Golan Levin makes art that looks back at you

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翻译人员: Yu Miao 校对人员: Manlai YOU
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Hello! My name is Golan Levin.
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大家好,我是戈兰•莱文。
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I'm an artist and an engineer,
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我是个艺术家,也是工程师。
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which is, increasingly, a more common kind of hybrid.
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也是越来越常见的跨界混血儿。
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But I still fall into this weird crack
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尽管如此我还是会陷入尴尬的境地,
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where people don't seem to understand me.
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就是当人们看起来不明白我做的是什么的时候。
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And I was looking around and I found this wonderful picture.
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于是我就四处找找,并找到了这幅好图。
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It's a letter from "Artforum" in 1967
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这是《 艺术论坛》杂志 (Artforum) 1967年的一封信。
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saying "We can't imagine ever doing a special issue
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上面说 “我们无法想像,何时出版专刊
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on electronics or computers in art." And they still haven't.
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谈电子或电脑艺术。” 他们至今也还没有做到。
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And lest you think that you all, as the digerati, are more enlightened,
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你也许认为,作为数字精英,你们大家更先知先觉,
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I went to the Apple iPhone app store the other day.
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有一天我去了苹果 iPhone 的应用程序专营店,
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Where's art? I got productivity. I got sports.
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艺术在哪儿呢?它有各色产品,有体育方面的等等。
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And somehow the idea that one would want to make art for the iPhone,
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不知何故,为 iPhone 创做艺术的想法,
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which my friends and I are doing now,
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当然这也是我和我伙伴们在做的东西,
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is still not reflected in our understanding
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依然没有得到充分的理解和认知,
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of what computers are for.
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尤其是对于电脑的用处上。
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So, from both directions, there is kind of, I think, a lack of understanding
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所以从认知的双方向看,我以为还是存在一些缺失的,
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about what it could mean to be an artist who uses the materials
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那就是,作为一个使用他自己时代工具的艺术家
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of his own day, or her own day,
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到底意味着什么。
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which I think artists are obliged to do,
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我以为艺术家的一个使命就是,
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is to really explore the expressive potential of the new tools that we have.
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不断拓展我们时代新工具的表达潜能。
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In my own case, I'm an artist,
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以我自己为例呢,我是一个艺术家,
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and I'm really interested in
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我也对以下两件事很感兴趣
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expanding the vocabulary of human action,
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一是拓展人类行为的表达方式,
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and basically empowering people through interactivity.
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还有就是通过互动的形式来赋予人们更多的体验。
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I want people to discover themselves as actors,
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我希望人们用演员的方式来发现自己,
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as creative actors, by having interactive experiences.
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像富有创意的演员那样,通过互动的体验。
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A lot of my work is about trying to get away from this.
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我的很多工作都是为了避免以下这种情况,
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This a photograph of the desktop of a student of mine.
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这是我一个学生的桌面照片,
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And when I say desktop, I don't just mean
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我说的这个桌面呢,不仅仅是指
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the actual desk where his mouse has worn away the surface of the desk.
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这个被鼠标磨没了表面的实体桌面,
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If you look carefully, you can even see
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如果你仔细看,你会发现
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a hint of the Apple menu, up here in the upper left,
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一点苹果菜单的蛛丝马迹,就在这上边左边一点的地方,
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where the virtual world has literally
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虚拟世界就是这么实实在在的
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punched through to the physical.
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穿越了来到了现实世界啊。
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So this is, as Joy Mountford once said,
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所以就像 Joy Mountford (原雅虎用户体验设计副总裁) 说的,
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"The mouse is probably the narrowest straw
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“鼠标可能是世上最细的吸管,
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you could try to suck all of human expression through."
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用它你可以吮吸到所有人类世界的表达。"
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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And the thing I'm really trying to do is enabling people to have more rich
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我正在尝试去做的, 也正是使人们可以拥有更丰富
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kinds of interactive experiences.
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更多样的互动体验。
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How can we get away from the mouse and use our full bodies
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我们怎样才能摆脱鼠标并且使用我们的整个身体
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as a way of exploring aesthetic experiences,
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来做为探索美学体验的方式呢
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not necessarily utilitarian ones.
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这并不需要是实用主义的。
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So I write software. And that's how I do it.
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所以我写软件。这就是我实现它的方式。
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And a lot of my experiences
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我的很多试验
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resemble mirrors in some way.
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都是在不同程度的模拟镜子。
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Because this is, in some sense, the first way,
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因为从某种程度来说,镜子是人们
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that people discover their own potential as actors,
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以演员的方式发现自我的第一次经历,
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and discover their own agency.
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当然也发现了自己的媒介。
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By saying "Who is that person in the mirror? Oh it's actually me."
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也就是当时那一句 “镜子中的人是谁?哦那是我自己啊。”
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And so, to give an example,
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所以这里有一个例子,
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this is a project from last year,
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这是我去年的一个作品。
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which is called the Interstitial Fragment Processor.
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它叫做 “间隙碎片处理器”。
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And it allows people to explore the negative shapes that they create
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它使人们可以发现他们
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when they're just going about their everyday business.
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做日常动作时候被忽略的阴性图形。
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So as people make shapes with their hands or their heads
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这样人们可以用他们的手和头创作图形,
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and so forth, or with each other,
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也可以更进一步的,和别人一起完成。
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these shapes literally produce sounds and drop out of thin air --
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这些图形还会发声,并且从轻薄的空气中坠落。
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basically taking what's often this, kind of, unseen space,
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基本上就是把这些不被看到的
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or this undetected space, and making it something real,
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被忽视的空间,变成真实的存在,
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that people then can appreciate and become creative with.
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这样人们就可以欣赏,也可以发挥创意。
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So again, people discover their creative agency in this way.
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人们以这种方式, 发现了自己充满创意的媒介。
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And their own personalities come out
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与此同时他们自己的个性也呈现了出来
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in totally unique ways.
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以这种别致的方式。
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So in addition to using full-body input,
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除了以整个身体做为输入之外呢,
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something that I've explored now, for a while,
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我还创作了这个
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has been the use of the voice,
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以声音为媒介的作品。
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which is an immensely expressive system for us, vocalizing.
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它是一个强大的表达系统,即发声系统。
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Song is one of our oldest ways
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歌唱是我们最古老的
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of making ourselves heard and understood.
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让我们被听到被理解的方式。
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And I came across this fantastic research by Wolfgang Köhler,
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我有幸知道了苛勒 (Wolfgang Kohler) 做过的这个神奇研究,
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the so-called father of gestalt psychology, from 1927,
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就是被称为完形心理学之父的苛勒,1927年,
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who submitted to an audience like yourselves
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他向他的观众,就像在座各位这样的观众,
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the following two shapes.
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展示了以下两个图形。
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And he said one of them is called Maluma.
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然后他说其中的一个叫做吗魯吗,
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And one of them is called Taketa. Which is which?
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另一个叫做嗒咔嗒。哪个是哪个?
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Anyone want to hazard a guess?
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有没有人想猜一下的?
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Maluma is on top. Yeah. So.
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吗魯吗是上边的那个。是的,就像你猜的那样。
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As he says here, most people answer without any hesitation.
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据他所说,绝大多数人会毫不犹豫的回答出来。
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So what we're really seeing here is a phenomenon
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所以我们现在看到的就是一个现象,
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called phonaesthesia,
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叫做 “声觉” (声音的通感现象)。
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which is a kind of synesthesia that all of you have.
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它是我们每个人都有的一种通感。
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And so, whereas Dr. Oliver Sacks has talked about
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就像奥利弗•萨克斯 (Oliver Sacks, 英国脑神经学家) 曾说的,
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how perhaps one person in a million
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大概一百万人中的一个
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actually has true synesthesia,
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是真的拥有通感的,
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where they hear colors or taste shapes, and things like this,
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也就是他们可以听到颜色或者品尝到形状,诸如此类。
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phonaesthesia is something we can all experience to some extent.
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声觉是我们都可以一定程度上体验到的。
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It's about mappings between different perceptual domains,
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它是指联通不同感知领域的对应。
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like hardness, sharpness, brightness and darkness,
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就好像坚固,锋利,明亮和黑暗,
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and the phonemes that we're able to speak with.
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以及我们用以发声的音素。
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So 70 years on, there's been some research where
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于是70年来,通过一些研究,
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cognitive psychologists have actually sussed out
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认知心理学家们已经弄清楚了
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the extent to which, you know,
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这个现象,如你所知的,
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L, M and B are more associated with shapes that look like this,
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L, M, B 与这种形状的图形更贴近,
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and P, T and K are perhaps more associated with shapes like this.
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而 P, T, K 则更贴近这个形状。
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And here we suddenly begin to have a mapping between curvature
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所以如此,我们突然就开始描绘这个
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that we can exploit numerically,
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我們可以通过数学计算曲率,
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a relative mapping between curvature and shape.
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找出曲率和形状的对应关系。
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So it occurred to me, what happens if we could run these backwards?
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我就想,如果我们反过来操作又会怎样呢?
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And thus was born the project called Remark,
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于是就诞生了这个叫做 “重塑" (Remark) 的作品。
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which is a collaboration with Zachary Lieberman
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它是与札却立·里伯曼 (Zachary Lieberman)
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and the Ars Electronica Futurelab.
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以及 Ars Electronica 未来实验室共同完成的。
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And this is an interactive installation which presents
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这是一个互动的装置艺术,它呈现了
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the fiction that speech casts visible shadows.
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说话本身演出可视影子的虚幻场景。
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So the idea is you step into a kind of a magic light.
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大体上说, 就是你走进这种魔术一样的光晕中,
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And as you do, you see the shadows of your own speech.
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同时你便看到你自己说的话变成影子,
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And they sort of fly away, out of your head.
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这些影子似乎飞散了,从你脑袋中飞走了。
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If a computer speech recognition system
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如果电脑的语音识别系统
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is able to recognize what you're saying, then it spells it out.
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识别出了你说的话,它就把它拼写出来,
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And if it isn't then it produces a shape which is very phonaesthetically
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而相反的, 它将创造一个图形,一个声觉意义上
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tightly coupled to the sounds you made.
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极其贴近你发声的一个图形。
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So let's bring up a video of that.
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我们一起来看一下这个视频。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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Thanks. So. And this project here,
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谢谢。下面还有一个作品,
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I was working with the great abstract vocalist, Jaap Blonk.
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与我一起工作的是著名的声音实验诗人雅普·布朗克 (Jaap Blonk)
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And he is a world expert in performing "The Ursonate,"
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他是世界有名的 “声音诗歌" (Ursonate) 专家,
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which is a half-an-hour nonsense poem
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这是一首半小时的无意义诗歌
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by Kurt Schwitters, written in the 1920s,
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由柯特·舒维特 (Kurt Schwitters) 创作于1920年代。
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which is half an hour of very highly patterned nonsense.
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这首诗是长达半小时的高度程式化的无意义。
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And it's almost impossible to perform.
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同时也非常难于表演。
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But Jaap is one of the world experts in performing it.
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幸运的是雅普就是可以表演它的全球专家之一。
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And in this project we've developed
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在这个作品里我们创建了
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a form of intelligent real-time subtitles.
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一种智能的实时字幕形式。
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So these are our live subtitles,
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这些就是我们的实时现场字幕,
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that are being produced by a computer that knows the text of "The Ursonate" --
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它的制作是依靠一台电脑,电脑知道 “声音诗歌” 的文本,
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fortunately Jaap does too, very well --
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幸好雅普也知道,不容易啊。
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and it is delivering that text at the same time as Jaap is.
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电脑在雅普表演的同时传输文本。
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So all the text you're going to see
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所以所有你将要看到的文本字幕
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is real-time generated by the computer,
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都是由一台电脑实时产生的,
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visualizing what he's doing with his voice.
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它把雅普的声音转换为可视的了。
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Here you can see the set-up where there is a screen with the subtitles behind him.
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你可以看到这设置着一个背后有字幕的屏幕。
08:34
Okay. So ...
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好了。那么…
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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The full videos are online if you are interested.
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完整版视频在网上,如果你感兴趣的话。
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I got a split reaction to that during the live performance,
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在现场表演这个作品时我得到了不尽相同的反应。
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because there is some people who understand
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因为有些人明白
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live subtitles are a kind of an oxymoron,
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实时字幕在某种程度上是自相矛盾的。
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because usually there is someone making them afterwards.
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因为字幕通常是有专人事后制作的。
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And then a bunch of people who were like, "What's the big deal?
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可还是有一些人会说 “有什么大不了的?
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I see subtitles all the time on television."
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我在电视上总是看到字幕啊。”
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You know? They don't imagine the person in the booth, typing it all.
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你懂我意思么?他们根本不去想还会有个人躲在格子间里拼命打字。
09:00
So in addition to the full body, and in addition to the voice,
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除了以上两种用身体和人声做艺术的形式之外,
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another thing that I've been really interested in,
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还有一件我非常感兴趣的事,
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most recently, is the use of the eyes,
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尤其是最近这段时间,我喜欢用眼睛,
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or the gaze, in terms of how people relate to each other.
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或者说注视,这种人们用以相互联系的奇妙形式。
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It's a really profound amount of nonverbal information
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事实是相当数量含义隽永的不可视信息
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that's communicated with the eyes.
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都是通过眼睛来交流的。
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And it's one of the most interesting technical challenges
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这是一项非常有趣的技术挑战,
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that's very currently active in the computer sciences:
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在当今的电脑科学领域也相当活跃。
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being able to have a camera that can understand,
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新的科技之下诞生了这样一种摄像头,它可以
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from a fairly big distance away,
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即使从很远的距离也可以,
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how these little tiny balls are actually pointing in one way or another
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辨明我们这两个小小的眼球是如何一会看向这边一会看向那边
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to reveal what you're interested in,
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就反映出了你的兴致所在,
09:28
and where your attention is directed.
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以及你注意力又在哪里。
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So there is a lot of emotional communication that happens there.
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这中间很多感情层面的交流也随之发生了。
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And so I've been beginning, with a variety of different projects,
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于是我便着手于一系列的作品,
09:37
to understand how people can relate to machines with their eyes.
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它们都是探讨人类是如何通过自己的眼睛与机器交流的。
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And basically to ask the questions:
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作品的概念基本上是提出这样的问题,
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What if art was aware that we were looking at it?
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如果艺术品本身可以意识到我们在看它,又会怎样?
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How could it respond, in a way,
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它会如何回应,或者说,
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to acknowledge or subvert the fact that we're looking at it?
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它会怎样认知或者颠覆我们观赏者的注视这一事实?
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And what could it do if it could look back at us?
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如果它可以也朝我们看回来,与我们对视,又会怎样?
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And so those are the questions that are happening in the next projects.
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这些问题基本上就是以下几个作品所要探讨的。
09:58
In the first one which I'm going to show you, called Eyecode,
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第一个我将要展示给大家的,叫做 “眼睛密码" (Eyecode),
10:01
it's a piece of interactive software
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它是一个人机互动的软件,
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in which, if we read this little circle,
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它所能做的,就像这圈话说的,
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"the trace left by the looking of the previous observer
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前一个观察者注视留下的印记
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looks at the trace left by the looking of previous observer."
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正在注视前一个观察者注视留下的印记。
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The idea is that it's an image wholly constructed
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简单来说它是一个完全由
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from its own history of being viewed
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它被装置中的不同观众观看
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by different people in an installation.
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的自身历史所建构的影像。
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So let me just switch over so we can do the live demo.
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下面让我切换过去,现场的做一个小样测试。
10:22
So let's run this and see if it works.
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我们一起来试试看。
10:26
Okay. Ah, there is lots of nice bright video.
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好了。嗯,这有很多不错的视频。
10:29
There is just a little test screen that shows that it's working.
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这只是一个测试页,试看看它工作的怎么样。
10:31
And what I'm just going to do is -- I'm going to hide that.
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我接下来要把它收起来,
10:33
And you can see here that what it's doing
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这样你们就可以看到它的工作了
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is it's recording my eyes every time I blink.
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它在我每次眨眼的时候都会收录我的眼睛。
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Hello? And I can ... hello ... okay.
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你好?我想我 … 你好 … 好了。
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And no matter where I am, what's really going on here
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不管我在哪儿,它真正在做的
10:50
is that it's an eye-tracking system that tries to locate my eyes.
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就是通过一个眼球跟踪系统来定位我的眼睛。
10:53
And if I get really far away I'm blurry.
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如果我很远呢, 我就变得很模糊。
10:55
You know, you're going to have these kind of blurry spots like this
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你知道, 你将得到的就是这种模糊的小点点,
10:57
that maybe only resemble eyes in a very very abstract way.
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超级抽象的来看, 还是类似眼睛的。
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But if I come up really close and stare directly at the camera
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但是当我凑近电脑上的摄像头并且直视它时
11:03
on this laptop then you'll see these nice crisp eyes.
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你将看到这样又好看又清晰的眼睛。
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You can think of it as a way of, sort of, typing, with your eyes.
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你可以这么认为,就好像你在用你的眼睛打字输入一样。
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And what you're typing are recordings of your eyes
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只是你输入的是你看别人眼睛时
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as you're looking at other peoples' eyes.
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你自己眼睛留下的记录。
11:13
So each person is looking at the looking
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所以每个人看到的就是
11:16
of everyone else before them.
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在他之前的所有人的观看。
11:18
And this exists in larger installations
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事实上, 这个作品设置在更大型的装置中,
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where there are thousands and thousands of eyes
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那里有成千上万的眼睛
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that people could be staring at,
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可供人们观看
11:24
as you see who's looking at the people looking
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这样你就可以看到之前在看的人在看
11:26
at the people looking before them.
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之前在看的人在看。
11:28
So I'll just add a couple more. Blink. Blink.
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我要在增加一些眼睛。眨眼。眨眼。
11:31
And you can see, just once again, how it's sort of finding my eyes
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你可以看到,它又一次的找到了我的眼睛
11:34
and doing its best to estimate when it's blinking.
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并且尽可能的通过眨眼来评估。
11:37
Alright. Let's leave that.
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好了。就这样吧。
11:39
So that's this kind of recursive observation system.
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总之, 这就是一个无穷递进的观察系统。
11:42
(Applause)
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(掌声)
11:44
Thank you.
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谢谢。
11:46
The last couple pieces I'm going to show
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最后我将要展示的这一系列作品
11:48
are basically in the new realm of robotics -- for me, new for me.
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在机器人技术领域基本上也都是新的,至少对我来说是新的。
11:50
It's called Opto-Isolator.
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它叫做 “光绝缘体" (Opto-lsolator)。
11:52
And I'm going to show a video of the older version of it,
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我将展示的是这个作品之前一个老版本的视频。
11:55
which is just a minute long. Okay.
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视频只有一分钟。
12:06
In this case, the Opto-Isolator is blinking
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在这个作品中,光绝缘体的形式是
12:08
in response to one's own blinks.
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在有人眨眼的时候也给一个眨眼的动作。
12:10
So it blinks one second after you do.
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它是在你眨眼一秒钟之后眨眼的。
12:13
This is a device which is intended to reduce
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这个装置的用意是
12:16
the phenomenon of gaze down to the simplest possible materials.
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用最简单的材料呈現注视的现象。
12:19
Just one eye,
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仅仅是一个眼睛,
12:21
looking at you, and eliminating everything else about a face,
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这么看着你,去掉脸上其他的东西。
12:23
but just to consider gaze in an isolated way
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让我们以一种独立的方式来思考注视,
12:26
as a kind of, as an element.
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好像它是,一个元素。
12:29
And at the same time, it attempts to engage in what you might call
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与此同时,它在试图探讨也许你更习惯称作
12:32
familiar psycho-social gaze behaviors.
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社会心理学的注视行为。
12:34
Like looking away if you look at it too long
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例如当你注视良久便忍不住看向别处
12:36
because it gets shy,
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因为会变得害羞。
12:38
or things like that.
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或诸如此类。
12:41
Okay. So the last project I'm going to show
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那么,最后一个我将展示的
12:44
is this new one called Snout.
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是一个叫做 “长鼻子" (Snout) 的新作品。
12:47
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
12:49
It's an eight-foot snout,
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它是一个八呎长的长鼻子,
12:51
with a googly eye.
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上面还有一只惊愕的大眼睛。
12:53
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
12:54
And inside it's got an 800-pound robot arm
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其实它里边有一个800磅重的机器人手臂,
12:57
that I borrowed,
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我借来的,
12:59
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
13:00
from a friend.
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从一个朋友那儿借的。
13:02
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
13:03
It helps to have good friends.
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有几个好朋友多幸福。
13:05
I'm at Carnegie Mellon; we've got a great Robotics Institute there.
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这是在卡内基梅隆大学。我们在那有一个很棒的机器人研究中心。
13:08
I'd like to show you thing called Snout, which is --
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我将为大家展示这个叫做长鼻子的作品。
13:10
The idea behind this project is to
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这个作品的意思是
13:12
make a robot that appears as if it's continually surprised to see you.
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制造一个一看到你就持续表现惊奇的机器人。
13:16
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
13:20
The idea is that basically --
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这个基本上是说
13:22
if it's constantly like "Huh? ... Huh?"
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它持续表现的像在说“啊?… 啊?”
13:24
That's why its other name is Doubletaker, Taker of Doubles.
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所以它还有一个名字叫做万事成双,做什么都要两次。
13:28
It's always kind of doing a double take: "What?"
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它总是好像在连续惊愕两次的说 “怎么会?”
13:30
And the idea is basically, can it look at you
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大意就是说,它能不能就是看着你
13:32
and make you feel as if like,
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然后让你觉得
13:34
"What? Is it my shoes?"
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“怎么了? 是我鞋子出了问题么?”
13:36
"Got something on my hair?" Here we go. Alright.
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“还是我头发沾上什么东西了?” 嗯,就是这个。
14:10
Checking him out ...
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我们一起来看一下。
14:20
For you nerds, here's a little behind-the-scenes.
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对科技狂热者,这有一些幕后揭秘。
14:22
It's got a computer vision system,
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它有一个电脑的视觉系统。
14:24
and it tries to look at the people who are moving around the most.
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并且它在尽可能的朝那个活动最多的人盯着看。
14:39
Those are its targets.
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那几个就是它的目标。
14:42
Up there is the skeleton,
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那上边就是骨骼。
14:44
which is actually what it's trying to do.
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这就是它在试图去做的。
14:54
It's really about trying to create a novel body language for a new creature.
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这个作品是在试图为一个新生物来创造一种戏剧化的身体语言。
14:57
Hollywood does this all the time, of course.
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当然,好莱坞经常这么干。
14:59
But also have the body language communicate something
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更主要的是这种身体语言可以真正的
15:01
to the person who is looking at it.
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与那个看它的人沟通交流。
15:03
This language is communicating that it is surprised to see you,
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这种身体语言传递的信息就是,它看到你很惊奇,
15:05
and it's interested in looking at you.
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同时它对观察你也很有兴趣。
15:08
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
15:10
(Applause)
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(掌声)
15:19
Thank you very much. That's all I've got for today.
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非常感谢大家。这些就是我今天展示的全部内容。
15:21
And I'm really happy to be here. Thank you so much.
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很高兴今天可以来到这里。谢谢。
15:24
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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