The Fairy Tales of the Fossil Fuel Industry — and a Better Climate Story | Luisa Neubauer | TED
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翻译人员: A. D.
校对人员: Yip Yan Yeung
00:08
My name is Luisa Neubauer.
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我叫路易莎·诺伊鲍尔
(Luisa Neubauer)。
00:11
I grew up in one of the most
privileged parts of the world,
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我在世界上条件最优越的地区之一——
德国汉堡——长大。
00:15
in Hamburg in Germany.
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Growing up, I believed that just
as my parents would take care of me,
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在成长过程中,我相信,
正如我的父母会照顾我一样,
00:23
governments would take care
of the big problems in the world.
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政府会处理好这世界上的大问题。
00:28
I grew up in a world that told me
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在我长大的世界里,
所有声音都告诉我
00:31
that things would just get
better and better
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事情会变得越来越好,
并且对每个人都是如此。
00:35
for everyone.
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00:37
I grew up in a fairy tale.
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我在一个童话故事中长大。
00:40
Part of this fairy tale
is the story of Germany.
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这个童话的一部分是德国的故事。
00:44
Or, to be more precise, the role
of fossil fuels in Germany.
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或者,更准确地说,
是化石燃料在德国扮演的角色。
00:48
The most obvious impact of fossil fuels
in Germany are soaring emissions.
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化石燃料在德国最明显的
影响是飙升的排放量。
00:53
Germany is the country fourth most
responsible for the climate crisis.
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德国是对气候危机
责任第四大的国家。
00:58
Growing up, however, I didn't know that.
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然而,在我成长的过程中,
我并不知道这些。
01:01
What I knew was this.
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我所知道的是这样的:
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Without fossil fuels,
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没有化石燃料,
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there could never be economic growth.
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就不可能有经济增长。
01:09
Without economic growth,
there couldn't be jobs,
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没有经济增长,
就不可能有工作,
01:12
there couldn't be wealth,
there couldn't be peace.
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就不可能有财富,
就不可能有和平。
01:15
So Germany burnt coal, oil and gas
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因此,德国燃烧煤炭、
石油和天然气,
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no matter where it was coming from.
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不管它来自哪里。
01:21
This fairy tale isn't unique to Germany.
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这个童话并不是德国独有的,
01:23
There are versions of it everywhere.
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到处都有它的其它版本。
01:26
It took me years to figure out
what was behind this fairy tale.
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我花了很多年才弄清楚
这个童话背后的东西。
01:31
And once I did,
I became a climate activist.
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而我一弄清楚,我就
成为了一名气候活动家,
01:34
And together with thousands of others,
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并与成千上万的人一起,
01:36
we organized the largest
climate protests ever seen.
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组织了有史以来最大的
气候抗议活动。
01:41
People then very quickly
started calling us naive
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然后人们很快就开始说我们幼稚,
01:45
and most found we were so radical.
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而且大多数人觉得我们太激进了。
01:49
Yet the only thing we really did
is we broke off the fairy tales
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然而,我们唯一真正做的
一件事就是我们打破了童话,
01:54
and instead we told the truth.
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并说出了事实。
01:58
And because there are
fairy tales everywhere,
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由于到处都是童话,
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telling the truth in the climate crisis
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说出气候危机的真相
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means deconstructing
almost every aspect of it.
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意味着要分解它的几乎每个方面。
02:07
People, for instance,
call the climate crisis man-made
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比如,人们说气候危机是人为的。
02:10
and while there were, indeed,
humans behind it,
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虽然这背后确实有人类的原因存在,
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it's much less man-made
and much more fossil-fuel-made.
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但它不完全是人为的,
而更多的是化石燃料造成的。
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It's made possible by the exploitation
of coal, oil and gas
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它是由煤炭、石油和天然气的开采
02:22
and the profit-driven
economic systems behind it.
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以及其背后利益驱动的
经济体系所造成的。
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Calling the climate crisis man-made
implies it's an accident of human nature,
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称气候危机为人为的,
意味着它是人类本性的一个事故。
02:30
whereas it's actually
a relatively small group of people
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而实际上,它源自于
相对较小的一群人,
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in just a few places around the world,
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只在世界范围内的几个地方。
02:37
the fossil fuel industries,
their marketing
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化石燃料行业、他们的营销
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and their political supporters.
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以及他们的政治支持者。
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The fossil fuel industry itself
is also a powerhouse of fairy tales.
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化石燃料行业本身也是
一个童话故事的发电厂。
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Fifty years ago,
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五十年前,
02:48
they knew that their business
would lead us into a climate disaster.
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他们知道,他们的生意会把
我们带入一场气候灾难。
02:54
Back then in the '70s
and the '80s and the '90s,
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在 70、80 和 90 年代,
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they had the chance to use that knowledge
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他们曾有机会利用那些知识来
推行向可再生能源的过渡。
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to introduce a transition
to renewable energies.
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03:05
They decided not to.
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但他们决定不这样做。
03:07
And instead, they started
telling fairy tales.
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相反,他们开始讲童话故事。
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They started campaigns to mislead people.
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他们开始做误导人们的
商业宣传活动。
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They denied their own climate science
that they did themselves.
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他们否认了他们自己
研究出来的气候科学。
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And by that, they stole our very first
historic chance to act from us.
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因此,他们偷走了我们第一个
采取行动的历史性机会。
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So now, for many lives,
it's already too late.
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所以现在,对许多人来说,
已经太晚了。
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The droughts, the fires and floods
are all happening already in 2022.
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干旱、火灾和洪水都已经
在 2022 年发生了。
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No place is safe anymore.
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再也没有地方是安全的了。
03:42
So as the catastrophes
can no longer be denied,
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所以,当灾难无法再被否认时,
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fossil fuel industries have again
started telling new fairy tales,
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化石燃料行业又开始
讲新的童话故事。
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and this time they present themselves
as part of the solution.
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而这一次,他们将自己
打造为解决方案的一部分。
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They call it transition.
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他们称之为过渡。
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They promise innovations.
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他们承诺创新。
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They speak of green growth.
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他们讨论绿色增长。
04:00
And it sounds wonderful.
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这听起来很美妙。
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It is powerful too.
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它听上去也很强大。
04:04
People really want to believe
that this time,
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人们真的很想相信这一次,
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the Equinors, the Totals, the Shells
and all the others,
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挪威石油、道达尔、壳牌
以及其他所有人,
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this time, they will not steal another
chance to act from us, right?
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这一次,他们不会再从我们
这里偷走行动的机会,对吗?
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I would like to believe that too.
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我也想去相信这一点。
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But I cannot, for two very simple truths.
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但我不能,因为两个
非常简单的事实。
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Number one,
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第一,
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we do not have time for any more delay.
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我们没有拖延的时间了。
04:31
So whoever tells us that they
will just need some more time
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因此,告诉我们他们只
需要多些时间的人,
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does not understand the very basic logic
of the crisis we are in.
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压根不了解我们所处的
危机的基本逻辑。
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Back in Hamburg when I was in school,
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当我还在汉堡上学的时候,
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we would get 90 minutes
to finish a math exam.
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我们会有 90 分钟完成
一场数学考试。
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The fossil fuel industry is, in a way,
taking that very exam right now.
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在某种程度上,化石燃料行业现在
正在进行一场这样的考试。
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But instead of 90 minutes,
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但他们告诉我们他们要 9 年,
而非 90 分钟,去完成它。
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they tell us they will finish
in nine years.
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Back in school, that attitude would have
got me failing my assignments.
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在学校里,这种态度会让
我的作业不及格。
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And the second truth is,
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第二个事实是,
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and that's the simple equation
behind the climate crisis,
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而这就是气候危机背后的
一个简单等式,
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to limit global heating to 1.5 degrees,
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要想将全球升温限制
在 1.5 度以内,
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or as close as we can
possibly get to that,
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或尽可能地接近这一目标,
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there cannot to be any new
fossil fuel explotation.
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就不能有任何新的化石燃料开采,
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No single new project can be constructed.
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也不能有任何新的项目被建造。
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Yet, as we speak, fossil fuel
industries are planning
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然而,就在当下,
化石燃料行业正在筹划着
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let alone 195 new mega-projects,
so-called climate bombs,
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195 个新的大型项目,
也叫气候炸弹。
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each of them emitting more
than one gigaton of CO2.
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它们中的每一个都会排放
超一千兆吨的二氧化碳。
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So as the wind turbines peacefully spin
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因此,当风力涡轮机[在]他们向我们
展示的电视广告中平静地旋转时,
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[in] the TV commercials
they present to us,
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fossil fuel industries are expanding
everywhere around the world.
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化石燃料工业正在世界各地扩张,
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And dancing on our chances to create
anything like a climate justice world.
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并危害着我们创造一个
气候正义的世界的机会。
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And after all, this isn't
just about the climate.
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但这终究不仅仅是气候的问题。
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Back in Hamburg 30 years ago,
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在 30 年前的汉堡,
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when my grandmother installed
her first solar panel on the roof
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当我的祖母在屋顶上安装了
她的第一个太阳能板,
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and people started talking
of the German “Energiewende,”
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当人们开始谈论德国的
“能源转型”时,
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it was estimated that Germany
could become energy independent.
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据估计,德国可以
实现能源的自给自足。
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It didn't happen.
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但这并没有发生。
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Why?
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为什么?
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Fossil fuel industries went ahead,
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化石燃料行业先行了一步,
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lobbied against environmental policies
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游说反对环境政策,
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and together with their
political supporters,
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并与他们的政治支持者一起,
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brought the energy transition in Germany
almost to a complete halt.
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使德国的能源转型几乎完全停滞。
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More than 100,000 jobs were lost
in the solar industry alone,
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仅在太阳能行业,就有
超过 10 万个工作岗位流失。
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and as the energy transition slowed down,
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而且随着能源转型的放缓,
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Germany imported more fossil fuels
from Russia than any other country.
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德国从俄罗斯进口的化石燃料
变得比任何其他国家都多。
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And now we watch
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而现在我们看到
06:44
as Vladimir Putin invades Ukraine.
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弗拉基米尔·普京入侵乌克兰,
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Made possible by a fossil fuel
war machinery
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这是由德国这样的国家资助的
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and paid for by countries like Germany.
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化石燃料战争机器所实现的。
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Fossil fuels don't only take
lives and livelihoods
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化石燃料不仅夺走生命、生计
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and destroy our climate.
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和破坏我们的气候,
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They empower autocrats everywhere
to start wars, to threaten democracies,
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它们还使各地的独裁者得以
发动战争,威胁民主国家,
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and to threaten energy systems
in places like Germany
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并威胁全球像德国这样的
地方的能源系统,
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and across the globe onto their knees.
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使其毫无招架之力。
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I grew up in a world where fossil fuels,
one way or the other,
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我在一个化石燃料总以某种方式
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would protect our democracies,
our economies and our peace.
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保护我们的民主制度、
经济和和平的世界里长大。
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Yet the truth is,
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然而事实是,
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in the 21st century,
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在 21 世纪,
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we need to understand fossil fuels
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我们需要理解化石燃料
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as a single great threat
to our democracies,
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是对我们的民主制度、经济和
和平的一个巨大威胁。
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our economies, and our peace.
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07:40
So what can be the role of fossil fuel
industries in the 21st century?
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那么,在 21 世纪,化石燃料
产业扮演着什么角色呢?
07:45
To the fossil fuel executives, the boards,
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对于化石燃料的高管、董事会、
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the shareholders and everyone attached,
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股东和所有其他相关人员来说,
07:49
the messages are quite simple:
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道理非常简单:
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stop expanding fossil fuels
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停止扩张化石燃料开采,
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and stop lying to us about that.
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并停止在这方面对我们撒谎。
07:57
Yet maybe we shouldn't trust
those messages to reach the right people
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然而,也许我们不该相信这些信息能
08:00
in the short amount of time we have left.
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在我们所剩的短暂时间内
被传达给正确的人。
08:03
So there are other messages
for everyone else.
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因此,还有一些要
传达给其他所有人的信息。
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Number one,
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第一,
08:09
if fossil fuel industries don't listen
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如果化石燃料行业不听取
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when people and science tell them
to get out of fossil fuels,
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人们和科学的话,
让他们摆脱化石燃料,
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they should not be listened to
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人们也不该听他们
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when they tell us more fairy tales
about wanting to be part of the solution.
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告诉我们更多所谓想成为
解决方案的一部分的童话故事。
08:25
Number two,
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第二,
08:27
if fossil fuel industries don't stop
the destruction of livelihoods,
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如果化石燃料行业
不停止对生计的破坏,
08:30
especially in the most affected places,
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特别是在受影响最严重的地方,
08:33
they need to be stopped by us.
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那么我们必须要阻止他们。
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And number three,
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第三,
08:40
if fossil fuel industries
get to make the rules
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如果化石燃料行业能够制定
08:45
about the transition
we so desperately need,
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关于我们迫切需要的
转型的规则的话,
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we will not get that transition.
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我们将无法转型。
08:52
These rules will have
to be made by the people
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这些规则将必须由人民来制定,
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so they can ever be just
and ever be on time.
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才会是公正且准时的。
08:58
And they will have to be
informed by the science
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而且,它们必须以科学为依据。
09:00
that luckily today tells us
everything that we need to know.
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幸运的是,当今的科学能
告诉我们需要知道的一切。
09:06
So this is a call
for the people everywhere,
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因此,这是对世界
各地人民的一个呼吁。
09:09
for the normal people
to stop their normal lives
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请老百姓们停止他们的正常生活,
09:12
and start beginning
to build a new tomorrow
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并开始打造一个新的明天,
09:16
so that at some point
we can have a new normal again.
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从而在某个时刻,让我们可以
重新拥有一个新的常态。
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That new tomorrow,
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那个新的明天,
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it won't be built for those who have
brought us into this entire mess,
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它不会是为那些把我们带入
这整个混乱局面的人建立的,
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whom we have no reason to trust
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我们没有理由相信他们。
09:29
and who wish to sit
at the same table as we do,
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他们希望与我们坐在同一张桌子上,
09:32
but will never sit at our side.
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却永远不会与我们坐在同一边。
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It will be built for everyone else.
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它将会是为其他所有人而建的。
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It will put people over profits
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它将把人置于利益之上,
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and lives over fossil fuels.
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把生命置于化石燃料之上。
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It will be just,
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它将是公正的,
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and it will be safe after all.
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并且它终将是安全的。
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So I'd say, let's get to work.
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所以我想说,让我们开始行动吧。
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Thank you.
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谢谢大家。
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(Applause)
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