Swizz Beatz: How to support and celebrate living artists | TED

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ²ˆμ—­: Nahee Jeong κ²€ν† : Jihyeon J. Kim
00:13
Swizz Beatz: I got it.
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μŠ€μœ„μ¦ˆ λΉ„μΈ (SB): μ•Œκ² μ–΄μš”.
00:14
So are you guys going to mute when I talk
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μ œκ°€ μ–˜κΈ° ν•  λ•Œ 쑰용히 ν•΄μ£Όμ‹€ κ±΄κ°€μš”?
00:16
so nothing interrupts it?
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λ°©ν•΄ μ•ˆ λ˜κ²Œμš”?
00:18
Voice: Uhh, yes.
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λͺ©μ†Œλ¦¬ : μ–΄, λ„€.
00:19
SB: Because once I'm in the flow, I like to stay in the flow.
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SB: 흐름이 λŠμ–΄μ§€λŠ” 건 μ‹«μ–΄μ„œ 말이죠.
00:22
Having some type of support
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λ¬΄μ–Έκ°ˆ μ°½μ‘°ν•  λ•Œ μ’…λ₯˜μ— 상관없이
00:24
is very necessary when you are creative.
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도움은 μ ˆλŒ€μ μœΌλ‘œ ν•„μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:27
You know, there has to be something that's fueling that creativity,
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μ•„μ‹œλ‹€μ‹œν”Ό, 창의λ ₯을 λ°œνœ˜μ‹œν‚¬ 수 μžˆλŠ” μ—°λ£Œκ°€ μžˆμ–΄μ•Ό ν•˜μ£ .
00:31
that's fueling that fire that you have inside.
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그게 λ‚΄λ©΄μ˜ 무언가에 λΆˆμ„ 지피고 μ—°λ£Œλ₯Ό λΆ€μ–΄μ£Όμ£ .
00:34
My love for music and creativity starts way back, way back.
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μŒμ•…κ³Ό 창의λ ₯에 λŒ€ν•œ 제 μ‚¬λž‘μ€ μ•„μ£Ό 였래 였래 μ „ μ‹œμž‘λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:38
Back in the South Bronx where I grew up,
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μ œκ°€ μžλž€ μ‚¬μš°μŠ€ 브둱크슀,
00:41
building 700, apartment 2E.
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μ•„νŒŒνŠΈ 700동, 2E호.
00:43
I would go outside and all I would hear is music.
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밖에 λ‚˜κ°€μ„œ μ œκ°€ 듀을 수 있던 건 μŒμ•… λΏμ΄μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
00:47
You go around to the back park, the DJs are playing,
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곡원 λ’€λ‘œ κ°€λ©΄, μŒμ•…μ„ 튼 λ””μ œμ΄λ“€κ³Ό
00:50
there's a basketball game going on,
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진행 쀑인 농ꡬ κ²½κΈ°λ₯Ό λ³Ό 수 μžˆμ—ˆμ£ 
00:51
but then you would look at the handball court,
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그런데 ν•Έλ“œλ³Όμž₯을 보면,
00:54
and that handball court would have an amazing graffiti mural,
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정말 λ†€λΌμš΄ κ·Έλž˜ν”Όν‹° λ²½ν™”κ°€ μžˆμ—ˆμ–΄μš”
00:57
I don't know if it's from Keith Haring or Fab 5 Freddy.
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ν‚€μŠ€ 해링인지, 팹 파이브 ν”„λ ˆλ””μΈμ§„ λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² μ§€λ§Œ
01:00
I was instantly attracted to the creative.
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μ €λŠ” κ·Έ μ°½μ˜μ„±μ— κ³§λ°”λ‘œ 마음이 λŒλ Έμ–΄μš”.
01:03
Music has been my therapy since day one.
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κ·Έλ•ŒλΆ€ν„° μŒμ•…μ€ μ €μ—κ²Œ μΉ˜μœ μ˜€μ–΄μš”.
01:07
Anytime I get stressed out,
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μ €λŠ” 슀트레슀λ₯Ό 받을 λ•Œλ§ˆλ‹€
01:09
I go to the arts, I go to creativity, I go to music.
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μ˜ˆμˆ μ„ μ°Ύκ³ , μŒμ•…μ„ μ°Ύμ•˜κ³ , 무언가 μ°½μ‘°ν•˜λ € ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
01:12
Music makes people feel hugged, people feel loved.
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μŒμ•…μ€ μ•ˆκΈ°λŠ” 기뢄을 μ£Όμ£ , μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ μ‚¬λž‘λ°›λŠ”λ‹€κ³  느끼게 λ˜κ³ μš”.
01:16
And then I remember one of my uncles saying,
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μ‚Όμ΄Œμ΄ ν•΄μ€€ 말이 κΈ°μ–΅λ‚˜λŠ”λ°,
01:19
"You should get into producing," I'm like, "What's producing?"
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"ν”„λ‘œλ“€μ‹±μ„ μ‹œμž‘ν•΄λ΄"라고 ν•˜λ”κ΅°μš”. μ œκ°€ λ¬Όμ—ˆμ£  "ν”„λ‘œλ“€μ‹±μ΄ 뭐야?"
μ•„μ‹œλ‹€μ‹œν”Ό, 이건 κ°€μ‘± μ‚¬μ—…μœΌλ‘œ μ‹œμž‘λ˜μ—ˆλŠ”λ°
01:22
You know, it started as a family-owned business,
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저희 가쑱이 λŸ¬ν”„ λΌμ΄λ”μŠ€λ₯Ό λ§Œλ“€μ—ˆκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄μ£ .
01:24
because Ruff Ryders was created by my family.
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01:26
It gave you DMX, it gave you Eve,
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('Scenario 2000'의 가사) DMX,이브λ₯Ό 쀬지,
01:28
it gave you Drag-On, it gave you The LOX.
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('Scenario 2000'의 가사) λ“œλž™-μ˜¨μ„ 쀬지, λ‘μŠ€λ„.
01:30
I've gotten every accolade in music that one can get.
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μ €λŠ” 받을 수 μžˆλŠ” μ΅œλŒ€ν•œμ˜ 포상을 μŒμ•…μ—μ„œ μ–»μ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
01:34
It just came to the point where it's like, "You know what?
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κ·Έ ν›„ 상황은 λ‹€μ‹œ μ›μ μœΌλ‘œ λŒμ•„κ°”μ–΄μš” "κ·Έκ±° μ•„μ„Έμš”?
01:37
I'm no longer going to have fun with this unless I'm able to give back."
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받은 κ±Έ 되돌렀 쀄 수 μ—†λ‹€λ©΄ 더 이상 재미 λ³Ό 생각은 μ—†μ–΄μš”."
01:42
You know, The Dean Collection started for me to create a museum for my family
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μ•„μ‹œλ‹€μ‹œν”Ό, μ €λ₯Ό μœ„ν•΄μ„œ λ”˜ μ»¬λ ‰μ…˜μ΄ μ „μ‹œλ˜κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμ£ 
μ œκ°€ 가문을 μœ„ν•œ λ―Έμˆ κ΄€μ„ κ°–κ³  μ‹Άμ–΄ν–ˆμ–΄μš”
01:46
and our name.
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01:48
Something that my kids would have to be responsible
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μ΄λŠ” 제 아이듀이 μ±…μž„μ„ κ°–κ³ 
01:50
to pass through generations.
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λŒ€λŒ€λ‘œ μ „ν•΄μ§ˆ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:52
I said, "Wait a minute,
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μ œκ°€ λ§ν–ˆλ“―, "μž μ‹œλ§Œμš”,
01:54
The Dean Collection is not just for The Dean Collection,
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λ”˜ μ»¬λ ‰μ…˜μ€ κ·Έμ € μ»¬λ ‰μ…˜μ„ μœ„ν•¨μ΄ μ•„λ‹ˆμ—μš”.
01:56
The Dean Collection is for everyone."
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λ”˜ μ»¬λ ‰μ…˜μ€ λͺ¨λ‘λ₯Ό μœ„ν•œ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€."
01:58
There are some galleries now and places you walk in,
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μš”μ¦˜ λ“€μ–΄κ°€μ„œ 감상할 수 μžˆλŠ” κ°€λŸ¬λ¦¬λ“€λ„ μ—¬λŸ¬ 개 μžˆμ§€λ§Œ,
02:01
if you don't have 50,000, there's nothing to talk about.
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5만 λ‹¬λŸ¬κ°€ μ—†λ‹€λ©΄ 끼지도 λͺ»ν•˜μ£ .
02:04
And I felt that a lot of people were using that as an excuse
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μ €λŠ” λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 이걸 예술과 λ©€μ–΄μ§€λ €λŠ”
ν•‘κ³„λ‘œ μ‚Όκ³ μžˆλ‹€κ³  λŠκ»΄μ Έμš”.
02:08
to exit art.
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02:09
They feel that art is only for rich people.
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그듀은 예술이 λΆ€μžλ§Œμ„ μœ„ν•œ 것이라고 느끼죠
02:12
Whoa.
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였우.
02:13
We've got to stop this, we've got to fix this.
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우린 이걸 λ©ˆμΆ”κ³  고쳐야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:15
And that's what made me and my wife say,
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이 λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 저와 제 μ•„λ‚΄λŠ” μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ λ§ν–ˆμ£ 
02:17
you know, we have to create an entry point to the younger generation
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μ•„μ‹œλ‹€μ‹œν”Ό, μ Šμ€ μ„ΈλŒ€μ˜ 예술 μ§„μž…μ μ„ λ§Œλ“€μ–΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€
02:21
that didn't understand the art world,
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특히 예술 세계λ₯Ό μ΄ν•΄ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•˜κ³ 
02:23
didn't have their seat at the table,
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μ˜ˆμˆ μ„ μ ‘ν•  κ²°μ •κΆŒλ„ μ—†λŠ” μ Šμ€ μ„ΈλŒ€λ₯Ό μœ„ν•΄μ„œμš”
02:24
and then we started "No Commissions."
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그러고 λ‚˜μ„œ "μ€‘κ°œ 수수료 무료"λ₯Ό μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:27
It's a big event,
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정말 큰 ν–‰μ‚¬μ˜€κ³ ,
02:28
you got 30-something-thousand RSVPs a night.
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μ•½ 3만 λͺ… μ •λ„μ˜ μ΄ˆλŒ€μ— μ‘ν•œ μ†λ‹˜λ“€μ΄ μ°Ύμ•„ μ£Όμ…¨μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:31
The drinks are free, the food is free,
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μŒλ£Œλ„ 곡짜, μŒμ‹λ„ 곡짜,
02:33
the concert's free.
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μ½˜μ„œνŠΈλ„ 곡짜.
02:35
The education is free,
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κ΅μœ‘λ„ 무상,
02:37
and I feel that education should be free.
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μ €λŠ” ꡐ윑이 무상이어야 ν•œλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•΄μš”.
02:40
We went to Shanghai, we went to London,
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μ €ν¬λŠ” μƒν•˜μ΄μ™€ λŸ°λ˜μ— κ°€λ΄€κ³ 
02:43
we went to Berlin,
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λ² λ₯Όλ¦°λ„ κ°€λ΄€μ£ .
02:45
we did it right in my backyard in the South Bronx.
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λ¬Όλ‘  μ‚¬μš°μŠ€ 브둱크슀 집 λ’·λ§ˆλ‹Ήμ—μ„œμš”.
02:48
You can come in to "No Commissions"
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λˆ„κ΅¬λ‚˜ μ€‘κ°œ 수수료 λ‚Ό ν•„μš” 없이 λ“€μ–΄μ™€μ„œ
02:49
and get something for a couple of bucks,
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λͺ‡ λ‹¬λŸ¬ λ˜λŠ” λͺ‡ μ‹­λ§Œλ‹¬λŸ¬λ₯Ό λ‚΄κ³  μ˜ˆμˆ μž‘ν’ˆμ„ ꡬ맀할 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:52
or a couple hundred thousand.
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02:55
There's a tier for every person that has love for art.
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μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ λͺ¨λ‘ λ―Έμˆ μ„ ν–₯ν•œ 각각 λ‹€λ₯Έ μ •λ„μ˜ λ§ˆμŒμ„ κ°–κ³  있죠.
02:58
And what we're doing is something totally different from a gallery.
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그리고 저희가 ν•˜λŠ” 것은 보톡 κ°€λŸ¬λ¦¬μ—μ„œ ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒκ³ΌλŠ”
μ™„μ „νžˆ λ‹€λ¦…λ‹ˆλ‹€
03:01
The artists keep 100 percent of the sales.
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μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€λ“€μ΄ 이윀의 전체λ₯Ό κ°€μ Έκ°€μ£ .
03:05
But what about after "No Commissions,"
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κ·Έλ ‡λ‹€λ©΄ "μ€‘κ°œ 수수료 없이" μ‹œμž‘ν•œ ν›„
03:06
how can you sustain, how can you move forward
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μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λ―Έμˆ κ΄€μ„ μœ μ§€ν•˜κ³  λ°œμ „ μ‹œν‚¬ 수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”?
03:10
without having to be trapped to sell your soul?
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돈 λ¬Έμ œμ— 얽맀여 λ‚˜μœκ³³μ— 손을 λŒ€μ§€ μ•Šκ³  말이죠
03:13
I was a part of the sale with my brother Sean "Diddy" Combs,
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μ €λŠ” 제 ν˜•μΈ μ…˜ P.λ””λ”” μ½€μŠ€μ™€ νŒλ§€μ— μΌμ‘°ν•˜μ—¬
03:16
the 21-million-dollar purchase,
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2천 100만 λ‹¬λŸ¬ μ •λ„μ˜ μˆ˜μ΅μ„ λ§Œλ“€μ—ˆλŠ”λ°,
03:18
which made Kerry James Marshall
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κ·Έ μˆ˜μ΅μ€ 케리 μ œμž„μŠ€ λ§ˆμ…œμ„
03:20
the highest-selling African American living artist to today.
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μ˜€λŠ˜λ‚  μ‚΄μ•„μžˆλŠ” κ°€μž₯ 잘 νŒ”λ¦¬λŠ” 아프리카계 미ꡭ인 μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€λ‘œ λ§Œλ“€μ—ˆμ£ .
03:25
I'm like, "Man, you just broke the record,"
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μ €λŠ” μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ λ§ν–ˆμ–΄μš”, 'μ™€μš°, μ§€κΈˆ 신기둝을 μ„Έμš°μ…¨λ„€μš”.'
03:27
and the artist was like,
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그리고 κ·Έ μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€κ»˜μ„  μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ λŒ€λ‹΅ν•˜μ…¨μ£ .
03:28
"Yeah, I don't know whether to be happy or to be sad."
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"κ·Έλ ‡λ„€μš”, 웃어야 ν•  지 μšΈμ–΄μ•Ό ν•  지 λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² λ„€μš”."
03:31
He first sold that work, it was under 100,000.
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κ·Έκ°€ 처음 μž‘ν’ˆμ„ νŒ”μ•˜μ„ λ•Œ 가격은 10만 λ‹¬λŸ¬ μ΄ν•˜μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:35
So imagine a work that you made for under 100,000
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ λ§Œλ“  μž‘ν’ˆμ΄ μ „μ—” 10만 λ‹¬λŸ¬ μ΄ν•˜μ˜€λŠ”λ°
03:39
is now being sold for 21 million,
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μ§€κΈˆμ€ 2천 100만 λ‹¬λŸ¬κ°€ λ˜μ–΄ 있고
03:42
and you had to sit home and watch this.
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집에 μ•‰μ•„μ„œ 이 상황을 κ·Έμ € κ°μƒν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  상상해 λ³΄μ„Έμš”.
03:45
And you couldn't even participate five percent.
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심지어 2천 100만 λ‹¬λŸ¬μ˜ 5%λ§ŒνΌλ„ κΈ°μ—¬ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν–ˆλŠ”데 말이죠
03:48
When you look at it,
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μˆ˜μ΅μ„ 두고 봀을 λ•Œ
03:50
I'm a producer, I'm a songwriter,
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μ €λŠ” ν”„λ‘œλ“€μ„œμ΄μž μž‘κ³‘κ°€μ΄λ©°
03:53
every time it's played on the radio,
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λΌλ””μ˜€μ—μ„œ 맀번 제 μ €μž‘λ¬Όμ΄ μž¬μƒλ  λ•Œλ§ˆλ‹€
03:55
I get paid.
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μ €λŠ” 그에 λŒ€ν•œ 보수λ₯Ό λ°›μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
03:56
Every time it's played in a movie,
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μ˜ν™”μ— 제 μ €μž‘λ¬Όμ΄ μž¬μƒλ  λ•Œλ„ λ§ˆμ°¬κ°€μ§€λ‘œ
03:59
I get paid.
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μ €λŠ” 그에 λŒ€ν•œ λΉ„μš©μ„ λ°›μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:01
Every time it plays, period,
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맀번 μž¬μƒλ  λ•Œλ§ˆλ‹€ λΆ„κΈ°λ³„λ‘œ
04:05
I get paid.
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μ €λŠ” 보수λ₯Ό λ°›μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:07
Visual artists, they only get paid once.
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μ‹œκ° μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€, 그듀은 였직 ν•œλ²ˆλ§Œ 보수λ₯Ό λ°›μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:10
How, when paintings are sold and traded multiple times?
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κ·Έλ ‡λ‹€λ©΄, μž‘ν’ˆμ΄ μ—¬λŸ¬λ²ˆ 거래되고 νŒ”λ¦°λ‹€λ©΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λ κΉŒμš”?
04:14
And that's that artist's lifetime work,
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이 상황이 μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€ 생전에 μ§„ν–‰λœλ‹€λ©΄
04:16
that other people are making 10, 15,
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λ‹€λ₯Έ μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€λ“€μ΄ 만, 만 5천 λ‹¬λŸ¬λ₯Ό 받을 λ•Œ,
04:19
sometimes 100 times more than the artist that created it.
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이런 μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€λ“€μ€ λ•Œλ•Œλ‘œ 100λ°° 더 λ§Žμ€ 보수λ₯Ό λ°›μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:24
So I created something called the Dean's Choice,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” 'λ”˜ 초이슀'라고 λΆˆλ¦¬λŠ” κ±Έ λ§Œλ“€μ—ˆλŠ”λ°,
04:27
where if you're a seller,
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μ°Έμ—¬ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ νŒλ§€μžμ΄λ“ 
04:30
or a collector,
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μ•„λ‹ˆλ©΄ κ΅¬λ§€μžμ΄λ“ 
04:32
and you bring in your work into, let's say, Sotheby's,
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λ‘˜ 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜λ₯Ό ν•˜λŸ¬ λ“€μ–΄μ˜€λ©΄ μ†Œλ”λΉ„μ— μ™”λ‹€κ³  μΉ©μ‹œλ‹€
04:35
there's a paper that's there that says, "Hey, guys, you know,
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쒅이λ₯Ό λ³Ό 수 μžˆλŠ”λ°, κ·Έ 쒅이엔 "μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„, κ·Έκ±° μ•„μ‹œλ‚˜μš”?
04:38
this artist is still living.
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이 μž‘ν’ˆμ„ λ§Œλ“  μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€λŠ” 아직 μ‚΄μ•„κ³„μ‹ λ‹΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:40
You've made 300 percent on your investment
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그리고 방금 κ·ΈλΆ„μ˜ μ˜ˆμˆ μž‘ν’ˆμ— νˆ¬μžν•˜μ…”μ„œ 300% μ΄μœ€μ„ μ–»μœΌμ…¨μ–΄μš”
04:44
by working with this artist.
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μ˜ˆμˆ μž‘ν’ˆ 거래둜 말이죠.
04:46
You can choose to give the artist whatever you want of the sale."
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무엇이든 μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€λ“€μ—κ²Œ μ œμ•ˆν•˜κ³  거래 ν•΄λ³΄μ„Έμš”"라고 μ”Œμ—¬μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
04:50
I think that even if five people did it,
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제 생각엔 아무리 λ‹€μ„― λͺ…이 ν–ˆλ‹€κ³  할지언정
04:52
it'll start to change everything in the arts.
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이 κ±°λž˜λŠ” μ˜ˆμˆ κ³„ λͺ¨λ“  면에 λ³€ν™”λ₯Ό κ°€μ Έμ˜¬ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€
04:55
And this is happening in Europe already.
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μœ λŸ½μ—μ„  이미 널리 μ „νŒŒλ˜μ–΄ μžˆκΈ°λ„ ν•˜κ³ μš”.
04:57
It happens in the music industry,
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μ΄λŠ” μŒμ•… μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ μ‹œμž‘λλŠ”λ°
04:58
it's called publishing.
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'μ €μž‘κΆŒ'이라고 λΆ€λ¦…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:00
And artists are able to survive,
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이λ₯Ό 톡해 μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€λ“€μ€ μƒκ³„μœ μ§€κ°€ κ°€λŠ₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:02
musicians are able to survive,
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μŒμ•…κ°€λ“€ λ˜ν•œ μƒκ³„μœ μ§€κ°€ κ°€λŠ₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:04
years after years,
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맀년
05:05
off of the residual income of their publishing.
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μ €μž‘κΆŒκ³Ό μΆœνŒκΆŒμ—μ„œ λ‚˜μ˜¨ μ‹€μˆ˜μž…μ„ λ°›μ•„μ„œ 말이죠.
05:08
So how can we take something that brings creatives together,
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κ·Έλ ‡λ‹€λ©΄ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ 창의적인 ν™œλ™μ„ ν•¨κ»˜ μ΄λŒμ–΄λ‚΄κ³ 
05:14
and celebrate each other?
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μ„œλ‘œ μΆ•ν•˜ν•΄ 쀄 수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”?
05:15
Myself and Timbaland have been working on this idea
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μ €λŠ” νŒ€λ°œλžœλ“œμ™€ 이λ₯Ό μœ„ν•΄ ν•΄μ˜¨ 게 μžˆλŠ”λ°μš”.
05:18
called Verzuz for about three years now.
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벌주즈라고 뢈리고 이제 3λ…„ 정도 λμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:22
Then this trying time came,
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벌주즈λ₯Ό μ‹œμž‘ν•˜λ©΄,
05:23
and everybody started going to social media
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λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ μ†Œμ…œλ―Έλ””μ–΄μ— κ°€μ„œ μžμ‹ μ„ ν‘œν˜„ν•˜κ³  μžλž‘ν•˜κΈ° λ°”λΉ μ§‘λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:25
to express themselves.
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05:27
So what we did was I played my top songs,
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그리고 μ €λŠ” 제 인기곑을 ν‹€κ³ 
05:32
he played his top songs,
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νŒ€λ°œλžœλ“œλ„ 그의 인기곑을 ν‹€μ–΄μ„œ,
05:35
and we went on Instagram Live.
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ν•¨κ»˜ μΈμŠ€νƒ€κ·Έλž¨ 라이브 λ°©μ†‘μ„μ‹œμž‘ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:37
(Video) (Laughter)
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(μ˜μƒ) (μ›ƒμŒ)
05:38
Timbaland: You having fun?
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νŒ€λ²Œλžœλ“œ: μž¬λ―ΈμžˆμœΌμ‹ κ°€μš”?
05:40
This is so good for the culture.
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이거 문화에 정말 쒋은 것 κ°™μ•„μš”.
05:41
SB: A lot of people like to say "battle,"
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SB: λ§Žμ€ 뢄듀이 이걸 "경쟁"이라고 λΆ€λ₯΄κ³  μ‹ΆμœΌμ‹  것 κ°™μ•„μš”
05:43
we pulled back off of that word "battle,"
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ μ €ν¬λŠ” "경쟁"μ΄λΌλŠ” 단어λ₯Ό μ•ˆμ“°κΈ°λ‘œ ν–ˆμ£ .
05:45
because we're battling enough in the world today.
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 이미 μ‚¬νšŒμ—μ„œ μΆ©λΆ„νžˆ κ²½μŸν•˜κ³  μžˆμœΌλ‹ˆκΉŒμš”.
λŒ€μ‹ , ꡐ윑적인 μΆ•ν•˜ν–‰μ‚¬λΌκ³  λΆ€λ₯΄κΈ°λ‘œ ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
05:48
We call it educational celebration.
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05:50
I think we're on our ninth or tenth one.
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제 κΈ°μ–΅μ—” 저희가 9 λ²ˆμ§Όκ°€, 10 번째 라이브λ₯Ό ν•˜κ³  μžˆμ—ˆμ„ λ•Œ
05:52
Me and Timbaland started out with 20,000 people.
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μ €ν¬λŠ” 2만 λͺ…μ—μ„œ λΆ€ν„° μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
05:56
As of yesterday, 750,000 people in one room.
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그리고 μ–΄μ œ 75만 λͺ…이 우리 방에 λ“€μ–΄μ™”μ£ .
06:03
So, we have this thing called the "Verzuz Effect."
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κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ μ €ν¬λŠ” '벌주즈 효과'라고 λΆˆλ¦¬λŠ” 것을 ν•˜κ²Œ λμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:07
And the "Verzuz Effect" is what happens to the artist
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이게 뭐냐면, μ•„ν‹°μŠ€νŠΈκ°€ λ²Œμ£Όμ¦ˆμ— κΈ°μ—¬ν•œ ν›„ μƒκΈ°λŠ” 효과인데,
06:10
after they contribute to Verzuz.
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06:14
We can go to the Babyface and Teddy Riley.
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λŒ€ν‘œμ μΈ 예둜 λ² μ΄λΉ„νŽ˜μ΄μŠ€μ™€ ν…Œλ”” 라일리가 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:17
They both went up millions of views.
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그듀은 λͺ¨λ‘ 백만 뷰에 μ§„μž…ν–ˆκ³ 
06:20
Both of their songs reentered the charts.
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κ·Έλ“€μ˜ λ…Έλž˜λŠ” μ—¬λŸΏ μ°¨νŠΈμ— μž¬μ§„μž…ν–ˆμ£ .
06:23
And then we look at the first ladies Verzuz,
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저희가 λ³Έ 첫 λ ˆμ΄λ”” λ²Œμ£Όμ¦ˆλŠ”
06:27
and both Erykah Badu and Jill Scott
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에리카 바두와 질 슀콧 μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ 두 λΆ„μ΄μ—ˆλŠ”λ°
06:30
have seven positions in the top 20 charts.
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두 λΆ„μ˜ 7개의 곑듀이 탑 20 μ°¨νŠΈμ— μ§‘μž…ν–ˆμ—ˆμ£ 
06:34
This is the Verzuz Effect.
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이게 λ°”λ‘œ 벌주즈 νš¨κ³Όμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:36
You know, billions and billions and billions of impressions.
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μ•„μ‹œλ‹€μ‹œν”Ό, μ—„μ²­λ‚˜κ²Œ, μ—„μ²­λ‚˜κ²Œ λ§Žμ€ 10μ–΅κ°œλ„ λ„˜λŠ” ν‘œν˜„λ“€μ΄ λ‚œλ¬΄ν–ˆμ£ .
06:40
This is something I've never seen before.
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μ „μ—λŠ” λ³Έ 적이 μ—†λ˜ κ²ƒμ΄μ—ˆμ£ .
06:42
And I felt that these artists are getting their flowers today,
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그리고 이와같은 μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€λ“€μ΄ μ˜€λŠ˜λ‚  그듀을 μœ„ν•œ 꽃을 받을 수 μžˆλŠ” 것이
06:46
which is a great thing, while they can smell them.
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정말 멋진 일인것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
μ‚΄μ•„κ³„μ…”μ„œ 받은 꽃ν–₯κΈ°λ₯Ό 맑을 수 μžˆλŠ” λ™μ•ˆμ— 말이죠.
06:49
This was personal for me,
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이건 제 개인적인 이야기이긴 ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ,
06:51
because many a times I've been counted out,
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μ—¬λŸ¬λ²ˆ μ œκ°€ μ‹€νŒ¨ν•œ κ²½ν—˜μ΄ 있기 λ•Œλ¬ΈμΈμ§€λŠ” λͺ°λΌλ„
06:53
I've been hot and cold 100 times.
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상황이 μ΄λž¬λ‹€μ €λž¬λ‹€ ν•˜κΈ°λ₯Ό 100λ²ˆμ€ κ²ͺμ–΄ λ΄€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:56
You still have to understand the business as an artist,
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아직도 μ˜ˆμˆ λ„ μ‚¬μ—…μ˜ μ’…λ₯˜ 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜λΌλŠ” 이해도가 λΆ€μ‘±ν•˜κ³ 
07:00
to elevate to your level that you deserve to be.
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μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€κ°€ λ°›μ•„μ•Ό λ§ˆλ•…ν•œ λŒ€μš° μˆ˜μ€€μœΌλ‘œ 올릴 ν•„μš”κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:04
Because most creatives, we're very emotional,
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더 창의적일 수둝, λ”μš± 감성적일 수 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
07:08
we're very "let somebody else handle that, I want to stick to this."
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μ’…μ’… "μž‘ν’ˆ νŒλ§€λŠ” λ‹€λ₯Έ μ‚¬λžŒμ—κ²Œ 맑기고 μ €λŠ” μ°½μž‘μ—λ§Œ μ „λ…ν• λž˜μš”"μ‹μ˜
νƒœλ„λ₯Ό μ·¨ν•˜κ³€ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:12
But not only creativity is key, education is key,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ, μ°½μ˜μ„± 뿐만 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ κ΅μœ‘λ„ μ€‘μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:16
which is the reason why I went back to school
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μ œκ°€ λ‹€μ‹œ ν•™κ΅λ‘œ λŒμ•„κ°„ μ΄μœ μ΄κΈ°λ„ ν•˜κ³ μš”.
07:18
to sharpen my pencil in my mid-30s.
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30λŒ€ μ€‘λ°˜μ— 제 μžμ‹ μ„ 더 λ°œμ „μ‹œν‚€κΈ° μœ„ν•΄μ„œμš”.
07:22
We have to know our business.
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우린 μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 뭘 ν•΄μ•Όν•˜λŠ” 지 μ•Œ ν•„μš”κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:24
But it's going to take us digging in a little deeper
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μ΄λŠ” 저희가 더 깊히 νƒκ΅¬ν•˜κ³ 
07:28
and pulling out the knowledge that we need to prepare ourselves
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사업에 ν•„μš”ν•œ 지식듀을 끄집어 내도둝 ν•  κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:31
for this world that's waiting to take advantage of the creatives.
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μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€λ“€μ˜ 이점을 μ΄μš©ν•˜λ €κ³  κΈ°λ‹€λ¦¬λŠ” 이 세상에 λ§žμ„œκΈ° μœ„ν•΄μ„œμš”.
그러고 λ‚˜μ„œ 더 λ‚˜μ€ 선택을 ν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:34
Then we can make better choices,
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07:35
then we can end that conversation of artists dying poor.
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그러고 λ‚˜μ„œ μ˜ˆμˆ κ°€λŠ” μ°’μ–΄μ§€κ²Œ κ°€λ‚œν•˜λ‹€λΌλŠ” 생각을 끝낼 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:39
If we're not protecting the arts,
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λ§Œμ•½μ— 저희가 μ˜ˆμˆ μ„ 지킀지 μ•ŠλŠ”λ‹€λ©΄
07:41
we're not protecting our future,
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μ €ν¬μ˜ 미래λ₯Ό 지킀지 μ•ŠλŠ” 것과 닀름이 μ—†κ³ 
07:43
we're not protecting this world.
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이 세계λ₯Ό 지킀지 μ•ŠλŠ” 것과 닀름 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:45
Creativity heals us.
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μ°½μž‘μ€ 우리λ₯Ό μΉ˜μœ ν•΄μ€λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:48
What's these shades closing for?
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이 컀텐은 μ™œ λ‹«νžˆλŠ” 거지?
07:51
Time out.
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μ‹œκ°„ λ‹€ λλ‚˜ λ³΄λ„€μš”.
07:53
(Scoffs)
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(μ½§μ›ƒμŒ)
07:55
Voice: I kind of like that. That was cool.
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λͺ©μ†Œλ¦¬: μ „ 쑰금 λ©‹μžˆμ—ˆλ˜ 것 κ°™μ•„μš”. μ’‹μ•˜μ–΄μš”.
07:57
SB: (Laughs)
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SB:(μ›ƒμŒ)
이 μ›Ήμ‚¬μ΄νŠΈ 정보

이 μ‚¬μ΄νŠΈλŠ” μ˜μ–΄ ν•™μŠ΅μ— μœ μš©ν•œ YouTube λ™μ˜μƒμ„ μ†Œκ°œν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ „ 세계 졜고의 μ„ μƒλ‹˜λ“€μ΄ κ°€λ₯΄μΉ˜λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ μˆ˜μ—…μ„ 보게 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 각 λ™μ˜μƒ νŽ˜μ΄μ§€μ— ν‘œμ‹œλ˜λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ μžλ§‰μ„ 더블 ν΄λ¦­ν•˜λ©΄ κ·Έκ³³μ—μ„œ λ™μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λΉ„λ””μ˜€ μž¬μƒμ— 맞좰 μžλ§‰μ΄ μŠ€ν¬λ‘€λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ˜κ²¬μ΄λ‚˜ μš”μ²­μ΄ μžˆλŠ” 경우 이 문의 양식을 μ‚¬μš©ν•˜μ—¬ λ¬Έμ˜ν•˜μ‹­μ‹œμ˜€.

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