How I Found Myself — By Impersonating Other People | Melissa Villaseñor | TED

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00:03
Hi, I'm Melissa Villaseñor, and I do voice impressions.
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大家好,我叫梅丽莎·维兰斯纳, 我从事声音模仿工作。
00:08
For example,
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举个例子,
00:09
this is Kristen Wiig about to go skydiving.
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这是准备要跳伞的克里斯汀·韦格。
00:14
“I changed my mind.
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“我改主意了。
00:17
I'm, I'm scared, I'm scared I'll get stuck on a cloud,
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我……我害怕,我害怕了, 我会被困在云上的,
00:20
and then I’ll have to become an angel.”
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然后我就得变成天使了。”
00:23
(Laughter and applause)
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(笑声和掌声)
00:25
Thanks.
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谢谢。
00:27
This is Sandra Bullock
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这个是桑德拉·布洛克,
00:29
if she were to knock over a bunch of dominoes.
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如果她要撞倒一堆多米诺骨牌了,
00:32
Just pretend they're here in the room.
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假设就在这个房间里,她是这样的:
00:34
“No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.”
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“不不不不不不……”
00:36
That's it.
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就这样。
00:37
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
00:38
She always does that in movies.
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她在电影里经常这样。
00:40
And this is Lady Gaga
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然后这是Lady Gaga,
00:42
if she gave birth to a baby in "A Star is Born."
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假设她在《星海浮沉录》里要生孩子了。
00:46
(Vocalizing)
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(模仿声音)
00:58
(Vocalizing baby crying)
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(模拟宝宝的哭声)
01:00
(Applause and laughter)
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(掌声和笑声)
01:03
Miss Gaga, a star is born.
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嘎嘎女士,一个巨星诞生了。
01:04
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:07
And this is Melissa Villaseñor giving a TED Talk.
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这是梅丽莎·维兰斯纳做TED演讲:
01:10
Hi, I'm Melissa Villaseñor and I do voice impressions.
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大家好,我叫梅丽莎·维兰斯纳, 我从事声音模仿工作。
01:14
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:15
A little bit about me.
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简单介绍一下我自己。
01:16
Born and raised in Los Angeles, California,
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我出生并成长于加州洛杉矶的
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to a Mexican-American family.
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一个墨西哥-美国混血家庭。
01:22
Middle child, OK, I was very shy.
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是夹在兄弟姐妹中间的那个孩子。 我之前是个很害羞的人。
01:25
I didn't do the best in school,
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我上学成绩也不算好,
01:27
but I was very observant, maybe a little creepy.
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但非常有观察力,可能都有点吓人。
01:30
And I realized I had this superpower of doing voice impressions
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我意识到我有这种声音模仿的超能力时,
01:34
when I was 12 years old.
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是十二岁。
01:35
And it all began with the pop singers at that time, OK.
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这一切都起源于当时流行的歌手。
01:39
Britney Spears:
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小甜甜布兰妮:
01:40
“All you people look at me like I’m a little girl.”
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“你们看着我就像看 着一个小姑娘一样。”
01:44
I know, spooky.
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我知道,挺恐怖的。
01:46
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:49
And hot.
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也挺热辣的哈。
01:50
I should do that all the time, huh?
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我应该经常模仿这个,对吧?
01:52
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:54
I sang a lot of Shakira back then, just,
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我那个时候也经常模仿夏奇拉,
01:57
“There’s a she wolf in the closet.”
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“有只狼女躲在你的衣橱里”
02:00
And I was kind of wolf-like singing at 13, you know, hairy, puberty days.
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我13岁时就是有点像狼一样唱歌, 也就是那个毛发旺盛、正值青春的年纪,
02:04
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:06
I looked up to Gwen Stefani in high school.
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我高中时崇拜格温·史蒂芬妮,
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I loved Gwen Stefani from No Doubt, and I wanted to look like her.
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超喜欢摇滚乐团“不要怀疑”
里的格温·史蒂芬妮, 想要长成她那样。
02:13
So I shaved my eyebrows real thin to copy her,
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于是,我模仿她, 把眉毛刮得特别细,
02:15
like in the "Return of Saturn" days, that Gwen.
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像《Return of Saturn》 专辑时期的格温那样。
02:18
And I thought, "Oh, my friends at school must think
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然后我就想:“我学校 的朋友们肯定会觉得
02:21
I look just like Gwen Stefani."
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我和格温·史蒂芬妮很像。”
02:23
I probably looked more like It, the clown.
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但我看起来其实可能更像是 《小丑回魂》里的小丑。
02:25
It was spooky, thin, just,
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就是那种很吓人、很细的眉毛。
02:27
“I kinda always knew I’d end up looking like It.”
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“我一直都知道我最终 看起来会是这个样子的。”
02:30
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:33
I loved making my friends laugh at school with my voices.
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我在学校里很喜欢用 我的声音来逗笑朋友们。
02:37
And I suddenly wasn't so shy anymore.
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于是我突然变得不再那么害羞了。
02:39
I felt like, oh, this is why I'm here.
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我感觉,啊,原来这就是 我出现在这里的原因。
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This is my purpose, to bring joy and laughs.
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这就是我的意义: 带来快乐和欢笑。
02:44
And I suddenly got obsessed with Saturday Night Live at 15 years old.
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我十五岁时突然就沉迷于 《周六夜现场》节目了。
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And I was so determined, I was like,
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我当时就下定决心,
02:49
I'm going to become a comedian
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将来要成为一名喜剧演员,
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and I'm going to get on the cast of Saturday Night Live.
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我要成为《周六夜现场》的演职人员。
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So right after high school, I graduate,
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所以,高中一结束学业,我毕业了,
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I go straight to signing up for open mic shows in Hollywood.
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我就直接去好莱坞报名参加开放麦演出。
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My parents went straight to worrying for their daughter.
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我父母就直接开始担心自己的女儿了。
03:03
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:04
Now I went to junior college for them.
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然后我为了他们去上了大专。
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You know, I went for, like, a quarter or a semester.
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我大概就上了三个月或一个学期吧,
03:09
I don't know, I wasn't there long enough to find out.
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我也不知道, 因为待的时间不长,
根本不懂那算不算一个学期。
03:12
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:14
But thankfully I got amazing opportunities pretty early on in my career
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不过,谢天谢地,我很早 就获得了超棒的职业机遇,
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because I think it was rare to see a female voice impressionist
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因为我觉得当时在喜剧俱乐部
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at comedy clubs.
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很少看到女性声音模仿演员,
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And a cute one.
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而且还是这么可爱的一个。
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(Laughs)
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(笑)
03:27
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:31
But I got the opportunity to be on “America’s Got Talent”
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不过我获得了上《美国达人秀》的机会,
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season six in 2011.
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当时是2011年,第六季。
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I'm not going to lie, I killed it, OK, 90 seconds.
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不骗人啊,我当时表现得 可好了,90秒里,
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I did a bunch of impressions, just,
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我模仿了很多人的声音,
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Barbara Walters.
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芭芭拉·沃尔特斯。
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I did a Natalie Portman from the "Black Swan."
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我模仿了《黑天鹅》 里的娜塔丽·波特曼,
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I did a Sarah Silverman.
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模仿了莎拉·斯尔弗曼,
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Wanda Sykes.
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旺达·塞克丝,
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I did Miley Cyrus.
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麦莉·赛勒斯,
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And Christina Aguilera, oh, oh.
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克里斯蒂娜·阿奎莱拉
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:01
From that exposure, being on that show,
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因为那次节目上的亮相,
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I was able to quit my part-time job
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我得以辞掉兼职工作,
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and become a headlining comedian around the country
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成为全国知名的喜剧演员,
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for clubs and colleges.
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去俱乐部、大学演出。
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Now, that's amazing if you've been doing stand up for a while,
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如果你脱口秀已经做了一段时间了, 那这种机会就非常棒。
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but I only had ten minutes and suddenly I had to do an hour
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但我之前都只做过10分钟了, 突然之间让我去喜剧俱乐部
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at comedy club.
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进行一小时的脱口秀演出。
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So I bombed a lot.
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我演砸了好多次,
04:19
I cried in a lot of hotels around the country.
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在全国各地很多酒店哭过。
04:24
But I noticed something as I was on the road,
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但我发现一点,随着我一路前行,
04:26
working on jokes and performing,
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打磨段子和表演,
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I noticed that everyone was laughing at all the impression bits.
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我发现所有人都是在我模仿的时候笑。
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But every time I tried to talk about myself and my life, my family,
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但每次当我试着聊我自己、 我的生活和我的家人时,
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it didn't get laughs and it was starting to bug me.
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都没有人笑,这一点开始困扰我了。
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People will come up to me after shows and they would go,
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演出结束后,人们会过来跟我说:
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"Oh, I love your Owen Wilson impression.
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“我很喜欢你模仿的欧文·威尔逊,
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He's so funny."
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他太逗了。”
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And I'd say, "Thanks,"
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然后我说:“谢谢。”
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but inside I'd be like,
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但心里想的却是:
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"Wait, do they only like me for my Owen Wilson impression, wow?
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“等等,所以他们只喜欢 我模仿欧文·威尔逊这段?
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That really bums me out, man."
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我真的好受伤。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:58
So at that point I became determined again.
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这个时候,我又再次下定决心,
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I was like, no, I'm going to write about myself.
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我要开始写关于我自己的故事了。
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I want to find my own voice among the voices that I do
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我希望在我模仿的这些 声音里找到我自己的声音。
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because I think it's important and it's special,
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因为这很重要,也很特别。
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and I think it's the best feeling to connect
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我觉得用真正的自己
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as your true self with other people.
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和别人建立连接才是最棒的感受。
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(Laughs)
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(笑)
05:16
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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And, you know, thankfully, I did find a voice.
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然后,很幸运,我找到了一个声音,
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Yeah, a funny-sounding one, but a voice.
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一个听起来很搞笑的声音, 但至少是一个声音。
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And I like making fun of things in life.
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我喜欢拿生活中的事情开玩笑,
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It just makes life a little easier to handle.
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这样可以让人更轻松地面对生活。
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I like making fun of my energy.
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我喜欢拿我的能量开玩笑。
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It's not sexy.
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并不性感。
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You feel it.
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你感受一下。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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My energy is a lot like a proud dad's.
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我的能量蛮像一个骄傲老爸的能量。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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No wonder relationships don't work out.
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难怪我的感情之路坎坷。
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Because every time I go on a date,
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因为每次我去约会,
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I check out the dude, first thing I go,
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我看了看对方,说的第一句话就是:
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"Man, look at you."
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“哥们儿,看看你。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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"Ah, you look good.
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“啊,你看起来挺不错啊。
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Is that a new jacket?
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那件夹克是新的吗?
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You look really sharp, my boy."
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小伙子,你看着真精神啊。”
05:53
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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"Here's 20 bucks.
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“这里有20块钱,
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Don't tell your mom, go ahead."
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可别告诉你妈,快去玩吧。”
05:58
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
05:59
I like talking about how I'm Mexican, you know?
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我喜欢谈论我是墨西哥人。
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And I don't look it, a lot of people don't believe me.
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我看上去不太像,很多人都不信我。
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All my life, people would say,
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在我生活中,大家总说:
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"Oh, you're Mexican? You don't look Mexican."
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“啊,你是墨西哥人? 你看着不像啊。”
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And I get so apologetic, I'm like,
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然后我充满歉意,说:
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"Oh, I'm so sorry, I forgot my sombrero.
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“非常抱歉,我忘了戴墨西哥宽边帽了。
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Oh, man.
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噢,坏了
06:15
Did I not roll my Rs enough? Sorry."
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我是不是忘了发 卷舌音了?不好意思啊。”
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And I just have to salsa away.
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然后我就得跳着萨尔萨舞离开。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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I know, exterior, you wouldn't believe it,
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我知道,看外表,你不会相信,
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but just know that inside ...
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但,我内心里……
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A lot of piñatas in here.
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可是有很多墨西哥皮纳塔的。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:29
I bleed Tapatío.
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我的血液里流淌着墨西哥热辣酱。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:33
You know, I don't speak Spanish.
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我不会说西班牙语。
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I was a lazy kid,
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我小时候很懒,
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second generation Mexican, I didn't work on it.
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是墨西哥移民第二代,没有用心学。
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I know, shame on me.
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我知道,很丢脸。
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Or as you would say in Spanish ...
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或者,用西班牙语说,就是……
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I don't know.
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我不知道怎么说。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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I have been working on my Spanish though,
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不过我现在一直在 努力提高我的西班牙语,
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because there's a lot of relatives of mine that only speak in Spanish.
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因为我有很多亲戚只会说西班牙语。
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And I think back when I would hang out with my great grandma, my abuelita,
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我觉得,之前我和我的曾祖母玩的时候,
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you know, I would just nod and smile and wave at her.
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我就只能对她点头、微笑、挥手。
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How rude.
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很没礼貌。
07:02
But she didn't mind, she would just stare at me lovingly, you know.
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但她并不介意,她甚至 还满眼爱意地看着我。
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I'd be like, "Hey, abuelita, how are you?"
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我说:“太奶,你最近怎么样呀?”
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“Ay.”
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“啊。”
07:12
(Speaking in Spanish)
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(说西班牙语)
07:19
Thanks, you’re bonita, too.
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“谢谢,你也bonita。”
07:22
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:23
"Ay."
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“啊。””
07:25
And then she'd start talking crap about me in Spanish.
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然后她开始用西班牙说一些关于我的话。
07:28
(Speaking in Spanish)
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(说西班牙语)
07:30
(Laughs)
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(笑)
07:32
(Speaking in Spanish)
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(说西班牙语)
07:34
(Laughter)
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(笑)
07:36
(Laughs)
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(笑)
07:37
I know I’m loca. You too, huh?
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“我知道我loca,你也是?”
07:39
"No, me no."
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“不,我吗,不不不”
07:40
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:44
(Speaking in Spanish)
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(说西班牙语)
07:50
(Speaking in Spanish)
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(说西班牙语)
07:54
What? The tone changed.
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什么?语气变了。
07:56
What are you two saying over here?
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你俩在那边说什么呢?
07:57
I don’t like this. Why are you sad now?
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我感觉不太好,你们现在 怎么好像很难过的样子?
08:00
(Speaking in Spanish)
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(说西班牙语)
08:03
What is that, boyfriend?
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那是什么,男朋友吗?
08:05
I don’t want one right now, I’m free.
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我现在不想要男朋友,我很自由。
08:09
(Speaking in Spanish)
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(说西班牙语)
08:11
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:13
Fair enough.
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行吧。
08:15
See, I like imitating my family and talking about them,
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看见没,我开始模仿我的家人, 开始聊我的家人了,
08:18
because that'll never get old, that's always a part of me.
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因为这永远都不会过时, 永远都是我的一部分。
08:21
Celebrities, I don't even know them, you know?
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那些名人,我甚至 都不认识他们,你明白吗?
08:23
But this means so much to me.
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但这对我来说意义重大。
08:25
I like imitating my mom, she's a funny character.
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我喜欢模仿我的妈妈, 她是很有意思的一个人。
08:28
When I'm driving my car and she's in the passenger seat,
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我开车的时候, 她坐在副驾驶座上,
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she's a backseat driver,
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很爱指手画脚,
08:33
she comments on my driving,
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会评论我开车。
08:35
and she knows it pisses me off.
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她也知道这会让我生气。
08:37
So she whispers everything about my driving,
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所以她一般都是很小声地评论我开车。
08:40
which is like, that's worse.
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这样其实更糟糕。
08:41
Everything sounds so dirty to my innocent ears.
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因为她说的话在我耳朵里听起来都很脏。
08:44
I'm driving,
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我在开车,
08:46
she's in the passenger seat holding on to that rail, you know.
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她坐在副驾驶座上抓着扶手,
08:49
She's pressing --
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她在踩踏——
08:50
I didn't know there was a brake pedal on that side
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我都不知道副驾驶座那侧有刹车踏板,
08:52
because she is pressing it, she's just --
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因为她在踩刹车踏板,她就——
08:54
(Breathes sharply through teeth)
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(从牙齿缝深呼吸)
08:56
(Whispering) "Slow down."
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(小声说)“减速。”
08:58
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:59
(Whispering) "Oh, you're going too fast."
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(小声说)“你开得太快了。”
09:01
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:03
(Whispering) "Oh, we're not in a rush."
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(小声说)“啊,我们又不着急。”
09:05
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:06
(Whispering) "Oh, my back."
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(小声说)“啊,我的背。”
09:08
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:09
"Oh, there's a spot right there,
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“噢,那儿有一个停车位。
09:11
right there, right there, right there, oh."
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就在那儿,那儿,那儿,噢。”
09:13
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:14
"You missed it."
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“你错过了。”
09:16
Ew, nasty.
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唉,真不爽。
09:18
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:19
Now, after nine years in my journey,
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9年后,
09:22
I did get the chance to audition for Saturday Night Live in 2016,
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2016年,我获得了去 《周六夜现场》面试的机会,
09:26
and I get cast on the show.
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然后成为了这个节目的演职人员。
09:28
(Cheers and applause)
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(欢呼 掌声)
09:33
It was so beautiful to be on the show and magical,
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能上这个节目,真的很棒, 像有魔法一样。
09:36
I felt like I entered ...
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我感觉像是进入了……
09:38
I mean, my dream, it was real.
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我的梦中,但又是真实的。
09:40
It was ...
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就,
09:42
It was beautiful.
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很美好。
09:44
And being on SNL amplified everything I ever wanted,
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上《周六夜现场》 放大了我曾想要的一切,
09:48
especially for doing voices.
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尤其是做声音表演工作。
09:50
Now, I left SNL after six seasons on the show, just recently,
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六季之后,也就是最近, 我离开了这档节目。
09:54
because, one,
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因为,其一,
09:55
I wasn't strong enough anymore to handle the pressure of the show.
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我不再足够坚强到能承受住节目的压力。
09:59
Two,
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其二,
10:00
I wasn't having fun anymore looking up celebrities.
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我不再觉得模仿明星这件事很有趣了。
10:02
And three, there was something inside me, inside Meliss, that was saying,
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其三,我内心,梅丽莎的内心, 有个声音在说:
有个声音在说:
10:07
there's more to discover about myself, there's more talents,
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我自己还有更多有待发掘, 还有更多天赋,
10:12
there's more things to learn, to expand on.
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还有更多能学、能拓展的。
10:15
So now I'm in a funny position because I did the --
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因此现在我处于一个很滑稽 的境地,因为我实现了——
10:20
Evil laugh.
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那个邪恶的笑。
10:21
(Imitates evil laugh)
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(模仿邪恶的笑)
10:22
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:25
No, but it is a funny position I'm in
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我现在确实处于一个有意思的境地,
10:27
because that was the goal I worked for since 15
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因为那曾是我15岁以来追求的目标,
10:30
and it's so like, now, like, what do I do?
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现在感觉就是,我现在要做什么呢?
10:32
Has anyone here reached a life goal and still have years left?
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在座有没有人已经实现了人生目标, 但发现还有很多年要活?
10:36
(Laughter and applause)
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(笑声 鼓掌)
10:40
There was one day recently, I Googled
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最近有一天,我上网搜索
10:43
"What the hell do Olympians do after they go to the Olympics?"
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“奥林匹克运动员参加完 奥运会后都在做什么?”
10:46
Just because I want to know other people that feel this way.
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因为我想知道其他有类似感受的人。
10:49
I did find out on Google, Olympians become teachers and mentors.
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我真的在网上找到了, 奥运会运动员后来有成为老师和导师的。
10:54
And I thought,
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于是我想,
10:56
"Well, eff that. I don't want to do that."
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“好吧,这个划掉。我不想干这个。”
10:58
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:59
The thing I noticed within the six years of being on SNL,
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我在《周六夜现场》 待的六年里,发现了一点,
11:04
there was something -- the best stuff that I did
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有一件我做得最好的事,
11:06
were pieces where I was doing my impressions,
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就是我的有些模仿片段里,
11:10
but I was also very much being Melissa.
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我同时也在做梅丽莎。
11:12
So as I go forth in my journey,
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于是我继续我的旅程。
11:15
I've got to remember to always share the gifts that I have of doing voices
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我记得总要分享我做声音表演的才能,
11:19
and also make sure I could be vulnerable and be myself.
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同时确保我可以有 脆弱一面,可以做我自己。
11:22
So something I love to share at my standup shows is
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于是,我在我的脱口秀 中很爱分享的就是,
11:26
how I struggle with low self-esteem,
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我如何与自卑做斗争,
11:28
and I constantly have to tell myself positive talk and affirmations.
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我如何需要经常给自己打气、自我肯定。
11:32
Now I don't use my voice.
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现在,我不用我自己的声音。
11:34
No, I sound too sarcastic, I don't believe me.
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我自己听起来太刻薄了, 我不相信自己。
11:36
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
11:38
If I say, "I'm good at what I do, I'm funny."
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如果我说:
“我擅长我的工作,我很搞笑。”
11:40
I don't ... no.
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但我不是。
11:42
Thankfully, I have a Dolly Parton impression,
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好在,我还能模仿多莉·帕顿。
11:45
so I say my affirmations as Dolly.
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我用多莉的声音来进行自我肯定。
11:48
Works way better.
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效果好很多。
11:49
“I’m good at what I do.
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“我擅长我的工作。
11:51
I work hard.”
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我很努力。”
11:52
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
11:54
(Singing) I work nine to five.
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(唱)我朝九晚五,
11:57
What a way to make a living.
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多么棒的谋生方式。
11:59
More like 10 minutes because I’m doing a TED Talk.
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不止10分钟,因为我现在 在做TED演讲。
12:03
(Cheers and applause)
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(欢呼 掌声)
12:09
So I hope the lesson or thing you leave with
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我希望你们从这次分享中学到的,
12:13
is that I hope you could put your masks down, your personas,
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就是希望你们能摘下 自己的面罩、放下人设,
12:16
and be your true, true self because man, it rocks.
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做自己,做真正的自己, 因为这样真的超棒。
12:21
Maybe learn a Dolly impression so you could look in the mirrorm
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或许可以学习一下模仿多莉的声音, 这样你可以看着镜子,
12:25
and say, "I am brave, I am beautiful."
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说:“我很勇敢,我很美。”
12:28
Or better yet, learn your Melissa impression
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或者,更好的是, 学习一下模仿梅丽莎,
12:31
so you can look in the mirror and say,
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这样你可以看着镜子说:
12:33
"Man, look at you.
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“哇,看看你,
12:35
Yeah, you're cool."
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没错,你很酷。”
12:37
Muchas gracias, thank you.
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谢谢大家!
12:39
(Cheers and applause)
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(欢呼 掌声)
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