A Cleaner World Could Start in a Rice Field | Jim Whitaker and Jessica Whitaker Allen | TED

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翻译人员: Chen Xuan 校对人员: Jacky He
00:08
Jim Whitaker: I grew up on a family farm.
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吉姆·惠特克 (Jim Whitaker): 我在家庭农场长大。
00:10
My family's been farming for 130 years in southeast Arkansas,
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我的家族在阿肯色州东南部 耕种了 130 年,
00:14
and I'm a fifth generation farmer.
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我是第五代农民。
00:17
We raise cotton, rice, corn and soybeans,
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我们种植棉花、大米、玉米和大豆,
00:20
along with my brother Sam,
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和我的兄弟山姆还有亲戚们一起,
00:22
our extended families
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00:24
and a lot of great coworkers, could not do it without them.
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以及许多优秀的同事, 没有他们我们走不到今天。
00:28
So when I was 16 years old,
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16 岁那年的一天,我放学回家。
00:32
I came home from school one day.
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00:33
It was my dad's birthday.
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那是我爸的生日。 三天后是我的生日。
00:35
My birthday was three days later.
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00:39
I expected in some type of party event.
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我期待着某种庆祝活动。
00:42
But my dad had just went through the historic 1980 drought,
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但是我爸刚经历了 1980 年历史性的干旱,
00:47
and when I got home that day, my mom was crying,
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那天我回到家时,我妈妈在哭,
00:50
my dad was trying to console her,
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我爸试图安慰着她,
00:53
and there's a foreclosure letter on the bar.
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厨房台面上有一封止赎信。
00:58
We thought we were going to lose the family farm
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我们以为我们会失去 家族里传承几代的农场。
01:01
that we had had in our family for generations.
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01:07
Luckily, we did not lose the farm,
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幸运的是,我们没有失去农场,
01:09
but he still struggled financially.
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但财务状况仍然很艰难。
01:11
When I was 22 years old, after a little time in the army,
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我 22 岁的时候,在军队 服役了一段时间后,
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I decided I was going to start farming.
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我决定要开始从事农业。
01:19
So my brother and I rented a farm.
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于是我和我的兄弟租了一个农场。
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My dad couldn't help us, he didn't have the finances.
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我爸没有财力帮助我们,
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He could not help us get started.
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没办法助我们一臂之力。
01:25
Farming is very capital-intensive business.
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农业是一类重资本型产业。
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And so we got an FHA beginning farmer loan.
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我们拿到了联邦住房管理局的 初始农民贷款。
01:32
And let me tell you something about renting a farm
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让我告诉你一些 22 岁年轻人 租借农场会发生的事情。
01:34
when you're 22 years old.
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01:37
No one rents you a farm unless no one else wants to rent it.
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那就是没有人会优先把农场租给你。
01:42
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:45
It was a big piece of land, it was cash rent.
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那是很大一片土地,租金不少。
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I mean, the stakes were set.
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也意味着,风险在这儿。
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We were doomed to fail.
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我们很可能失败。
01:53
And we weren't focused on environmental sustainability back then.
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而当时我们并不关心环保可持续性。
01:56
We were focused on economic sustainability.
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我们只关心经济可行性。
01:59
How do we make higher yield, how do we use less fertilizer?
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我们如何提高产量, 如何减少肥料的使用?
02:02
How do we get to the next year and feed our family?
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我们如何养家糊口, 保证农场存活到明年?
02:07
And ...
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02:09
It happens that economic and environmental sustainability go hand in hand
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碰巧的是,经济和环境的可持续性与 社会的可持续性是密切相关的。
02:13
along with social sustainability.
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02:15
As we used less fertilizer, used less water,
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随着肥料与用水量的减少,
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our yields started going up.
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产量开始上升。
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It was just a great thing.
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这是件很棒的事情。
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So one of the first things we did on our rice fields,
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我们在稻田里做的第一件事
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we adopted a technique that's a little different.
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便是采用一种略微独特的技术。
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We leveled our fields completely flat.
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我们把田地完全平整。
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This is called zero-grade.
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我们称之为零坡度。
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Rice all over the world is grown in a flooded environment.
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世界各地的水稻都是 在淹水的水田中种植的。
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Everywhere.
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任何地方。
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And most people use the natural contour of the Earth
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大多数人利用土地的自然坡度
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to cascade the water down and let the water flow downhill.
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引导水流逐层向下流动。
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And there are always, we call it continuous flood.
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我们称其为持续性淹水。
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They continuously put water on their fields.
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这种方法持续地将水引入田地。
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And we leveled ours flat with a perimeter road.
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而我们将田地平整, 又在外围修建了一条沟渠。
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And what that perimeter road lets us do is capture rainfall.
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这条沟渠帮助我们捕捉降雨。
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So we actually pump less water, we are able to use less water,
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因此,实际上我们减少了抽水量, 从而减少了用水量,
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we have less runoff, less erosion, less nutrients leaving our field.
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我们的水流更少,侵蚀下降, 流失的养分变少。
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Nothing leaves our field unless we want it to.
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我们是封闭性的地皮。
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So I get around farmers
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我还和其他农民沟通,
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and I tell them about potential carbon credits and other things,
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告诉他们一些 碳信用额度之类的事情。
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and our family was lucky,
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我们家很幸运,
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we were one of the first ever in the world
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在 2016 年,我们是世界上最早
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to sell agricultural carbon credits in 2016 to Microsoft using this protocol
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向微软出售农业 碳信用额度的农场之一,
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that we've designed on rice.
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用的就是我们在水稻上设定的协议。
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And I got that --
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我的成功——
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Let me just back up a little bit and tell you how I got that.
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我来为你们分享成功的经验。
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I didn't get that on my own.
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不仅仅是靠我自己。
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I met two very instrumental people.
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我遇到了两个非常重要的人。
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One was Dr. Merle Anders.
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其中一位是梅尔·安德斯博士 (Dr. Merle Anders)。
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He is the world-renowned greenhouse gas expert,
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他是世界知名的温室气体专家,
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and he started mentoring me.
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他开始指导我。
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The other was a buyer from Mars Foods,
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另一位是玛氏食品的采购员,
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and we were in a leadership class together.
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我们上同样的领导力课程。
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And we started talking and we started thinking about sustainability.
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我们交谈起来, 谈到可持续发展这件事。
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So that's how my journey started.
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我的旅程就是这样开始的。
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But you know, when I tell other farmers
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但当我告诉其他农民
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that they could potentially sell carbon credit,
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他们或许可以出售碳信用额度,
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they could help companies reduce their scope 3 emissions,
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可以帮助公司减少三阶排放,
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they could save money,
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可以节省开支,
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possibly enroll in environmental climate-smart practices
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可以加入政府组织的 气候适应的环境行动,
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for the government,
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04:25
they say, "I'm just trying to get by."
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他们说:“我只是在维持生计。”
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Farming is a generational business.
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农业是一项世代相传的生意。
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People have been doing things, passed down father to son, father to son.
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工作一成不变, 技能是父子间传承下去,
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And you'll see, father to daughter, here in a minute.
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也可以是父女。
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It's passed down generationally,
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这是代代相传的,
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and we only get one chance a year to make a mistake.
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每年没多少犯错的余地。
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So when you tell people about doing things that are outside their norm,
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所以,当你提议做一些 偏离传统的事情时,
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it scares the heck out of them.
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人们会很担心。
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So I found a different way of talking to them about it.
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所以我换了种方式跟他们交流。
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I say, "Well, you know, you could save 40 to 50 dollars
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我说:“行,你可以节省 四五十美元的抽水成本。
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on your pumping cost.
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You could sell a carbon credit.
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你可以出售碳信用额度。
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You could get paid more by a company for doing the right thing."
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你还可能会因为做了正确的事 而从公司那里获得更多的报酬。”
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This starts to pique their interest.
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这下他们就有兴趣了。
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Risk mitigation is how we're going to get farmers involved.
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我们让农民参与的方式是降低风险。
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We are a for-profit industry,
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我们做的是营利性行业,
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so they're not going to do anything that they think hurts their yields.
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所以人们不会做任何 降低收成的事。
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So Jessica,
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Jessica 上了大学,
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went to college, got a business degree, a sustainability minor,
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获得商业学位, 和可持续发展证书,
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went on to get her MBA, emphasis on finance.
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又去读了工商管理硕士,主修金融。
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Now she's back helping me.
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她现在回家做我的帮手。
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Not all the time on the family farm.
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不是一直在我们家的农场。
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She works for Ducks Unlimited,
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她在 Ducks Unlimited 工作,
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one of the most aggressive conservationists in the rice industry.
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这是水稻产业里 最强势的环境保护组织之一。
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They are an awesome partner to work with.
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他们是很棒的合作伙伴。
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She's back working with Ducks Unlimited,
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杰西卡在 Ducks Unlimited 工作,
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but she's been helping me with protocols and data collection.
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但她同时一直在帮助我 处理协议和数据收集。
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One of the things that I wanted to figure out was,
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我想理解几件事:
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number one: What’s important?
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首先。重点是什么?
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How are we going to quantify it?
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我们怎么将其量化?
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And then how are we going to sell that data?
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之后,我们怎么出售此数据?
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Because everyone here wants to know, "Can we have your data?"
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因为许多人想知道: “可以把数据给我们吗?”
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No, you can't.
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不太行。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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Anyway, so we're trying to figure out how to quantify that.
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总之,我们正在努力弄清楚 如何量化这一点。
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So we established what is called the Smart Rice protocol.
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我们创建了“智慧水稻协议”。
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We partner with a global seed company, RiceTec,
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我们与一家全球种子公司 RiceTec 合作,
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and we have one of the first ever --
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并且推出我们有史以来第一批——
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there's a couple more --
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和另外几批——
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I promise you it's the most rigorous,
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我向你保证,标准非常严格,
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but we have one of the first ever third-party verified,
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这是有史以来第一批 第三方认证的
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sustainable rice packages that hit the market a few months ago,
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商业可持续大米, 在几个月前进入市场,
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and we’re trying to get in retail locations.
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并且我们正努力开展零售。
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And then we’re also helping some major end users with their scope 3.
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我们还在帮助一些 核心客户减少三阶排放。
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And I think that's going to be the future.
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我认为那会是水稻种植的未来。
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But Jessica's role in growing rice is much different than mine,
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而杰西卡水稻种植方面 扮演了与我不同的角色。
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and she's part of the next generation to come take over our family farm.
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她被纳入运营我们 家庭农场的下一代团队。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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Jessica Whitaker Allen: I'm a sixth generation farmer.
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杰西卡·惠特克·艾伦 (Jessica Whitaker Allen):我是第六代农民。
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Growing up, I remember running around outside barefoot,
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我记得在童年, 赤脚在外面跑来跑去,
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catching as many snakes, turtles, frogs as possible,
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抓到许多蛇、乌龟和青蛙,
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and then trying to convince my parents to let me keep them inside as pets.
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然后试图说服父母 把它们当作宠物养着。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Eventually, my dad bought me an aquarium,
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最终,我爸给我买了一个水族箱,
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and we had fun with that for a little while inside
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最初还蛮有趣,
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until a few of the snakes got lost in our house
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直到几条蛇在我们家里失踪了,
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and we never found them.
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我们没发现它们。
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Sorry.
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对不起。
07:34
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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We live and work in southeast Arkansas.
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我们家在阿肯色州东南部,
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McGehee, specifically.
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阿肯色州麦吉市。
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Our town has 4,000 residents and one stoplight.
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我们这个镇有 4,000 名 居民和一个红绿灯。
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The nearest airport, Starbucks, shopping mall, Whole Foods,
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距离我们最近的机场、星巴克、 购物中心、全食超市,
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is two hours away in any direction.
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都在两个小时车程以外。
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Without places like this and farmers like us,
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但不是这样的地方, 这样的农民,
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you'd be hungry, naked and sober.
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你们也不会有饭吃, 不会有衣服穿,也没有酒喝。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:59
(Applause)
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(掌声)
08:07
I sometimes jokingly say that I have three,
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我有时会开玩笑说, 我有三份全职工作,
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sometimes four full-time jobs,
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甚至四份全职工作,
08:13
but I really have three or four full-time jobs.
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但这并未夸大。
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My day job is as a conservation coordinator with Ducks Unlimited
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白天,我在 Ducks Unlimited 担任环保专员,
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under the Rice Stewardship Partnership.
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在美国水稻合作管理项目下工作。
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I work alongside rice farmers to protect,
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我与稻农合作,致力为当地保护、
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restore and manage wetlands for waterfowl.
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恢复和管理水鸟的湿地。
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Waterfowl spend a lot of time in rice fields, by the way.
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因为水鸟会长时间呆在稻田里。
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I’m also a wife, mother,
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同时,我作为妻子和母亲,
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and I do anything and everything I can for our family farm.
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为家庭农场付出许多。
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The last one doesn't pay the bills,
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这个不盈利, 是应我爸的请求。
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but it's hard to say no to my dad.
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08:42
So when he sent me an email about a grant he was interested in
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一年多前,他给我发了一封邮件, 关于他看中的一项补助金,
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a little over a year ago, I got to work.
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我立马着手开始工作。
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My dad releases the butterflies and I have to catch them.
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我爸对未来寄予的 希望要由我来实现。
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I have to figure out how to do what's going on,
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我得去具体实现他的计划。
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whatever is in his mind.
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He's the thinker, I'm the doer.
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我爸是思想家,我是行动者。
09:01
This grant specifically was the USDA's partnerships
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这项补助金是 美国农业部的合作项目,
09:04
for climate-smart commodities.
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针对气候友好的产品。
09:07
I submitted a proposal on behalf of our farm,
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我代表我们农场提交了一份提案 ,
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and it was successfully selected.
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并被成功挑选。
09:12
We are going to work with farmers in southeast Arkansas
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我们将与阿肯色州 东南部的农民合作,
09:15
to educate them about the benefits of growing sustainable rice.
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向他们普及种植 可持续水稻的好处。
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We're going to work with veterans, immigrants,
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我们也和退役军人,移民,
09:23
limited-resource and socially disadvantaged farmers.
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以及资源有限, 弱势的农民合作,
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Farmers that aren't so different from my family just a few generations ago.
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他们几代前与我家并无差别。
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We will then implement pay-for-practices
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我们会靠实施环保的 耕种方式获得补助,
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such as alternate wetting and drying, cover crop, no till and low till.
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例如干湿交替灌溉、覆盖作物、 免耕和少耕技术。
09:39
We will then help them learn about
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然后,我们将帮助他们学习、
09:42
and document their greenhouse gas benefits.
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记录他们的温室气体效益。
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Monitor, measure, report and verify them.
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并且监控、测量、报告 和证实这些信息;
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Then market and sell that rice, at a premium,
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继而营销,加价卖出这批大米,
09:52
to help them realize the benefits of producing sustainable rice.
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给他们体会可持续大米种植的 益处,即收入的增加。
09:56
The economic advantage.
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09:58
I'm a farmer, but not in the way you might think.
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我是农民, 但与你假设的不同,
10:01
I don’t drive the tractors, and I don’t plant the rice.
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我不开拖拉机,也不耕种水稻。
10:05
But I know how to take what my dad has learned
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但我懂得利用我父亲学到的知识,
10:07
and what he is doing and share that with others.
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利用他的实践方式,并与他人分享。
10:09
I know how to interpret the data
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我知道如何分析数据,
10:11
and see the reduction in inputs
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也知道投入的减少会对经济 和环境产生影响。
10:13
that has both an economic and an environmental impact.
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10:17
I don't know if that alone is enough to stop climate change,
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我不知道这是否足以阻止气候变化,
10:20
but I'm surrounded by farmers that are doing everything they can
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但我身边皆是尽己所能 推动可持续性的农民。
10:24
to be more sustainable.
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10:25
I think my brother and I will take over the farm someday
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未来,在我爸同意之后, 我和我的兄弟会接管农场。
10:28
if my dad lets us.
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10:30
And hopefully when my son is old enough,
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希望等我儿子长大后,
10:34
I'll take him out on the farm and show him what I do.
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我能带他去农场, 给他展示我的工作。
10:37
I'll tell him he can go do whatever he wants to do,
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我会任他走自己的道路,
10:39
and hopefully one day I'll see him back on the farm,
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不过我希望终能见到他返回农场,
10:42
the seventh generation.
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作为第七代农民。
10:45
But for that to happen,
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但要到达这个目标,
10:46
we need a sustainable farming industry,
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需要积极的农业文化,
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one that rewards trailblazers and early adopters
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要奖励开拓者和早期的实践者,
10:52
instead of penalizing them.
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而不是制裁他们。
10:54
Farmers like my family
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像我的家人这样的农民,
10:55
who are on the front lines of sustainable rice production.
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站在可持续水稻生产前线的农民。
10:59
JW: So Jessica mentioned alternate wetting and drying.
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JW:杰西卡提到了干湿交替灌溉。
11:02
And I think in my haste, I left it out.
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我刚才匆忙之中遗漏了它,
11:05
So let me tell you what it is.
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现在来细讲。
11:08
It is when we flood a rice field continuously, like my dad taught us,
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我们持续浇灌一片水稻田时, 按照父亲的指示,
11:12
we put four inches of water on it.
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会加上四英寸深的水。
11:14
We have an evaporation rate of about a quarter inch a day,
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每天蒸发四分之一英寸,
11:17
so we have about 16 days of available water.
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所以大约可用 16 天。
11:20
Rice is an anaerobic crop.
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水稻是一种厌氧作物。
11:22
It's grown in flooded conditions.
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它是在淹水条件下生长的。
11:23
When the soil starts to dry,
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当土壤开始干燥,
11:26
the microbial community goes dormant,
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微生物群落就会进入休眠状态,
11:28
and the field stops emitting methane emissions.
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田地便会停止排放甲烷。
11:31
Let me tell you why that's important.
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这里面的道理是,
11:33
There are 400 million acres of rice grown globally.
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全球四亿英亩的土地用于种植水稻,
11:35
It is the largest emitter of methane gas.
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是最大的甲烷气体来源,
11:37
It is the largest user of irrigation water,
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也是灌溉水最主要的用途。
11:39
and our methods, if used, can reduce greenhouse gas by 50 percent,
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使用我们的方法, 可以将温室气体排放量减少一半,
11:43
reduce water use by 50 percent,
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用水量减半,
11:46
increase yields to feed a hungry world.
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同时提高产量,养活世界。
11:49
(Applause)
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(掌声)
11:58
JWA: If our protocols were adopted more widely,
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杰西卡:如果我们的协议 更加广泛地被采用,
12:02
can you imagine the benefits?
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你觉得好处会是什么?
12:04
If you take care of the planet, it will take care of you.
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如果你爱护地球, 地球也会回报你。
12:07
That's true for farmers and for all of us.
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对农民和其他人均是这样。
12:10
Farmers take care of consumers,
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农民为消费者负责,
12:12
take care of all of you every single day.
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每一天负责供给你们。
12:14
It's time for you to start taking care of farmers.
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现在你们得为农民考虑。
12:17
Thank you.
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谢谢。
12:18
JW: Thank you.
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JW:谢谢大家。
12:19
(Applause and cheers)
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(掌声和欢呼声)
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