Eric Dishman: Take health care off the mainframe

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If you think about the phone --
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and Intel has tested
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a lot of the things I'm going to show you,
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over the last 10 years,
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in about 600 elderly households --
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300 in Ireland, and 300 in Portland --
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trying to understand: How do we measure
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and monitor behavior
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in a medically meaningful way?
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And if you think about the phone, right,
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it's something that we can use for some incredible ways
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to help people actually take the right medication at the right time.
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We're testing these kinds of simple
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sensor-network technologies in the home
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so that any phone that a senior is already comfortable with
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can help them deal with their medications.
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And a lot of what they do is they pick up the phone,
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and it's our system whispering to them which pill they need to take,
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and they fake like they're having a conversation with a friend.
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And they're not embarrassed by a meds caddy that's ugly,
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that sits on their kitchen table and says,
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"I'm old. I'm frail."
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It's surreptitious technology
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that's helping them do a simple task
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of taking the right pill at the right time.
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Now, we also do some pretty amazing things with these phones.
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Because that moment when you answer the phone
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is a cognitive test every time that you do it.
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Think about it, all right? I'm going to answer the phone three different times.
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"Hello? Hey."
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All right? That's the first time.
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"Hello? Uh, hey."
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"Hello? Uh, who?
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Oh, hey."
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All right? Very big differences
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between the way I answered the phone the three times.
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And as we monitor phone usage
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by seniors over a long period of time,
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down to the tenths of a microsecond,
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that recognition moment
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of whether they can figure out that person on the other end
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is a friend and we start talking to them immediately,
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or they do a lot of what's called trouble talk,
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where they're like, "Wait, who is this? Oh." Right?
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Waiting for that recognition moment
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may be the best early indicator of the onset of dementia
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than anything that shows up clinically today.
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We call these behavioral markers.
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There's lots of others. Is the person going to the phone
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as quickly, when it rings, as they used to?
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Is it a hearing problem or is it a physicality problem?
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Has their voice gotten more quiet? We're doing a lot of work with people
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with Alzheimer's and particularly with Parkinson's,
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where that quiet voice that sometimes shows up with Parkinson's patients
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may be the best early indicator
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of Parkinson's five to 10 years before it shows up clinically.
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But those subtle changes in your voice over a long period of time
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are hard for you or your spouse to notice until it becomes so extreme
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and your voice has become so quiet.
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So, sensors are looking at that kind of voice.
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When you pick up the phone,
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how much tremor are you having,
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and what is that like, and what is that trend like over a period of time?
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Are you having more trouble dialing the phone than you used to?
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Is it a dexterity problem? Is it the onset of arthritis?
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Are you using the phone? Are you socializing less than you used to?
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And looking at that pattern. And what does that decline in social health
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mean, as a kind of a vital sign of the future?
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And then wow, what a radical idea,
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we -- except in the United States --
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might be able to use this newfangled technology
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to actually interact with a nurse or a doctor on the other end of the line.
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Wow, what a great day that will be
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once we're allowed to actually do those kinds of things.
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So, these are what I would call behavioral markers.
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And it's the whole field that we've been trying to work on
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for the last 10 years at Intel.
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How do you put simple disruptive technologies,
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and the first of five phrases that I'm going to talk about in this talk?
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Behavioral markers matter.
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How do we change behavior?
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How do we measure changes in behavior
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in a meaningful way that's going to help us with
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prevention of disease, early onset of disease,
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and tracking the progression of disease over a long period of time?
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Now, why would Intel let me
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spend a lot of time and money, over the last 10 years,
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trying to understand the needs of seniors
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and start thinking about these kinds of behavioral markers?
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This is some of the field work that we've done.
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We have now lived with 1,000 elderly households
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in 20 countries over the last 10 years.
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We study people in Rochester, New York.
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We go live with them in the winter
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because what they do in the winter,
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and their access to healthcare, and how much they socialize,
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is very different than in the summer.
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If they have a hip fracture we go with them
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and we study their entire discharge experience.
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If they have a family member who is a key part of their care network,
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we fly and study them as well.
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So, we study the holistic health experience
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of 1,000 seniors over the last 10 years
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in 20 different countries.
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Why is Intel willing to fund that?
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It's because of the second slogan that I want to talk about.
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Ten years ago, when I started trying to convince Intel
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to let me go start looking at disruptive technologies
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that could help with independent living,
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this is what I called it: "Y2K + 10."
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You know, back in 2000,
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we were all so obsessed with paying attention
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to the aging of our computers,
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and whether or not they were going to survive
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the tick of the clock from 1999 to 2000,
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that we missed a moment that only demographers were paying attention to.
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It was right around New Years.
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And that switchover,
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when we had the larger number of older people on the planet,
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for the first time than younger people.
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For the first time in human history -- and barring aliens landing
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or some major other pandemic,
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that's the expectation from demographers, going forward.
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And 10 years ago it seemed like I had a lot of time
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to convince Intel to work on this. Right?
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Y2K + 10 was coming,
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the baby boomers starting to retire.
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Well folks, it's like we know these demographics here.
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This is a map of the entire world.
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It's like the lights are on,
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but nobody's home on this demographic
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Y2K + 10 problem. Right?
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I mean we sort of get it here, but we don't get it here,
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and we're not doing anything about it.
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The health reform bill is largely ignoring
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the realities of the age wave that's coming,
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and the implications for what we need to do to change
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not only how we pay for care,
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but deliver care in some radically different ways.
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And in fact, it's upon us.
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I mean you probably saw these headlines. This is Catherine Casey
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who is the first boomer to actually get Social Security.
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That actually occurred this year. She took early retirement.
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She was born one second after midnight in 1946.
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A retired school teacher,
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there she is with a Social Security administrator.
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The first boomer actually, we didn't even wait till 2011, next year.
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We're already starting to see early retirement occur this year.
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All right, so it's here. This Y2K + 10 problem is at our door.
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This is 50 tsunamis scheduled on the calendar,
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but somehow we can't sort of marshal our government
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and innovative forces to sort of get out in front of it
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and do something about it. We'll wait until
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it's more of a catastrophe, and react,
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as opposed to prepare for it.
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So, one of the reasons it's so
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challenging to prepare for this Y2K problem
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is, I want to argue, we have what I would call
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mainframe poisoning.
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Andy Grove, about six or seven years ago,
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he doesn't even know or remember this, in a Fortune Magazine article
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he used the phrase "mainframe healthcare,"
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and I've been extending and expanding this.
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He saw it written down somewhere. He's like, "Eric that's a really cool concept."
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I was like, "Actually it was your idea. You said it in a Fortune Magazine article.
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I just extended it."
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You know, this is the mainframe.
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This mentality of traveling to
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and timesharing large, expensive healthcare systems
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actually began in 1787.
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This is the first general hospital in Vienna.
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And actually the second general hospital in Vienna,
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in about 1850, was where we started to build out
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an entire curriculum for teaching med students specialties.
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And it's a place in which we started developing
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architecture that literally divided the body,
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and divided care into departments and compartments.
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And it was reflected in our architecture,
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it was reflected in the way that we taught students,
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and this mainframe mentality persists today.
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Now, I'm not anti-hospital.
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With my own healthcare problems, I've taken drug therapies,
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I've traveled to this hospital and others, many, many times.
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But we worship the high hospital on a hill. Right?
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And this is mainframe healthcare.
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And just as 30 years ago
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we couldn't conceive that we would have the power
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of a mainframe computer that took up a room this size
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in our purses and on our belts,
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that we're carrying around in our cell phone today,
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and suddenly, computing,
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that used to be an expert driven system,
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it was a personal system that we all owned as part of our daily lives --
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that shift from mainframe to personal computing
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is what we have to do for healthcare.
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We have to shift from this mainframe mentality of healthcare
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to a personal model of healthcare.
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We are obsessed with this way of thinking.
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When Intel does surveys all around the world and we say,
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"Quick response: healthcare."
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The first word that comes up is "doctor."
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The second that comes up is "hospital." And the third is "illness" or "sickness." Right?
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We are wired, in our imagination, to think about healthcare
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and healthcare innovation as something
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that goes into that place.
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Our entire health reform discussion right now,
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health I.T., when we talk with policy makers,
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equals "How are we going to get doctors using
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electronic medical records in the mainframe?"
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We're not thinking about
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how do we shift from the mainframe to the home.
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And the problem with this is
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the way we conceive healthcare. Right?
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This is a very reactive, crisis-driven system.
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We're doing 15-minute exams with patients.
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It's population-based.
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We collect a bunch of biological information in this artificial setting,
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and we fix them up, like Humpty-Dumpty all over again,
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and send them home,
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and hope -- we might hand them a brochure, maybe an interactive website --
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that they do as asked and don't come back into the mainframe.
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And the problem is we can't afford it today, folks.
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We can't afford mainframe healthcare today to include the uninsured.
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And now we want to do a double-double
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of the age wave coming through?
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Business as usual in healthcare is broken and we've got to do something different.
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We've got to focus on the home.
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We've got to focus on a personal healthcare paradigm
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that moves care to the home. How do we be more proactive,
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prevention-driven?
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How do we collect vital signs and other kinds of information 24 by 7?
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How do we get a personal baseline about what's going to work for you?
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How do we collect not just biological data
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but behavioral data, psychological data,
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relational data, in and on and around the home?
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And how do we drive compliance to be a customized care plan
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that uses all this great technology that's around us
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to change our behavior?
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That's what we need to do for our personal health model.
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I want to give you a couple of examples. This is Mimi
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from one of our studies --
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in her 90s, had to move out of her home
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because her family was worried about falls.
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Raise your hand if you had a serious fall
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in your household, or any of your loved ones,
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your parents or so forth. Right?
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Classic. Hip fracture often leads to institutionalization of a senior.
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This is what was happening to Mimi; the family was worried about it,
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moved her out of her own home into an assisted living facility.
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She tripped over her oxygen tank.
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Many people in this generation won't press the button,
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even if they have an alert call system, because they don't want to bother anybody,
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even though they've been paying 30 dollars a month.
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Boomers will press the button. Trust me.
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They're going to be pressing that button non-stop. Right?
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Mimi broke her pelvis, lay all night, all morning,
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finally somebody came in and found her,
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sent her to the hospital.
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They fixed her back up. She was never going to be able to move back
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into the assisted living. They put her into the nursing home unit.
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First night in the nursing home unit where she had been
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in the same assisted living facility, moved her from one bed to another,
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kind of threw her, rebroke her pelvis,
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sent her back to the hospital that she had just come from,
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no one read the chart, put her on Tylenol,
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which she is allergic to, broke out, got bedsores,
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basically, had heart problems, and died
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from the fall and the complications and the errors that were there.
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Now, the most frightening thing about this is
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this is my wife's grandmother.
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Now, I'm Eric Dishman. I speak English,
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I work for Intel, I make a good salary,
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I'm smart about falls and fall-related injuries --
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it's an area of research that I work on.
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I have access to senators and CEOs.
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I can't stop this from happening.
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What happens if you don't have money, you don't speak English
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or don't have the kind of access
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to deal with these kinds of problems that inevitably occur?
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How do we actually prevent the vast majority of falls
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from ever occurring in the first place?
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Let me give you a quick example of work that we're doing
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to try to do exactly that.
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I've been wearing a little technology that we call Shimmer.
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It's a research platform.
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It has accelerometry. You can plug in a three-lead ECG.
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There is all kinds of sort of plug-and-play
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kind of Legos that you can do to capture, in the wild,
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in the real world,
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things like tremor, gait,
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stride length and those kinds of things.
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The problem is, our understanding of falls today,
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like Mimi, is get a survey in the mail three months after you fell,
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from the State, saying, "What were you doing when you fell?"
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That's sort of the state of the art.
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But with something like Shimmer, or we have something called the Magic Carpet,
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embedded sensors in carpet, or camera-based systems
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that we borrowed from sports medicine,
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we're starting for the first time in those 600 elderly households
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to collect actual kinematic motion data
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to understand: What are the subtle changes that are occurring
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that can show us that mom has become risk at falls?
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And most often we can do two interventions,
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fix the meds mix.
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I'm a qualitative researcher, but when I look at these data streams coming in
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from these homes, I can look at the data and tell you the day
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that some doctor prescribed them something that nobody else
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knew that they were on, because we see the changes
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in their patterns in the household. Right?
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These discoveries of behavioral markers,
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and behavioral changes
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are game changing, and like the discovery of the microscope
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because of our collecting data streams that we've actually never done before.
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This is an example in our TRIL Clinic in Ireland
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of -- actually what you're seeing is
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she's looking at data,
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in this picture, from the Magic Carpet.
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So, we have a little carpet that you can look at your amount of postural sway,
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and look at the changes in your postural sway over many months.
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Here's what some of this data might look like.
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This is actually sensor firings.
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These are two different subjects in our study.
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It's about a year's worth of data.
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The color represents different rooms they are in the house.
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This person on the left is living in their own home.
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This person on the right is actually living in an assisted living facility.
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I know this because look at how punctuated meal time is
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when they are no longer in their particular rooms here. Right?
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Now, this doesn't mean that much to you.
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But when we look at these cycles of data
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over a longer period of time -- and we're looking at everything from
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motion around different rooms in the house,
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to sort of micro-motions that Shimmer picks up,
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about gait and stride length -- these streams of data
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are starting to tell us things about behavioral patterns
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that we've never understood before.
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You can go to ORCATech.org --
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it has nothing to do with whales, it's the Oregon Center for Aging and Technology --
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to see more about that.
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The problem is, Intel is still one of the largest
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funders in the world
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of independent living technology research.
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I'm not bragging about how much we fund;
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it's how little anyone else actually pays attention
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to aging and funds innovation on aging,
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chronic disease management and independent living in the home.
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So, my mantra here, my fourth slogan is:
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10,000 households or bust.
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We need to drive
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a national, if not international, Framingham-type heart study
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of independent living technologies,
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where we have 10,000 elderly connected households
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with broadband, full medical characterization,
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and a platform by which we can start to experiment
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and turn these from 20-household anecdotal studies
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that the universities fund,
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to large clinical trials that prove out the value of these technologies.
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So, 10,000 households or bust.
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These are just some of the households that we've done in the Intel studies.
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My fifth and final phrase:
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I have tried for two years,
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and there were moments when we were quite close,
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to make this healthcare reform bill be about reform
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from something and to something,
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from a mainframe model
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to a personal health model,
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or to mean something more than just a debate
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about the public option and how we're going to finance.
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It doesn't matter how we finance healthcare.
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We're going to figure something out
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for the next 10 years, and try it.
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No matter who pays for it,
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we better start doing care in a fundamentally different way
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and treating the home and the patient
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and the family member and the caregivers
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as part of these coordinated care teams
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and using disruptive technologies that are already here
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to do care in some pretty fundamental different ways.
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The president needs to stand up and say,
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at the end of a healthcare reform debate,
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"Our goal as a country is to move 50 percent of care
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out of institutions, clinics, hospitals and nursing homes,
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to the home, in 10 years."
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It's achievable. We should do it economically,
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we should do it morally,
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and we should do it for quality of life.
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But there is no goal within this health reform.
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It's just a mess today.
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So, you know, that's my last message to you.
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How do we set a going-to-the-moon goal
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of dealing with the Y2K +10 problem that's coming?
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It's not that innovation and technology is going to be the
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magic pill that cures all, but it's going to be part of the solution.
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And if we don't create a personal health movement,
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something that we're all aiming towards in reform,
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then we're going to move nowhere.
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So, I hope you'll turn this conference into that kind of movement forward.
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Thanks very much.
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(Applause)
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