Why Broken Hearts Hurt — and What Heals Them | Yoram Yovell | TED

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譯者: 麗玲 辛
00:04
I'm Yoram Youvel.
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我是尤拉姆·尤維爾 (Yoram Youvel)。
00:05
I'm a psychiatrist and neuroscientist at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
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我是耶路撒冷希伯來大學的 精神科醫師和神經科學家。
00:10
And when I was 14 years old, my father died.
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在我 14 歲的時候, 我父親過世了。
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I was sitting in class
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我那時正在上課,
00:16
when my mother and my grandfather knocked on the door
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突然我媽媽和爺爺敲門,
00:19
and asked me out to the corridor.
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把我叫到走廊上。
00:23
"Your father's very sick," my mother said.
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「你爸爸病得很重」,媽媽說。
00:26
"Your father is dead."
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「你爸爸過世了。」
00:29
And then I felt it.
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然後我感受到了一陣劇痛,
00:30
A crushing pain in my chest.
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一種胸口被壓迫的痛。
00:34
I can still feel a glimpse of it whenever I think of my father.
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我至今仍能在回憶起父親時 感受到一絲那時的痛楚。
00:38
He was a doctor, a scientist, a paratrooper.
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他是一位醫生、 一位科學家、一名傘兵。
00:42
He was a young, strong, happy, healthy man.
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他年輕、強壯、快樂、健康。
00:46
He was my hero.
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他是我的英雄,
00:48
And his death broke my heart.
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而他的去世讓我心碎。
00:52
Do you remember the pain you felt when someone broke your heart?
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你是否記得當某人 讓你心碎時的痛楚?
00:58
When your best friend or your mother died?
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當你最好的朋友或母親去世時?
01:02
Or the man you loved told you that he doesn't love you anymore.
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或者當你愛的人告訴你 他不再愛你時?
01:07
You probably do.
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你大概還記得吧。
01:10
But why do we feel mental pain at all?
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但是為什麼我們會感受到 精神上的痛苦呢?
01:15
And what's the relationship between physical and mental pain?
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而身體痛苦和精神痛苦 之間的關係是什麼呢?
01:20
And most importantly, how can we make mental pain better?
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最重要的是,我們如何減輕精神痛苦?
01:26
Together with many scientists and physicians,
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我和許多科學家和醫生
01:29
I spent years searching for answers to these questions.
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一起花了多年時間 尋找這些問題的答案。
01:34
Now, growing up, I never heard the words,
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成長過程中,我從未聽到過
01:38
"We want you to be a doctor and a brain scientist like your father."
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「我們希望你成為像你父親一樣的 醫生和腦科學家」這樣的話。
01:41
But somehow that's what happened.
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但不知怎麼的,這確實發生了。
01:47
Twelve years after my father died,
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在我父親去世十二年後,
01:48
I was a graduate student at Dr. Eric Kandel’s lab
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我成為了哥倫比亞大學埃里克·坎德爾 (Eric Kandel) 博士實驗室的研究生。
01:51
at Columbia University.
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01:54
Eric, who won the Nobel Prize
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埃里克因為在記憶的 分子基礎研究方面的工作
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for his work on the molecular basis of memory,
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而獲得了諾貝爾獎,
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was the ultimate mentor.
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他是最好的導師,
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Passionate, energetic and inspiring.
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充滿熱情、精力和啟發。
02:04
Under his guidance, I studied a receptor.
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在他的指導下,我研究了一種受體,
02:06
It's a protein that's part of a synapse.
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這種蛋白質是突觸的一部分。
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And synapses are structures through which nerve cells communicate with each other.
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突觸是神經細胞之間相互交流的結構。
02:14
Now that receptor was a GPCR.
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那個受體是一種 GPCR,
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That's a G protein coupled receptor.
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即 G 蛋白耦合受體。
02:20
I'll explain what this means in a minute
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我會稍後解釋這是什麼意思,
02:22
and then you'll understand what this stack of markers is doing here.
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然後你會明白為什麼 會有這堆筆放在這裡。
02:28
And when I did that,
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當我在研究那個受體時,
02:32
I didn't really realize that work on that receptor,
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我並沒有意識到,
這項研究似乎與我未來 作為臨床精神科醫師的工作毫不相關,
02:36
which seemed completely unrelated to my future work
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02:39
as a clinical psychiatrist,
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02:41
would one day help us in our search for better treatments
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但後來它卻幫助我們尋找
治療身體和精神痛苦更好的方法。
02:45
for physical and mental pain.
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02:48
Now a big step along that way was the work of Jaak Panksepp,
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在這條路上,一個重要的進展是 我另一位偉大的科學導師
賈克·潘克賽普 (Jaak Panksepp) 的研究。
02:53
my other great scientific mentor.
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02:55
In a classical experiment,
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在一個經典實驗中,
02:57
Panksepp separated puppies from their mothers for 15 minutes.
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潘克賽普將小狗與它們的母親 分開 15 分鐘。
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Never more than that because he loved animals.
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他從不超過這個時間,因為他愛動物。
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When puppies lose their mothers,
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當小狗失去母親時,
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they make a sound which is called the separation distress cry.
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它們會發出一種叫做分離痛苦的叫聲。
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And it goes like this.
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這叫聲是這樣的
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(Imitates puppy wailing)
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(模仿小狗的叫聲)。
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Puppies do it,
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小狗會這樣,
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kittens do it, babies do it.
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貓咪會這樣,嬰兒也會這樣。
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All young mammals do it
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所有的年幼哺乳動物在痛苦 或思念母親時都會這樣叫。
03:22
when they're in pain or when they miss their mothers.
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03:25
And we all know how this cry makes us feel inside.
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我們都知道這種叫聲 會讓我們內心有什麼感受。
03:30
Panksepp and his colleagues then traced the brain circuits
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潘克賽普和他的同事們隨後追蹤了
豚鼠發出這些叫聲時, 大腦中的神經迴路,
03:34
that produce these cries in guinea pigs,
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03:36
and they made a startling discovery.
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他們有了一個驚人的發現:
03:39
That these are the very same circuits that are active when humans feel sad
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在人類感到悲傷和抑鬱時,
同樣的這些迴路也會活躍,
03:45
and when they experience depression.
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03:47
And these circuits are also part of the brain's pain matrix
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並且這些迴路也是 大腦疼痛基質的一部分,
03:51
that mediates our sensations of physical and mental pain.
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這些基質調節我們的身體 和精神痛苦的感受。
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But why are we born with this terrible gift
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但為什麼我們的大腦會內建
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hardwired into our brains?
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這個可怕的天賦呢?
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Well, probably because like any pain, mental pain is an alarm system.
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這可能是因為像任何疼痛一樣, 精神痛苦也是一種警報系統,
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Its task is to prevent damage.
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它的任務是防止損害。
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When babies lose their mothers, they hurt and they cry.
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當嬰兒失去母親時, 他們會感到痛苦並哭泣,
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Which brings their mothers back,
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這會召喚他們的母親回來,
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and it also makes them seek their mothers.
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也使他們尋找母親。
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In the wild, this is life-saving.
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在野外,這會救命的。
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Puppies and babies cannot survive without their mothers.
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小狗和嬰兒沒有母親是無法生存的。
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So now we know why we have mental pain.
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現在我們知道為什麼 我們會有精神痛苦了。
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It is the glue that keeps us together in couples, in families and communities.
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它是將我們維繫在一起的膠水, 維繫夫妻、家庭和社會群體。
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And when someone we love goes away or is taken away from us,
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當我們愛的人離開我們或被奪走時,
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it's this pain which draws us back together.
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正是這種痛苦讓我們重新聚在一起。
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And once we realize this,
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一旦我們明白了這一點,
我們就能回答詩人和哲學家
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then we can answer an age-old question
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04:52
that poets and philosophers have been asking for thousands of years.
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數千年來一直在問的一個古老問題:
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Does love always hurt?
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愛是否總是令人痛苦?
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What do you think?
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你覺得呢?
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Does love always hurt?
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愛是否總是令人痛苦?
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Yes, love always hurts, of course.
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是的,愛總是令人痛苦,當然,
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Because that's what it's supposed to do.
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因為理應如此。
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Mental pain is simply the high price,
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精神痛苦純粹是
我們為了能夠愛而付出的高昂代價。
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the very high price, that we pay for our ability to love.
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05:18
And personally,
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而就我個人而言,
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and, you know, I've been around the block a couple of times,
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我走過了好幾回,
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personally, I think it's worth it.
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我個人認為這是值得的。
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But we're not entirely defenseless against pain
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但我們並非完全無法對抗痛苦,
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because our brains produce endorphins
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因為我們的大腦會產生內啡肽
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or endogenous opioids,
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或內源性鴉片類物質,
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our very own feel-good molecules,
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這些是我們自我感覺良好的分子, 是身體和精神痛苦的天然療法。
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the natural remedy for both physical and mental pain.
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05:40
Endorphins are released in the brain during aerobic exercise
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內啡肽會在有氧運動時,
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or when we're close to someone we love,
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當我們接近所愛的人,
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and immediately after severe injuries.
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或者在嚴重受傷後釋放。
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And we now know what endorphins do,
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我們現在了解內啡肽的運作,
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they attach to special receptors in the brain,
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它們會附著在大腦中的特殊受體上,
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and the most important among them are mu opioid receptors.
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其中最重要的是 μ 鴉片受體。
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And just like the receptor I worked on in Kandel's lab,
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就像我在坎德爾實驗室 研究的受體一樣,
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mu opioid receptors are GPCR.
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μ 鴉片受體也是 GPCR。
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Here's how they work.
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它們運作的方式是如何呢?
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Like all GPCRs, mu opioid receptors are made of seven spirals
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像所有 GPCR 一樣, μ 鴉片受體由七個螺旋或環組成,
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or loops that are stacked together,
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它們堆疊在一起,
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sticking through both sides of the cell membrane.
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穿過細胞膜的兩側。
06:24
Like this, OK.
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就像這樣,
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And when endorphins attach to mu opioid receptors from the outside,
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內啡肽從外部附著在 μ 鴉片受體上時,
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they cause them to change their shape.
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它們會使受體改變形狀,
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Like this, OK?
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像這樣,
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And this triggers a series of events inside the neurons
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這會觸發神經元內的一連串反應,
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which eventually ease the pain.
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最終減輕痛苦。
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Now, forget the molecules for a second.
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現在,先忘掉分子吧。
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When you hug someone you love
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當你擁抱一個你愛的人,
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who is suffering from severe physical or mental pain,
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當她正在經歷嚴重的 身體或精神痛苦時,
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you actually cause her brain to release endorphins.
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你實際上會讓她的大腦釋放內啡肽。
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They attach to mu opioid receptors in her synapses and turn them on,
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內啡肽會附著在她突觸中的 μ 鴉片受體上,並啟動它們,
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and they soothe her pain.
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舒緩她的痛苦。
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And yet, sometimes mental pain gets so intense
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然而,有時精神痛苦會變得劇烈到
07:06
that no amount of love can soothe it.
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再多的愛也無法舒緩。
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But medicine has powerful drugs that can ease any physical pain.
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但是,醫學有強大的藥物 可以減輕任何身體痛苦。
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These are the narcotics or opioids like morphine.
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這些是麻醉藥或 鴉片類藥物,比如嗎啡。
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Narcotics work mainly by activating mu opioid receptors.
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麻醉藥主要通過激活 μ 鴉片受體來產生作用。
07:24
But if so, can narcotics also treat the pain of separation?
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如果是這樣,麻醉藥是否 也能治療分離的痛苦呢?
07:29
It was Jaak Panksepp who found the answer.
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賈克·潘克賽普找到了答案。
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Panksepp gave his puppies in a separation experiment
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潘克賽普在分離實驗中給小狗狗
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tiny, tiny doses of morphine,
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服用極少量的嗎啡,
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lower than the lowest doses that are used to treat physical pain,
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劑量低於治療身體痛苦的最低劑量,
07:44
and his puppies immediately stopped crying
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小狗立即停止哭泣,
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and started playing with each other as if they no longer miss their mothers.
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開始玩耍,好像它們不再思念母親。
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Let's go to humans now.
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再回到人類。
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When mental pain in humans becomes too intense to bear
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當人類的精神痛苦變得無法忍受時,
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people, some people, will do anything to stop it,
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有些人會做任何事情來停止它,
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even try to kill themselves.
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甚至試圖自殺。
08:05
Indeed, and I'm saying this as a clinical psychiatrist,
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作為臨床精神科醫師, 的確,我可以證實,
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unbearable mental pain is a huge risk factor for suicide.
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無法忍受的精神痛苦是 巨大的自殺風險因素。
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But if narcotics treat physical pain,
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但是,如果麻醉藥能治療身體痛苦,
08:16
and if they can soothe the mental pain of separation,
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如果它們能舒緩分離的精神痛苦,
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can they also help suicidal people become less suicidal?
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能不能也幫助那些自殺傾向的人, 讓他們不那麼想自殺呢?
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A few years ago,
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幾年前,
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together with Panksepp and other colleagues,
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我與潘克賽普和其他同事
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my research team conducted a clinical trial.
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一起進行了一項臨床試驗。
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We gave people who were severely suicidal very low doses of a narcotic drug,
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我們給嚴重自殺傾向的患者 服用非常低劑量的麻醉藥,
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called buprenorphine, for four weeks.
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一種名為丁丙諾啡的 麻醉藥,為期四週。
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We discovered that tiny, tiny doses of buprenorphine,
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我們發現極少量的丁丙諾啡,
08:47
which are too low to treat physical pain,
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劑量低於治療身體痛苦的最低劑量,
08:50
helped many of them become less suicidal.
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幫助了許多患者,不再那麼想自殺。
08:54
But narcotics are extremely dangerous drugs.
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但是,麻醉藥是極其危險的藥物。
08:58
They may cause addiction, and they're lethal in overdose.
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它們可能成癮,而且過量時是致命的。
09:02
In contrast, endorphins are not lethal in overdose,
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相比之下,內啡肽在過量時不會致命,
09:05
and they're much less likely to cause addiction.
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並且引起成癮的可能性也小得多。
09:08
So narcotics and endorphins probably activate mu opioid receptors
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因此,麻醉藥和內啡肽可能 以不同的方式激活 μ 鴉片受體。
09:12
in different ways.
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09:14
Now, if we could find drugs that activate mu opioid receptors
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如果我們能找到一些藥物,
是用類似內啡肽激活 μ 鴉片受體的方式來激活的,
09:19
in a way that resembles how endorphins activate them,
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09:22
we might be able to treat physical and mental pain
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或許我們就能治療身體和精神痛苦,
09:25
without some of the dangerous side effects of narcotics.
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而沒有麻醉藥的某些危險副作用。
09:28
And when my research team came to this conclusion,
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當我的研究團隊得出這個結論時,
09:32
I suddenly remembered what I had learned in Kandel's lab many, many years ago.
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我突然想起了多年前 在坎德爾實驗室中學到的知識。
09:37
Some GPCRs can be activated by two different drugs at the same time.
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某些 GPCR 可以同時 被兩種不同的藥物激活。
09:42
And when this happens,
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當這種情況發生,
09:44
the result may be different from what happens
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結果可能與僅僅 被一種藥物激活時不同。
09:47
when they're activated by just one drug.
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09:49
So our research team then used molecular computing technologies
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所以我們的研究團隊 使用分子演算技術,
09:54
to create a detailed virtual model of the human mu opioid receptor.
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創建了一個人類 μ 鴉片受體的詳細虛擬模型。
09:58
And then, with the help of programs known as molecular docking algorithms,
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然後,借助於 名為分子對接算法的程式,
10:04
we screened thousands of existing drugs on a virtual model of the receptor.
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我們在虛擬模型上篩選了 數千種現有的藥物。
10:10
Eventually, we found a way to teach an old dog,
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最終,我們找到了教這隻老狗
10:15
that's the human mu opioid receptor,
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(即人類 μ 鴉片受體)
10:17
some new tricks.
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新把戲的方法。
10:18
We found two drugs that are not narcotics,
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我們找到了兩種非麻醉藥的藥物,
10:22
and they work together in very, very small doses
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它們在非常小的劑量下共同作用,
10:25
to activate the human mu opioid receptor.
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激活人類 μ 鴉片受體。
10:28
I'm not telling you their names,
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我不會告訴你它們的名字,
10:30
because we still have to run many tests and clinical trials
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因為我們還需要進行 許多測試和臨床試驗,
10:33
before we can be certain
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才能確定它們的組合確實 能如我們所想的那樣作用。
10:34
that their combination does exactly what we think it does.
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10:38
But both of these drugs have been around for many, many years,
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但是,這兩種藥物 都已經存在了很多年,
10:42
and they've been used by millions of people.
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並且已被數百萬人使用,
10:44
So we know that they're safe for humans.
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所以我們知道它們對人體是安全的。
10:47
Here's our bottom line.
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以下是我們的結論。
10:48
Let's summarize what we've seen.
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容我總結一下我們所知的。
10:50
First and foremost, mental pain is real.
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首先,精神痛苦是真實的。
10:54
It's hardwired into our brains.
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它內建在我們的大腦中。
10:58
And mental pain is an essential part of mourning and depression and sadness.
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精神痛苦是哀悼、 抑鬱和悲傷的重要成份。
11:04
And when it gets severe enough, it can actually make people suicidal.
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當痛苦變得相當嚴重時, 實際上會使人產生自殺念頭。
11:09
Endorphins are brain's natural remedy for physical and mental pain,
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內啡肽是大腦對生理 和精神痛苦的天然療法,
11:14
and they work mainly, not exclusively,
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主要(但不僅是)
11:16
but mainly by activating mu opioid receptors.
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通過激活 μ 鴉片受體來起作用。
11:19
Now, narcotics also activate mu opioid receptors,
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麻醉藥也會激活 μ 鴉片受體,
11:23
but in a way that causes addiction and can lead to death.
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但足以引起成癮,並可能導致死亡。
11:27
And this is why narcotics are so dangerous.
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因此麻醉藥是非常危險的。
11:32
New computational technologies have helped us identify two existing drugs
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新的演算技術幫助我們 找到了兩種現有的藥物,
11:37
that together may treat physical and mental pain
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它們的組合可能治療身體和精神痛苦
11:40
without some of the severe side effects of narcotics.
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而不會有麻醉藥的一些嚴重副作用。
11:44
However, this is still a work in progress.
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然而,這項研究仍在進行中。
11:47
It would be a few years before it may become an approved treatment.
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可能還需要幾年時間, 才能成為一種被批准的治療方法。
11:51
But, and this is the last thing I'm going to say,
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但是,這是我要說的最後一件事,
11:54
regardless of drugs,
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無論是否有藥物,
11:55
you have the ability to help family and friends
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你都可以幫助那些處於身體
12:00
who are in severe physical or mental pain.
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或精神劇烈痛苦中的家人和朋友。
12:03
Thank you very much.
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非常感謝大家。
12:04
(Applause)
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