Lasting Conservation, Led by Indigenous Heritage | Adjany Costa | TED

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翻译人员: JENNY SUN 校对人员: Yip Yan Yeung
00:03
Imagine if you live at the center of a global conservation spotlight,
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想象一下,如果你生活在 全球保护焦点的中心,
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but you have no voice.
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但你却没有发言权。
00:12
Your aspirations are not valid,
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你的愿望是无效的,
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and your knowledge does not count.
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你的知识也不算数。
00:18
Sadly, this happens very often in local communities of key ecosystems
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可悲的是,这种情况经常发生在 主要生态系统的当地社区,
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around the world.
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遍及世界各地。
00:24
In conservation, my field of work,
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在保护领域,也就是我的工作领域,
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I call it community-based conservation washing,
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我把它称为“以社区为基础的保护”清洗,
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which is basically when conservation organizations
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这基本上就是当保护组织
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claim to work for communities
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声称为社区工作,
00:36
only to inform and impose pre-designed conservation plans
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只是为了告知和强制实行 预先设计好的保护计划,
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instead of including them,
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而不是将社区居民考虑在内,
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misguiding media and funding sources.
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这会误导媒体和资金支援。
00:44
Think of greenwashing, and then apply it to conservation.
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想一想 “漂绿“, 然后将其应用于保护。
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Hopefully we can all agree that approach is not right,
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希望我们都能同意 这种做法是不对的,
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and it needs to be tackled.
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它需要被解决。
00:54
And how about we start
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我们可不可以
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by twisting classic community-based conservation questions upside down?
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彻底颠覆以往基于社区的保护问题?
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Say, instead of wondering how to bring science
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与其琢磨如何把科学
01:04
and policy to communities,
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和政策带入社区,
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how about we find a way to bring the voice
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不如我们找到一种方法, 把社区的声音
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and centenary knowledge of communities to research and policy making?
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和沉淀百年的知识带入 研究和政策制定中去?
01:15
But see, the answer to such questions is never a one-size-fits-all solution,
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但是请注意,这种问题的答案从来都不是 一个放之四海而皆准的解决方案,
01:21
because it needs to be tailored to the unique environmental,
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因为它需要根据每个社区独特的环境、
01:25
social and economic realities of each community.
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社会和经济实际情况进行调整。
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Let me give you some context.
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让我给你一些背景信息。
01:31
I get to work in one of the most incredible wetland systems on Earth.
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我曾经在地球上最不可思议的 湿地系统之一工作。
01:37
The sources of the Kavango Zambezi Transfrontier Conservation area,
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卡万戈-赞比西河(Kavango Zambezi) 跨越边界保护区的发源地。
01:41
KAZA for short.
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简称“卡赞”(KAZA)。
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But now KAZA spreads through five countries
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但现在,“卡赞”覆盖五个国家,
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and is home to iconic African wildlife,
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囊括非洲代表性的野生生态、
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incredible landscapes, like the Okavango Delta,
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美不胜收的风景, 如奥卡万戈(Okavango)三角洲,
01:52
and up to 2.5 million people.
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和多达 250 万人口的家园。
01:57
Its sources in eastern Angola are the heart, the lungs
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它在安哥拉(Angola)东部的源头是 整个“卡赞”的心脏、肺部
02:01
and the backbone of the entire KAZA,
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和骨干,
02:04
yet they’re unprotected.
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但它们却没有得到保护。
02:06
In one of the many research trips I've done to the area,
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在我对该地区进行的 多次研究旅行中,
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I met Mama Lerógio,
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我遇到了 莱罗吉奥(Lerógio)女士,
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the oldest lady of a Luchaze village,
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卢卡兹(Luchaze)村 最年长的女士,
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and she was genuinely surprised to still see me alive.
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看到我还活着,她真的很惊讶。
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She told me the story of the Mukissi,
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她给我讲了 姆基斯(Mukissi)的故事,
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this mythical, giant snake-like creature
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神话中的巨蛇状生物,
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that protects the rivers and thus life.
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保护着河流,从而保护着生命。
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And she told me that if the Mukissi spared me, my life,
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她告诉我,如果姆基斯放过我, 我的生命,
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after spending four months in dugout canoes
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当我在独木舟上呆了四个月后,
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from the sources to the Okavango delta in Botswana,
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从源头到博茨瓦纳奥卡万戈三角洲,
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it meant it trusted me.
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这意味着它信任我。
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And if it did, so could they, the Luchaze people.
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如果是这样, 他们卢卡兹人也可以做到。
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But see, most Luchaze children do not know of the Mukissi
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但是,大多数卢卡兹的孩子 不知道姆基斯
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or any other local tale.
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或任何当地故事。
02:50
And that is because the 40-plus year-long war they have endured
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这是因为他们所经历的 长达 40 多年的战争
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has created a gap in storytelling
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造成了讲故事方面的空白,
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and has stripped away ownership of their heritage.
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并剥夺了他们对传统的所有权。
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So now the ancient wisdom,
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因此,古老的智慧,
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which is key to stewardship,
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也就是管理工作的关键,
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is locked in the older, disappearing generations.
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被封闭在老一辈人身上, 消失在代代流传中。
03:12
And so we started this journey to bring back these stories
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因此,我们开始了这个过程, 以找回这些故事,
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as an effort to restore pride and ownership.
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努力重拾自豪感 和曾经拥有的东西。
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Oral storytelling has always played a fundamental role,
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口口相传一直发挥着重要作用,
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not only in African culture but in conservation efforts, too.
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不仅在非洲文化中, 而且在保护工作中也是如此。
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We also do mapping exercises
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我们还进行绘图练习,
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to help villagers visualize the influence and impact not only of their land,
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来帮助村民直观了解其中的作用 和巨大影响,不仅是他们的土地,
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but also of their daily actions beyond their geographic reach.
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还有他们在地理范围以外的日常行动。
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To give them a sense of importance
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给他们一种被重视的感觉,
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to counteract how they felt abandoned all these years.
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以抵消他们这些年来被抛弃的感觉。
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And we also help give them back the power of decision
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我们还帮助他们重新获得决策权,
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by instigating curiosity
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通过激发他们尝试
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on alternative livelihoods that they can trial on.
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其他维持生计方式的好奇心。
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All of this in an effort to bring back ownership of their heritage
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所有这些努力都是为了 让他们重新拥有自己的遗产,
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and make them stewards of their own land
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使他们成为自己土地
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and also of their own future.
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和自己未来的管理者。
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But see, through the years,
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但是请看,通过这些年,
04:13
that trust that I've mentioned before, grew stronger.
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我之前提到的那种信任, 变得越来越强。
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So now they scold me, they teach, they feed, they protect me,
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所以现在他们骂我,他们教我, 他们喂我,他们保护我,
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they tell me secrets of their traditions.
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他们告诉我他们传统的秘密。
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Children tease me and call me names,
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孩子们取笑我,给我起绰号,
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but I will never be one of them.
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但我永远不会成为他们中的一员。
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And thus they will never fully, truly trust me.
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因此,他们永远不会完全、 真正地信任我。
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But that is the point of this whole talk.
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但这正是整个演讲的重点。
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They're not supposed to trust me, you
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他们不应该相信我、你
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or anyone else coming in with a grand plan to save the world.
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或其他任何带着拯救世界的 宏伟计划而来的人。
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They're supposed to trust themselves.
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他们应该相信他们自己。
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Real community-based conservation
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真正的以社区为基础的保护
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goes much beyond ensuring an elder has a ceremonial seat at the table
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远远超出了确保长者在餐桌上 有一个礼仪性的席位
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and is interviewed.
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并接受采访。
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It fosters fierce independence, doesn't further dependency.
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它培养了强烈的独立性, 而不是进一步的依赖。
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Lasting conservation comes from within.
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持久的保护来自内部。
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From believing, from belonging, from dreaming.
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来自相信,来自归属感,来自梦想。
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So whether you are a conservationist yourself
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因此,无论你自己是环保主义者,
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or a donor or a media outlet,
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还是一个捐赠者或一个媒体机构,
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or maybe just plain curious,
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或者只是单纯的好奇,
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let's be vessels for that,
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让我们成为这方面的载体,
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for stewardship, for ownership,
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为了管理,为了所有权,
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for pride.
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为了自豪感。
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Don’t just tick the boxes.
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不要只是在方框里打勾。
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Ask the difficult questions.
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要问一些困难的问题。
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And always wonder:
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并始终思考。
05:29
Are we working for communities
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我们是“为”社区工作
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or with communities?
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还是“与”社区一起工作?
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Thank you.
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谢谢你。
05:37
(Applause)
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