What obligation do social media platforms have to the greater good? | Eli Pariser

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2019-12-04 ・ TED


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What obligation do social media platforms have to the greater good? | Eli Pariser

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Prevoditelj: Ivan Nekić Recezent: Sanda L
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I was talking to a guy at a party in California
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Razgovarao sam s tipom na jednoj zabavi u Kaliforniji
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about tech platforms
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o tech platformama
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and the problems they're creating in society.
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i problemima koje one stvaraju u društvu.
00:21
And he said, "Man, if the CEOs just did more drugs
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A on reče: „Čovječe, da su izvršni direktori drogirani
00:25
and went to Burning Man,
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partijali na Burning Manu,
00:26
we wouldn't be in this mess."
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ne bismo bili u ovom neredu.”
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
00:29
I said, "I'm not sure I agree with you."
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Rekao sam: „Nisam siguran da se slažem s tobom.”
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For one thing, most of the CEOs have already been to Burning Man.
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Naime, većina izvršnih direktora već su bili na Burning Manu.
00:36
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
00:37
But also, I'm just not sure that watching a bunch of half-naked people
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Ali isto tako, nisam siguran da je gledanje hrpe polugolih ljudi
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run around and burn things
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kako trče okolo i pale
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is really the inspiration they need right now.
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doista inspiracija koja im je sad potrebna.
00:44
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
00:45
But I do agree that things are a mess.
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Ali slažem se da su stvari u neredu.
00:49
And so, we're going to come back to this guy,
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I tako, vratit ćemo se tom tipu,
00:51
but let's talk about the mess.
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ali pričajmo o neredu.
00:53
Our climate's getting hotter and hotter.
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Naša klima je sve toplija i toplija.
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It's getting harder and harder to tell truth from fiction.
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I sve teže i teže je razlikovati istinu od fikcije.
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And we've got this global migratory crisis.
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A tu je i ta globalna migracijska kriza.
01:01
And just at the moment when we really need new tools
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A upravo u trenutku kad stvarno trebamo nove alate
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and new ways of coming together as a society,
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i nove načine okupljanja kao društvo,
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it feels like social media is kind of tearing at our civic fabric
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izgleda kao da društveni mediji trgaju naše građansko tkanje
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and setting us against each other.
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i okreću nas jedne protiv drugih.
01:14
We've got viral misinformation on WhatsApp,
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Imamo viralne dezinformacije na WhatsAppu,
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bullying on Instagram
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nasilje na Instagramu
01:19
and Russian hackers on Facebook.
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i ruske hakere na Facebooku.
01:22
And I think this conversation that we're having right now
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I mislim da je ovaj razgovor ovdje
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about the harms that these platforms are creating
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o šteti koju te platforme stvaraju
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is so important.
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jako važan.
01:30
But I also worry
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Ali također sam zabrinut
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that we could be letting a kind of good existential crisis in Silicon Valley
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da ćemo protratiti neku vrst dobre egzistencijalne krize
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go to waste
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u Silicijskoj dolini
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if the bar for success is just that it's a little harder
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ako ljestvica uspjeha bude takva da makedonskim tinejdžerima
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for Macedonian teenagers to publish false news.
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samo malo otežamo objavu lažnih vijesti.
01:46
The big question, I think, is not just
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Smatram kako veliko pitanje nije samo
01:48
what do we want platforms to stop doing,
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što želimo da platforme prestanu raditi,
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but now that they've effectively taken control of our online public square,
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nego kad su već u praksi preuzele kontrolu nad našim javnim prostorom,
01:56
what do we need from them for the greater good?
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što nam je od njih potrebno za veće dobro?
01:59
To me, this is one of the most important questions of our time.
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Za mene je to jedno od najvažnijih pitanja našega vremena.
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What obligations do tech platforms have to us
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Kakve obveze tech platforme imaju prema nama
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in exchange for the power we let them hold over our discourse?
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u zamjenu za moć koju im prepuštamo nad našim diskursom?
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I think this question is so important,
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Mislim da je ovo pitanje toliko važno jer,
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because even if today’s platforms go away,
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čak i ako današnje platforme nestanu,
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we need to answer this question
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trebamo odgovor na to pitanje
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in order to be able to ensure that the new platforms that come back
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kako bismo mogli osigurati da nove platforme koje se vraćaju
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are any better.
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budu bolje.
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So for the last year, I've been working with Dr. Talia Stroud
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U posljednjih godinu dana radio sam s dr. Taliom Stroud
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at the University of Texas, Austin.
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na Sveučilištu u Teksasu, Austin.
02:29
We've talked to sociologists and political scientists
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Razgovarali smo sa sociolozima, politolozima i filozofima
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and philosophers
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kako bismo pokušali odgovoriti na to pitanje.
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to try to answer this question.
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02:35
And at first we asked,
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Prvo smo pitali:
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"If you were Twitter or Facebook and trying to rank content for democracy
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"Da ste vi Twitter ili Facebook, kad biste sadržaj rangirali po demokraciji
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rather than for ad clicks or engagement,
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umjesto po klikovima ili aktivnosti,
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what might that look like?"
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kako bi to izgledalo?"
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But then we realized,
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No, onda smo shvatili
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this sort of suggests that this is an information problem
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da to sugerira kako postoji problem s informacijom
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or a content problem.
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ili sadržajem.
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And for us, the platform crisis is a people problem.
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A za nas je kriza platformi ljudski problem.
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It's a problem about the emergent weird things that happen
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Problem čudnih stvari koje se događaju
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when large groups of people get together.
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kad se okupe velike grupe ljudi.
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And so we turned to another, older idea.
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Pa smo se okrenuli drugoj, starijoj ideji.
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We asked,
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Pitali smo:
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"What happens when we think about platforms as spaces?"
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„Što se događa kada o platformama razmišljamo kao o prostorima?”
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We know from social psychology that spaces shape behavior.
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Znamo iz socijalne psihologije kako prostori oblikuju ponašanje.
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You put the same group of people in a room like this,
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Stavite istu grupu ljudi u prostor poput ovog
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and they're going to behave really differently
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i ponašat će se zbilja drugačije
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than in a room like this.
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nego u prostoru poput ovog.
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When researchers put softer furniture in classrooms,
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Kad su istraživači staviti mekši namještaj u učionice,
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participation rates rose by 42 percent.
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stopa sudjelovanja porasla je za 42 posto.
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And spaces even have political consequences.
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Prostori imaju čak i političke posljedice.
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When researchers looked at neighborhoods with parks
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Kad su istraživači promatrali četvrti s parkovima
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versus neighborhoods without,
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naspram četvrti bez parkova,
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after adjusting for socioeconomic factors,
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nakon podešavanja socioekonomskih čimbenika,
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they found that neighborhoods with parks had higher levels of social trust
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otkrili su da su četvrti s parkovima imale višu razinu društvenog povjerenja
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and were better able to advocate for themselves politically.
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i bile spremnije politički se zalagati za sebe.
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So spaces shape behavior,
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Dakle, prostori oblikuju ponašanje,
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partly by the way they're designed
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dijelom onim kako su dizajnirani,
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and partly by the way that they encode certain norms about how to behave.
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a dijelom time što sadrže određene norme ponašanja.
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We all know that there are some behaviors that are OK in a bar
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Svi znamo kako su neka ponašanja OK u kafiću,
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that are not OK in a library,
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ali nisu OK u knjižnici,
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and maybe vice versa.
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a možda i obrnuto.
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And this gives us a little bit of a clue,
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To nam daje mali putokaz,
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because there are online spaces
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jer postoje online prostori
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that encode these same kinds of behavioral norms.
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koji uključuju istu vrstu pravila ponašanja.
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So, for example, behavior on LinkedIn
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Tako je, naprimjer, na LinkedInu
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seems pretty good.
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ponašanje sasvim u redu.
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Why?
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Zašto?
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Because it reads as a workplace.
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Jer se smatra radnim mjestom
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And so people follow workplace norms.
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pa se ljudi drže pravila radnog mjesta.
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You can even see it in the way they dress in their profile pictures.
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To se čak može vidjeti po načinu kako su obučeni na profilnim slikama.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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So if LinkedIn is a workplace,
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Pa ako je LinkedIn radno mjesto,
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what is Twitter like?
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što je onda Twitter?
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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Well, it's like a vast, cavernous expanse,
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Pa, to je poput velikog polutamnog prostora
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where there are people talking about sports,
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gdje ljudi razgovaraju o sportu,
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arguing about politics, yelling at each other, flirting,
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prepiru se o politici viču jedni na druge, flertaju,
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trying to get a job,
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nastojeći dobiti posao,
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all in the same place, with no walls, no divisions,
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sve na istom mjestu, bez zidova, bez podjela,
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and the owner gets paid more the louder the noise is.
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a vlasnik dobiva veću plaću što je veća buka.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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No wonder it's a mess.
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Nije čudno da vlada nered.
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And this raises another thing that become obvious
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Time još nešto postaje očito
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when we think about platforms in terms of physical space.
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kad govorimo o platformama kao o fizičkom prostoru.
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Good physical spaces are almost always structured.
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Dobri fizički prostori gotovo su uvijek strukturirani.
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They have rules.
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Imaju pravila.
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Silicon Valley is built on this idea that unstructured space is conducive
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Silicijska dolina izgrađena je na ideji da je nestrukturirani prostor
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for human behavior.
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pogodan za ljudsko ponašanje.
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And I actually think there's a reason for this myopia
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Zapravo mislim da postoji razlog za tu kratkovidnost
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built into the location of Silicon Valley itself.
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ugrađen u samu lokaciju Silicijske doline.
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So, Michele Gelfand is a sociologist
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Michele Gelfand je sociologinja
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who studies how norms vary across cultures.
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koja proučava kako se norme razlikuju kroz kulture.
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And she watches how cultures like Japan -- which she calls "tight" --
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Promatra kako su kulture poput japanske -- koje naziva "strogima" --
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is very conformist, very rule-following,
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vrlo konformističke, veoma slijede pravila,
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and cultures like Brazil are very loose.
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a kulture poput brazilske vrlo labave.
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You can see this even in things like
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To se čak može vidjeti po tome
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how closely synchronized the clocks are on a city street.
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koliko su precizno sinkronizirani satovi na gradskim ulicama.
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So as you can see, the United States is one of the looser countries.
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Pa, kao što možete vidjeti, SAD su jedna od tih labavih zemalja.
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And the loosest state in the United States is,
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A najlabavija država u SAD-u je
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you got it, California.
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shvatili ste, Kalifornija.
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And Silicon Valley culture came out of the 1970s Californian counterculture.
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A kultura Silicijske doline razvila se iz kalifornijske subkulture 1970-ih.
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So, just to recap:
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Dakle, da ponovimo:
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the spaces that the world is living in
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prostori u kojima svijet živi
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came out of the loosest culture in the loosest state
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dolaze iz najlabavije kulture u najlabavijoj državi
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in one of the loosest countries in the world.
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u jednoj od najlabavijih zemalja svijeta.
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No wonder they undervalue structure.
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Nije čudo da podcjenjuju strukturu.
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And I think this really matters, because people need structure.
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Ja smatram da je to zbilja važno, jer je ljudima potrebna strutura.
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You may have heard this word "anomie."
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Možda ste čuli riječ "anomija."
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It literally means "a lack of norms" in French.
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U francuskom doslovce znači "nedostatak normi".
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It was coined by Émile Durkheim
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Skovao ju je Émile Durkheim
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to describe the vast, overwhelming feeling
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kako bi opisao veliki, sveobuhvatni osjećaj
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that people have in spaces without norms.
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koji imaju ljudi u prostorima bez normi.
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Anomie has political consequences.
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Anomija ima političke posljedice.
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Because what Gelfand has found is that, when things are too loose,
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Gelfand je otkrila da ljudi, kad je stanje previše labavo,
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people crave order and structure.
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žude za poretkom i strukturom.
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And that craving for order and structure correlates really strongly
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A ta žudnja za poretkom i strukturom je u snažnoj korelaciji
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with support for people like these guys.
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s potporom ovakvim ljudima
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
Ne mislim da je suludo pitati
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I don't think it's crazy to ask
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06:59
if the structurelessness of online life is actually feeding anxiety
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hrani li ta bezstrukturnost online života možda anksioznost
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that's increasing a responsiveness to authoritarianism.
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koja povećava prijemčivost za autoritarnost.
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So how might platforms bring people together
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Pa kako bi platforme mogle zbližavati ljude
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in a way that creates meaning
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na način koji stvara smisao
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and helps people understand each other?
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i pomaže ljudima u međusobnom razumijevanju?
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And this brings me back to our friend from Burning Man.
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Vraćam se na svog prijatelja i Burning Mana.
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Because listening to him, I realized:
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Slušajući ga, shvatio sam:
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it's not just that Burning Man isn't the solution --
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Burning Man ne samo da nije rješenje --
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it's actually a perfect metaphor for the problem.
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to je savršena metafora problema.
07:31
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:32
You know, it's a great place to visit for a week,
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Znate, to je odlično mjesto za jedan posjet
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this amazing art city, rising out of nowhere in the dust.
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nevjerojatan grad umjetnosti koji se izdiže niotkuda u prašini.
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But you wouldn't want to live there.
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Ali tamo ne želite živjeti.
07:41
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:42
There's no running water,
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Nema tekuće vode,
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there's no trash pickup.
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nema skupljanja smeća.
07:45
At some point, the hallucinogens run out,
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U nekom bi trenutku ponestalo opijata
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and you're stuck with a bunch of wealthy white guys
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i zaglavili biste s hrpom bogatih bijelih dečki
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in the dust in the desert.
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u pustinjskoj prašini.
07:52
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:53
Which, to me, is sometimes how social media feels in 2019.
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Meni to liči na društvene medije 2019.
07:57
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:59
A great, fun, hallucinatory place to visit has become our home.
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Veliko mjesto za zabavu uz halucinacije postalo je naš dom.
08:05
And so,
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I tako,
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if we look at platforms through the lens of spaces,
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ako promatramo platforme kroz optiku prostora,
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we can then ask ourselves:
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možemo se pitati:
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Who knows how to structure spaces for the public good?
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Tko zna kako strukturirati prostore za opće dobro?
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And it turns out, this is a question
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Ispostavilo se da je to pitanje
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people have been thinking about for a long time about cities.
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zaokupljalo ljude dugo vremena u slučaju gradova.
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Cities were the original platforms.
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Gradovi su bili originalne platforme.
08:24
Two-sided marketplace?
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Dvostrano trgovište?
08:25
Check.
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Tu je.
08:27
Place to keep up with old friends and distant relatives?
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Mjesto za druženje sa starim prijateljima i daljim rođacima?
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Check.
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Tu je.
08:31
Vector for viral sharing?
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Vektor za viralno dijeljenje?
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Check.
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Tu je.
08:35
In fact, cities have encountered
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Doista, gradovi su se suočavali
08:37
a lot of the same social and political challenges
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s mnogim istim društvenim i političkim izazovima
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that platforms are now encountering.
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s kojima se platforme sada susreću.
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They've dealt with massive growth that overwhelmed existing communities
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Oni su se suočavali s masovnim rastom koji nadmašuje postojeće zajednice
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and the rise of new business models.
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i usponom novih poslovnih modela.
08:53
They've even had new, frictionless technologies
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Imali su čak i nove, besprijekorne tehnologije
08:56
that promised to connect everyone together
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koje su obećavale kako će sve povezati,
08:59
and that instead deepened existing social and race divides.
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a umjesto toga su produbile postojeće socijalne i rasne podjele.
09:05
But because of this history of decay and renewal
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Ali zbog te povijesti propadanja i obnova,
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and segregation and integration,
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segregacije i integracije,
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cities are the source of some of our best ideas
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gradovi su izvor nekih naših najboljih ideja
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about how to build functional, thriving communities.
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kako izgraditi funkcionalne, prosperitetne zajednice.
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Faced with a top-down, car-driven vision of city life,
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Suočeni s izokrenutom vizijom gradskoga života, pokretanom automobilima,
09:22
pioneers like Jane Jacobs said,
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pioniri poput Jane Jacobs rekoše:
09:24
let’s instead put human relationships at the center of urban design.
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stavimo umjesto toga ljudske odnose u središte urbanoga dizajna.
09:30
Jacobs and her fellow travelers like Holly Whyte, her editor,
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Jacobs i njezini suputnici poput urednice Holly Whyte
09:33
were these really great observers of what actually happened on the street.
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bili su veliki promatrači onoga što se doista događalo na ulicama.
09:38
They watched: Where did people stop and talk?
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Promatrali su: gdje se ljudi zaustavljaju i razgovaraju?
09:42
When did neighbors become friends?
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Kad su susjedi postali prijatelji?
09:44
And they learned a lot.
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I naučili su mnogo toga.
09:46
For example, they noticed that successful public places
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Na primjer, uočili su da uspješna javna mjesta
09:51
generally have three different ways that they structure behavior.
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općenito imaju tri načina strukturiranja ponašanja.
09:54
There's the built environment,
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Postoji izgrađeni okoliš,
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you know, that we're going to put a fountain here or a playground there.
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znate, ono kad stavimo ovdje fontanu a tamo igralište.
10:01
But then, there's programming,
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Zatim, postoji program,
10:03
like, let's put a band at seven and get the kids out.
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kao, neka bend svira u sedam da klinci izađu.
10:08
And there's this idea of mayors,
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A tu je i ideja gradonačelnika,
10:11
people who kind of take this informal ownership of a space
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ljudi koji kao da koriste to neformalno vlasništvo nad prostorom
10:14
to keep it welcoming and clean.
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kako bi ga održavali ugodnim i čistim.
10:17
All three of these things actually have analogues online.
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Sve te tri stvari imaju analogije online.
10:21
But platforms mostly focus on code,
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No platforme se većinom usredotoče na kod,
10:23
on what's physically possible in the space.
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na ono što je u tom prostoru fizički moguće.
10:26
And they focus much less on these other two softer, social areas.
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A mnogo manje se fokusiraju na druga dva "soft" društvena područja.
10:31
What are people doing there?
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Što ljudi tamo rade?
10:33
Who's taking responsibility for it?
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Tko preuzima odgovornost za to?
10:36
So like Jane Jacobs did for cities,
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Kao što je Jane Jacobs učinila za gradove,
10:39
Talia and I think we need a new design movement
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Talia i ja smatramo da nam je potreban novi dizajnerski pokret
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for online space,
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za online prostor.
10:43
one that considers
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Koji neće samo pitati
10:45
not just "How do we build products that work for users or consumers?"
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"Kako načiniti proizvode koji rade za korisnike ili potrošače?"
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"How do we make something user-friendly?"
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"Kako ovo učiniti user-friendly?",
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but "How do we make products that are public-friendly?"
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nego "Kako načiniti proizvode koji su 'public-friendly'?"
10:58
Because we need products that don't serve individuals
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Jer su nam potrebni proizvodi koji ne služe pojedincima
11:01
at the expense of the social fabric on which we all depend.
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nauštrb društvenoga tkiva o kojemu svi ovisimo.
11:06
And we need it urgently,
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To nam je žurno potrebno
11:08
because political scientists tell us
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jer nam politolozi kažu
11:10
that healthy democracies need healthy public spaces.
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kako su za zdrave demokracije potrebni zdravi javni prostori.
11:17
So, the public-friendly digital design movement that Talia and I imagine
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Dakle, digitalni public-friendly pokret koji smo Talia i ja zamislili
11:21
asks this question:
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postavlja ovo pitanje:
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What would this interaction be like if it was happening in physical space?
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Kakva bi ta interakcija bila da se događa u fizičkom prostoru?
11:26
And it asks the reverse question:
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Te postavlja i obrnuto pitanje:
11:28
What can we learn from good physical spaces
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Što možemo naučiti iz dobrih fizičkih prostora
11:31
about how to structure behavior in the online world?
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o tome kako strukturirati ponašanje u online svijetu?
11:34
For example, I grew up in a small town in Maine,
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Ja sam, na primjer, odrastao u malom gradu u Maineu
11:37
and I went to a lot of those town hall meetings that you hear about.
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i išao na mnogo onih sastanaka u gradskoj vijećnici o kojima ste čuli.
11:41
And unlike the storybook version, they weren't always nice.
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Za razliku od verzije iz priče, nisu uvijek bili ugodni.
11:45
Like, people had big conflicts, big feelings ...
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Ljudi su se sukobljavali, pjenili...
11:48
It was hard sometimes.
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ponekad je bilo teško.
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But because of the way that that space was structured,
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No, zbog načina na koji je taj prostor bio strukturiran,
11:52
we managed to land it OK.
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uspijevali smo sve dobro privesti kraju.
11:55
How?
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Kako?
11:57
Well, here's one important piece.
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Pa, tu je jedan važan dio.
12:00
The downcast glance, the dirty look,
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Pogled u stranu, zločest izgled,
12:02
the raised eyebrow, the cough ...
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podignuta obrva, nakašljavanje...
12:05
When people went on too long or lost the crowd,
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Kad bi ljudi postali predugi ili se udaljili od publike,
12:09
they didn't get banned or blocked or hauled out by the police,
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nisu dobivali zabranu niti ih je izbacivala policija.
12:13
they just got this soft, negative social feedback.
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Dobili bi samo tu "soft" negativnu socijalnu povratnu informaciju.
12:16
And that was actually very powerful.
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A ona je zapravo bila vrlo moćna.
12:20
I think Facebook and Twitter could build this,
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Mislim da bi Facebook i Twitter mogli to napraviti,
12:22
something like this.
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nešto poput toga.
12:27
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
12:31
I think there are some other things that online spaces can learn
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Mislim da ima i drugih stvari koje online prostori mogu naučiti
12:34
from offline spaces.
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od offline prostora.
12:36
Holly Whyte observed that in healthy public spaces,
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Holly Whyte je primijetila da kod zdravih javnih prostora
12:39
there are often many different places that afford different ways of relating.
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postoji mnogo različitih mjesta koja pružaju različite načine odnosa.
12:43
So the picnic table where you have lunch with your family
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Tako stol za piknik gdje ručate s obitelji
12:48
may not be suited for the romantic walk with a partner
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možda nije prikladan za romantičnu šetnju s partnerom
12:52
or the talk with some business colleagues.
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ili šetnju s kolegama s posla.
12:55
And it's worth noting that in real space,
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Ne smeta što u stvarnom prostoru
12:57
in none of these places are there big, visible public signs of engagement.
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ni na jednom od tih mjesta nema velikih vidljivih znakova namjene.
13:02
So digital designers could think about
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Digitalni dizajneri mogli bi razmisliti
13:05
what kind of conversations do we actually want to invite,
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kakve razgovore zapravo želimo dobiti
13:08
and how do we build specifically for those kinds of conversations.
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i kako graditi specifično za takvu vrst razgovora.
13:13
Remember the park that we talked about that built social trust?
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Sjećate li se parka koji izgrađuje društveno povjerenje?
13:16
That didn't happen because people were having these big political arguments.
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To se nije dogodilo jer su ljudi imali te velike političke argumente.
13:20
Most strangers don't actually even talk to each other
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Većina stranaca čak ni ne razgovara jedni s drugima
13:23
the first three or four or five times they see each other.
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prvih tri, četiri ili pet puta kad se vide.
13:27
But when people, even very different people,
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Ali kad ljudi, čak i vrlo različiti ljudi,
13:29
see each other a lot,
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jedni druge vide često,
razvija se prisnost,
13:31
they develop familiarity,
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a to stvara temelj za odnose.
13:32
and that creates the bedrock for relationships.
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13:35
And I think, actually, you know,
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Zapravo mislim, znate,
13:39
maybe that early idea of cyberspace as kind of this bodiless meeting place
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možda nas je ta rana ideja o kiberprostoru kao nekom bestjelesnom mjestu okupljanja
13:44
of pure minds and pure ideas
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čistih misli i čistih ideja
13:46
sent us off in the wrong direction.
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odvela u pogrešnom smjeru.
13:48
Maybe what we need instead is to find a way to be in proximity,
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Možda nam je zapravo potrebno pronaći način da budemo blizu
13:52
mostly talking amongst ourselves,
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uglavnom međusobno razgovarajući,
13:54
but all sharing the same warm sun.
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ali dok svi dijelimo isto toplo sunce.
13:58
And finally:
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I na kraju:
13:59
healthy public spaces create a sense of ownership and equity.
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zdravi javni prostori stvaraju osjećaj vlasništva i jednakosti,
14:04
And this is where the city metaphor becomes challenging.
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a tu grad kao metafora postaje izazovan.
14:07
Because, if Twitter is a city,
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Jer, ako je Twitter grad,
14:09
it's a city that's owned by just a few people
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to je grad koji je u vlasništvu samo nekolicine ljudi,
14:12
and optimized for financial return.
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optimiziran za povrat ulaganja.
14:16
I think we really need digital environments
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Smatram da su nam potrebna digitalna okruženja
14:19
that we all actually have some real ownership of,
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gdje svi imamo neko stvarno vlasništvo,
14:21
environments that respect the diversity of human existence
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okruženja koja poštuju raznolikost ljudskog postojanja
14:25
and that give us some say and some input into the process.
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i daju nam pravo glasa i utjecanja na proces.
14:28
And I think we need this urgently.
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I mislim da nam to treba hitno.
14:30
Because Facebook right now --
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Jer je Facebook sada
14:32
I sort of think of, like, 1970s New York.
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neka vrst, recimo, New Yorka 1970-ih.
14:35
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:36
The public spaces are decaying, there's trash in the streets,
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Javni prostori propadaju, smeće je na ulicama,
14:40
people are kind of, like, mentally and emotionally
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ljudi kao da se mentalno i emocionalno
14:42
warming themselves over burning garbage.
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griju dok spaljuju smeće.
14:44
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:46
And --
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I --
14:48
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
14:53
And the natural response to this is to hole up in your apartment
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A prirodni odgovor na to je zatvoriti se u svoj stan
14:56
or consider fleeing for the suburbs.
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ili razmisliti o bijegu u predgrađa.
15:00
It doesn't surprise me
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Ne iznenađuje me
15:01
that people are giving up on the idea of online public spaces
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da ljudi odustaju od ideje javnih online prostora
15:05
the way that they've given up on cities over their history.
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kao što su tijekom povijesti odustajali od gradova.
15:10
And sometimes -- I'll be honest --
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A ponekad -- bit ću iskren --
15:12
it feels to me like this whole project of, like, wiring up a civilization
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osjećam da je čitav taj projekt neke vrsti ožičenja civilizacije
15:16
and getting billions of people to come into contact with each other
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i dovođenja milijardi ljudi u međusobni kontakt
15:19
is just impossible.
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naprosto nemoguć.
15:22
But modern cities tell us that it is possible
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No, moderni gradovi nam govore da je moguće
15:25
for millions of people who are really different,
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da milijuni ljudi koji su zbilja različiti
15:27
sometimes living right on top of each other,
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i ponekad žive jedni iznad drugih,
15:30
not just to not kill each other,
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ne samo da ne ubijaju jedni druge,
15:32
but to actually build things together,
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nego zapravo grade stvari zajedno,
15:34
find new experiences,
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nalaze nova iskustva,
15:36
create beautiful, important infrastructure.
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stvaraju lijepu, važnu infrastrukturu.
15:41
And we cannot give up on that promise.
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I ne možemo odustati od tog obećanja.
15:45
If we want to solve the big, important problems in front of us,
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Ako želimo riješiti velike, važne probleme pred sobom,
15:50
we need better online public spaces.
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trebamo bolje online javne prostore.
15:53
We need digital urban planners,
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Trebamo digitalne urbaniste,
15:56
new Jane Jacobses,
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nove Jane Jacobse,
15:57
who are going to build the parks and park benches of the online world.
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koji će graditi parkove i klupe u online svijetu.
16:01
And we need digital, public-friendly architects,
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Trebaju nam i digitalni, public-friendly arhitekti,
16:05
who are going to build what Eric Klinenberg calls
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koji će graditi ono što je Eric Klinenberg nazvao
16:07
"palaces for the people" -- libraries and museums and town halls.
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"palačama za ljude" -- knjižnice, muzeje i gradske vijećnice.
16:12
And we need a transnational movement,
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Treba nam nadnacionalni pokret
16:14
where these spaces can learn from each other,
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gdje ti prostori mogu učiti jedni od drugih,
16:17
just like cities have,
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baš kao i gradovi
16:18
about everything from urban farming to public art to rapid transit.
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o svemu: od urbane poljoprivrede do javne umjetnosti i brzog prometa.
16:25
Humanity moves forward
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Čovječanstvo se kreće prema naprijed
16:28
when we find new ways to rely on and understand and trust each other.
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kad nađemo nove načine da se oslonimo jedni na druge, razumijemo i vjerujemo si.
16:34
And we need this now more than ever.
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I moramo to sada više nego ikad.
16:38
If online digital spaces are going to be our new home,
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Ako će online digitalni prostori biti naš novi dom,
16:42
let's make them a comfortable, beautiful place to live,
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pretvorimo ih u ugodno, lijepo mjesto za život,
16:45
a place we all feel not just included
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mjesto gdje se svi osjećaju ne samo uključeni,
16:48
but actually some ownership of.
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nego i na neki način vlasnici.
16:50
A place we get to know each other.
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Mjesto gdje upoznajemo jedni druge.
16:53
A place you'd actually want not just to visit
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Mjesto koje ne želiš samo posjetiti
16:56
but to bring your kids.
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nego i tamo odvesti svoju djecu.
16:59
Thank you.
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Hvala.
17:00
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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