What if the poor were part of city planning? | Smruti Jukur Johari

179,781 views ・ 2020-02-28

TED


Please double-click on the English subtitles below to play the video.

00:13
What is our imagery of cities?
0
13032
2610
00:16
When we imagine cities,
1
16016
1809
00:17
we often imagine it to be something like this.
2
17849
2976
00:21
But what if what you're looking at is just half a picture,
3
21587
4191
00:25
but there is a city within the city.
4
25802
2626
00:29
This part of the city is often seen as slums,
5
29929
2905
00:32
squatters, informal,
6
32858
2021
00:34
and people living here are called illegal, informal,
7
34903
3190
00:38
criminals, beneficiaries, supplicants, etc.
8
38117
3087
00:42
But in reality,
9
42149
1426
00:43
these are poor people with no choices.
10
43599
3063
00:47
Poverty is a vicious cycle.
11
47702
2064
00:49
If born poor, it can take three or more generations
12
49790
2968
00:52
to escape one.
13
52782
1150
00:54
Many are forced in this cycle without choices,
14
54521
3026
00:57
to live on pavements,
15
57571
2919
01:00
along train tracks,
16
60514
2031
01:03
in dumping grounds,
17
63765
1785
01:06
along rivers,
18
66463
2199
01:08
swamps and many such unlivable spaces,
19
68686
3063
01:11
without clean water, toilets or housing.
20
71773
2928
01:15
But these places are not unfamiliar to me,
21
75841
2564
01:18
because since the age of six, I accompanied my father, a doctor,
22
78429
4301
01:22
who treated patients in the slums of Bombay.
23
82754
2974
01:25
Growing up, I would help him carry his bag of medicines
24
85752
2984
01:28
after school lessons --
25
88760
1174
01:29
I loved doing that.
26
89958
1267
01:31
Wanting to do something about these habitats,
27
91744
2532
01:34
I decided to become an architect.
28
94300
2697
01:37
But quite early on, I realized
29
97577
2286
01:39
that the beauty of architecture was only for the rich.
30
99887
3156
01:43
So I decided to do urban planning
31
103782
3413
01:47
and joined an NGO in India that works with the urban poor
32
107219
3404
01:50
who organize themselves to access basic services,
33
110647
2986
01:53
such as water, sanitation and housing, for the poor living in cities.
34
113657
3674
01:58
Now I spent 10 years of my life in professional education, in learning,
35
118228
5699
02:03
and then five years in unlearning it.
36
123951
2467
02:06
Because I realized
37
126815
2246
02:09
that all my training in architecture, design and planning
38
129085
3349
02:12
failed ground realities.
39
132458
2095
02:15
And this is where I learned the power of choice.
40
135879
3618
02:20
I unlearned many things,
41
140069
1975
02:22
but there are two myths about the poor
42
142068
1840
02:23
that I would like to share that we live with.
43
143932
2693
02:27
The first myth is a perception
44
147619
2024
02:29
that migration of poor people into cities is a problem.
45
149667
3428
02:34
Is migration really a choice?
46
154572
2332
02:37
My mentor Sheela Patel
47
157831
2032
02:39
asked to those who think of this as a problem,
48
159887
3523
02:43
"Go ask your grandfather where he came from," she says.
49
163434
3396
02:49
So what do poor people do when they migrate in cities?
50
169798
3135
02:52
Let me share an example.
51
172957
1600
02:55
This is the Mumbai International Airport.
52
175188
2421
02:57
All that you see in blue are large informal settlements around it.
53
177633
3722
03:01
Close to 75,000 people live here.
54
181862
2892
03:05
So who are these people that work silently in hotels, restaurants,
55
185445
5306
03:10
as laborers, babysitters, house helps
56
190775
3302
03:14
and countless other jobs
57
194101
1651
03:15
that we need for cities to function without a glitch?
58
195776
2746
03:19
And where do they live?
59
199133
1533
03:21
In most cities, they live in slums.
60
201165
2872
03:25
So let us think again.
61
205204
1524
03:27
Do we want poor people to stop migrating in our cities?
62
207204
2933
03:31
What if they had a choice of not to?
63
211278
2761
03:35
The second myth is my personal experience.
64
215730
4063
03:40
It's this attitude that we professionals know better.
65
220188
3734
03:44
We professionals love to make choices for others,
66
224688
2946
03:47
especially for the poor.
67
227658
1865
03:49
Let me share an experience.
68
229547
1800
03:52
In a workshop that looked at designing 250 new houses for poor families
69
232349
4301
03:56
from a slum nearby,
70
236674
1905
03:58
there were different building materials that were presented,
71
238603
3487
04:02
ranging from papier-mâché, cardboard, honeycomb, etc.,
72
242114
3548
04:05
simply because they were affordable.
73
245686
1963
04:08
But there was this one idea that was of shipping containers.
74
248646
3571
04:13
Now we immediately approved of it,
75
253370
1659
04:15
because we thought it was sustainable, scalable, affordable.
76
255053
3682
04:19
But during this presentation,
77
259553
1881
04:21
a lady from the slum humbly spoke up.
78
261458
2466
04:24
And she asked the presenter,
79
264545
2501
04:27
"Would you choose to live in it?"
80
267070
1942
04:29
(Laughter)
81
269458
1420
04:31
"If not, then why did you think we would?"
82
271514
2991
04:35
Now this was a personal unlearning moment for me,
83
275704
2873
04:38
where I realized that poverty only changes affordability --
84
278601
3468
04:42
it does not change aspirations.
85
282093
2067
04:45
Now poor people have lived in temporary structures all their life.
86
285268
4015
04:49
They go from wall to wall,
87
289307
1532
04:50
moving from bricks to tin.
88
290863
1909
04:53
They move from building from bamboo,
89
293307
2143
04:55
tarpaulin sheets, plastic, to cardboard, to tin,
90
295474
3000
04:58
to bricks and cement,
91
298498
1151
04:59
just like the way we do.
92
299673
1600
05:02
So somewhere here, we were forcing our choices on them.
93
302069
3564
05:05
So should we force our choices on them,
94
305657
2468
05:08
or should we broaden their choices?
95
308149
2507
05:11
Now what if the opportunity to choose was given to people?
96
311752
3467
05:15
These are women who lived on the pavements of a neighborhood in Mumbai.
97
315998
4514
05:21
Now they faced constant evictions, and in response to it,
98
321037
3812
05:24
they organized a women's network called Mahila Milan.
99
324873
3466
05:29
Not only did they fight against evictions with those in power,
100
329055
3784
05:32
saved money and bought land,
101
332863
2278
05:35
but they also designed and helped construct their own houses.
102
335165
3531
05:39
Well, these were illiterate women, so how did they do that?
103
339538
3299
05:44
They used floor mats and saris to understand measurements.
104
344593
4330
05:49
A sari is four meters in length and 1.5 meters in width.
105
349423
4126
05:54
They used these simple day-to-day items to demonstrate house models.
106
354098
4602
05:59
And even they made three options to choose from
107
359115
2850
06:01
and invited all their fellow residents to come and have a look.
108
361989
3051
06:05
(Laughter)
109
365064
1686
06:06
And everybody loved this option that had a loft in it,
110
366774
4361
06:11
simply because it did two things.
111
371159
1960
06:13
One is that it accommodated larger families to sleep in.
112
373143
3540
06:16
And two, it allowed home-based work,
113
376707
3013
06:19
such as bangle-making, jewelry-designing,
114
379744
2364
06:22
embroidery-stitching, packaging items, etc.
115
382132
2841
06:26
Now they also decided to not have a toilet inside,
116
386212
3533
06:29
but instead have it outside in the corridors,
117
389769
2929
06:32
simply because it gave them more space and it was cheaper.
118
392722
2880
06:37
Now, professionals could have never thought
119
397095
2445
06:39
of something like that.
120
399564
1321
06:41
A formal design would have necessitated to have a toilet inside.
121
401798
3865
06:47
Now these are smaller examples --
122
407259
2429
06:49
let me share some larger context:
123
409712
2365
06:53
881,000,000 people --
124
413228
2247
06:55
that's about one sixth of this world, as we talk here --
125
415499
3094
06:58
are living in slums and informal settlements.
126
418617
2434
07:01
Almost every city in the global south has large slums in the size of townships.
127
421482
5648
07:07
Kibera, in Nairobi,
128
427789
2627
07:11
Dharavi, in Mumbai,
129
431313
1898
07:15
Khayelitsha in South Africa, just a few.
130
435046
2618
07:18
Now initially, they were all on waste and abandoned lands
131
438903
3570
07:22
that cities were never interested in.
132
442497
1915
07:24
As cities grew,
133
444857
1253
07:26
poor people started building on these lands
134
446134
2326
07:28
and brought value to this over time.
135
448484
2333
07:32
And today, these lands have become real estate hot spots
136
452038
3355
07:35
that everybody wants a piece of.
137
455417
2133
07:38
So how do cities and those in power choose to deal with them?
138
458331
3382
07:43
They demolish them and evict them
139
463442
2236
07:45
and move them away from their cities and economies
140
465702
3746
07:49
in order to build a new infrastructure.
141
469472
2523
07:53
They move them into vertical housing,
142
473456
2643
07:57
which in reality looks like this.
143
477234
2645
08:00
Now when built in high densities,
144
480982
1800
08:02
they lack natural light and ventilation,
145
482806
1938
08:04
and it often leads to unhealthy conditions.
146
484768
2438
08:08
Now, on one hand,
147
488815
1887
08:10
poor people are not involved in the participation of design,
148
490726
3492
08:14
and there is poor quality of construction.
149
494242
2407
08:16
And on the other hand,
150
496673
2466
08:19
they do not understand how to do maintenance,
151
499163
2302
08:21
you know, keeping bills, keeping records, forming societies --
152
501489
3834
08:25
this is always difficult for them.
153
505347
1703
08:28
And being forced to move into this formal society,
154
508564
4492
08:33
they end up looking like this in a few years.
155
513080
2753
08:36
Because formalization is not a product,
156
516580
2333
08:38
it's a process.
157
518937
1151
08:40
Moving from informal to formal for poor people is a journey.
158
520112
3457
08:43
It takes time to accept and adapt.
159
523903
2547
08:48
And when that choice is not given,
160
528187
2382
08:50
it becomes like this,
161
530593
1228
08:51
which I'm afraid, in future, these would become the slums.
162
531845
3605
08:57
Now instead of doing this,
163
537799
1278
08:59
what if we accommodated poor people
164
539101
2381
09:01
and gave them a choice to be a part of our cities
165
541506
2547
09:04
and develop them where they are,
166
544077
2103
09:06
giving them basic services, like in this picture?
167
546204
2690
09:10
Now what happens if cities and governments could work together,
168
550553
3540
09:14
if governments acknowledge poor people,
169
554117
2833
09:16
and they could build it together?
170
556974
1920
09:19
This is Mukuru.
171
559458
1603
09:21
It's a large informal settlement in Nairobi.
172
561609
2824
09:24
It's one of the largest settlements in Africa.
173
564457
2324
09:27
It's home to 300,000 people
174
567244
2166
09:29
living over 650 acres of land.
175
569434
2635
09:33
To help us understand that scale,
176
573007
1617
09:34
it's like squeezing the population of Pittsburgh
177
574648
2816
09:37
into the New York Central Park.
178
577488
1933
09:40
That's Mukuru.
179
580396
1150
09:43
So to give us a glimpse,
180
583220
1762
09:45
this is the condition of housing.
181
585006
2200
09:48
And this is what it is in between them.
182
588776
2202
09:53
So what is life in Mukuru like, just talking briefly?
183
593105
3360
09:57
Five hundred and fifty people use one single water tap
184
597065
4274
10:01
and pay nine times more
185
601363
1494
10:02
than what anybody else in the city could pay,
186
602881
2688
10:05
simply because there is no water infrastructure
187
605593
2238
10:07
and water is sold.
188
607855
1200
10:10
Many come back from work to find out that their houses do not exist,
189
610546
4174
10:14
because they have either been bulldozed,
190
614744
2182
10:16
or they have been burned down.
191
616950
1529
10:20
So, tired of this situation,
192
620695
2063
10:22
a local slum dwellers' federation called Muungano
193
622782
2877
10:25
decided to do something about it.
194
625683
1964
10:28
In four years,
195
628227
1469
10:29
they organized 20,000 residents to collect data,
196
629720
4413
10:34
map structures and put it together.
197
634157
2904
10:38
And the plan was very simple --
198
638379
1531
10:39
they only needed four things.
199
639934
1786
10:41
They wanted clean water,
200
641744
1952
10:43
toilets, decent roads
201
643720
2611
10:46
and, most importantly, not to be evicted.
202
646355
2667
10:50
So they presented this with the government of Nairobi.
203
650958
3111
10:54
And for the first time in history ever,
204
654492
2770
10:57
a city has agreed to do it.
205
657286
1800
10:59
The city of Nairobi, the government of Kenya,
206
659500
2216
11:01
declared Mukuru to be a special planning area,
207
661740
3472
11:05
which means that people could come up with their own plan.
208
665236
3231
11:08
People could decide to come up with their own norms and standards,
209
668491
3800
11:12
because the standards that work for the formal citizens
210
672315
2936
11:15
do not work in informal settings.
211
675275
1867
11:17
So what does that mean, to give us an instance?
212
677887
2761
11:21
If these are roads in Mukuru,
213
681736
1468
11:23
you can see that there are houses along both sides of the road.
214
683228
3714
11:27
Now in order to bring in a city bus,
215
687815
2897
11:30
as per the standards,
216
690736
1301
11:32
planners would have gone for a luxurious 25-meter-wide road.
217
692061
3635
11:36
Now that would mean displacing [25] percent of the structures --
218
696585
4548
11:41
that's a lot of people.
219
701157
1466
11:43
So instead of doing that, we came up with a 12-meter-wide road,
220
703823
3959
11:47
which had the structures intact and brought the city bus
221
707806
2913
11:50
without compromising on much services.
222
710743
2317
11:54
In another instance, let's talk about community toilets.
223
714203
4001
11:58
You know, in high-density areas,
224
718228
1557
11:59
where there is no scope for individual toilets,
225
719809
2824
12:02
like the public toilets that we have here.
226
722657
2293
12:05
So we would go for a male section and a female section.
227
725665
3317
12:09
But imagine this situation.
228
729894
1800
12:12
In the morning rush hours to the toilet,
229
732141
2896
12:15
when everybody is in intense pressure to relieve themselves,
230
735061
3230
12:18
and if you're standing in a queue of 50 people,
231
738315
2586
12:20
and there is a child standing behind an adult,
232
740925
2809
12:23
who wins?
233
743758
1150
12:26
Children end up squatting outside.
234
746203
2267
12:29
And that's why women decided
235
749004
2073
12:31
to come up with a separate squatting area for children.
236
751101
2873
12:33
Now, who could have thought of something like that?
237
753998
2431
12:37
The idea here is that when poor people choose,
238
757427
2877
12:40
they choose better.
239
760328
1556
12:41
They choose what works for them.
240
761908
2133
12:45
So choice is everything.
241
765551
2222
12:47
And power decides choice.
242
767797
2142
12:50
And we need those in power --
243
770363
3246
12:53
politicians, leaders, governments,
244
773633
2793
12:56
architects, planners, institutions, researchers --
245
776450
3201
12:59
and all of us in our everyday lives to respect choices.
246
779675
3963
13:04
Instead of choosing what is right for people, for the poor,
247
784857
4125
13:09
let's acknowledge and empower their choices.
248
789006
2933
13:12
And that is how we can build
249
792307
1743
13:14
better and inclusive cities for tomorrow,
250
794074
2441
13:16
completing the imagery of cities
251
796539
1762
13:18
built by the choices of its own people.
252
798325
2634
13:20
Thank you.
253
800983
1151
13:22
(Applause)
254
802158
3804
About this website

This site will introduce you to YouTube videos that are useful for learning English. You will see English lessons taught by top-notch teachers from around the world. Double-click on the English subtitles displayed on each video page to play the video from there. The subtitles scroll in sync with the video playback. If you have any comments or requests, please contact us using this contact form.

https://forms.gle/WvT1wiN1qDtmnspy7