The Science of Lifespan — and the Impact of Your Five Senses | Christi Gendron | TED

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譯者: C Leung 審譯者: 麗玲 辛
00:04
I'm here to tell you that what we sense,
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我來這裡是想告訴你們, 我們所感受到的,
00:07
meaning what we see, smell, hear, taste and touch,
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也就是我們所看到、聞到、 聽到、嚐到和觸摸到的東西
00:13
can impact how long we live.
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都會影響我們的壽命。
00:16
Now this may seem extraordinary, but it really isn't.
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這聽來似乎匪夷所思, 但實際上並非如此。
00:21
Let's say that you wake up one morning
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假設你有天早上醒來,
00:24
and are trying to decide whether to go to an amusement park.
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正在考慮是否要去遊樂園,
00:29
One of the very first things you might do is to step outside and check the weather.
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你可能做的第一件事 就是出去查看天氣。
00:36
When you do, you see that the sky is blue, that the sun is out.
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當你這樣做,你看到 天空是藍的,太陽出來了,
00:43
You hear that the birds are chirping.
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你聽到鳥兒在嘰嘰喳喳地叫。
00:47
You feel how warm it is on your skin.
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你感覺到皮膚上有多溫暖。
00:52
Based on all of this information,
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根據所有這些信息,
00:55
you decide it is a perfect day for going to the park.
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你認為今天是去遊樂園的最佳日子。
00:59
You have used your senses to impact your decision.
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你已經用你的感官來影響你的決定。
01:05
Now gathering this information does more than simply impact your behavior.
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收集這些資訊不僅會影響你的行為,
01:12
It also can affect your emotions
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它還會影響你的情緒,
01:15
as well as how your body physically responds.
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以及你身體生理的反應。
01:19
To demonstrate, let's say you've arrived at that amusement park,
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為了說明我的論點, 假設你已經到達遊樂園,
01:24
and one of the very first things that you see
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你第一個看到的東西
01:28
is a roller coaster.
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就是雲霄飛車。
01:30
You see the speed with which it moves.
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你可以看到它移動的速度。
01:34
You see the twists and turns it takes.
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你可以看到它左穿右插。
01:36
You see the terrified look on the riders' faces.
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你可以看到乘客臉上驚恐的表情。
01:40
You hear their screams. Even right here, right now,
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你聽得到他們的尖叫聲。
即使在此時此刻,
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this sensory event may be causing you to feel anxious
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這種感官事件也可能會讓你感到焦慮,
01:50
or even excited,
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甚至興奮。
01:52
feelings that are associated with butterflies in your stomach,
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這種感覺常常會讓人聯想到七上八下、
01:56
a racing heartbeat, even sweating palms.
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心跳加速、甚至手心出汗。
02:01
Your senses have caused your body to change.
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你的感官導致身體反應的變化。
02:07
This is an example
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這是一個例子,
02:09
of how a very short sensory perceptive event can impact you.
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說明短暫的感官感知事件如何影響你。
02:15
What do you imagine
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你會想像
02:18
a much longer sensory event might do to you?
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一個更久的感官事件 會對你產生什麼樣的影響?
02:23
This is the question that I am interested in addressing.
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這是我很感興趣、想解答的問題。
02:28
And what scientists like me have discovered
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像我這樣的科學家發現,
02:33
is that prolonged sensory events
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長時間的感官事件
02:38
can impact the lifespan of an animal.
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會影響動物的壽命。
02:45
This has been shown with worms, flies, mice.
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這已經在蠕蟲、蒼蠅、老鼠中證實了。
02:51
When you expose them to pheromones, it impacts how long they live.
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當你將它們暴露在費洛蒙中, 這會影響它們的壽命。
02:58
Now at this point, you might be asking yourself,
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這刻,你可能會心想,
03:01
um, what does a worm, a fly or a mouse have to do with me?
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嗯,蠕蟲、蒼蠅或老鼠 與我有什麼關係?
03:08
I would argue more than you realize.
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我會說,比你意識到的還要多。
03:13
The genes or genetic material that you find within a worm
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無論是在蠕蟲或蒼蠅體內,
你會發現牠們的基因或遺傳物質
03:19
or within a fly,
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03:21
that is approximately 60 to 75 percent similar to our own.
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與我們的約有 60% 至 75% 相似。
03:29
This increases to 85 percent if we compare ourselves to a mouse.
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如果我們將自己與老鼠進行比較, 這個比例就會增加到 85%。
03:36
Furthermore, the fact that three very different animals
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此外,事實上,三種截然不同的動物
03:41
all respond in terms of changing their lifespan
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當暴露於特定的環境因素裡,
03:44
when exposed to a specific environmental cue,
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都會有壽命改變的反應,
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this suggests that those underlying biological processes
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這表明驅動這些變化的潛在生物過程
03:52
that drive those changes are similar.
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是相似的。
03:55
Therefore, there is every reason to believe
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因此,我們有充分的理由相信,
03:59
that environmental cues impact our own very human aging process.
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環境因素會影響我們人類的老化過程。
04:06
In order to study environmental cues and how they impact lifespan,
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為了研究環境因素及其對壽命的影響,
04:12
our lab has decided to focus on the nervous system.
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我們的實驗室決定 將重點放在神經系統上。
04:18
Now why the nervous system?
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為什麼是神經系統呢?
04:21
Well, we can think of the nervous system as a communication hub.
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我們可以將神經系統視為溝通樞紐,
04:27
It's responsible for gathering that sensory information,
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它負責收集感官信息,
04:31
for processing it and then for causing those bodily changes that occur.
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對其進行處理,然後引起身體變化。
04:40
Furthermore, to do this research,
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此外,為了進行這項研究,
04:42
we need to control the environment
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我們需要控制環境,
04:45
that an animal is in for its entire life.
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就是動物一生所處的環境。
如果用人類來做這實驗, 往好了說是相當困難的,
04:51
This is something that would be pretty difficult at best,
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04:56
and unethical at worst to do using humans.
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往壞了說就是不道德的。
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I therefore use this little guy,
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因此,我使用這個小傢伙,
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Drosophila melanogaster,
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黑腹果蠅,
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also known as the fruit fly
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也被稱為果蠅,
05:11
or the pest that came home on your bananas from the grocery store,
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或從雜貨店隨著香蕉帶回家的害蟲,
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in order to understand the things that we share in common
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來了解我們共有的事物
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that impact lifespan.
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怎樣影響壽命。
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Now fruit flies are amazing for this type of research.
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果蠅對於這類研究來說非常出色。
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They live a short amount of time.
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它們的壽命很短,
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They only live two or three months.
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它們只能活兩三個月。
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They have a brain and a central nervous system.
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它們有大腦和中樞神經系統。
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And we can easily activate or inhibit specific neuron cells
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而且我們很容易就可以 激活或抑制特定的神經元細胞,
05:42
or even the activities of specific molecules
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甚至特定分子的活動,
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in order to see how these changes impact how long the animal lives.
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以了解這些變化如何影響動物的壽命。
05:52
Now I am the first to admit
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首先我要坦承,
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that my belief of how great it is to work with fruit flies is biased.
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我之所以認為 跟果蠅合作很棒,是偏袒的。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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But that's because I'm a fly girl.
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純粹只是因為我喜歡蒼蠅。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:10
So our lab has studied how very many different environmental cues
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因此,我們的實驗室研究了 有多少不同的環境因素
06:15
have impacted the lifespan of this animal.
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會影響這種動物的壽命。
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I'm going to highlight one in particular,
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我要特別強調一個,
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and that is death perception.
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那就是死亡感知。
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Yes, I said death.
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是的,我說的是死亡。
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So why are we interested
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為什麼我們會特別關注
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in whether a fly can recognize other dead flies?
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蒼蠅能否辨識其他同伴死去呢?
06:33
We're interested in this so that we can develop therapies
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我們關注這點,以便開發治療方法,
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for people who find themselves developing negative health consequences
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幫助那些因死亡帶來的壓力
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as a result of stressful situations surrounding death.
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而對健康產生負面影響的人。
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If you think about this,
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如果你想到這一點,
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this could impact soldiers and first responders.
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這研究可能幫助士兵和急救人員。
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You're thinking, "What? A fly can actually recognize another dead fly?"
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你在想,「什麼?蒼蠅真的 會知道另一隻蒼蠅死掉了?」
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The answer is yes.
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答案是肯定的。
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If I take a vial of flies and I put dead in there,
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如果我把一隻死掉的蒼蠅 放進一個蒼蠅玻璃瓶裏,
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they send out a signal to other flies
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它們會發出信號給其他蒼蠅,
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to stay away.
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要它們遠離。
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We can measure this.
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我們可以測量出這點。
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You know those flies in the vial with the dead?
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你知道嗎?和已死同伴 一起裝在瓶子裡的那些蒼蠅,
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They lose weight and they die sooner.
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它們會體重減輕,並且更快死去。
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Now that we know that there's all these effects,
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我們知道會有這些影響,
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we wanted to make sure this was real.
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我們想確保這是真實的。
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So, you know, the first thing that you might imagine
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首先,你可能猜想,
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is that, well, those flies with the dead, they're getting an infection.
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那些和已死同伴一起的蒼蠅 可能被感染,生病了,
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They're getting sick, and that's what's causing them to die.
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這才是導致它們死亡的原因。
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But we know this isn't the case,
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但我們知道情況並非如此,
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because if I do the experiment
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因為就算我進行實驗的條件
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under sterile or infection-free conditions,
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是在無菌或無感染的狀況下,
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the live flies, they still die when they're with the dead.
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當放進死去的蒼蠅, 活的蒼蠅仍然會死亡。
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But if you take that vial of flies
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但如果把那瓶蒼蠅
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and you put them in complete darkness
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放在完全黑暗的環境中,
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for 24 hours, all the time,
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全日 24 小時,
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they never see the light,
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它們始終不會看到光線,
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those flies live just as long
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那些蒼蠅的壽命
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as flies that never had dead in their vial to begin with.
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就會跟和瓶子裡沒有死蒼蠅一樣長。
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This indicates that it is the sight of the dead
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這表明,看到死者
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that is causing all those biological changes,
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引發了所有的生物變化,
08:19
which impacts their lifespan.
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從而影響它們的壽命。
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So now that we know that flies can sense other dead,
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現在我們知道蒼蠅可以感知其他死者,
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we turned our attention toward trying to understand
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我們將注意力轉向
嘗試更加了解這些生物過程的進行。
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a little bit more about those biological processes
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08:33
that are happening.
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有哪些變化?
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What are the changes?
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08:36
And what we discovered was that molecules found in our own bodies,
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我們發現,我們體內的分子,
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including serotonin and insulin, had a role.
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包括血清素和胰島素, 都有自己的作用。
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Furthermore, we discovered parts of the fly brain
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此外,
我們還發現果蠅大腦中有一些部位
在接觸到死亡時, 對壽命起著重要作用,
08:54
that played a role in how long they live when exposed to dead
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08:57
that have similarities with regions of our own brains.
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這與我們大腦某些區域有相似之處。
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This is what we know about just one type of environmental cue.
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這只是我們所知道的一種環境因素。
09:09
There are many different environmental cues
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有許多不同的環境因素 會影響動物的壽命。
09:11
that impact the lifespan of animals.
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09:13
These include the temperature that the animal is kept in.
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其中包括動物飼養的溫度,
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These include the smell of food,
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食物的氣味,
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the wavelength of light they are exposed to,
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他們所接觸的光的波長,
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even the perception of pain.
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甚至還有對疼痛的感知。
09:29
In order for us to develop therapies
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為了發展出促進健康老化的療法,
09:34
that promote healthy aging,
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09:37
we must understand the basic biology of all of these cues,
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我們必須了解所有因素的基本生物學,
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because after all, we don't live in a world
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因為畢竟,在我們所處的世界
09:44
where we receive one cue at a time.
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我們並不是一次只接收一種環境訊息。
09:51
So what does this all mean?
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那麼,這一切代表什麼意思?
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I would love nothing more than to be able to tell you
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我很希望我能告訴你,
10:00
that you should expose yourself to this environmental cue,
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你應該讓自己暴露在這種環境因素中,
10:05
you should avoid that one
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你應該避免那個,
10:07
in order to live your longest, healthiest life.
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這樣你就能過上最長壽、 最健康的生活。
10:12
But I simply can't do that yet.
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但我現在還做不到,
10:14
We're just not there.
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我們尚未達成。
10:16
But we're pushing hard towards this type of understanding,
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但我們正在努力達到這樣的理解,
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and we're going to do it with these little guys.
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我們將與這些小傢伙一起做到這點。
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After all, six Nobel Prizes have been won
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畢竟,有六位諾貝爾獎得主的研究
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based on work with Drosophila
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是基於對果蠅的研究,
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that impacts the biology and helps us all,
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這些研究影響了生物學, 並幫助了我們所有人,
10:33
including worms, flies, mice,
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包括蠕蟲、蒼蠅、老鼠,
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and yes, humans.
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當然,還有人類。
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And on that note, I'd like to leave you with a happy perceptive experience
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說到這裡,我希望有給你 留下一次愉快的感知體驗。
10:44
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
10:45
in the hopes that this positively impacts your life.
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也希望這帶給你的生命正面的影響。
10:50
Thank you.
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謝謝。
10:51
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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