Karen Eber: How your brain responds to stories -- and why they're crucial for leaders | TED
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Transcriber: Ivana Korom
Reviewer: Joanna Pietrulewicz
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審譯者: Helen Chang
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Maria walked into the elevator at work.
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瑪莉亞走進工作場所的電梯。
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She went to press the button
when her phone fell out of her hand.
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她去按按鈕時,手機從手上掉落。
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It bounced on the floor and --
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手機在地上彈了一下,然後——
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went straight down that little opening
between the elevator and the floor.
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直接掉進了電梯和樓層之間的縫隙。
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And she realized it wasn't just her phone,
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她發現,掉的不只是她的手機,
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it was her phone wallet
that had her driver's license,
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還有她的手機卡夾,
裡面有她的駕照,
她的信用卡,她的整個人生。
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her credit card, her whole life.
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She went to the front desk
to talk to Ray, the security guard.
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她跑去櫃檯找警衛,雷。
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Ray was really happy to see her.
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雷很高興見到她。
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Maria is one of the few people
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瑪莉亞是少數每天都會
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that actually stops
and says hello to him each day.
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停下來和他打招呼的人之一。
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In fact, she's one of these people
that knows your birthday
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事實上,她是屬於那種
會記住你的生日、
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and your favorite food,
and your last vacation,
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你喜歡吃什麼、
你上次何時休假的人,
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not because she's weird,
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她不是怪人,
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she just genuinely likes people
and likes them to feel seen.
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她就是真的很喜歡人,
喜歡讓別人感覺被看見了。
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She tells Ray what happened,
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她告訴雷發生了什麼事,
雷說至少要花五百美金
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and he said it's going to cost
at least 500 dollars
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to get her phone back
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才能把手機撿回來。
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and he goes to get a quote
while she goes back to her desk.
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當她返回座位時,他則去要報價。
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Twenty minutes later,
he calls her and he says, "Maria,
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二十分鐘後,他打電話給她,
他說:「瑪莉亞,
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I was looking at the inspection
certificate in the elevator.
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我剛看到電梯的檢查證明,
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It's actually due for its annual
inspection next month.
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下個月就要做年度檢查了。
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I'm going to go ahead
and call that in today
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我今天就去請人來做檢查,
你就能不花一毛把手機拿回來。
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and we'll be able to get your phone back
and it won't cost you anything."
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01:27
The same day this happened,
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發生這件事的同一天,
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I read an article about the CEO
of Charles Schwab, Walter Bettinger.
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我讀到一篇文章,談到嘉信
理財集團的執行長華特·貝汀傑。
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He's describing his straight-A
career at university
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他說到,他的全優大學生涯
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going in to his last exam
expecting to ace it,
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進入到最後一次考試,他信心滿滿,
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when the professor gives one question:
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而教授丟出了一個問題:
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"What is the name of the person
that cleans this room?"
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「打掃這間教室的人叫什麼名字?」
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And he failed the exam.
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他考試沒過。
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He had seen her,
but he had never met her before.
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他見過打掃的人,
但從來沒有認識過她。
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Her name was Dottie
and he made a vow that day
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她叫做朵提,而他那天發了誓,
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to always know the Dotties in his life
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一定要認識他人生中所有的朵提,
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because both Walter and Maria
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因為華特和瑪莉亞
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understand this power
of helping people feel seen,
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都了解這種讓別人被看見的力量,
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especially as a leader.
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特別是他們身為領導者。
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I used that story back when I worked
at General Electric.
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我在奇異(GE)工作時
用過那個故事。
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I was responsible for shaping culture
in a business of 90,000 employees
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我負責幫這間有九萬
員工的企業形塑文化,
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in 150 countries.
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它是跨一百五十國的企業。
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And I found that stories
were such a great way
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而我發現,說故事是很棒的方法,
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to connect with people
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可以和人連結,
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and have them think,
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並讓他們去思考:
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"What would I do in this situation?
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「換成是我在這個情況會怎麼做?
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Would I have known Dottie
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我會認識朵提嗎?或我人生中
該認識的朵提是誰?」
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or who are the Dotties
I need to know in my life?"
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02:30
I found that no matter people's gender
or their generation
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我發現,對任何人,
不論性別、世代,
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or their geography in the world,
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或身在世界的哪個地方,
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the stories resonated and worked.
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故事都能產生共鳴且行得通。
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But in my work with leaders,
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但在我的工作中,我發現
領導人通常會對說故事過敏。
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I've also found they tend
to be allergic to telling stories.
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They're not sure where to find them,
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他們不確定要到哪裡找故事,
或不確定該怎麼說故事,
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or they're not sure how to tell them,
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或者他們認為他們得要呈現資料,
就沒有任何空間可以說故事了。
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or they think they have to present data
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and that there's just
not room to tell a story.
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And that's where I want to focus today.
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那就是我今天要談的重點。
因為說故事和資料並沒有那麼互斥,
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Because storytelling and data
is actually not this either-or.
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It's an "and," they actually
create this power ballad
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它們可以共存,且能
創造出一種抒情搖滾,
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that connects you
to information differently.
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用不同的方式讓你和資訊連結。
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To understand how,
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若要了解怎麼發生的,
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we have to first understand
what happens neurologically
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我們得要先了解,當你在
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when you're listening to a story and data.
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聽故事和資料時的神經運作方式。
當你在聽授課或在會議中時,
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So as you're in a lecture
or you're in a meeting,
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two small parts of your brain
are activated,
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你的大腦中有兩小部分會被啟動,
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Wernicke and Broca's area.
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韋尼克區和布洛卡區。
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This is where you're
processing information,
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它們負責處理資訊,
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and it's also why you tend
to forget 50 percent of it
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也是你聽到資訊之後通常
馬上就會忘掉 50% 的原因。
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right after you hear it.
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When you listen to a story,
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當你聽故事時,
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your entire brain starts to light up.
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你的整個大腦都會開始亮起來。
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Each of your lobes will light up
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所有腦葉都會亮起來,
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as your senses and your
emotions are engaged.
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因為你的感官和情緒都參與了。
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As I talk about a phone falling
and hitting the ground with a thud
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當我說到手機掉到地上砰了一聲,
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your occipital and your temporal
lobes are lighting up
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你的枕葉和顳葉會亮起來,
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as though you are actually
seeing that falling phone
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就好像你真的看到了手機落地,
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and hearing it hit with a thud.
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且聽見了砰的一聲。
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There's this term, neural coupling,
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有個詞叫做「神經耦合」,
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which says, as the listener,
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意思是說,身為聽者,
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your brain will light up exactly as mine
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你的大腦亮起來的狀況
會和我,說故事的人完全一樣。
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as the storyteller.
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It mirrors this activity
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它會反應出這個活動,
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as though you are actually
experiencing these things.
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就好像你真的經歷了這些事。
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Storytelling gives you
this artificial reality.
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說故事能帶給你這種人造實境。
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If I talked to you about, like,
walking through the snow
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如果你告訴你,比如,在雪中走路,
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and with each step,
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隨著每一步,
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the snow is crunching under my shoes,
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雪都在我的鞋子下嘎吱作響,
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and big, wet flakes
are falling on my cheeks,
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又大又濕的雪花落在我的臉頰上,
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your brains are now lighting up
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你的大腦現在亮起來的狀況
就好似你在雪中走路,
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as though you are walking through the snow
and experiencing these things.
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經歷這一切。
這就是為什麼你坐著看一場
動作片時,你明明沒有動,
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It's why you can sit in an action movie
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and not be moving,
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but your heart is racing
as though you're the star on-screen
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但你的心跳加速,
好似你就是銀幕上的明星,
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because this neural coupling
has your brain lighting up
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因為神經耦合讓你的
大腦亮起來的方式,
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as though you are having that activity.
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正如同你在進行那項活動。
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As you listen to stories,
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當你在聽故事時,
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you automatically gain empathy
for the storyteller.
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你會自動對說故事的人產生同理心。
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The more empathy you experience,
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你感受到越大的同理心,
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the more oxytocin
is released in your brain.
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你的大腦釋放的催產素就越多。
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Oxytocin is the feel-good chemical
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催產素是種感覺很好的化學物質,
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and the more oxytocin you have,
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你的催產素越多,
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the more trustworthy
you actually view the speaker.
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你就會越覺得講者值得信任。
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This is why storytelling
is such a critical skill for a leader
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這就是為什麼對領導者而言
說故事是很重要的技能,
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because the very act of telling a story
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因為光是說故事這個動作,
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makes people trust you more.
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就能讓別人更相信你。
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As you begin to listen to data,
some different things happen.
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當你開始聽資料時,
會發生的狀況就不同。
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There are some misconceptions
to understand.
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有些錯誤觀念,讓我說明一下。
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And the first is that data
doesn't change our behavior,
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首先,資料不會改變我們的行為,
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emotions do.
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情緒才會。
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If data changed our behavior,
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如果資料會改變行為,
那我們早就每天都會睡滿八小時、
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we would all sleep eight hours
and exercise and floss daily
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做運動、用牙線、喝八杯水。
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and drink eight glasses of water.
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But that's not how we actually decide.
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但我們不是這樣做決定的。
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Neuroscientists have studied
decision-making,
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神經科學家研究了決策,
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and it starts in our amygdala.
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決策從杏仁核開始。
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This is our emotional epicenter
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那是我們的情緒中心,
讓我們能夠感受到情緒,
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where we have the ability
to experience emotions
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且我們的決策是從
潛意識層級就開始了。
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and it's here at a subconscious level
where we begin to decide.
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We make choices to pursue pleasure
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我們會選擇去追求愉悅或避開風險,
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or to avoid risk,
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all before we become aware of it.
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在我們意識到之前就選擇了。
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At the point we become aware,
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當我們意識到時,
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where it comes to the conscious level,
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決策來到意識層級,
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we start to apply
rationalization and logic,
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我們會開始運用合理化和邏輯,
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which is why we think we're making
these rationally-based decisions,
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這就是為什麼我們會認為
我們是根據理性在做決策,
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not realizing that they were
already decided in our subconscious.
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卻不知道其實在潛意識中
就已經決定好了。
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Antonio Damasio is a neuroscientist
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神經科學家安東尼·奧達馬西奧
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that started to study patients
that had damage to their amygdala.
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開始研究杏仁核受損的病人。
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Fully functioning in every way,
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在各方面的功能都完全正常,
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except they could not experience emotions.
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除了他們感受不到情緒。
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And as a result,
they could not make decisions.
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結果,他們就無法做決策。
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Something as simple as
"do I go this way or this way"
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簡單到如「我要走
這條路還是那條路」
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they were incapable of doing,
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他們也無法決定,
就因為他們感受不到情緒。
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because they could not
experience emotions.
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These were people
that were wildly successful
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這些人在杏仁核受損之前
都是各方面十分成功的人士,
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before they had the damage
to their amygdala
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and now they couldn't complete
any of their projects
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現在他們卻無法完成任何專案,
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and their careers took big hits,
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他們的職涯受到重挫,
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all because they couldn't experience
emotions where we decide.
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全都是因為他們無法感受到情緒,
即我們做決策的地方。
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Another data misconception.
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還有一個關於資料的錯誤觀念。
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Data never speaks for itself.
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資料從來就不會不言自明。
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Our brains love to anticipate
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我們的大腦喜愛做預期,
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and as we anticipate,
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當我們做預期時,會把
所見所聞中的空白處填補起來,
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we fill in the gaps
on what we're seeing or hearing
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with our own knowledge and experience
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用我們自己的知識經歷來填補,
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and our own bias.
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還有我們的偏見。
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Which means my understanding of data
is going to differ from yours,
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意即,我對資料的理解
會和你的不一樣,
也和你的不一樣。
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and it's going to differ from yours,
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because we're all going to have
our own interpretation
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因為如果沒有方法來引導我們的話,
我們都會有我們自己的詮釋。
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if there isn't a way to guide us through.
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Now I'm not suggesting
that data is bad and story is good.
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我並不是在說資料不好、故事才好。
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They both play a key role.
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它們都扮演關鍵的角色。
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And to understand how,
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要了解怎麼做到,你就得了解
好故事的元素是什麼。
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you have to see what makes a great story.
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It's going to answer three questions.
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好故事能回答三個問題:
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The first is:
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第一個問題:
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What is the context?
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情境是什麼?
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Meaning, what's the setting,
who is involved,
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意即:背景是什麼?相關的人有誰?
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why should I even care?
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關我什麼事?
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What is the conflict,
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衝突點是什麼?
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where is that moment
where everything changes?
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一切都改變的時點是什麼時候?
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And what is the outcome?
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結果是什麼?
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Where is it different,
what is the takeaway?
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有什麼不同?要聽者
帶走的訊息是什麼?
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A good story also has three attributes,
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好故事也有三個特徵。
第一,它會建造張力再釋放張力。
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the first being it is going to build
and release tension.
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07:54
So because our brains love to anticipate,
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因為我們的大腦喜歡做預期,
07:57
a great story builds tension
by making you wonder:
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好故事建立張力的方式是讓你好奇:
08:00
"Where is she going with this?"
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「她這樣做到底是要幹嘛?」
08:03
"What's happening next," right?
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「接下來會發生什麼事?」
08:05
A good story keeps you,
keeps your attention going.
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對吧?好故事能讓你保持注意力。
08:09
And it releases it
by sharing something unexpected
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它釋放張力的方式,
是分享未預期的事物,
在整個故事中會一次又一次這麼做。
08:12
and it does this over and over
throughout the story.
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08:15
A great story also builds an idea.
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好故事也會建立想法。
08:18
It helps you see something
that you can no longer unsee,
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它能讓你看到你將無法
再忽視的事情。
08:22
leaving you changed,
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因為故事真的會讓你就此改變。
08:23
because stories actually
do leave you changed.
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08:27
And a great story communicates value.
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好故事也會傳遞價值觀。
08:30
Stanford has done research
on one of the best ways
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史丹佛做過研究,探討形塑
組織文化最佳的方式之一,
08:32
to shape organizational culture,
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08:34
and it is storytelling,
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就是說故事,因為它能展示出
你重視什麼、鼓勵什麼,
08:36
because it's going to demonstrate
what you value and encourage
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08:39
or what you don't value
and what you discourage.
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或者你不重視什麼、不鼓勵什麼。
08:43
As you start to write your power ballad,
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當你開始寫你的抒情搖滾歌曲,
08:46
most people want to start with the data.
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大部分人會從資料著手。
08:49
They want to dig in,
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他們想埋頭挖掘,因為
我們通常都有一堆資料。
08:50
because we often have piles of data.
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08:53
But there's a common mistake
we make when we do that.
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但當我們這麼做時,
會犯一個常見的錯誤。
08:57
I was working with a CEO.
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我曾經和一名執行長合作。
08:59
She came to me to prepare
for her annual company-wide meeting
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她來找我協助她準備
公司的年度大會,
09:02
and she had 45 slides of data
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她有四十五張投影片都是資料,
09:05
for a 45-minute presentation.
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簡報時間是四十五分鐘。
09:08
A recipe for a boring, unmemorable talk.
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這個配方絕對能做出一場
無聊、無記憶點的演說。
09:11
And this is what most people do,
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而大部分人都這麼做,
09:13
they come armed with all of this data
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他們帶來一大堆資料,
試著想辦法整理出一條路,
09:15
and they try to sort their way through
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卻沒有全局遠景,
09:18
without a big picture
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09:19
and then they lose their way.
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接著就迷失了。
09:22
We actually put the data aside
and I asked her,
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我們把資料丟到一旁,我問她:
09:25
"What's the problem
you're trying to solve?
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「你想要解決的問題是什麼?
09:27
What do you want people
to think and feel different
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你希望大家的想法
和感受有什麼改變?
09:30
and what do you want people
to do different at the end of this?"
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在這結束之後,你希望
大家的做法有什麼改變?」
09:33
That is where you start
with data and storytelling.
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你的資料和說故事
都應該從這裡開始。
09:35
You come up with this framework
to guide the way through
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先提出這個架構
來引導資料和故事的方向,
09:39
both the story and the data.
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09:41
In her case,
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在她的例子中,
09:42
she wants her company
to be able to break into new markets,
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她希望她的公司能打入
新市場,以維持競爭力。
09:45
to remain competitive.
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09:47
She ended up telling a story
about her daughter,
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最後,她說了關於她女兒的故事,
09:49
who's a gymnast who's competing
for a scholarship,
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她是體操運動員,在爭取獎學金,
09:52
and she had to learn new routines
with increasing difficulty
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她得學習越來越難的新套路,
才能保持競爭力。
09:55
to be competitive.
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09:57
This is one of your choices.
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你可以選擇。
09:59
Do you tell a story about the data itself
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你可以說關於資料本身的故事,
10:02
or do you tell a parallel story,
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你也可以說個比擬的故事,
從故事中拉出重點,
10:04
where you pull out points from the story
to reinforce the data?
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來強調你的資料。
10:09
As you begin this ballad,
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當你開始寫這首歌曲,
10:11
this melody and harmony of data
and storytelling come together
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資料和說故事的弦律
及和諧感會結合在一起,
10:15
in a way that will stay
with you long after.
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在很久之後還會讓你難以忘懷。
10:19
Briana was a college adviser.
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布里安娜是升學顧問。
10:24
And she was asked to present
to her university leadership
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她被要求向她所屬大學的
領導階層做簡報,因為她發現
10:27
when she realized that a large population
of their students with autism
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該學校的自閉症學生
大部分沒有畢業。
10:31
were not graduating.
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10:33
She came to me because
her leaders kept saying,
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她來找我是因為她的上司不斷說:
10:35
"Present the data, focus on the data,"
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「呈現資料,把焦點放在資料上。」
10:37
but she felt like university officials
already had the data.
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但她覺得大學高層的人
已經有資料了。
10:41
She was trying to figure out
how to help them connect with it.
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她在想要怎麼讓這些人和資料連結。
10:44
So we worked together to help her
tell the story about Michelle.
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所以我們一起想辦法,
讓她講述了關於蜜雪兒的故事。
10:49
Michelle was a straight-A
student in high school
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蜜雪兒在高中時各項成績
都很優,夢想著要上大學。
10:51
who had these dreams
of going to university.
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10:54
Michelle was also a student with autism
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蜜雪兒也是有自閉症的學生,
10:57
who was terrified about how
she would be able to navigate
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她非常擔心
她要如何處理大學帶來的改變。
11:00
the changes of university.
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11:02
Her worst fears came true
on her first phone call
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在她和升學顧問初次通電話時,
她最糟糕的夢魘成真了,
11:05
with her adviser,
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11:06
when he asked her questions like,
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因為他問了她像這樣的問題:
11:09
"Where do you see yourself in five years?"
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「你期望你五年後變成怎樣的人?」
11:11
and "What are your career aspirations?"
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「你對職涯有什麼抱負?」
11:14
Questions that are hard for anybody.
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任何人都會覺得這些問題很難答。
11:18
But for a person with autism
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但要求自閉症患者
11:20
to have to respond to verbally?
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要用口頭回答這些問題?
11:23
Paralyzing.
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他們只會目瞪口呆。
11:25
She got off the phone,
was ready to drop out,
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她掛了電話,準備退學,
11:27
until her parents sat down with her
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直到她的父母和她一起坐下來,
11:29
and helped her write an email
to her adviser.
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協助她寫一封信給她的升學顧問。
11:32
She told him that she was
a student with autism,
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她告訴顧問,她是有自閉症的學生,
11:35
which was really hard for her to share
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她很難說出這件事,
11:37
because she felt like there was a stigma
associated just by sharing that.
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因為她覺得,光是說出來,
就可能會扯上汙名。
11:42
She told him that she preferred
to communicate in writing,
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她告訴顧問,她比較希望
能用書寫的方式來溝通,
11:44
if he could send her questions in advance,
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如果他能先把問題寄給她,
11:47
she would be able
to send replies back to him
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她就能把答案回覆給他,
11:49
before they got on the phone
to have a different conversation.
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然後他們再來通電話,
進行不同的談話。
11:53
He followed her lead
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他照她的意思做了,
11:55
and within a few weeks,
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幾週之內,他們發現
他們有許多共同點,
11:56
they found all of these things
they have in common,
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11:58
like a love for Japanese anime.
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比如他們都愛日本動畫。
12:01
After three semesters,
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三個學期之後,
12:03
Michelle is a straight-A student
thriving in the university.
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蜜雪兒成為大學裡
各項成績頂尖的出色學生。
12:08
At this point, Briana starts
to share some of the data
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此時,布里安娜開始分享一些資料,
12:11
that less than 20 percent
of the students with autism
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資料指出自閉症學生
只有不到兩成能夠畢業。
12:14
are graduating.
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12:16
And it's not because
they can't handle the coursework.
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且原因不是因為他們
無法應付課程作業。
12:19
It's because they can't figure out
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原因是他們不知道
要如何面對大學生活,
12:20
how to navigate the university,
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12:22
the very thing an adviser
is supposed to be able to help you do.
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而這不就正是升學顧問
應該要協助的事情嗎?
12:27
That over the course of a lifetime
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以一輩子的時間來算,
12:29
the earning potential of someone
with a college degree
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有大學學位可能賺到的收入
12:32
over a high school degree
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比高中學位高了一百萬美金。
12:34
is a million dollars.
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12:35
Which is a big amount.
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這金額很大。
12:37
But for a person with autism
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但對一個想要脫離家庭
獨立生活的自閉症患者而言,
12:38
that wants to be able
to live independent from their family
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12:41
it's life changing.
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這能改變人生。
12:44
She closed with,
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她最後的收尾是:
12:45
"We say our whole passion and purpose
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「我們說我們的熱忱和目的
12:48
is to help people be their best,
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是要協助大家變成最好的
自己,協助他們成功。
12:50
to help them be successful.
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12:52
But we're hardly giving our best service
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但我們沒有提供我們最好的服務,
12:54
by applying this
one-size-fits-all approach
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用的是「一招適用所有人」的
方法,只的讓大家被忽視。
12:56
and just letting people
fall through the cracks.
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12:59
We can and we should do better.
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我們能、我們應該做得更好。
還有很多像蜜雪兒這樣的人,
13:01
There are more Michelles out there,
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13:02
and I know because
Michelle is my daughter."
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我知道,因為蜜雪兒是我女兒。」
13:06
And in that moment,
the jaws in the room went --
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在那一刻,在場所有人的下巴都——
13:10
And someone even wiped away tears,
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甚至有人在拭淚,因為她辦到了,
13:12
because she had done it,
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13:13
she had connected them
to information differently,
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她用不同的方式讓他們
和資訊產生連結,
13:16
she helped them see something
they couldn't unsee.
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她讓他們看見了
他們將無法再忽視的事情。
13:19
Could she have done that with data alone?
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只靠資料能做到這樣嗎?
13:22
Maybe, but the things is,
they already had the data.
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也許,但重點是,
這些人本來就有資料了。
13:25
They didn't have a reason
not to overlook the data this time.
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但這次,他們沒有理由
不再去好好看資料。
13:30
That is the power
of storytelling and data.
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那就是說故事和資料的力量。
13:34
That together, they come
together in this way
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把兩者用這種方式整合在一起,
13:36
to help build ideas,
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能協助建立想法,協助你看見
你將無法再忽視的事情。
13:38
to help you see things you can't unsee.
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13:40
To help communicate what's valued
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協助溝通什麼才是重要的,
13:42
and to help tap into
that emotional way that we all decide.
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協助深入到我們靠情緒決策的方式。
13:46
As you all move forward,
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當各位以領導者的身分向前邁進,
為他人形塑熱忱和目的時,
13:48
shaping the passion and purpose
of others as leaders,
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13:51
don't just use data.
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別只靠資料。
13:53
Use stories.
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要用故事。
13:55
And don't wait for the perfect story.
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且別坐著等完美的故事出現。
13:57
Take your story and make it perfect.
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用你的故事,把它變完美。
13:59
Thank you.
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謝謝。
14:00
(Applause)
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