Bravery, Brilliance and RuPaul Charles | On the Spot | TED

翻译人员: Sue Lu 校对人员: Yanyan Hong

Hello, darlings.

亲爱的观众们好，让我们来尝试 一个全新的节目形式，“现场直击”。

Now we're going to do a new format here, which is "On the Spot," I'm told,

it's "On the Spot."

对，现场直击。

And I will be answering a series of questions.

我将回答一系列问题。

So we'll see how this goes, alright?

那么，让我们拭目以待，如何？

Let's start with our first question.

从第一个问题开始。

And again, I have 10 minutes.

再说一遍，我有 10 分钟。

So we'll see, I bet I can do it faster than 10 minutes.

瞧着吧，我敢打赌用不了 10 分钟。

Define bravery.

定义勇敢。

Define bravery.

定义勇敢。

I think bravery is the ability to follow your bliss

我认为勇敢就是 能够追随自己的幸福，

and make no excuses for that, alright?

并且不为此找任何借口，对吧？

Define brilliance.

定义才华。

I think allowing yourself to be a vessel, a channel,

就是让自己成为一个载体、渠道，

so that the source can work through you, and you align yourself with that source.

这样源泉就能通过你源远流长， 而你也能与之同流共进。

I think that's brilliance.

我认为这就是才华。

(Applause)

（掌声）

What's the power of drag?

变装的力量是什么？

Now the power of drag,

变装的力量，

it's like the Superman suit to Clark Kent.

就像克拉克·肯特穿的超人服，

It allows you to expand your idea of who you are, of what you are.

它能让你扩展对自己的认识： 你是谁，你的特质是什么。

And it's a very simple trick, and it works.

这是个简单技巧，且行之有效。

I recommend everybody try it, tonight.

我建议大家都尝试一下，今晚就试。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

What's the best way to slay?

怎样才能做到出类拔萃？

Know thyself, be thyself.

认识你自己，做你自己。

You are the best version of you, so you can slay that way.

你就是最好的自己， 所以就用这种方式出众。

I get a round of applause for that.

我的答案得到掌声了。

Thank you, over here.

谢谢这边的听众。

What's the first thing you notice about someone?

你首先注意到他人的是什么？

I notice their aura.

我注意到他们的气质。

I can see, I can sense what they're about, what they want.

我能看到，感觉到他们的意图和渴求。

You know, for years, I learned how to sort of shape-shift myself

多年来，我学会了 如何改变自己的形态，

into what I felt someone needed from me.

变成他人需要的样子。

Listen, not the greatest thing in the world to do,

听着，这不是世界上最棒的事，

because you leave a little bit of yourself behind.

因为你会丢失一点自己。

But it sure did teach me a lot

但是，它确实教会了我很多，

about reading someone's character, you know,

关于读懂他人的性格，

and my own character.

和我自己的性格。

Alright.

好吧。

What trait do you most value?

你最看重什么品质？

A sense of humor, people.

伙计们，幽默感。

A sense of humor.

幽默感。

My favorite thing to do in the world is to laugh.

在这世上，我最喜欢做的就是笑。

My favorite thing in the world to do is to laugh.

我最喜欢做的就是笑。

And I've done a lot of things.

我做过很多事情。

But if you have a sense of humor.

但是如果你有幽默感，

Yeah, because I think if you have a sense of humor, you get it.

是啊，如果你有幽默感，你就会明白，

This is all an illusion, OK?

这都是幻觉，OK？

(Laughter)

（笑声）

Don't take any of it too seriously, alright?

不要对任何事太当真，好吧？

What's the wisest way to be an adult?

什么是最明智的成人之道？

Well, to be an adult,

嗯，作为成人，

you have to be able to keep your mouth closed.

你必须，嗯，能够闭嘴。

Because there's a lot of things you want to say in situations,

因为在很多情况下， 你会有许多话想说，

but an adult knows better.

但是，作为成人你知道该怎么做。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

You know, it's true.

你知道，这是真的，

It's true.

真的。

You can't say everything to everybody.

你不能对所有人说出一切。

You really, just, you can't.

真的，你不能够的，

I wish we could.

虽然我希望我们能够。

I wish we could, but we can't.

我希望我们能够，但我们不能。

If there's one thing you want AI to keep in mind, what is it?

如果你希望 AI 记住 一件事，那会是什么？

I don't like that question.

我不喜欢这个问题。

(Laughter and applause)

（笑声和掌声）

Which of your dreams have not yet come true?

你的哪个梦想还没有成真？

I would love to be able to put together a retail storyline

我希望能够整合出一个零售故事情节，

that is just as magnificent as Patagonia and Esprit

像服装品牌巴塔哥尼亚和 埃斯普林特那样精彩的，

and all the things they've done.

他们所做的一切都很棒。

我很想做成这件事， 也许还有时间。

I'd love to do that.

Maybe there's time.

是啊，哦，嗨。

Yeah, oh, hi.

（笑声）

(Laughter)

说再见的最好方式是什么？

What's the best way to say goodbye?

I really don't like saying goodbye.

我真的不喜欢说再见。

I never have.

我从来没说过。

But I've learned to be in the moment

但我已学会活在当下，

and to actually acknowledge someone

真心认可那个人

and the time that we spent together.

以及我们共同度过的时光。

I've learned how to to sit in that.

我已学会置身其中静心体验。

I think I was always too sensitive, so I never liked to say goodbye.

我想我总是太敏感了， 所以从来不喜欢说再见。

So the best way to say goodbye

因此，说再见的最好方式

is to do it deliberately and to acknowledge that,

是刻意说再见，并承认

you know, this could be the last time I ever see you.

这可能是我最后一次见到你。

So, you know, I'm going to acknowledge that and stay in the moment.

所以，我会接受这点并置身当下。

Oh.

哦。

[Thank you for being on the spot, RuPaul!]

[感谢你参与“现场直击”，RuPaul！]

(Applause and cheers)

（掌声和欢呼）

That's great.

太棒了。

That's fantastic.

好极了。

Come on up here.

请过来这里。

That was going to be 10 minutes,

本来是 10 分钟，

and I have four minutes and 37 seconds left.

现在我还剩下 4 分 37 秒。

Helen Walters: You want to chat?

海伦·沃尔特斯：你想聊聊吗？

RC：你呢？

RC: You want to?

HW：那就聊聊？ RC：好的。

HW: Shall we? RC: Let's do it.

HW: OK, who has a question for RuPaul?

HW：OK，谁有问题要问 RuPaul？

RC: Oh, I thought you were going to chat with me.

RC：哦，我还以为你要和我聊聊，

原来是回答观众的问题？

Questions from the audience?

HW：为什么不呢？ RC：好吧，我来告诉你为什么不。

HW: Why not?

RC: Well, I'll tell you why not.

(Laughter)

（笑声）

I don't think in all the years I've taken questions from the audience,

我想这些年来我没让观众提过问，

mostly people like to make comments.

主要是人们太喜欢发表评论。

HW: That's true.

HW：确实如此。

RC: And we don't really want comments.

RC：而我们并不需要评论。

HW: No, that's true, that's true.

HW：对的，没错，确实如此。

RC：也许你和我 应该想出几个问题来问我。

RC: Maybe you and I should come up with a few questions to ask me.

HW: What would you like to tell everyone?

HW：你想告诉大家什么？

RC: OK, alright.

RC：OK，好吧。

RuPaul, what is the best piece of advice you've ever gotten?

鲁保罗，你得到过的最好建议是什么？

HW: That's a good question.

HW：这是个好问题。

RC: Thank you.

RC：谢谢。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

My 10th grade teacher, Mr. Parnell in Atlanta, Georgia.

我的 10 年级老师， 乔治亚州亚特兰大的帕内尔先生，

He said, "RuPaul," my real name.

他说：“鲁保罗”，我的真名，

"Do not take life too seriously."

“不要太把生活当回事。”

The emphasis on "too."

重点是 “太”。

He actually used some dirty language in there,

他实际上还用了些脏话，

and you can fill in the blanks where he put it.

你可以自己填补他的脏话空白。

HW: You could also swear on this stage, it's fine.

HW：你也可以在这儿讲脏话的，没事。

RC：不，不，亲爱的， 这里可能有基督徒的孩子。

RC: No, no, darling, there may be Christian children here, darling.

HW: There are none, I can guarantee it.

HW：我可以保证，没有的。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

RC: But no, it was the best advice at the time.

RC：还是不了。 这是当时最好的建议。

I was in 10th grade.

我当时在读 10 年级。

You know, I flunked the 10th grade.

你知道吗，我 10 年级不及格，

I repeated the 10th grade,

所以复读了 10 年级，

and then I dropped out in the 11th grade.

然后在 11 年级就退学了。

But of all the time I spent in school,

但是在学校度过的所有时光中，

that was the most valuable lesson I ever learned.

这是我学到的最宝贵一课。

And as the years went on,

随着岁月的流逝，

it became more and more valuable.

它变得越来越有价值。

Because ... it's like we are actors on a stage.

因为…… 我们就像是 舞台上的演员一样。

And it's as if the actors believe, say, "Twelfth Night,"

演员们似乎真的相信， 比如说在《第十二夜》，

some Shakespeare thing.

一个莎士比亚的剧作里，

The actors actually believe

演员们真的认为

they are the characters they're playing, you know.

他们就是自己扮演的角色。

And drag and laughter and all those things

变装、笑声以及所有那些

shake it up to say, "Hey, kiddo,

会将之颠覆，仿佛在说：“嘿，孩子，

you know, you're only playing a role.

知道吗，你只是在扮演一个角色。

This show will close.

这场演出终将结束，

And we're going to go on to another show and another show

我们接着要去另一场演出，

一场接着一场， 一切都会很美妙。”

and another show, and it's going to be fabulous."

HW: Yes, it sure is.

HW：是的，确实如此。

RC: So don't get too invested in "Twelfth Night," darling.

RC：所以不要在《第十二夜》 投入太多，亲爱的。

HW: So RuPaul?

HW：那么，鲁保罗？

RuPaul is your real name.

鲁保罗是你的真名。

Why did your mom call you RuPaul?

你妈妈为什么叫你鲁保罗？

RC: Well, you know, listen, I will answer that question.

RC：嗯，听着，我会答这个问题。

I just want to say, if there are any people who want to get into show business,

我只想说，如果有人想进入演艺界，

一定不要使用真名。

do not use your real name.

It's my real name because it ends up on all of your public papers

这是我的真名，它最终 出现在我所有的公开文件

and all that stuff.

以及所有那一类的东西上。

And you know, you're at the gynecologist or in the dentist chair

当你在看妇科医生或牙医时，

and they know all your business, you know.

他们知道你所有的事情。

But my mother,

但是我的母亲，

my mother saw a psychic when she was pregnant with me.

她在怀我时见了一个通灵者。

And the psychic said, "You're going to have a boy,

通灵者说： “你要生一个男孩，

and he's going to be famous."

他会出名的。”

So my mother thought, "You know,

于是我母亲就想：

I'm going to name him RuPaul Andre Charles,

“我要给他起名鲁保罗·安德烈·查尔斯 （RuPaul Andre Charles），

because ain't another MF in the world with that name."

因为世上没有 另一个人叫这名字。”

(Laughter)

（笑声）

Yeah, my real name.

是啊，我的真名，

People call me Ru, though.

但是人们通常叫我鲁。

HW: Who is your favorite person on the planet?

HW：谁是你在地球上最喜欢的人？

RC: My best friend, who I happen to be married to.

RC：我最好的朋友， 我碰巧和他结了婚。

His name is Georges LeBar, and he's so lovely and kind.

他名叫乔治·勒巴（Georges LeBar）， 既可爱又善良。

I think the greatest attribute that humans can have is kindness.

我认为人类能拥有的 最了不起的品质是善良。

That's number one, number two is a fat ass.

这是第一个，第二个是大屁股。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

But and he's got both.

他两者兼而有之。

He's Australian.

他是澳大利亚人，

He's absolutely lovely.

绝对很可爱。

He's lovely.

非常可爱。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

HW: OK, we have 45 seconds, I'm not stopping.

HW：好吧，我们还有 45 秒， 我不会停下来。

What's your favorite thing about television?

你最喜欢电视的什么？

RC: Oh my gosh, I learned everything I know from television,

RC：天啊，我从电视里学到了 我所知道的一切，

I love it.

我太喜欢电视了。

I'm watching a show called "Murder, She Wrote" right now.

我正在看一档名为 《她写了谋杀》的节目。

It's about 45 years old, and I can't get enough of it.

大约播了 45 年了， 我还是没看够，

I can't get enough of it, I love it.

一直追这档节目，非常喜欢。

Murder, she sat down and she wrote.

谋杀，她坐下后，提笔娓娓道来。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

Alright, ladies and gentlemen, it has been so much fun.

好吧，女士们、先生们， 今天太开心了。

HW: Thank you, Ru.

HW：谢谢你，鲁。

RC: Thank you so much. Give love to somebody.

RC：非常感谢 [海伦] 。 各位，去分享爱吧。

(Applause and cheers)

（掌声和欢呼）