
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๊ทธ ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ œ์•ˆ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์˜€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:36
And here's another word from Valentin a Ponzi scheme.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ฐœ๋ Œํ‹ด์˜ ํฐ์ง€ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์˜ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ง์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:39
Oh, that's a good one.
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์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ข‹์€๋ฐ์š”.
121:40
That's a good one.
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์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:41
Again, it's a it's a kind of scam involving, sort of investments.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํˆฌ์ž์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:47
I think that's more sort of involved with investment,
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํˆฌ์ž์™€ ๋” ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:49
where you give your money to somebody who promises to sort of double it or something by investing it.
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๋ˆ์„ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜์—ฌ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋กœ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์•ฝ์†ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:57
Yeah.
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์‘.
121:58
In these, wonderful, companies that they, they, they, they alone know are going to be successful.
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๊ทธ๋“ค๋งŒ์ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋“ค์€ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:08
That's it.
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122:08
And you give them your money and they will promise, you know, in two years to double it by investing it somewhere on the stock market.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ 2๋…„ ์•ˆ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฃผ์‹ ์‹œ์žฅ ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์— ํˆฌ์žํ•˜์—ฌ ๋‘ ๋ฐฐ๋กœ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์•ฝ์†ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:16
But in reality, they just take your money, and they don't invest it at all, probably.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ˆ๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์ „ํ˜€ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:22
And they.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€.
122:24
Yeah.
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122:24
So that's that's what a Ponzi scheme is.
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์‘.
์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ํฐ์ง€ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:27
It's more sort of to do with financial, aspects.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์žฌ์ •์  ์ธก๋ฉด๊ณผ ๋” ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:32
And of course, that area, that area is incredibly risky.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ ์ง€์—ญ, ๊ทธ ์ง€์—ญ์€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:36
So this is the reason why nowadays, if you are going to trust someone to invest your money,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ๋ˆ์„ ํˆฌ์žํ•  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์‹ ๋ขฐํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด
122:43
you've got to make sure you can see that person.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:45
If you can be local to that person, you know them personally and you're not just doing it through the internet.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์œ„์น˜์— ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์„ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:52
That is the problem nowadays.
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์š”์ฆ˜์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ฃ .
122:54
We've we have become so, so used to using the internet for everything.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์— ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:00
We forget that the person at the other end might not be the person they say they are.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์ด ์ž์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:06
They could be someone who is trying to trick you into giving them your money.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์†์—ฌ ๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:13
And it does happen quite often.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:15
The rule of thumb is, isn't it?
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๊ฒฝํ—˜์ƒ ๋ฒ•์น™์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
123:17
If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. As I said earlier,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ž์„œ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด,
123:24
and anything that it's offered to you, if it seems great, like if I said to Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์•„ ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ œ๊ฐ€
123:30
Steve, I had an amazing business idea and all he had to do was invest ยฃ10,000, I think.
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Steve ์”จ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์‚ฌ์—… ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์€ ยฃ10,000๋ฅผ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:38
I think Steve would definitely say, I don't think so.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค.
123:42
I think you are trying to scam me.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
123:46
And of course the final one, Mr. Steve, is love.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:50
Oh love.
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์•„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด.
123:52
I think this is the worst of all the types of scam.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ ์ค‘ ์ตœ์•…์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:58
When you use a person's emotions, maybe they are a lonely person, divorced or even widowed.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๊ฐ์ •์„ ์ด์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์™ธ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ดํ˜ผํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์‚ฌ๋ณ„ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:06
Maybe their husband or wife has died and they've been left some money.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋‚จํŽธ์ด๋‚˜ ์•„๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ์—ˆ๊ณ  ๋ˆ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‚จ์•˜์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:10
A person who is targeted,
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ํ‘œ์ ์ด ๋œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ,
124:13
and the way they use that person's emotions to get everything from them.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๊ฐ์ •์„ ์ด์šฉํ•ด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ป๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹.
124:21
I think that is the worst type of scam.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ ์œ ํ˜•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:24
And the other one, of course, is that a lot of these scammers, prey on the elderly.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ ์ค‘ ๋‹ค์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ๋…ธ์ธ์„ ์žก์•„๋จน๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:30
They play up, they play on, or they try to take advantage of.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ณ„์† ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ดํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ด์ ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:34
I should put that put it that way.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋„ฃ์–ด์•ผ๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”.
124:36
Someone's vulnerabilities and, age is a kind of vulnerability.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ์ทจ์•ฝ์ ๊ณผ, ๋‚˜์ด๋„ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ทจ์•ฝ์ ์ด๋‹ค.
124:44
And maybe some people I mean my mother was, my mother got caught out by this, but I'm talking about huge sums of money.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‚ด ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ํœ˜๋ง๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์•ก์ˆ˜์˜ ๋ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:55
A person that comes into your life and, and you don't have I don't think you have to be old, though.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์— ์ฐพ์•„์˜ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ผญ ๋Š™์„ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:01
You might be lonely. You could be in your 40s and lonely, but you have lots of money.
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์™ธ๋กœ์šธ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 40๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด ์™ธ๋กœ์šธ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ˆ์€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:06
And then you start looking around, maybe on a dating site, and then you think you found the right person.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ์ดํŠธ ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ๋“ฑ์„ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ ๋”ฑ ๋งž๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:13
And they seem lovely. They seem so charming and witty.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ •๋ง ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์žฌ์น˜์žˆ์–ด ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:18
They seem like that could be the one that could be the person you want to spend the rest of your life with.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚จ์€ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:24
All they need.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ.
125:28
All you need is is some money
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ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ˆ๋ฟ์ด๋ฉฐ
125:32
and they will slowly, over time, introduce these things into the relationship.
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋„์ž…ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:38
Whatever it is, money will slowly become
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ , ๋ˆ์€ ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ
125:43
a big feature of the relationship and they are using your emotional weakness which is looking for someone looking for love.
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๊ด€๊ณ„์˜ ํฐ ํŠน์ง•์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐ์ •์  ์•ฝ์ ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:52
You want someone to be near, to trust, to have and to hold.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์‹ ๋ขฐํ•˜๊ณ , ์†Œ์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ถ™์žก๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:58
Yes. But certainly as well as that, it's anything that your
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์˜ˆ. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜
126:04
whatever, your vulnerability is, there will be somebody out there will try to exploit it, for their own benefit.
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์ทจ์•ฝ์ ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ๊ฐ„์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ด์ต์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด๋ฅผ ์•…์šฉํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:14
And so, quite often my mother used to get lots of phone calls,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š”
126:20
because she was elderly, living on her own, particularly during the pandemic period.
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๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์œผ์…จ๊ณ  ํ˜ผ์ž ์‚ฌ์…จ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํŠนํžˆ ํŒฌ๋ฐ๋ฏน ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ›์œผ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:28
She felt very lonely.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์™ธ๋กœ์›€์„ ๋А๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:29
And many elderly people get these just these phone calls.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ๋…ธ์ธ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:34
And my mother just wanted to talk to somebody, and she would get into conversations with whoever was on there.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๊ณณ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์™€๋„ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณค ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:40
We used to warn, you know, don't if you don't know them, don't have anything to do it.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋ฉด ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:44
But one of them managed to get through and conned my mother into signing up for something.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ๊ฐ„์‹ ํžˆ ํ†ต๊ณผํ•˜์—ฌ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋ฅผ ์†์—ฌ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋“ฑ๋กํ•˜๋„๋ก ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:51
I think it was insurance that she didn't need.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ณดํ—˜์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
126:54
Wasn't a huge sum of money, but I remember looking through her bank.
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ํฐ ๊ธˆ์•ก์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ์€ํ–‰์„ ๋’ค์ ธ๋ณธ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:57
I used to go through my mum's bank statements to to help her, you know, every month.
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์ €๋Š” ๋งค๋‹ฌ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋ฅผ ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ์˜ ์€ํ–‰ ๋ช…์„ธ์„œ๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:02
She used to like me to do that.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
127:03
And I noticed one month there was this new payment, ยฃ120 a month or something.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ์— ยฃ120 ์ •๋„์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ง€๋ถˆ๊ธˆ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:08
And I said, what's this, mum? She said, I don't know. Anyway, we looked into it. It turned out
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”, ์—„๋งˆ, ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ญ์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” "๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค"๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ์‚ฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ๋ณด๋‹ˆ
127:14
this company, we found the bank and it was a scam.
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์€ํ–‰์„ ์ฐพ์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:20
They were phoning people up and getting them to.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์–ด ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:22
They would prey on the elderly people, who were very trusting, maybe and maybe bit lonely and con them into signing up
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ ๋ขฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์™ธ๋กœ์šธ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋…ธ์ธ๋“ค์„ ๋จน์ด๋กœ ์‚ผ์•„
127:34
to, you know, some kind of fake insurance policy, but it's it's everywhere.
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ฐ€์งœ ๋ณดํ—˜์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•˜๋„๋ก ์†์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋””์—๋‚˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:40
There's always somebody out there trying to scam you, will con you into some.
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์†์ด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:46
And and this is one of the most worrying ones is the one
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฑฑ์ •์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€
127:51
that involved your, your need for another human being to be with you in your life.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์‚ถ์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์š•๊ตฌ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:57
I think that of all of all the cons of all the the tricks that a human being can play on another using a person's emotions
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์ธ๊ฐ„์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๊ฐ์ •์ด๋‚˜ ์•ฝ์ ์„ ์ด์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์†์ž„์ˆ˜์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹จ์  ์ค‘์—์„œ
128:08
or their weakness, a moment of weakness where they might be lonely or they feel vulnerable.
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, ์™ธ๋กœ์›€์„ ๋А๋ผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ทจ์•ฝํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋А๋‚„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์•ฝ์ ์˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
128:15
And that is the moment when people like that will try to get
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„
128:22
what they can from someone else.
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์–ป์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
128:24
I think it is they are the worst of the worst.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ตœ์•… ์ค‘์˜ ์ตœ์•…์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
128:28
They should be thrown into prison for ever and ever.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์˜์›ํžˆ ๊ฐ์˜ฅ์— ๋˜์ ธ์ ธ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
128:30
But quite often they can take the money, Steve, and then vanish.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋นผ์•—๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
128:35
And that's the blue. That's the worst part.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํŒŒ๋ž€์ƒ‰์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋‚˜์œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์—์š”.
128:40
Absolutely disgusting.
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์ •๋ง ์—ญ๊ฒจ์›Œ์š”.
128:42
Anyway, we hope, we hope none of you have been scammed, or conned,
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์ค‘์— ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹นํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹นํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์—†๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
128:48
I mean, work, we get a lot of training at work to look out for phishing emails.
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์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ”ผ์‹ฑ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ต์œก์„ ๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
128:54
They're always putting us on training courses so that we can recognise those.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•ญ์ƒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ํ›ˆ๋ จ ๊ณผ์ •์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
129:00
And there are certain things that you can.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
129:02
I mean, they get cleverer and cleverer at disguising, where they're from.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋””์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ์œ„์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ ์  ๋” ์˜๋ฆฌํ•ด์ง„๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
129:09
But, yeah, they just want you to click on a link which then identifies you and and they can then,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ท€ํ•˜๋ฅผ ์‹๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•  ๋ฟ์ด๋ฉฐ ๊ท€ํ•˜
129:19
get your computer filled with malware.
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์˜ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์•…์„ฑ ์ฝ”๋“œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฑ„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
129:22
Or get into the company's systems or your own system.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
129:27
It's because of the, the common one we used to get was someone would phone and say they were from Microsoft,
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๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์–ด Microsoft์—์„œ ์™”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
129:34
and they've noticed your computer has a problem, and so they will
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
129:40
they will talk you into giving them access to your computer so they can remotely use the computer.
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์— ์•ก์„ธ์Šคํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•ด๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ์š”์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์›๊ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
129:51
Now that that one is not so popular anymore, because most people are aware that Microsoft will never, ever phone
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์ด์ œ ๊ทธ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ Microsoft๊ฐ€ ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๊ท€ํ•˜
130:00
you at your house, there is no way that someone at Microsoft is is looking at everyone's computers to make sure they're working.
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์˜ ์ง‘์— ์ „ํ™”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— Microsoft์˜ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‚ดํŽด๋ณผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
130:09
Okay, so that doesn't exist.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ตฐ์š”, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑด ์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๊ตฐ์š”.
130:11
That is 100% a scam is another word, a charlatan.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ 100% ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ง๋กœ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
130:18
Oh very. Bots put that on.
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์•„ ์ •๋ง. ๋ด‡์ด ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์ž…์–ด์š”.
130:21
Thanks for that.
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๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”.
130:22
Yes, a charlatan, a person. Hoffman, a person who pretends to be something they are not.
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์˜ˆ, ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ. ์ž์‹ ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์ฒ™ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ํ˜ธํ”„๋งŒ.
130:29
Yes, a con person.
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์‘, ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ์ด์•ผ.
130:31
Nuh And you know, they might be trying to get something from you.
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Nuh ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์–ป์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
130:36
Con artist. Charlatan.
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์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ. ํ—ˆํ’์„ ์ด.
130:38
I think you can use those words interchangeably.
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์ด ๋‹จ์–ด๋“ค์„ ์„œ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด๋„ ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
130:40
There are other words I want to use, but I can't use them here on YouTube, unfortunately.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์•ˆํƒ€๊น๊ฒŒ๋„ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ YouTube์—์„œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
130:45
It's a shame. Well, I think look, have you noticed what time it is, Steve?
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๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ์ด๋‹ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ง€๊ธˆ์ด ๋ช‡ ์‹œ์ธ์ง€ ๋ˆˆ์น˜์ฑ„์…จ๋‚˜์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ?
130:50
I have, and I knew it was getting late because I was feeling hungry and, in need of a cup of tea.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐฐ๊ณ ํ”„๊ณ  ์ฐจ ํ•œ ์ž”์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋Šฆ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
130:57
Yes. Me too.
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์˜ˆ. ์ €๋„์š”.
130:59
I have to say, I forgot to bring my water with me into the studio, so I didn't have it actually here with me.
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์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค์— ๋ฌผ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ ค์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ฌผ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
131:05
So I took a big risk today just in case my throat became dry, I think.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ํ˜น์‹œ๋‚˜ ๋ชฉ์ด ๋งˆ๋ฅผ๊นŒ๋ด ํฐ ์œ„ํ—˜์„ ๊ฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
131:11
I think the reason is I'm wearing my scarf, you see?
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๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์Šค์นดํ”„๋ฅผ ์ฐฉ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
131:15
So my throat has stayed nice and warm.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ชฉ์ด ๋”ฐ๋œปํ•˜๊ณ  ๋”ฐ๋œปํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
131:19
But it's been great to be here, Mr. Duncan.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•˜์–ด์š”, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
131:21
Yes. I can put down my notebook and go into the kitchen and make you a cup of tea and some of my, hot crust.
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์˜ˆ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ณต์ฑ…์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋†“๊ณ  ๋ถ€์—Œ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ฐจ ํ•œ ์ž”๊ณผ ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์šด ๋นต ๊ป์งˆ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
131:29
Not hot, crisp and bread. Some of my tea cake. Bread.
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๋œจ๊ฒ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋ฐ”์‚ญํ•˜๊ณ  ๋นต. ๋‚ด ์ฐจ ์ผ€์ดํฌ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€. ๋นต.
131:32
Oh, sultanas and butter. I'm going to put pure butter on today for you.
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์•„, ์ˆ ํƒ€๋‚˜์™€ ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ. ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ ๋ฒ„ํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
131:36
I know you're trying to lower your cholesterol. Well, as the doctor said, the doctor did say
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ฝœ๋ ˆ์Šคํ…Œ๋กค์„ ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„, ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์˜์‚ฌ๋Š”
131:43
you can still have a treat
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ
131:46
now and again, so you don't have to completely cut out all of the stuff you enjoy eating.
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์ฆ๊ฒจ ๋จน๋Š” ์Œ์‹์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ค‘๋‹จํ•  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
131:52
Sometimes you can give yourself a little treat, which is what we will be doing at the moment.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ž‘์€ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
131:57
I don't feel as though I've paid that much attention to the live chat today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์— ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
132:00
We've been so busy talking about other subjects
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์ œ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ”๋น ์„œ
132:03
I haven't really had time to to mention, all the lovely people that have been on there today.
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์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ฐธ์„ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์š”.
132:10
But maybe next time. So I look forward to seeing you all again.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹ค์Œ๋ฒˆ์—๋Š”์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
132:15
Next Sunday, Mr.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ผ์š”์ผ์— Mr.
132:17
Duncan will be posting new lessons, and he'll be doing his live stream again on Wednesday.
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Duncan์€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฐ•์˜๋ฅผ ๊ฒŒ์‹œํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ˆ˜์š”์ผ์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ์„ ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
132:22
So tune into that and I'll see you all, a week from now.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ง€๊ธˆ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ํ›„์— ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
132:26
Thank you, Mr. Steve. There he goes. Give us a lovely smile and a wave.
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๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ. ์ €๊ธฐ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฐ„๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ฏธ์†Œ์™€ ์†์„ ํ”๋“ค์–ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
132:34
There he goes.
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์ €๊ธฐ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฐ„๋‹ค.
132:35
That was Mr. Steve.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
132:37
So now you know who Mr. Steve is. And he will be back with us next Sunday.
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์ด์ œ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ฃ ? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋Œ์•„์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
132:42
Of course, we will have lots of other things to talk about next Sunday as well.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋‹ค์Œ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ์—๋„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๋‚œ 2์‹œ๊ฐ„,
132:47
I hope you've enjoyed the last two hours,
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2์‹œ๊ฐ„ 30๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„
132:51
two hours and 30 minutes we've been with you.
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์ด ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์› ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
132:54
I hope you've enjoyed the show.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‡ผ๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊ฒผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
132:57
I will be back with you on Wednesday.
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์ˆ˜์š”์ผ์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ์˜ค๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
132:59
Wednesday lines and look out for some new lessons as well.
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์ˆ˜์š”์ผ์—๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ˆ˜์—…๋„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
133:04
During the week I will be posting new English lessons as well.
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์ด๋ฒˆ์ฃผ์—๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์˜์–ด๊ฐ•์˜๋„ ์˜ฌ๋ฆด ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
133:11
Thank you for your company. See you later.
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋ด์š”.
133:14
You can watch this live stream again with lovely captions in your own language.
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์ด ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ์„ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์บก์…˜๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
133:20
Later on, and I will see you on Wednesday live from 2 p.m.
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๋‚˜์ค‘์—
133:26
UK time. And of course,
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์˜๊ตญ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์š”์ผ ์˜คํ›„ 2์‹œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ๋กœ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก 
133:29
until then, you know what's coming next.
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๊ทธ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ์— ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ ์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
133:32
You do
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๋ชธ ์กฐ์‹ฌ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ณ 
133:34
take care of yourselves, enjoy the rest of your day.
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, ๋‚จ์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋„ ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋‚ด์„ธ์š”.
133:38
Take care of yourself and each other.
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์ž์‹ ๊ณผ ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
133:41
A big hello to you wherever you are and of course...
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ta ta for now.
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133:54
See you on Wednesday.
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