How to have a healthier, positive relationship with sex | Tiffany Kagure Mugo and Siphumeze Khundayi

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2018-03-15 ใƒป TED


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How to have a healthier, positive relationship with sex | Tiffany Kagure Mugo and Siphumeze Khundayi

106,129 views ใƒป 2018-03-15

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Nae-Hee Kang ๊ฒ€ํ† : Jihyeon J. Kim
00:12
[This talk contains mature content Viewer discretion is advised]
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[์ด ๊ฐ•์—ฐ์€ ์„ฑ์ธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž์˜ ์ฃผ์˜๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.]
00:16
Tiffany Kagure Mugo: OK.
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์นด๊ตฌ์–ด ๋งˆ๊ณ (TKM): ๋„ค.
00:17
So we've signed up, there's no turning back now.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ์™”์œผ๋‹ˆ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ์„ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์—†๋„ค์š”.
(์›ƒ์Œ)
00:20
(Laughter)
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์ปจ๋ฐ์•„์ด(SK): ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„. TKM: ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
00:21
Siphumeze Khundayi: Hi, guys. TKM: Hello, everyone.
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00:23
TKM: So, you think you know about sex.
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TKM: ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์€ ๋ณธ์ธ์ด ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ฃ .
00:26
Chances are you don't,
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์ƒ๊ฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
00:28
and we are here to tell you that you don't.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ๋Ÿฌ ์˜จ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:30
SK: We are here to tell you that no matter where you come from,
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SK: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๋ ค๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋””์„œ ์™”๋“ 
00:34
Abuja to Alabama, Dubai to downtown London,
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์•„๋ถ€์ž๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์•Œ๋ผ๋ฐฐ๋งˆ, ๋‘๋ฐ”์ด๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋Ÿฐ๋˜ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์ง€๊นŒ์ง€
00:37
sex has and continues to change.
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์„ฑ์€ ๋Š˜ ๋ณ€ํ•ด์™”๊ณ  ๊ณ„์† ๋ณ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
00:40
And we need to understand this
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
00:41
if we're going to keep things safe and spicy.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์งœ๋ฆฟํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
00:44
TKM: So now, the act of rubbing our naked bodies together
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TKM: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฒ—์€ ๋ชธ์„ ์„œ๋กœ ๋ฌธ์ง€๋ฅด๋Š” ํ–‰๋™์—๋Š”
00:47
has undergone a number of changes.
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๋งŽ์€ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:49
And those changes have been affected by eons of ideas.
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๊ทธ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋“ค์€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ .
00:53
Even you, as an adult, have some internalized ideas about sex
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์„ฑ์ธ์ธ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์กฐ์ฐจ๋„, ์„ฑ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณธ ์  ์—†๋Š”
00:57
that you never challenge.
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๋‚ด๋ฉดํ™”๋œ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
00:58
Some good, some bad and some very, very strange.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ๊ณ , ๋‚˜์˜๊ณ , ์ •๋ง ์ •๋ง ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด์š”.
01:02
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
01:04
SK: So when you allow someone to see you butt naked,
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SK: ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ์•Œ๋ชธ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค„ ๋•Œ
01:06
do you ever think about how the ideas that you internally have
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๋‚ด ๋‚ด๋ฉดํ™”๋œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํŒ”๊ฟˆ์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ„์ง€๋Ÿฝํ˜€ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ
01:11
will affect whether you will like them tickling your elbow or kissing your thigh
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ํ—ˆ๋ฒ…์ง€์— ํ‚ค์Šคํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ํ˜น์€ ์‹ ์˜ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์™ธ์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ๋ญ˜ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์—
01:15
or shouting out the name of a chose deity?
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์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ผ์น  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ํ•ด๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
01:17
One must do internal monitoring and evaluation
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ตœ์„ ์˜ ์„น์‹œํ•œ ์‚ถ์„ ์‚ด๊ณ ์ž ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
01:20
if we are going to live our best sexy lives.
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์ž๊ธฐ ๊ฐ์‹œ์™€ ํ‰๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผ๋งŒ ํ•˜์ฃ .
01:24
TKM: And we're going to tell you how to have a great sex life, right?
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TKM: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์„ฑ์ƒํ™œ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ค„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:27
But the first thing you need to do
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋จผ์ € ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฑด
01:28
is let go of the bad ideas you have about sex.
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๋ณธ์ธ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‚˜์œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:32
SK: Think about the things that we need to change.
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SK: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
01:35
TKM: And the things we need to embrace in all of their shiny newness.
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TKM: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฒˆ๋œฉ์ด๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์›€์—์„œ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•  ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋“ค๋„์š”.
01:38
So, we're going to take you on a journey of sex:
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ฌ์ •์„ ๋– ๋‚˜๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
01:41
the bad parts of sex, historically great sexual practices
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์„ฑ์˜ ๋‚˜์œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๊ณผ ์—ญ์‚ฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์„ฑ์  ๊ด€ํ–‰๊ณผ
01:45
and the future of sex.
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์•ž์œผ๋กœ์˜ ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ฌ์ • ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
01:48
SK: Now, judging by the cool seven billion people on this planet,
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SK: ์ง€๊ตฌ์ƒ์— ์‚ฌ๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ 70์–ต ์ธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํŒ๋‹จํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฑด๋Œ€
01:53
human beings have been doing the sex thing for a long time.
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์ธ๋ฅ˜๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ์„น์Šค๋ฅผ ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:56
And in vast quantities.
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์—„์ฒญ ๋งŽ์ด๋„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
01:58
But this does not mean we are actually good at it.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„น์Šค๋ฅผ ์ž˜ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋œปํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:02
From the top of my head -- rape culture.
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๊ทธ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ๋กœ ๊ฐ•๊ฐ„ ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”.
02:05
TKM: How tradition and culture limit ideas of pleasure.
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TKM: ์ „ํ†ต๊ณผ ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ์พŒ๋ฝ์˜ ๊ฐœ๋…์„ ์ œํ•œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:09
SK: Or even the idea that the nipple
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SK: DJ๊ฐ€ ๋ณผ๋ฅจ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ฆด ๋•Œ
02:11
deserves the same treatment that a DJ gives his deck
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์Œํ–ฅ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์†Œ์ค‘ํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
02:14
when he's trying to turn up the volume.
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์œ ๋‘๋„ ๋Œ€์šฐ๋ฐ›์„ ์ž๊ฒฉ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์กฐ์ฐจ๋„ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
02:16
TKM: Like, that is a personal pet peeve of mine.
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TKM: ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ œ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๋ถˆ๋งŒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ˆ์š”.
02:19
SK: We are so scared of sex.
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SK: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„ฑ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
TKM: And we need somebody to blame for our fear.
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TKM: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‘๋ ค์›€์„ ํƒ“ํ•  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ฃ .
02:28
Enter women, and our fear of every part of their anatomy,
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๊ทธ ํ™”์‚ด์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‹ ์ฒด ๋ถ€์œ„๋กœ ํ–ฅํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:32
unless we are the ones using their sexiness.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ ๋ชธ์˜ ์„น์‹œํ•จ์„ ๋ˆ„๋ฆด ๋•Œ๋Š” ์˜ˆ์™ธ์ง€๋งŒ์š”.
02:35
SK: Think about it.
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SK: ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
02:36
You can quite easily go to someone and say, "My elbow hurts."
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ "์ œ ํŒ”๊ฟˆ์น˜๊ฐ€ ์•„ํŒŒ์š”" ๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋งค์šฐ ์‰ฝ์ฃ .
02:39
But try going to someone and saying,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
02:41
"Excuse me, my vagina has a strange buzzing feeling,
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โ€œ์‹ค๋ก€ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์งˆ์ด ์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์œ™์œ™๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋“ค์–ด์š”."
02:44
do you know where I can find the buzzing-vagina ointment?"
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"์งˆ์ด ์ด๋Ÿด ๋•Œ ๋ฐ”๋ฅด๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ณ ๋Š” ์–ด๋””์„œ ์‚ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?โ€
02:47
And see how well that goes down.
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๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ˆœํƒ„ํ• ์ง€๋„์š”.
02:50
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
02:51
TKM: Does not go down well.
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TKM: ์ „ํ˜€ ์ˆœํƒ„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:53
I once challenged friends to simply go into supermarkets
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์ €๋Š” ์˜ˆ์ „์— ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์Šˆํผ๋งˆ์ผ“์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
02:56
and say to strangers, "Thighs."
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ โ€œํ—ˆ๋ฒ…์ง€โ€๋ผ ๋งํ•ด๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ  ์‹œ์ผฐ์–ด์š”.
02:59
No one did it,
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์•ˆ ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
03:00
despite the fact that they could have been talking about chicken or turkey.
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๋‹ญ์ด๋‚˜ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ์˜ ํ—ˆ๋ฒ…์ง€๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ํ…๋ฐ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
03:04
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
03:05
SK: So a number of cultural and historical notions
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SK: ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฌธํ™”์  ์—ญ์‚ฌ์  ๊ด€๋…๋“ค์ด
03:07
have burrowed so deeply within us,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•ˆ์— ๊นŠ์ด ๋ฟŒ๋ฆฌ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์„œ
03:10
we don't even notice that it's strange to freak out when somebody says "nipple"
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด "์™ผ์ชฝ ๋ฌด๋ฆŽ"์€ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์ง€๋งŒ "์œ ๋‘"์—๋Š” ๊ธฐ๊ฒ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ
03:14
as opposed to "left knee."
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์ด์ƒํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š์ฃ .
03:15
We refuse to engage with sex properly.
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์„ฑ์„ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋งˆ์ฃผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊ฑฐ๋ถ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
03:18
And the first step is admitting that it exists
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๊ทธ ์ฒซ ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋Š” ์„ฑ์ด ์ƒ์ˆ˜๋‚˜ ์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ํŒŒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
03:21
outside of trying to sell us products like bottled water or coffee.
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์†Œ๋น„๋˜๋Š” ์‚ฌํšŒ ์™ธ์—๋„ ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:25
The unrealistic depictions in movies
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์˜ํ™”๋‚˜ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์—์„œ "์–ด์ฉŒ๋‹ค" ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋œ
03:28
or that one thing that you saw on the internet "by mistake."
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๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์™ธ์—๋„ ์กด์žฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
03:31
TKM: Mhm.
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TKM: ๋งž์•„์š”.
03:33
So, now in order to cure this ailment, again,
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์ด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ณ‘์„ ์น˜๋ฃŒํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
03:36
let us just first admit that we have some messed-up ideas of sex.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์—‰๋ง์ง„์ฐฝ์ธ ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์šฐ์„  ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ž…์‹œ๋‹ค.
03:40
SK: And breathe in --
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SK: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆจ์„ ๋“ค์ด์‰ฌ๊ณ 
03:41
(Inhales)
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(๋“ค์ˆจ)
03:43
And let it all go.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋‚ด๋ฑ‰์œผ์„ธ์š”.
03:46
Now, it all seems pretty morbid --
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๊ฝค ์„ฌ๋œฉํ•œ ์ผ์ด์ฃ .
03:49
that culture and society have failed us in our quest for coitus.
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๋ฌธํ™”์™€ ์‚ฌํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์„ฑ๊ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํƒ์ƒ‰์„ ์‹คํŒจํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
03:54
But this is not the case.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ผญ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง„ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:55
There are things that the past can teach us
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ํ˜„์žฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋” ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
03:57
to help us upgrade the present.
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๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
04:00
TKM: So now, if I had a glass of Merlot -- which I really wish I did --
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TK: ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ”๋ฅผ๋กœ ํฌ๋„์ฃผ ํ•œ ์ž”์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค. ์ง„์งœ ์žˆ์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ์š”.
04:04
I would pour the ancestors a drink,
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์กฐ์ƒ๋‹˜๊ป˜ ํ•œ ์ž” ๋”ฐ๋ผ๋“œ๋ฆด ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:06
because there are ways in which African societies
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์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ๋Š” 'ใ……'์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ž…์— ๋‹ด์ง€ ๋ชปํ• 
04:09
huddled this sex thing before the C that shall not be named --
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๊ทธ ์ผ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ด์ „์— ์ด๋ฏธ ์„ฑ์„ ํฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
04:12
SK: (Whispering) Colonization.
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SK: (์†์‚ญ์ด๋ฉฐ) ์‹๋ฏผ์ง€ํ™”์˜ˆ์š”.
04:13
TKM: Came through.
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TKM: ์ด๋ฏธ ์ง€๋‚˜์™”์ฃ .
04:14
Within African societies, we had spaces, both social and spiritual,
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์„ฑ์  ๊ด€์Šต์„ ์ œ๋„ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”
04:19
that helped institutionalize healthy sexual practices.
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์‚ฌํšŒ์ , ์ •์‹ ์  ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:23
We had sexuality schools that taught social and erotic cues.
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์„ฑํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ์‚ฌํšŒ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์—๋กœํ‹ฑํ•œ ์•”์‹œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณค์ฃ .
04:28
We had spaces where teenagers could engage, understand
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์ฒญ์†Œ๋…„๋“ค์ด ์„ฑ์š•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋ฉฐ
04:31
and like, properly know how to handle sexual urges,
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์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์กฐ์ ˆํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
04:35
and places where adults could handle the stresses and strifes of adulting.
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์„ฑ์ธ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋ฅธ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์—์„œ ์˜ค๋Š” ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค์™€ ๋ถˆํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:40
SK: Ways that didn't include you hiding your credit card bill
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SK: ์‹ ์šฉ์นด๋“œ ๋ช…์„ธ์„œ๋ฅผ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ˆ˜์‹ ์ž ๋ถ€๋‹ด์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์—ˆ๋˜
04:43
or deleting that toll-free number from your phone.
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๊ธฐ๋ก์„ ์‚ญ์ œํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ฃ .
04:45
These spaces of old were so important for women.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์˜ค๋ž˜๋œ ์žฅ์†Œ๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:49
TKM: There were African sexual practices that centered women
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TKM: ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์—๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ ํŠนํžˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์„
04:52
and in particular, their pleasure.
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์ค‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์„ฑ์  ๊ด€์Šต๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:54
SK: And we're going to talk about one in particular
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SK: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ
04:56
that's named "osunality."
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"์˜ค์Šˆ๋„๋ฆฌํ‹ฐ"์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ ค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:58
TKM: Also known as the African erotic.
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TKM: ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ์—๋กœํ‹ฑํ•จ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ ธ ์žˆ์ฃ .
05:01
Yes, my people, welcome to the Thunderdome.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ์ฌ๋”๋”์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฑธ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:04
The erotic takes on different shapes and forms
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์ง€๊ตฌ์ƒ์—๋Š” ์ €๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ์–‘๊ณผ ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜
05:07
as you travel the globe.
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์—๋กœํ‹ฑํ•จ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
05:09
Now let's take a bow to the "Kama Sutra,"
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์šฐ์„  ์„ฑ์ƒํ™œ์˜ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃฌ
05:11
the world's first book on the pleasures of sensual living.
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์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ฑ…์ธ "์นด๋งˆ์ˆ˜ํŠธ๋ผ"์— ๊ฒฝ๋ฐฐํ•ฉ์‹œ๋‹ค.
05:15
More than just a mere depiction of contortionist sexual positions,
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์ด ์ฑ…์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๊ณก์˜ˆ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์ฒด์œ„ ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌ๋งŒ ๋‹ด์€ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
05:20
it provided a comprehensive guide on living a good life.
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์‚ถ์„ ์ž˜ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ข…ํ•ฉ์ ์ธ ์ง€์นจ์„ ์ œ์‹œํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:24
What is particularly interesting for us
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ํŠนํžˆ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์€
05:26
is that it focused on women and creating pleasure for women.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์˜ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์„ ์ด๋Œ์–ด ๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ์ค‘์ ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฃฌ ์ ์ด์ฃ .
05:31
TKM: Mhm. Shout-out to the "Kama Sutra," but back to the African erotic.
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TKM: "์นด๋งˆ์ˆ˜ํŠธ๋ผ"์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์—๋กœํ‹ฐ์‹œ์ฆ˜์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์•ผ์ฃ 
05:36
SK: OK, my bad, bringing it back.
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SK: ์ฃ„์†กํ•ด์š”, ๊ณ„์† ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ด…์‹œ๋‹ค.
05:38
So, Nkiru Nzegwu says that Osun, who is an orisha of the Yoruba people,
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๋‹ˆํ‚ค๋ฃจ ๋‹ˆ์ œ๊ทธ์œ ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธธ ์˜ค์ŠŒ์€ ์š”๋ฃจ๋ฐ”์กฑ์˜ ํ† ์† ์‹ ์œผ๋กœ
๋ณดํ†ต ๋ฌผ, ์ˆœ์ˆ˜, ๋‹ค์‚ฐ,
05:43
typically associated with water,
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์‚ฌ๋ž‘, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ด€๋Šฅ๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ด€๋œ ์กด์žฌ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ
05:45
purity, fertility, love and, most importantly, sensuality,
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05:50
represents a female-centered life-transforming energy
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ƒ๋ช… ์†์„ ํƒ€๊ณ  ํ๋ฅด๋ฉฐ ์ƒ๋ช…์— ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ์–ด ๋„ฃ์–ด
05:55
that courses through and animates life.
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์‚ถ์„ ๋ณ€ํ™”์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์ ์ธ ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ์ƒ์ง•ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:58
She says that women who typify the osun force
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์˜ค์ŠŒ์˜ ์ „ํ˜•์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์„ฑ์š•์„
06:01
brandish their sexuality quite openly and unselfconsciously.
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๊ฝค ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ, ๋‚จ์˜ ์‹œ์„ ์„ ์˜์‹ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:06
And she goes on to say ...
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋˜ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ง๋„ ํ•˜์ฃ .
06:07
TKM: There you go, you got that line this time.
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TKM: ์˜ค, ์ด๋ฒˆ์—” ๊ทธ ๋ง ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ์žŠ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋„ค
06:10
"The flow need not result in conception and birth
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โ€œ์ˆœ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ˆ˜ํƒœ์™€ ์ถœ์‚ฐ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ "
06:13
but doesn't tell the principle of pleasure at the heart of copulation.
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"์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋…์ด ์„ฑ๊ต์˜ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์— ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์ˆ˜๋ฐ˜ํ•œ๋‹ค."
06:17
This pleasure principle at the heart of the creative energy
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"์ƒ์„ฑ๋˜๋Š” ์—๋„ˆ์ง€์˜ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์˜ ๊ฐœ๋…์€"
06:20
is metaphorically known as 'osun honey'."
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"๋น„์œ ์ ์œผ๋กœ โ€˜์˜ค์ŠŒ์˜ ๊ฟ€โ€™์ด๋ผ ์•Œ๋ ค์ ธ ์žˆ๋‹ค."
06:23
Sorry, I did not want to misquote that.
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์ฃ„์†กํ•ด์š”, ์ž˜๋ชป ์ธ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
06:25
So now, osun honey and osunality
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์˜ค์ŠŒ์˜ ๊ฟ€๊ณผ ์˜ค์Šˆ๋„๋ฆฌํ‹ฐ๋Š”
06:28
re-affirm the normality of sexual pleasure and the erotic.
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์„ฑ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์พŒ๋ฝ๊ณผ ์—๋กœํ‹ฐ์‹œ์ฆ˜์˜ ์ผ์ƒ์„ฑ์„ ์žฌ์ฐจ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:32
Osun, like other female deities of fertility across Africa,
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์˜ค์ŠŒ์€ ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์ „์—ญ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—ฌ์ž ์‹ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
06:37
made sure and emphasized the importance of female sexuality
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์—ฌ์„ฑ ์„ฑ์ƒํ™œ์˜ ์ค‘์š”์„ฑ์„ ํ™•์–ธํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:42
without negating male sexuality.
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๋‚จ์„ฑ์˜ ์„ฑ์ƒํ™œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ถ€์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
06:45
We had the Tonga, the Bemba, the Sande
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํ†ต๊ฐ€, ๋ฒฐ๋ฐ”, ์‚ฐ๋ฐ
06:48
and other similar sexuality schools of thought
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ์„ฑ ๊ด€๋ จ ์‹ ์กฐ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์–ด
06:51
that taught young women about the power of this inner force.
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์ Š์€ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ ๋‚ด๋ฉด์˜ ํž˜์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:55
TKM: So within the African continent,
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TKM: ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ๋Œ€๋ฅ™์—์„œ๋Š”
06:56
there's a great deal of talk about the synergic nature of sex
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์„ฑ์˜ ์‹œ๋„ˆ์ง€ ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์ธ ๋ณธ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌํšŒ์ ์ธ ์ด๋“์œผ๋กœ
07:00
and how it comes together as a social good.
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ํ˜•์„ฑ๋˜๋Š”๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ต‰์žฅํžˆ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ด๋ก ์ด ์˜ค๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:02
For example, within Rwanda,
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๋ฉด, ๋ฅด์™„๋‹ค์—๋Š”
07:05
there is the notion that the rivers are replenished
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์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ์‚ฌ์ •์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ํ–‰์œ„์— ์˜ํ•ด์„œ
07:07
by the act of a woman squirting.
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๊ฐ•์ด ๋ฒ”๋žŒํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฐœ๋…์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:10
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
07:12
SK: But modern-day ideas of sex have become some sort of battle
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SK: ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํ˜„๋Œ€์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์€ ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ „๋ณต์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ
07:16
in which we are all trying to subvert each other.
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ „์Ÿํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:20
TKM: We are pounding the pussy, using sex as a weapon,
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TKM: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ณด์ง€๋ฅผ ๋‘๋“ค๊ธฐ๊ณ , ์„น์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฌด๊ธฐ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉฐ
07:25
playing hard to get, conquering --
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์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ž„ํ•ด, ์Ÿ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:27
a constant power struggle.
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๋Š์ž„์—†๋Š” ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ ํˆฌ์Ÿ์ธ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
07:30
SK: And there is always a loser when it comes to this war.
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SK: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ „์Ÿ์—๋Š” ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ํŒจ์ž๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธธ ์ˆ˜๋ฐ–์— ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:34
TKM: So now the ability to openly brandish and explore your sexuality and your sex
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TKM: ์ด์   ํƒ€์ธ์„ ์œ„ํ˜‘ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณผ ์„ฑ์ƒํ™œ์„
07:40
without it being a threat to others
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์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๊ณ  ํƒํ—˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์ด
07:42
is at the core of engaging with healthy sexual practices.
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์„ฑ์ƒํ™œ ๊ด€์Šต์˜ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:46
SK: Now this is where it begins to get really, really good.
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SK: ์ด์ œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ง„์งœ ์ง„์งœ ์ข‹์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์‹œ์ž‘๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:51
TKM: So what does it mean
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TKM: ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์„ฑ์„ ์–ด๋‘ ์˜ ๊ดด๋ฌผ์ฏค์œผ๋กœ ์ทจ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—์„œ
07:53
to reconceptualize sex away from this idea of the monster hiding in the night?
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ํ•œ๋ฐœ์ง ๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ ๊ฐœ๋…ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์—๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
07:58
What is the potential for doing greatness
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๋ถ€์—Œ ์นด์šดํ„ฐ๋‚˜ ํ•œ์ ํ•œ ํ•ด์•ˆ,
08:00
on the kitchen counter, a secluded beach, the backseat of a car
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์ž๋™์ฐจ ๋’ท ์ž์„์ด๋‚˜ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ์นจ๋Œ€ ์‹œํŠธ์—์„œ
08:04
or even simply in between the sheets?
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์ž˜ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ์–ด๋–ค ์ž ์žฌ๋ ฅ์ด ์ƒ๊ธธ๊นŒ์š”?
08:06
Now in learning from the past and sliding into the present,
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๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ˜„์žฌ์— ์ ์šฉํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด
08:10
a radical theory of sex
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์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์ด๋ก ์€
08:12
must identify, it must describe, explain and denounce
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์„ฑ์  ์–ต์••๊ณผ ์ •๋‹นํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ์—๋กœํ‹ฑํ•จ์„
08:17
sexual oppression and erotic injustice.
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ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฌ˜์‚ฌ, ์„ค๋ช… ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋น„๋‚œํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:20
TKM: And sex positivity is one of the realms
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TKM: ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ด€๋…๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋‚ด๊ณ 
08:22
in which the new can be unpacked and explored.
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ํƒํ—˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜์—ญ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์„ฑ ์ ๊ทน์„ฑ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:25
SK: We're asking you to call upon the osun honey
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SK: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์˜ค์ŠŒ์˜ ๊ฟ€์˜ ํž˜์„ ๋ฐ›์•„
08:28
to engage with new ideas of sex and pleasure
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์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ทธ ์พŒ๋ฝ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ž„์œผ๋กœ์„œ
08:32
so that we can start to build a new identity
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ชฉ์„ ์„œ์„œํžˆ ์กฐ์—ฌ์˜ค๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ฌด ๊ด€์ด ์•„๋‹Œ
08:35
that feels more like a fitted dress
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์‚ฌ์ด์ฆˆ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜ ๋งž๋Š” ์˜ท์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์ง€๋Š”
08:37
and less like a wooden coffin slowly choking the life out of us.
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ •์ฒด์„ฑ์„ ํ™•๋ฆฝํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:42
Now there are a lot of people charting their own sexual paths.
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์ด์   ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์„ฑ์ƒํ™œ์„ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:46
But, because as HOLAAfrica --
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ 'ํ™€๋ผ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด'์˜ ๋Œ€ํ‘œ๋กœ์„œ...
08:48
SK: We do sex and sexuality online --
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SK: ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์„ฑ๊ณผ ์„ฑ์  ํŠน์งˆ์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๋Š” ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์˜ˆ์š”.
08:50
TKM: We would be foolhardy not to mention the digital realm.
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TKM: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋””์ง€ํ„ธ ์˜์—ญ์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ์ง“์ด๊ฒ ์ฃ 
08:54
There are women who are online, creating incredible conversations,
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์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ต‰์žฅํ•œ ๋‹ด๋ก ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
08:59
chatting about the clitoris,
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์ด๋“ค์€ ํด๋ฆฌํ† ๋ฆฌ์Šค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๊ณ 
09:02
chatting about the reverse cowgirl and also cunnilingus.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ ์ƒ์œ„์™€ ๊ตฌ๊ฐ•์„ฑ๊ต์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:05
SK: I like the word "cunnilingus."
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SK: "๊ตฌ๊ฐ•์„ฑ๊ต"๋ž€ ๋ง์ด ์ข‹์•„์š”.
09:07
TKM: I bet you do. But that's not the point.
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TKM: ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋Ÿด๊ฑฐ์•ผ, ์š”์ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ.
09:09
Anyway, these women are resurrecting the work of ancestors
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์€ ์กฐ์ƒ๋“ค์˜ ์—…์ ์ด์ž
09:13
to have some incredible conversations
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๋ฌป์–ด๋‘๊ณ  ์žŠํ˜€์กŒ๋˜
09:15
that have been previously buried and sealed.
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๋‹ด๋ก ๋“ค์„ ๋ถ€ํ™œ์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:18
SK: They are asking the questions that we are so afraid to ask,
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SK: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ถˆํŽธํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์ฒ˜ํ• ๊นŒ ๋‘๋ ค์›Œ์„œ ๋ฌป์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ๋“ค์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”
09:23
so that we don't end up in sticky situations.
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09:25
TKM: That's true.
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TKM: ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:26
And another space that we've been seeing the charting of a new sexual path
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์„ฑ์ ์ธ ๊ธฐ๋ก์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•œ
09:30
is by queer women and their engagement in kink.
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜์—ญ์€ ํ€ด์–ด ์—ฌ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋ณ€ํƒœ์  ํ–‰์œ„์—์˜ ์ฐธ์—ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:35
SK: Now, think "Fifty Shades of Grey"
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SK: ์ž, ๋™์˜๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š”
09:37
without the creepy rich guy who does not understand consent.
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์†Œ๋ฆ„๋‹๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ถ€์ž๊ฐ€ ๋น ์ง„ "๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด์˜ 50๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์ž"๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
09:42
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
09:43
TKM: So one fascinating subset of kink is actually rope play.
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TKM: ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ๋ณ€ํƒœํ–‰์œ„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ฐง์ค„์„ ์ด์šฉํ•œ ์ฒด์œ„์ฃ .
09:48
SK: Shibari, also known as Kinbaku, is the Japanese art of rope play.
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SK: ํ‚จ๋ฐ”์ฟ ๋ผ๊ณ ๋„ ์•Œ๋ ค์ ธ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๋ฐ”๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ๋ณธ์˜ ๋ฐง์ค„ ์ฒด์œ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:52
Originally used as a means of restraining captives,
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์›๋ž˜๋Š” ํฌ๋กœ๋ฅผ ํฌ๋ฐ•ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
09:57
it became sexualized and spreading across the globe
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์„ฑ์ ์ธ ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๋ถ€์—ฌ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ๋ณ€ํƒœ์ ์ธ ๊ตฌ์†์˜ ์ˆ˜๋‹จ์ด์ž
10:00
as a kinky form of restraint with a respected and erotic aesthetic.
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์—๋กœํ‹ฑํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์กด์ค‘๋ฐ›๋Š” ๋ฏธํ•™์œผ๋กœ ์ „์„ธ๊ณ„์— ํผ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:05
TKM: And it landed on our shores.
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TKM: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ํ•ด์•ˆ์—๊นŒ์ง€๋„ ์ „ํ•ด์กŒ์ฃ .
10:07
Who would have thought that African queer women would be kinksters?
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ํ€ด์–ด ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ๋ณ€ํƒœ์ ์ธ ์ทจํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹จ ๊ฑธ ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์•˜๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
10:11
Coming from a history of sexual violence, slavery and a lack of bodily autonomy.
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์„ฑํญ๋ ฅ๊ณผ ๋…ธ์˜ˆ์ œ๋„์˜ ์—ญ์‚ฌ, ์œก์ฒด์˜ ์ž์ฃผ๊ถŒ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๋˜ ์—ญ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์—์„œ
10:16
Is it not too soon, you ask.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ด๋ฅด์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜ ์‹ถ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
10:18
SK: No, it's not,
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SK: ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:19
and these women have taught us that despite the dark history
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ๋Œ€๋ฅ™์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
10:23
that covers the body of women from our beautiful continent,
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์—ฌ์„ฑ์˜ ์‹ ์ฒด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋‘์šด ์—ญ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ 
10:26
these women are actively and beautifully constructing
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ํ™œ๋ฐœํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ต๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ๊ณผ ์พŒ๋ฝ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋‹ˆ๋Š”์ง€
10:29
what sex and pleasure means to them.
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ํ™•๋ฆฝํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณ์คฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:32
TKM: This is not to say that everyone now needs to rush out and engage in kink.
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TKM: ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ณ€ํƒœ์ ์ธ ํ–‰์œ„๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:37
But if these queer women can come out of a history
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ด ํ€ด์–ด ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ์•ž์„œ ๋งํ•œ ์„ฑํญ๋ ฅ๊ณผ
10:40
of, again, sexual violence, slavery, colonization
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๋…ธ์˜ˆ์ œ๋„, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹๋ฏผ์ง€ํ™”๋ผ๋Š” ์–ด๋‘์šด ์—ญ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ 
10:44
and all manner of traditional, religious and cultural pitfalls,
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ „ํ†ต์ , ์ข…๊ต์ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌธํ™”์  ๊ตด๋ ˆ๋ฅผ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜์„œ
10:48
to reconceptualize what sex and pleasure means to them,
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์„น์Šค์™€ ๊ทธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›€์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์žฌ๊ฐœ๋…ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
10:52
then you can do it, too.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:53
SK: You can do it too, boo-boo.
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SK: ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์—ญ์‹œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
10:56
Yes, you can.
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๋งž์•„์š”. ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
10:57
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
10:58
TKM: It is in taking the ideas that we have about sex -- the bad ones,
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TKM : ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:02
and head-butting them,
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๋‚˜์œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์€ ๋ฐ•์น˜๊ธฐ ํ•ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
11:03
holding on to the good ones and creating new ones
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์ข‹์€ ๊ฑด ๋ถ™์žก์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด ์ธ๊ฐ„์˜ ํ–‰์œ„ ์ค‘ ๊ฐ€์žฅ
11:06
that we can have an incredible engagement
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์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ํ’์š”๋กœ์šด ์ด ํ–‰์œ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
11:09
with one of the most prolific and natural human acts ever.
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ•ด์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ์ฐฝ์กฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”
11:13
SK: It's about figuring out what counts as a system bug.
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SK: ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์˜ ๋ฒ„๊ทธ๋กœ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์„์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:16
TKM: What to term a classic.
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TKM: ๊ณ ์ „์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๊ณผ
11:18
SK: And what new features we should add.
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SK: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์š”์†Œ๋“ค.
11:20
Human beings are infamous for their superpower to upgrade.
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์ธ๋ฅ˜๋Š” ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œํ•˜๋Š” ์ดˆ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์•…๋ช…์ด ์ž์žํ•˜์ฃ .
11:24
This should count for our sex, too.
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์„ฑ๋„ ๊ทธ ์—…๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋“œ์— ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:27
TKM: Thank you.
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TKM: ๊ณ ๋ง™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:29
(Applause)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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