What Happens to Sex in Midlife? A Look at the “Bedroom Gap” | Maria Sophocles | TED

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00:04
So the other day,
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所以前几天,
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a woman walked into my office and exclaimed:
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一位女士走进我的办公室, 惊呼:
00:09
"My vagina has betrayed me!"
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“我的阴道背叛了我!”
00:14
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
00:17
Not what most of us hear on a Monday morning before coffee,
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不像是我们大多数人在周一早上 喝咖啡前会听到的话,
00:20
but welcome to my world as a gynecologist
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欢迎来到我的世界, 作为一名妇科医生
00:23
and sexual medicine specialist.
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和性医学专家。
00:27
You know, everybody thinks of menopause as hot flashes,
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你知道,每个人都认为 更年期就是潮热,
00:31
but for over half of menopausal women,
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但是对于一半以上的更年期女性而言,
00:34
it’s accompanied by sexual issues.
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更年期伴随着性问题。
00:36
Things like loss of libido or painful intercourse,
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诸如性欲丧失或性交疼痛,
00:40
even total destruction of a relationship.
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甚至彻底摧毁一段关系。
00:43
It’s what I call the “bedroom gap,”
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这就是我所说的 “房事差距”,
00:46
the difference in sexual expectations and capabilities
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即性期望和性能力在
00:51
of men and women in midlife.
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中年男性和女性之间的差异。
00:53
Now the bedroom gap is a combination of the genital effects of menopause
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现在,房事差距是一个综合结果, 由更年期对生殖器官的影响
00:59
and deeply entrenched cultural and historical gender roles.
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以及根深蒂固的文化和历史性别角色所致。
01:03
To understand how to close the bedroom gap
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要了解如何缩小房事差距
01:06
and to get the sex we want,
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并获得我们想要的性生活,
01:08
we have to examine its root causes.
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我们必须研究其根本原因。
01:11
So let's start with some science.
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那么,让我们先从科学原理开始。
01:14
In menopause, the ovaries make estrogen less consistently
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在更年期,卵巢越来越少地分泌雌激素,
01:19
and eventually stop making it altogether.
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最终完全停止。
01:22
And this loss of estrogen has two huge effects in the vagina.
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这种雌激素的流失对阴道 产生了两个巨大的影响。
01:27
The first is on collagen.
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第一个影响是胶原蛋白。
01:30
Less estrogen means less collagen is made,
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雌激素越少,意味着 产生的胶原蛋白越少,
01:34
and the quality of that collagen deteriorates
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并且胶原蛋白的质量会下降,
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from strong and stretchy to brittle.
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从强韧有弹性的,变成脆性的。
01:40
Ouch.
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哎哟。
01:41
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:43
The second effect of the loss of estrogen in the vagina is on blood vessels.
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阴道内雌激素流失的第二个影响, 是对血管的影响。
01:48
We need blood vessels for lubrication.
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我们需要血管来润滑。
01:50
When I'm examining a patient,
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我检查病人的时候,
01:52
I can literally see if she's deficient in estrogen.
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我真的能看出她是否缺乏雌激素。
01:57
The deterioration from thick,
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从厚实的、隆起的、
02:00
ridgy, dark pink, elastic, moist tissue
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深粉色的、有弹性的、潮湿的组织
02:03
to thin, dry, inelastic, pale pink,
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变成薄的、干燥的、 没有弹性的、淡粉色的,
02:09
even yellowish white tissue.
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甚至带点黄色的白色组织。
02:11
We also need blood vessels for arousal.
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我们还需要血管来性唤起。
02:15
This is where you're supposed to wake up.
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这是你应该醒来的地方。
02:17
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:22
Now I'm excited.
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现在我很兴奋。
02:24
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:27
When we're aroused, fluid moves ...
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当我们被性唤起时, 液体会流动……
02:29
Fluid moves from the blood vessels
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液体从血管
02:32
through the vaginal wall to make lubrication.
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流经阴道壁来进行润滑。
02:36
Without blood vessels, you’re not going to get wet
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没有血管,你是不会湿的,
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no matter how turned on you are.
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无论你多么精力充沛。
02:41
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:43
So where does this leave you?
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那么这将给你带来什么呢?
02:45
Well, you feel dried up,
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好吧,你会感到干燥,
02:48
you can't get wet,
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你无法变湿,
02:49
your vagina seems to be on fire and --
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你的阴道似乎着火了然后 ——
02:53
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:55
Your partner perceives your discomfort,
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你的伴侣察觉到你的不适,
02:57
then you feel bad,
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然后你感到难过,
02:58
then your partner feels guilty,
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然后你的伴侣感到内疚,
03:00
and then you feel as if you have wrecked the whole moment.
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然后你觉得自己好像毁了整个时刻。
03:04
I will never forget, a patient said to me once,
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我永远不会忘记一位病人曾经对我说:
03:08
“Dr. Sophocles, when my partner and I have sex,
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“索福克勒斯博士,当我和伴侣行房时,
03:12
we sing this Johnny Cash song."
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我们会唱约翰尼·卡什 (Johnny Cash)的这首歌。”
03:15
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:17
Oh, you know it?
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哦,你知道这歌儿?
03:18
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:20
"Ring of Fire."
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“《火环》。”
03:21
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:25
"We sing it, I sing it
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“我们唱这首歌,我唱这首歌
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because I have to sing and laugh,
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是因为我必须唱和笑,
03:30
or else I would cry and it would spoil the moment for him."
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否则我会哭, 然后会毁掉他的这一刻。”
03:36
For him.
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为了他。
03:39
So while women are living in this ring of fire, mercy sex world,
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因此,当女性生活在这个火环般的、 慈悲的性爱世界中时,
03:43
on the other side of the mattress --
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在床垫的另一边——
03:45
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:47
things are a little different.
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情况略有不同。
03:49
See, for 25 years,
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看,25年来,
03:51
men have had a relatively safe, reliable,
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男性一直有相对安全、可靠、
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available medical option for erectile dysfunction.
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可用的勃起功能障碍医疗方案。
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What was first invented to firm up a floppy penis
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最早使疲软的阴茎硬起来的发明
04:03
has now become a global phenomenon
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现在已风靡全球
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to optimize male sexual performance.
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旨在优化男性性能力。
04:12
Now, Viagra did not cause the bedroom gap, but I believe it has widened it.
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现在,伟哥并没有引起房事差距, 但我相信它扩大了差距。
04:17
And by the way, it's not men's fault.
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顺便说一句,这不是男人的错。
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They are just availing themselves
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他们只是在利用
04:22
of what gender-biased modern medicine has on offer.
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带有性别偏好的现代医学所提供的服务。
04:27
True.
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是的。
04:28
But while middle-aged men are benefiting from a rock hard,
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然而,当中年男性正受益于一个坚如磐石的、
04:31
medically enhanced erection,
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靠医学增强的勃起时,
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their female partners are literally left hung out to dry.
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他们的女性伴侣却被干巴巴地晾在一边, 字面意义上的。
04:38
(Laughter and applause)
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(笑声和掌声)
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So here's the good news, women do have options,
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那么好消息来了, 女性是有选择的,
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but they just don't seem to avail themselves of them.
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但她们似乎没有利用这些选择。
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Why?
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为什么?
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What's the hold up?
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有什么阻碍?
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Well, one problem may be
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好吧,一个问题可能是,
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that many doctors don't feel comfortable talking to female patients
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许多医生不愿与女性患者谈论
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about menopause and sexual issues
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更年期和性问题,
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because they feel they were never properly trained.
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因为医生们觉得自己 从未接受过适当的培训。
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And I think this is true.
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而且我认为的确如此。
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Our medical system is woefully outdated.
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我们的医疗系统已经严重过时了。
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In fact, one study showed
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实际上,一项研究表明
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that two-thirds of medical training programs in the US
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美国三分之二的医学培训项目中
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have just one lecture on menopause, one.
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仅有一个关于更年期的讲座,一个。
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Which may explain why doctors are uncomfortable
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这也许可以解释为什么医生不愿谈及此事,
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and why 75 percent of women
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以及为什么75%的女性
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who go to doctors to seek care for menopausal problems
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为了治疗更年期问题去看医生,
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come away empty-handed.
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却空手而归。
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This has to change.
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这种情况必须改变。
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Because every one of us is going to go through menopause
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因为我们每个人都将经历更年期,
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and experience the loss of estrogen.
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并体会到雌激素的流失。
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And there are a lot of us right now.
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而且还有很多人正在经历。
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Globally, there are 1.1 billion women right now
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全球目前有11亿女性
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who’ve reached menopause and post-menopause.
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已经进入更年期和绝经期。
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And almost half of them are suffering from sexual issues
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而且其中将近一半的人 都在忍受性问题的困扰,
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largely quietly,
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大多数是悄无声息地,
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and it's probably underreported.
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而情况还可能被低估了。
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I know because for 28 years
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我知道是因为28年来
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I have listened to your stories
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我一直在听你们的故事,
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on five continents,
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来自五大洲,
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and I can tell you that the bedroom gap
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我可以告诉你,房事差距
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cuts across race, ethnicity,
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横贯所有种族、族裔、
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economics, education and geography.
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经济阶层、教育背景和地理差异。
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It is universal and ubiquitous.
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它是普遍的、无处不在的。
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It's also lasting a lot longer.
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并且它还将持续更长的时间。
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See, women are outliving men by five to six years,
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看,女性的寿命普遍比男性长五到六年,
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and they're spending more than a third of their lives after menopause.
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而她们会在更年期后 度过三分之一以上的生命。
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So there are more postmenopausal women who are single, widowed, divorced.
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因此,有更多的绝经后女性是处于 单身、丧偶、离异状态的。
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Some of them want to be intimate.
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她们中的一些人想保持亲密关系。
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They go online,
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她们上网,
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they swipe left, they swipe right,
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向左滑,向右滑,
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they start dating, they start having sex.
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她们开始约会,开始发生关系。
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And this is great.
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这很棒。
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But between the issues inherent in the bedroom gap,
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但是,房事差距是固有的问题,
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Viagra widening that gap,
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而伟哥又加大了这种差距,
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and the complexities of online dating,
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再加上在线约会的复杂性,
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it's no wonder you feel your vagina has betrayed you.
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怪不得你会觉得你的阴道背叛了你。
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But it's not your vagina's fault.
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但这不是你阴道的错。
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No.
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不是。
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What has betrayed you
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背叛你的
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is not only the biology of aging
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不仅仅是生物学上的衰老,
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but history
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还有历史,
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and culture.
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还有文化,
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And gender roles etched in sexual stone over millennia.
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以及几千年以来,镌刻在性的石碑上的 性别角色。
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Sexual dogma that decrees
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性教条规定
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that a woman's role in the bedroom is to please,
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女性在卧室中的角色是取悦
08:00
to serve.
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和服务,
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To not impede the sexual pleasure that a man is entitled to.
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是不要妨碍男人享受应有的性快感。
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Now, we’re not going to change a millennia of sexual scripting in a TED Talk.
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现在,我们不是要在一个TED演讲中 改写数千年以来的性别剧本。
08:17
But I can offer you this.
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但我可以为你提供这个。
08:19
Since we know that deficiency of estrogen
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既然我们知道缺乏雌激素
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makes the vagina dry and unpleasant,
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会使阴道干燥不适,
08:27
then maybe one solution to closing the bedroom gap
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那么缩小房事差距的一种解决方案
08:30
might be to replace that vaginal estrogen.
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可能是更换阴道雌激素。
08:34
Uh-oh, I see the look on your face.
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啊哦,我看见你脸上的表情了。
08:38
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:39
I know what you're thinking.
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我知道你在想什么。
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You're thinking, "Estrogen?
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你在想,“雌激素?
08:43
What about the cancer risk?"
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那么癌症风险呢?”
08:47
Well, I get it.
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行,我懂了。
08:48
We have to address this collective fear of estrogen and cancer.
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我们必须解决这种 对雌激素和患癌的集体恐惧。
08:53
That fear stems from the Women's Health Initiative,
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这种恐惧源于女性健康倡议,
08:57
the media storm that surrounded the release
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以及20年前围绕该数据发布的
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of that data 20 years ago.
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的媒体风暴。
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That study examined the risks of oral estrogen
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该研究调查了口服雌激素
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and cancer, among other things,
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和癌症等的风险,
09:10
not vaginal estrogen.
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而非阴道雌激素。
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So here's the key point.
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所以关键在这儿。
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Estrogen behaves differently
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雌激素的表现
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depending on where and how it's used.
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因使用部位和方式而异。
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Check it out.
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看看吧。
09:22
Vaginal estrogen works genitally, locally and has positive effects.
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阴道雌激素作用在生殖器局部, 并产生积极作用。
09:27
Systemic estrogen can have positive or potentially negative effects
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全身性雌激素可能产生正面 或潜在的负面作用,
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depending on the target tissue.
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具体取决于靶组织。
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Vaginal estrogen has been out since 1946
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阴道雌激素自 1946 年问世
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and studied extensively
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就拥有了广泛的研究,
09:41
and has never been shown to cause breast or other cancer.
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从未显示会导致乳腺癌或其他癌症。
09:46
But we, the big we,
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但是我们大部分人,
09:49
have made vaginal and systemic estrogen falsely equivalent.
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却把阴道雌激素和 全身雌激素错误地划上了等号。
09:53
We have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.
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我们把孩子和洗澡水一起倒掉了。
09:56
Our fear does not discriminate.
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我们的恐惧不分青红皂白。
09:59
And now far too many women don't use estrogen at all.
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而且,现在有太多的女性 根本不使用雌激素。
10:04
So where does this leave us?
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那么这会给我们带来什么呢?
10:05
Well, the thing is,
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好吧,问题是,
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we have a right to comfortable sex.
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我们有权享受舒适的性。
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And a right to pleasurable sex.
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还有权享受愉快的性。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
10:20
Yeah.
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没错。
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(Cheers and applause)
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(欢呼和掌声)
10:25
So the thing is,
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问题是,
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we talked about vaginal and systemic estrogen,
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我们谈到了阴道雌激素 和全身雌激素,
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and there are even other medications we can use, vaginal and oral,
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甚至还有其他药物 包括阴道雌激素和口服雌激素,
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that will help us
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可以帮助我们
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to close our bedroom gap.
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缩小房事差距
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The other avenue to close the bedroom gap is advocacy.
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缩小房事差距的另一个途径是宣传。
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How can you close your bedroom gap
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如何缩小房事差距
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so that you can enjoy sex?
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以便你享受性生活?
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Or better yet, how can you never have one happen in the first place?
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或者更好的是,一开始你如何 杜绝这样的事发生呢?
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I’m talking to you, millennials and Gen Zers.
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我在对你们喊话, 千禧一代和Z世代们。
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Well, one, get educated.
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好吧,第一,接受教育。
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Read credible sources.
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阅读可靠的来源。
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Find clinicians invested in sexual health.
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寻找致力于性健康的临床医生。
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Two,
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第二,
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talk about it to each other,
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和对方谈谈,
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to your clinicians, to your partners.
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和你的临床医生谈, 和你伴侣谈。
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Talk without shame or blame and get specific.
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不要羞耻,也不要责备, 谈论得具体一点。
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What hurts?
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哪里痛?
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What feels good?
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哪里感觉不错?
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Get sexually creative.
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发挥性创造力。
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And don't do anything that doesn't feel good.
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而且不要做任何感觉不好的事。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
11:29
And number three, reframe sexual and genital health
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第三,将性健康和生殖器健康
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as a lifelong maintenance project.
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重新构建为一项终身维护项目。
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And don't think that just because you can't get wet
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不要想着 那只是因为你无法变湿
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or you have wimpy orgasms
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或者你疲软的高潮
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that that can't be fixed.
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根本得不到修复。
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Because, here's the deal,
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因为,情况是这样的,
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which you already heard in this talk.
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你已经在这次演讲中听到了,
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We have a right to comfortable sex
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我们有权享受舒适的性,
11:53
and a right to pleasurable sex.
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有权享受愉快的性。
11:56
So let's move
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因此,让我们向前推动
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the sexual equality needle forward.
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性别平等的进程。
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Let's start with young people,
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让我们从年轻人开始,
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young men and women.
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从年轻男女开始。
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It is time
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是时候
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for sex ed to progress beyond getting a condom on a banana.
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让性教育比给香蕉戴避孕套 更进一步了。
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(Cheers and applause)
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(欢呼和掌声)
12:22
It is time for sex ed to prioritize
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是时候让性教育优先考虑
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equal sexual pleasure for men and women.
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男女之间平等的性快感了。
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So they learn it right from the beginning
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让他们在开始发生关系时
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when they're starting to have sex.
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就认识到这一点。
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And it is time to revamp medical education
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是时候改进医学教育
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to keep up with the demographic explosion of menopausal women.
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以跟上更年期女性人口的爆发性增长了。
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So that doctors have the tools
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让医生拥有所需的工具
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and the information they need to provide to women
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和信息,可以提供给女性
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so they don't leave empty-handed.
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使她们不会空手而归。
12:54
And it is far past time
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而且性快感的概念
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for the concept of sexual pleasure to be gender-neutral.
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早就该不分性别了。
13:04
Because it's never too early to start.
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因为任何时候开始都不嫌早。
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It's never too late to improve equal sexual pleasure for men and women.
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改善男女平等的性快感 还为时不晚。
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And let's face it,
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让我们面对现实吧,
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sexual health is part of long-term human health.
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性健康是人类长期健康的一部分。
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We know that staying sexually active reduces blood pressure,
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我们知道保持性活跃会降低血压,
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improves cardiovascular health,
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改善心血管健康,
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decreases stress and depression and anxiety
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减轻压力、抑郁和焦虑,
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and is linked to longevity.
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并与寿命息息相关。
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And we, women,
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而我们,女性,
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we must emancipate ourselves
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我们应该解放自己,
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from the rigid roles of sex for procreation
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从“性是为了生育或男性的快感” 这样僵化的性别角色中
13:45
or male pleasure.
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解脱出来。
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My big hope
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我最大的希望是,
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is that in closing the bedroom gap,
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在缩小房事差距的过程中,
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we take one small sexual step
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我们在性事上的一小步,
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towards gender equality for all of us.
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是实现所有人性别平等的一大步。
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
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(Cheers and applause)
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(欢呼和掌声)
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