A Photographic Journey through the Taliban's Takeover of Afghanistan | Kiana Hayeri | TED
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翻译人员: Yijia Yu
校对人员: Violet Yu
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Last year,
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就在去年,
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I spent several months photographing
the fast changes across Afghanistan,
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我花了几个月的时间,
用摄影记录下阿富汗的飞速变化,
00:08
as we approached the 20th anniversary
of the US invasion.
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那时正临近
美国侵略阿富汗 20 周年纪念。
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At the time,
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当初,
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I wanted this assignment
to be a love letter to a troubled land
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我本想把这项任务当成一封情书
献给这片多灾多难的土地,
00:17
that I had called home for seven years.
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也是我七年来一直称之为“家”的地方。
00:19
Little did I know that it will become
a goodbye letter to Afghanistan
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但我万万没想到,
这将成为我给阿富汗的一封告别信,
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as I knew it.
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而我曾熟悉的阿富汗将一去不返。
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Along with our brave local colleagues,
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那时,我同当地一些勇敢的同事一起,
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we traveled across Afghanistan
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走遍了阿富汗,
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to look at how the last 20 years
impacted people.
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想要看看过去 20 年
对人们造成了什么影响。
00:32
I was specifically drawn
to hear from the youth
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我尤其想要听听年轻人的声音,
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who grew up after the American invasion
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他们都是在美国侵略阿富汗之后,
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in an increasingly open society.
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在日益开放的社会环境中成长起来的。
从小长到大,他们用的都是脸书,推特,
看的都是美国电影和电视节目。
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They grew up in a world with Facebook,
Twitter, American movies and TV shows.
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他们的世界充满着全新的自由与机遇。
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A world of new freedoms and opportunities.
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不过,他们也曾经受战争和恐怖主义的摧残,
饱受贫穷与流离的痛苦。
00:49
They also endured war and terrorism,
poverty and dislocation,
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他们在腐败政府的统治下
只得苟延残喘,
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barely surviving
under a corrupt government
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爆炸性自杀也无时无刻
不在威胁着他们的生命。
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and the perpetual threat
of suicide bombings.
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农村的年轻人大多认为,
自己要么就是牺牲,
01:00
While the youth in countryside
mostly saw themselves either victimized
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要么就是加入冲突的一方,就此参战。
01:05
or fighting for both sides
of the conflict,
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相比之下,城市的年轻人拥有更多选择,
也怀有更多梦想。
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the youth in urban areas
had more options and dreams.
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我们此行遇到的许多青年,不论男女,
01:11
Many of the young men and women
that we met with
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都只抱着最后一丝希望,
01:14
were hanging on to the last rays of hope
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眼看着整个国家一点点被黑暗吞噬,
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as the country was sinking into darkness
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因为美国撤军以后,
塔利班立刻便会接管阿富汗政权。
01:20
because of the American withdrawal
and Taliban’s imminent takeover.
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对我而言,直面这一事实仅仅是个开始,
而之后我将见证一个时代的终结。
01:24
For me, confronting this
was the beginning of the end.
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现在,我想带大家重温这一段旅程,
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I want to take you on a journey
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看一看塔利班军事接管前的几个月
这个国家是什么样子,
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in the months leading
to Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan,
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我会用一组照片
展现社会巨变期间人们的样子。
01:37
and give you snapshots of people
as they lived through this transition.
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去年四月,我坐在监狱冰冷的水泥地上,
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Last April, I sat down on the cold
cement floor of a prison
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和两个十几岁的男孩儿坐在一起,
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with two teenage boys
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他们是因政治原因入的狱,
01:46
who were incarcerated
for political charges,
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再直白一点,因为他们协助过塔利班。
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a loose term for helping the Taliban.
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这是 14 岁的穆罕默德·阿西夫,
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14-year-old Mohammad Asif
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他的两个哥哥都入伍了,
却是站在彼此的对立面,
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had two brothers fighting
on two sides of the conflict,
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一个加入了塔利班,
另一个加入了政府军。
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one for the Taliban and one for the army.
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他最终选择了前者的道路,
尽管他的哥哥 16 岁加入塔利班,
02:00
He chose to follow the path of the brother
who was 16 when he joined the Taliban,
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却在不到 20 岁时就战死了。
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and he was killed before he turned 20.
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我让监狱里这两个男孩儿
想象自己十年后的生活,
02:09
I asked both boys to imagine
themselves in ten years.
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穆罕默德·阿西夫什么也没说,
只是耸耸肩。
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Mohammad Asif said nothing and shrugged.
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我鼓励他再努力想想,
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I challenged him to try harder
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不要把未来局限在眼前灰暗的牢房里。
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and see himself beyond
the soulless cells of the prison.
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试了好几次,
02:21
It took several tries.
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他最终回答道:
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He eventually responded,
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“我也不知道,可能自己那时候就死了吧。”
02:24
"I don't know, I'll probably be dead."
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我和我的同事在此行中还去了卡塞峰,
02:27
On the same trip,
we visited Karsai Peak,
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那在当时是战争前线,
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which at the time was serving
as the frontline
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阿富汗政府军和塔利班军队
就在那里交锋。
02:33
for Afghanistan's national army
fighting the Taliban.
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那条山脉上尽是前哨,
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The mountain range was peppered
by dozens of outposts,
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驻扎着无数士兵,还有一个民兵部队。
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housing soldiers and a militia unit.
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这些战士中,大多数也就二十岁出头,
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Most fighters were
in their early twenties.
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有一些还是十几岁的孩子。
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Some of them were teenagers.
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差不多所有人都有
好几个月没回过家了。
02:47
Almost all of them
hadn't been home in months.
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当时,那支部队几乎每晚都要遭到伏击,
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At the time, the unit was ambushed
almost every night.
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所以这些年轻人整夜作战不休,
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The young men would stay up
all night fighting
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到了白天才轮流小睡一会儿。
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and take turns to nap during the day.
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7 月 2 日,也就是塔利班完全夺取阿富汗政权的
一个半月之前,
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On July 2, a month and a half
before the Taliban took over Afghanistan,
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卡塞峰被占领了。
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they overran Karsai Peak.
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仅仅这一个兵团,就有 19 人被杀,
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From the militia unit alone
19 men were killed.
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另外 25 人则作了人质。
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Another 25 were taken hostage.
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所有这些年轻人的命运
都是美国入侵导致的。
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All these young men were the legacy
of the American invasion.
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这是哈菲扎。
03:18
Meet Hafiza.
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战争的混乱下,她不得以离开旧村,流离失所,
她的几个儿子也彼此为敌。
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The war drove her out of her village
and turned her sons into enemies.
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战争横插在她的家人之间,
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The conflict wedged itself
in between her own family
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迫使她的儿子走上了不同的道路。
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as her sons took different paths in life.
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她的长子加入了
一支反塔利班民兵部队,
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Her oldest son joined
an anti-Taliban militia unit,
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另一个儿子加入了塔利班,
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another joined the Taliban,
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而两个小儿子则被招进了政府军。
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and her two youngest
were recruited by the army.
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这张照片里,她正指着自己喉咙上
一处外露的伤口。
03:40
Here she is revealing an open
wound on her throat,
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医生说这伤口是悲痛留下的。
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a wound that doctors believe
is caused by grief.
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我们还去参观了阿富汗国家音乐学院,
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During my visit to Afghanistan's
National Institute of Music,
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那是阿富汗第一所,
也是唯一一所音乐学校,
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the first and only music
school in Afghanistan,
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我在那儿见到了 17 岁的苏布,
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I met 17-year-old Sumbul,
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一位杰出的小提琴手。
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a brilliant violinist.
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她是这代年轻人的一个典型,
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She is the symbol of this generation
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在相对自由的环境中成长起来,
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that came of age with relative freedom
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却又在一夜之间失去了一切。
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and was robbed of it overnight.
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苏布一家人
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Sumbul’s family
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住在阿富汗一处人迹罕至之所。
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come from one of the most
inaccessible regions of Afghanistan.
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塔利班曾多次挟持苏布的父亲,
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Her father was kidnapped
several times by the Taliban,
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逼他让他的女儿们从音乐学院退学。
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being pressured to pull [his] daughters
out of music school.
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喀布尔陷落之后,
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After the fall of Kabul,
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塔利班武装分子袭击了
阿富汗国家音乐学院,
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Taliban fighters raided and ANIM school.
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毁掉了所有的乐器。
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Instruments were destroyed.
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8 月 26 日,
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On August 26,
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苏布和她舅舅正在机场外等待着,
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Sumbul and her uncle
were outside of the airport
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成千上万绝望的阿富汗人都聚在那里,
试图逃走。
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among thousands of desperate
Afghans trying to flee
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突然,一枚自杀式炸弹在人群中爆炸。
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when a suicide bomb
ripped through the crowd.
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苏布从那场袭击中活了下来,
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Sumbul survived the attack,
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但她在阿富汗国内
演出的梦想就此破灭,
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but her dream of performing
inside Afghanistan vanished
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就像那天的
170 位逝者一样,永远消失了。
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like 170 people who died
all around her that day.
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在那最后一个夏天,
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Over the course of that final summer,
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我们目睹了整个阿富汗
迅速落入塔利班之手。
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we watched as the country rapidly
fell into the hands of Taliban.
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我的一位同事
在当时负责追踪陷落地区。
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One of my colleague's tasks was to keep
track of the fallen district.
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另一位同事则清点阵亡的人数。
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Another to count the fallen men.
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我们难以置信地看着这个国家在 20 年以来
取得的各项进步——女性权利,教育事业,
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We watched in disbelief as 20 years
of progress in women's rights, education,
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言论自由等等——
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freedom of expression
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在仅仅 20 天内毁于一旦。
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disappeared in 20 days.
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8 月 15 日,也就是塔利班攻陷喀布尔的那天,
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On August 15, the day
that Taliban took over Kabul,
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我在凌晨 4 点离开了住宅,
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I left the house at 4am
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前往机场去拍摄阿富汗的人们,
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and headed to the airport
to photograph Afghans
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那些早已预见到塔利班的胜利,
绝望中试图逃离的阿富汗人。
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who were desperately trying to leave
in anticipation of Taliban's victory.
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中午时分,塔利班武装分子还在街头行进,
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By noon, Taliban fighters
were marching on the streets,
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而到了傍晚,
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and by early evening,
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他们就已经占领了总统府。
05:30
they had taken over
the presidential palace.
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我这辈子做过最难的一个决定
就是那天选择离开了阿富汗。
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It was one of the most difficult decisions
of my life to leave that day.
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我们冲到机场时,
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As we were dashing to the airport,
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成百上千的人涌上街头,
朝四面八方跑去。
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hundreds of people came to the street,
running in every direction.
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我永远忘不了他们脸上的恐慌。
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I will never forget
the panic on their faces.
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我自己也很痛苦,很愧疚,
因为我就要离开了,也能够离开。
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I myself was grappling with immense guilt
for leaving and being able to leave.
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我也很伤心,
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I was also heartbroken,
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因为我知道我再也不会回去了,
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thinking that I could never return,
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再也不会回到
对我影响至深的那片家园,
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return to this home that has shaped me,
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那个不仅把我培养成了一名摄影师,
更是教会我做人的故乡。
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not only as a photographer,
but a human being.
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许多阿富汗人都被悲痛击垮,
被恐惧折磨,
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Many Afghans have been devastated
and overwhelmed with grief and fear
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陷落以来一直如此。
最近我又联系了苏布和哈菲扎,
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since the fall.
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06:09
I recently caught up
with Sumbul and Hafiza
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问他们陷落以来都去了何方,
06:11
to see where they ended up after the fall.
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我得知苏布正在欧洲追逐她的梦想,
试图抚平自己伤痕累累的灵魂;
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Sumbul is healing her scarred soul
while pursuing her dream in Europe.
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哈菲扎则回到了她的村子,
和几个儿子一起度日。
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Hafiza had gone back to her village
to spend some time with her sons.
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战争留下的伤口还远未弥合。
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The wound has not healed yet.
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但我还是抱有希望,
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Yet I have to hang on to hope.
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希望这个饱经忧患的国家
有朝一日能重新找到光明。
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Hope for a country with open wounds
that is struggling to heal.
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谢谢大家。
06:33
Thank you.
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(掌声)
06:34
(Applause)
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肖汉姆·阿拉德:我有几个问题。
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Shoham Arad: I have a couple of questions.
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我现在有点情绪化,请不用在意。
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I'm a little emotional,
it's not a big deal.
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自你离开阿富汗之后,还有机会回去过,
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You've gone back
to Afghanistan since you left.
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能不能和我们说说,
那里现在的局势怎么样?
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Can you tell us
what it feels like right now?
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琪亚娜·海耶里:
阿富汗现在的形势非常严峻。
06:53
Kiana Hayeri: The situation is very grim.
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我想或许这就是
结束战争要付出的代价吧。
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I guess war has ended, but at a cost.
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贫困是首当其冲的问题,
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But poverty is shooting out the roof,
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人们吃不饱饭,
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people are hungry,
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女孩儿不能去高中上学,
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girls are banned from going to school,
girls in high school.
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成年女性也被剥夺了工作。
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Women are stripped from their jobs.
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形势真的十分严峻。
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It's very grim.
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肖汉姆·阿拉德:
我知道你真的很爱这个国家。
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SA: I know you love this country a lot.
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那么能不能说说你想让人们知道,
或者引起人们思考的,
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What's one thing you want
people to know or think about
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有关阿富汗的事情呢?
07:20
when they think about Afghanistan?
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琪亚娜·海耶里:
现在很多的阿富汗人都跑到国外去了,
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KH: There are many Afghans
arriving abroad,
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他们去了西方,去了美国,去了加拿大。
07:25
in the West, in America, in Canada.
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请向他们敞开大门吧,
他们经受了太多苦难,
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Open your doors to them,
they've been through a lot,
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他们承受了太多创伤,
他们所拥有的一切都被夺走了,
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they've been traumatized,
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they've been stripped
from everything they had,
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甚至失去了自己的身份。
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even their identities.
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请您将他们迎到家里坐坐,
牵着他们的手,
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Welcome them in [your] homes,
take their hands,
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帮助他们安顿下来,
找到家的感觉。
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help them to settle,
make them feel at home.
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如果愿意的话,您也可以参与救助行动。
07:41
Also, get involved if you want.
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现在有许多组织
都为救助阿富汗而努力着,
07:43
There are organizations
that are doing stuff,
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尤其是阿富汗国内的女性教育事业。
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especially for girls education
back in Afghanistan.
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您可以加入这些组织,捐助善款,
或花时间做些志愿活动,
07:48
Get involved, donate money,
volunteer your time,
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为那些逃到这里的阿富汗人,
07:51
either with people who are arriving here
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或是仍在阿富汗的人们做些事情。
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or back in Afghanistan.
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肖汉姆·阿拉德:谢谢你,琪亚娜。
琪亚娜·海耶里:谢谢大家。
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SA: Thanks, Kiana.
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(掌声)
07:56
KH: Thank you.
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07:57
(Applause)
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