Jamie Heywood: The big idea my brother inspired

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When my brother called me in December of 1998,
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he said, "The news does not look good."
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This is him on the screen.
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He'd just been diagnosed with ALS,
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which is a disease that the average lifespan is three years.
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It paralyzes you. It starts by killing
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the motor neurons in your spinal cord.
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And you go from being a healthy,
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robust 29-year-old male
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to someone that cannot breathe,
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cannot move, cannot speak.
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This has actually been, to me, a gift,
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because we began a journey
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to learn a new way of thinking about life.
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And even though Steven passed away three years ago
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we had an amazing journey as a family.
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We did not even --
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I think adversity is not even the right word.
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We looked at this and we said, "We're going to do something with this
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in an incredibly positive way."
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And I want to talk today
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about one of the things that we decided to do,
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which was to think about a new way of approaching healthcare.
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Because, as we all know here today,
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it doesn't work very well.
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I want to talk about it in the context of a story.
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This is the story of my brother.
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But it's just a story. And I want to go beyond the story,
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and go to something more.
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"Given my status, what is the best outcome
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I can hope to achieve, and how do I get there?"
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is what we are here to do in medicine, is what everyone should do.
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And those questions all have variables to them.
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All of our statuses are different.
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All of our hopes and dreams, what we want to accomplish,
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is different, and our paths will be different,
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they are all stories.
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But it's a story until we convert it to data
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and so what we do, this concept we had,
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was to take Steven's status, "What is my status?"
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and go from this concept of walking, breathing,
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and then his hands, speak,
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and ultimately happiness and function.
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So, the first set of pathologies, they end up in the stick man
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on his icon,
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but the rest of them are really what's important here.
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Because Steven, despite the fact that he was paralyzed,
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as he was in that pool, he could not walk,
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he could not use his arms -- that's why he had the little floaty things on them,
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did you see those? --
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he was happy. We were at the beach,
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he was raising his son, and he was productive.
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And we took this, and we converted it into data.
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But it's not a data point at that one moment in time.
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It is a data point of Steven in a context.
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Here he is in the pool. But here he is healthy,
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as a builder: taller, stronger,
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got all the women, amazing guy.
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Here he is walking down the aisle,
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but he can barely walk now, so it's impaired.
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And he could still hold his wife's hand, but he couldn't do buttons on his clothes,
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can't feed himself.
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And here he is, paralyzed completely,
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unable to breathe and move, over this time journey.
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These stories of his life, converted to data.
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He renovated my carriage house
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when he was completely paralyzed, and unable to speak,
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and unable to breathe, and he won an award for a historic restoration.
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So, here's Steven alone, sharing this story in the world.
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And this is the insight, the thing that we are
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excited about,
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because we have gone away from the community that we are,
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the fact that we really do love each other and want to care for each other.
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We need to give to others to be successful.
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So, Steven is sharing this story,
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but he is not alone.
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There are so many other people sharing their stories.
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Not stories in words, but stories in data and words.
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And we convert that information into this structure,
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this understanding, this ability to convert
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those stories into something that is computable,
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to which we can begin to change the way
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medicine is done and delivered.
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We did this for ALS. We can do this for depression,
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Parkinson's disease, HIV.
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These are not simple, they are not internet scalable;
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they require thought and processes
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to find the meaningful information about the disease.
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So, this is what it looks like when you go to the website.
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And I'm going to show you what Patients Like Me,
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the company that myself, my youngest brother
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and a good friend from MIT started.
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Here are the actual patients, there are 45,000 of them now,
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sharing their stories as data.
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Here is an M.S. patient.
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His name is Mike, and he is uniformly impaired
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on cognition, vision, walking, sensation.
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Those are things that are different for each M.S. patient.
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Each of them can have a different characteristic.
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You can see fibromyalgia, HIV, ALS, depression.
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Look at this HIV patient down here, Zinny.
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It's two years of this disease. All of the symptoms are not there.
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But he is working to keep his CD4 count high
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and his viral level low so he can make his life better.
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But you can aggregate this and you can discover things about treatments.
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Look at this, 2,000 people almost, on Copaxone.
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These are patients currently on drugs,
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sharing data.
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I love some of these, physical exercise, prayer.
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Anyone want to run a comparative effectiveness study
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on prayer against something? Let's look at prayer.
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What I love about this, just sort of interesting design problems.
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These are why people pray.
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Here is the schedule of how frequently they -- it's a dose.
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So, anyone want to see the 32 patients that pray for 60 minutes a day,
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and see if they're doing better, they probably are.
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Here they are. It's an open network,
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everybody is sharing. We can see it all.
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Or, I want to look at anxiety, because people are praying for anxiety.
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And here is data on 15,000 people's current anxiety, right now.
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How they treat it,
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the drugs, the components of it,
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their side effects, all of it in a rich environment,
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and you can drill down and see the individuals.
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This amazing data allows us to drill down and see
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what this drug is for --
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1,500 people on this drug, I think. Yes.
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I want to talk to the 58 patients down here
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who are taking four milligrams a day.
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And I want to talk to the ones of those that have been doing
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it for more than two years.
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So, you can see the duration.
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All open, all available.
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I'm going to log in.
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And this is my brother's profile.
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And this is a new version of our platform we're launching right now.
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This is the second generation. It's going to be in Flash.
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And you can see here, as this animates over,
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Steven's actual data against the background of all other patients,
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against this information.
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The blue band is the 50th percentile. Steven is the 75th percentile,
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that he has non-genetic ALS.
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You scroll down in this profile and you can see
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all of his prescription drugs,
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but more than that, in the new version, I can look at this interactively.
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Wait, poor spinal capacity.
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Doesn't this remind you of a great stock program?
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Wouldn't it be great if the technology we used to take care of ourselves
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was as good as the technology we use to make money?
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Detrol. In the side effects for his drug,
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integrated into that, the stem cell transplant that he had,
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the first in the world, shared openly for anyone who wants to see it.
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I love here -- the cyberkinetics implant,
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which was, again, the only patient's data that was online and available.
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You can adjust the time scale. You can adjust the symptoms.
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You can look at the interaction between how I treat my ALS.
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So, you click down on the ALS tab there.
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I'm taking three drugs to manage it. Some of them are experimental.
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I can look at my constipation, how to manage it.
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I can see magnesium citrate, and the side effects
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from that drug all integrated in the time
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in which they're meaningful.
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But I want more.
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I don't want to just look at this cool device, I want to take this
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data and make something even better.
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I want my brother's center of the universe and his symptoms
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and his drugs,
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and all of the things that interact among those,
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the side effects, to be in this beautiful data galaxy
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that we can look at in any way we want to understand it,
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so that we can take this information
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and go beyond just this simple model
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of what a record is.
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I don't even know what a medical record is.
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I want to solve a problem. I want an application.
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So, can I take this data -- rearrange yourself,
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put the symptoms in the left, the drugs across the top,
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tell me everything we know about Steven and everyone else,
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and what interacts.
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Years after he's had these drugs,
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I learned that everything he did to manage his excess saliva,
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including some positive side effects that came from other drugs,
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were making his constipation worse.
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And if anyone's ever had severe constipation,
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and you don't understand how much of an impact that has on your life --
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yes, that was a pun.
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You're trying to manage these,
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and this grid is available here,
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and we want to understand it.
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No one's ever had this kind of information.
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So, patients have this. We're for patients.
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This is all about patient health care, there was no doctors on our network.
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This is about the patients.
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So, how can we take this and bring them a tool
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that they can go back and they can engage the medical system?
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And we worked hard, and we thought about it and we said,
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"What's something we can use all the time,
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that we can use in the medical care system,
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that everyone will understand?"
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So, the patients print it out,
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because hospitals usually block us
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because they believe we are a social network.
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It's actually the most used feature on the website.
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Doctors actually love this sheet, and they're actually really engaged.
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So, we went from this story of Steven
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and his history to data, and then back to paper,
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where we went back and engaged the medical care system.
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And here's another paper.
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This is a journal, PNAS --
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I think it's the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science
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of the United States of America.
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You've seen multiple of these today, when everyone's bragging about
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the amazing things they've done.
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This is a report about a drug called lithium.
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Lithium, that is a drug used to treat bipolar disorder,
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that a group in Italy found
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slowed ALS down in 16 patients, and published it.
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Now, we'll skip the critiques of the paper.
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But the short story is: If you're a patient,
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you want to be on the blue line.
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You don't want to be on the red line, you want to be on the blue line.
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Because the blue line is a better line. The red line
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is way downhill, the blue line is a good line.
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So, you know we said -- we looked at this, and what I love also
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is that people always accuse these Internet sites
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of promoting bad medicine and having people do things irresponsibly.
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So, this is what happened when PNAS published this.
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Ten percent of the people in our system took lithium.
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Ten percent of the patients started taking lithium based on 16 patients of data
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in a bad publication.
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And they call the Internet irresponsible.
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Here's the implication of what happens.
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There's this one guy, named Humberto, from Brazil,
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who unfortunately passed away nine months ago,
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who said, "Hey, listen. Can you help us answer this question?
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Because I don't want to wait for the next trial, it's going to be years.
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I want to know now. Can you help us?"
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So, we launched some tools, we let them track their blood levels.
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We let them share the data and exchange it.
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You know, a data network.
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And they said, you know, "Jamie, PLM,
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can you guys tell us whether this works or not?"
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And we went around and we talked to people,
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and they said, "You can't run a clinical trial like this. You know?
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You don't have the blinding, you don't have data,
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it doesn't follow the scientific method.
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It's never going to work. You can't do it."
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So, I said, "Okay well we can't do that. Then we can do something harder."
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(Laughter)
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I can't say whether lithium works in all ALS patients,
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but I can say whether it works in Humberto.
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I bought a Mac about two years ago, I converted over,
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and I was so excited about this new feature of the time machine
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that came in Leopard. And we said -- because it's really cool,
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you can go back and you can look at the entire history of your computer,
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and find everything you've lost, and I loved it.
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And I said, "What if we built a time machine for patients,
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except instead of going backwards, we go forwards.
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Can we find out what's going to happen to you,
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so that you can maybe change it?"
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So, we did. We took all the patients like Humberto,
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That's the Apple background, we stole that because we didn't have time
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to build our own. This is a real app by the way.
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This is not just graphics.
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And you take those data, and we find the patients like him, and we bring
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their data together. And we bring their histories into it.
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And then we say, "Well how do we line them all up?"
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So, we line them all up so they go together
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around the meaningful points,
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integrated across everything we know about the patient.
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Full information, the entire course of their disease.
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And that's what is going to happen to Humberto,
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unless he does something.
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And he took lithium, and he went down the line.
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And it works almost every time.
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Now, the ones that it doesn't work are interesting.
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But almost all the time it works.
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It's actually scary. It's beautiful.
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So, we couldn't run a clinical trial, we couldn't figure it out.
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But we could see whether it was going to work for Humberto.
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And yeah, all the clinicians in the audience will talk about power
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and all the standard deviation. We'll do that later.
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But here is the answer
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of the mean of the patients that actually decided
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to take lithium.
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These are all the patients that started lithium.
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It's the Intent to Treat Curve.
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You can see here, the blue dots on the top, the light ones,
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those are the people in the study in PNAS
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that you wanted to be on. And the red ones are the ones,
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the pink ones on the bottom are the ones you didn't want to be.
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And the ones in the middle are all of our patients
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from the start of lithium at time zero,
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going forward, and then going backward.
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So, you can see we matched them perfectly, perfectly.
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Terrifyingly accurate matching.
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And going forward, you actually don't want to be a lithium patient this time.
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You're actually doing slightly worse -- not significantly,
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but slightly worse. You don't want to be a lithium patient this time.
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But you know, a lot of people dropped out,
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the trial, there is too much drop out.
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Can we do the even harder thing? Can we go to the patients
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that actually decided to stay on lithium,
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because they were so convinced they were getting better?
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We asked our control algorithm,
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are those 69 patients -- by the way, you'll notice
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that's four times the number of patients in the clinical trial --
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can we look at those patients and say,
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"Can we match them with our time machine
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to the other patients that are just like them,
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and what happens?"
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Even the ones that believed they were getting better
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matched the controls exactly. Exactly.
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Those little lines? That's the power.
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So, we -- I can't tell you lithium doesn't work. I can't tell you
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that if you did it at a higher dose
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or if you run the study proper -- I can tell you
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that for those 69 people that took lithium,
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they didn't do any better than the people that were just like them,
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just like me,
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and that we had the power to detect that at about
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a quarter of the strengths reported in the initial study.
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We did that one year ahead of the time
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when the first clinical trial funded by the NIH
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for millions of dollars failed for futility last week,
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and announced it.
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So, remember I told you about my brother's stem cell transplant.
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I never really knew whether it worked.
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And I put 100 million cells in his cisterna magna,
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in his lumbar cord,
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and filled out the IRBs and did all this work,
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and I never really knew.
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How did I not know?
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I mean, I didn't know what was going to happen to him.
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I actually asked Tim, who is the quant in our group --
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we actually searched for about a year to find someone
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who could do the sort of math and statistics and modeling
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in healthcare, couldn't find anybody. So, we went to the finance industry.
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And there are these guys who used to model the future
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of interest rates, and all that kind of stuff.
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And some of them were available. So, we hired one.
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(Laughter)
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We hired them, set them up, assisting at lab.
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I I.M. him things. That's the way I communicate with him,
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is like a little guy in a box. I I.M.ed Tim. I said,
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"Tim can you tell me whether my brother's stem cell transplant
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worked or not?"
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And he sent me this two days ago.
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It was that little outliers there. You see that guy that lived a long time?
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We have to go talk to him. Because I'd like to know what happened.
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Because something went different.
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But my brother didn't. My brother went straight down the line.
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It only works about 12 months.
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It's the first version of the time machine.
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First time we ever tried it. We'll try to get it better later
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but 12 months so far.
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And, you know, I look at this,
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and I get really emotional.
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You look at the patients, you can drill in all the controls,
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you can look at them, you can ask them.
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And I found a woman that had --
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we found her, she was odd because she had data
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after she died.
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And her husband had come in and entered her last functional scores,
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because he knew how much she cared.
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And I am thankful.
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I can't believe that these people,
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years after my brother had died,
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helped me answer the question about whether
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an operation I did, and spent millions of dollars on
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years ago, worked or not.
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I wished it had been there
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when I'd done it the first time,
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and I'm really excited that it's here now,
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because the lab that I founded
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has some data on a drug that might work,
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and I'd like to show it.
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I'd like to show it in real time, now,
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and I want to do that for all of the diseases that we can do that for.
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I've got to thank the 45,000 people
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that are doing this social experiment with us.
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There is an amazing journey we are going on
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to become human again,
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to be part of community again,
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to share of ourselves, to be vulnerable,
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and it's very exciting. So, thank you.
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(Applause)
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