The Crime-Fighting Power of Cross-Border Investigative Journalism | Bektour Iskender | TED

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ²ˆμ—­: SEYOUNG KWON κ²€ν† : DK Kim
00:04
What makes organized crime strong?
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쑰직 λ²”μ£„λŠ” μ™œ κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ κ°•λ ₯ν• κΉŒμš”?
00:06
It is very well-connected across borders.
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그듀은 ꡭ경을 λ„˜μ–΄μ„œ 잘 μ—°κ²°λ˜μ–΄ 있죠.
00:10
Criminal leaders can cooperate over long distances,
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범죄 두λͺ©λ“€μ€ 멀리 λ–¨μ–΄μ Έμ„œλ„ ν˜‘λ ₯ν•  수 있고
00:13
build efficient logistics
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효율적인 κ³„νšμ„ μ„Έμš°κ³ 
00:15
and hide their wealth across many jurisdictions.
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μž¬μ‚°μ„ 숨긴 채 μ—¬λŸ¬ μ‚¬λ²•κΆŒμ„ λ„˜λ‚˜λ“€ 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:18
How do we know about this?
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우린 이걸 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ•ŒκΉŒμš”?
00:20
One of the reasons is journalists.
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κ·Έ 이유 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ” κΈ°μžλ“€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:22
We are often the first ones
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” ν”νžˆ 처음으둜
00:23
to reveal the enormous schemes of organized crime networks.
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쑰직적인 λ²”μ£„λ§μ˜ κ±°λŒ€ν•œ κ³„νšμ„ λ°νžˆλŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:28
At some point, journalists started connecting across borders, too.
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μ–Έμ  κ°€λΆ€ν„° κΈ°μžλ“€λ„ ꡭ경을 λ„˜μ–΄ μ—°κ²°λ˜κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:32
During the last decade,
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μ§€λ‚œ 10μ—¬λ…„ κ°„ μ•„μ£Ό 획기적이고
00:33
there was a number of groundbreaking, cross-border investigations
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ꡭ경을 μ΄ˆμ›”ν•œ 쑰사가 많이 μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:36
that had dozens of media organizations working together.
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μ–Έλ‘  쑰직 μ‹­μ—¬ κ°œκ°€ ν•¨κ»˜ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:41
β€œPanama Papers” is probably one of the most famous
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β€˜νŒŒλ‚˜λ§ˆ νŽ˜μ΄νΌμŠ€β€™λŠ” 이런 ꡭ경을 λ„˜λ‚˜λ“œλŠ” μ–Έλ‘  μ—°ν•© 쀑에
00:43
of such cross-border journalism collaborations.
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κ°€μž₯ 유λͺ…ν•œ 곳일 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:46
It had more than 100 media working on it;
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100μ—¬κ°œκ°€ λ„˜λŠ” 맀체가 κ±°κΈ°μ„œ 일을 ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:49
it affected countries on every continent.
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그것은 λͺ¨λ“  λŒ€λ₯™μ— 영ν–₯을 λ―Έμ³€μ£ .
00:52
More importantly, it led to more than one billion dollars
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더 μ€‘μš”ν•˜κ²Œ, 그듀은 10μ–΅ λ‹¬λŸ¬ 이상이
00:55
to be recovered to the economies of the countries they were stolen from.
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κ·Έ λˆμ„ λ„λ‘‘λ§žμ€ λ‚˜λΌλ“€μ—κ²Œ λ˜λŒμ•„κ°€λ„λ‘ ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:00
Now let’s take a look at maps that show which countries were featured
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이제 지도λ₯Ό ν•˜λ‚˜ μ‚΄νŽ΄λ΄…μ‹œλ‹€.
μ£Όμš”ν•œ 세계적 쑰사 μ„Έ μ°¨λ‘€μ—μ„œ μ–΄λ–€ λ‚˜λΌλ“€μ΄ λ“±μž₯ν–ˆλŠ”μ§€ 보여주죠.
01:04
in three major global investigations from 2016 to 2021.
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2016λ…„λΆ€ν„° 2021λ…„ μ‚¬μ΄μ—μš”.
01:09
So this is β€œPanama Papers,”
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이게 β€˜νŒŒλ‚˜λ§ˆ νŽ˜μ΄νΌμŠ€β€™μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:12
β€œParadise Papers,”
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아건 β€˜νŒŒλΌλ‹€μ΄μŠ€ νŽ˜μ΄νΌμŠ€β€™μ΄κ³ 
01:15
β€œPandora Papers.”
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이건 β€˜νŒλ„λΌ νŽ˜μ΄νΌμŠ€β€™μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:18
As you can see, some countries keep being blank spots on these maps,
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λ³΄μ‹œλ‹€μ‹œν”Ό, λͺ‡λͺ‡ λ‚˜λΌλ“€μ€ 이 μ§€λ„μ—μ„œ 빈칸으둜 λ³΄μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:22
and one of them is Kyrgyzstan,
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그쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜κ°€ 제 쑰ꡭ인 ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:24
my home country.
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01:26
And does it mean there is no organized crime in Kyrgyzstan
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ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„μ—λŠ” 쑰직적인 범죄가 μ—†λ‹€λŠ” λœ»μΌκΉŒμš”?
λΆ€νŒ¨κ°€ μ—†λ‹€κ³ μš”?
01:30
or maybe no corruption?
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01:32
No way.
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그럴 λ¦¬κ°€μš”.
01:33
There is a lot of corruption in my country,
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이 λ‚˜λΌλŠ” λΆ€μ •λΆ€νŒ¨κ°€ μ‹¬ν•˜κ³ 
01:35
and organized crime is a pretty powerful force.
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범죄 쑰직듀은 λͺΉμ‹œ κ°•λ ₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:38
Kyrgyzstan was just not covered in major global investigations
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ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„은 μ£Όμš” ꡭ제 쑰사에
μ•„μ£Ό μ˜€λž«λ™μ•ˆ ν¬ν•¨λ˜μ§€ μ•Šμ€ κ²ƒλΏμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:42
for a very long time.
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01:45
I’m one of the founders of Kloop,
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μ „ ν΄λ£¨ν”„μ˜ 창립자 쀑 ν•œ λͺ…μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:47
a very unusual media organization
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μ•„μ£Ό νŠΉμ΄ν•œ μ–Έλ‘  κΈ°κ΄€μœΌλ‘œ
01:49
that I co-founded in Kyrgyzstan back in 2007 with my friend, Rinat.
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2007λ…„ 제 친ꡬ인 λ¦¬λ‚˜νŠΈμ™€ ν•¨κ»˜ ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„μ—μ„œ 곡동 μ„€λ¦½ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:54
Initially it was just a news website and a journalism school.
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μ²˜μŒμ—λŠ” κ·Έμ € λ‰΄μŠ€ μ›Ήμ‚¬μ΄νŠΈ, 기자 ν•™κ΅μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:57
We would train journalists as young as 15 or 16
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 15μ‚΄μ—μ„œ 16μ‚΄ 정도 λ˜λŠ” μ Šμ€ κΈ°μžλ“€μ„ κ°€λ₯΄μ³μ„œ
02:00
to cover politics,
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μ •μΉ˜λ‚˜ 인ꢌ μΉ¨ν•΄,
02:02
human rights violations
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02:03
and many, many other stories that happened in our country.
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그리고 우리 μ‘°κ΅­μ—μ„œ μΌμ–΄λ‚˜λŠ” λ§Žμ€ λ‹€μ–‘ν•œ 이야기듀을 μ·¨μž¬ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:06
Throughout the years our journalists grew up,
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λͺ‡ λ…„ λ™μ•ˆ 우리 κΈ°μžλ“€μ΄ μ„±μž₯ν•΄μ„œ
02:09
and by the time they were in their early 20s,
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20λŒ€ 초반이 λ˜μ—ˆμ„ 무렡,
02:13
they thought they were too experienced to just cover daily news.
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그듀은 일상적인 λ‰΄μŠ€ λ³΄λ„λ§Œ ν•˜κΈ°μ—λŠ” κ²½ν—˜μ΄ 아깝닀고 μƒκ°ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:18
They wanted to take on more involved stories,
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그듀은 더 λ³΅μž‘ν•œ 이야기λ₯Ό 닀루고 μ‹Άμ—ˆκ³ 
02:21
and they were eager to make a difference in Kyrgyzstan.
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ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„에 λ³€ν™”λ₯Ό μΌμœΌν‚€κΈΈ μ—΄λ§ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:24
So we started publishing bigger investigations
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 더 큰 탐사 보도λ₯Ό μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆλŠ”λ°
02:27
with our young and engaged journalists,
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젊고 열정적인 κΈ°μžλ“€κ³Ό ν•¨κ»˜ν–ˆμ£ .
02:30
but there were some difficulties though.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ‚œκ΄€μ΄ λͺ‡ 가지 μžˆμ—ˆμ£ .
02:32
In some cases, we did not have enough resources or experience
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λͺ‡λͺ‡ μ‚¬κ±΄λ“€μ—μ„œλŠ” μΆ©λΆ„ν•œ μžμ›μ΄λ‚˜ κ²½ν—˜μ΄ μ—†μ–΄μ„œ
02:36
to work on very complicated stories,
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μ•„μ£Ό λ³΅μž‘ν•œ 이야기듀을 λ‹€λ£° 수 μ—†μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:38
and sometimes it was just too scary.
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μ–΄λ–€ κ²½μš°λŠ” λ„ˆλ¬΄ 무섭기도 ν–ˆκ³ μš”.
02:40
For example, once we even received a death threat
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예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄ μ‚΄ν•΄ ν˜‘λ°•μ„ 받기도 ν–ˆλŠ”λ°
02:42
for trying to investigate criminal activities of the then-president’s son.
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λ‹Ήμ‹œ λŒ€ν†΅λ Ή μ•„λ“€μ˜ 범죄 ν–‰μœ„λ₯Ό μ‘°μ‚¬ν•˜λ € ν–ˆλ‹€λŠ” 게 μ΄μœ μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:46
And the problem was we didn’t know who could protect us,
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λ¬Έμ œλŠ” 우리λ₯Ό λˆ„κ°€ μ§€μΌœμ€„ 수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€ λͺ¨λ₯Έλ‹€λŠ” μ μ΄μ—ˆκ³ 
02:50
and we eventually had to drop this investigation.
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κ²°κ΅­ 탐사λ₯Ό 쀑단해야 ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:53
But then something important happened in 2017
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그런데 2017년에 μ€‘μš”ν•œ 사건이 ν„°μ‘Œμ–΄μš”.
02:55
when we joined the network of OCCRP,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” OCCRP에 κ°€μž…ν–ˆλŠ”λ°
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Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project.
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OCCRPλŠ” 쑰직 범죄 및 λΆ€νŒ¨ 보고 ν”„λ‘œμ νŠΈμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:01
It is an organization based in Bosnia.
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λ³΄μŠ€λ‹ˆμ•„μ— μžˆλŠ” μ‘°μ§μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:03
It was initially formed to unite the best investigative media outlets
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μ²˜μŒμ—λŠ” 발칸 μ§€μ—­μ—μ„œ 졜고의 탐사 맀체듀을 ν†΅ν•©ν•˜κΈ° μœ„ν•΄ κ²°μ„±ν–ˆκ³ 
03:07
from the Balkans,
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03:09
and later it expanded its network to many other countries in Europe
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λ‚˜μ€‘μ— 유럽의 λ‹€λ₯Έ μ—¬λŸ¬ λ‚˜λΌλ“€, κ·Έλ‹€μŒ 쀑앙 μ•„μ‹œμ•„λ‘œ 연결망을 ν™•μž₯ν–ˆκ³ 
03:12
and then to Central Asia,
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03:14
Middle East, Africa, Latin America.
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쀑동, 아프리카, λ‚¨λ―ΈκΉŒμ§€ νΌμ‘ŒμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:17
And the goal of this organization is in its name:
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이 쑰직의 λͺ©ν‘œλŠ” μ΄λ¦„λŒ€λ‘œμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:19
to fight organized crime and corruption with journalism.
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언둠을 톡해 쑰직적인 범죄, 그리고 λΆ€νŒ¨μ™€ μ‹Έμš°λŠ” κ±°μ£ .
03:24
We were the first Central Asian member of this network,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 이 μ—°κ²°λ§μ˜ 첫 쀑앙 μ•„μ‹œμ•„ νšŒμ›μ΄μ—ˆκ³ 
03:26
and oh, how many changes it has brought.
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λ§Žμ€ λ³€ν™”κ°€ μƒκ²ΌμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:30
We turned Kyrgyzstan from a blank spot on the map
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ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„은 μ§€λ„μ˜ κ³΅λ°±μ—μ„œ λ²—μ–΄λ‚˜
03:33
into a country where organized crime and corruption are investigated
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μ „κ³Ό λ‹€λ₯΄κ²Œ 쑰직적인 범죄와 λΆ€νŒ¨κ°€ μ‘°μ‚¬λ˜λŠ” λ‚˜λΌκ°€ λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:36
as never before.
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03:38
In 2019, we joined our efforts with OCCRP and also with Radio Liberty,
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2019년에 μš°λ¦¬κ°€ ν˜‘λ ₯ν•œ 곳은 OCCRP,
λΌλ””μ˜€ 리버티, 체코에 μžˆλŠ” μ–Έλ‘  κΈ°κ΄€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€,
03:43
a media organization based in Czech Republic,
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and Bellingcat, an Investigative Center from the UK.
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그리고 벨링캣, 영ꡭ의 탐사 μ‘°μ§μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:49
And together we published a series of investigations
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” ν•¨κ»˜ 쑰사 κ²°κ³Όλ₯Ό μ—¬λŸ¬ 편 μ΄μ–΄μ„œ λ°œν‘œν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:51
about an underground cargo empire.
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μ§€ν•˜μ— μˆ¨μ–΄μžˆλŠ” ν™”λ¬Ό μ™•κ΅­ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°μ˜€μ£ .
03:54
A secretive family clan that transported goods from China to Central Asia
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μ€‘κ΅­μ—μ„œ 쀑앙 μ•„μ‹œμ•„λ‘œ 화물을 μš΄μ†‘ν•˜λŠ” 비밀에 μŒ“μΈ μΌμ‘±μ΄μ—ˆμ£ .
04:00
and didn’t pay all the taxes and tariffs,
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그듀은 μ„ΈκΈˆκ³Ό κ΄€μ„Έλ₯Ό 내지 μ•Šμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:03
if you know what I mean.
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무슨 말인지 μ•„μ‹€ κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:05
In order to do that,
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그러기 μœ„ν•΄μ„œ ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„ 세관에 λ‡Œλ¬Όμ„ 쀬고
04:06
they bribed the Kyrgyzstan Customs Service,
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04:10
and a significant chunk of this bribe went to this person:
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λ‡Œλ¬Ό 쀑 상당 뢀뢄이 이 μ‚¬λžŒμ—κ²Œ λŒμ•„κ°”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:14
Raimbek Matraimov,
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λΌμž„λ² ν¬ 맀트라이λͺ¨ν”„, ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„ μ„Έκ΄€ λΆ€κ΅­μž₯μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:15
the Deputy Head of Kyrgyzstan’s Customs.
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04:18
Our investigations revealed
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우리의 쑰사 κ²°κ³Ό
04:20
that even high-ranking officials in Kyrgyzstan are involved in corruption,
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ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„μ˜ κ³ μœ„ 관리듀쑰차 λΆ€νŒ¨μ— μ—°λ£¨λ˜μ–΄ μžˆμ—ˆκ³ 
04:24
poisoning their whole institutions with the worst possible practices.
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κ°€λŠ₯ν•œ μ΅œμ•…μ˜ λ°©λ²•μœΌλ‘œ κΈ°κ΄€ 전체λ₯Ό λ”λŸ½ν˜”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:29
People in Kyrgyzstan were outraged when they read this,
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ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ 이것을 읽고 κ²©λΆ„ν–ˆμ£ .
04:33
and this led to an unprecedented chain reaction.
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그리고 μ „λ‘€μ—†λŠ” 연쇄 λ°˜μ‘μ„ μΌμœΌμΌ°μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:38
So first there were protests in Kyrgyzstan
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ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„μ—μ„œ 처음 μ‹œμœ„κ°€ μžˆμ—ˆλŠ”λ°
04:40
because of what was published in the investigation itself.
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기사에 μ‹€λ¦° λ‚΄μš© λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄μ—ˆμ£ .
04:44
A year later, in 2020, even larger protests happened
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1λ…„ ν›„, 2020년에 더 큰 μ‹œμœ„κ°€ μΌμ–΄λ‚¬μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:48
when some of the politicians who were featured in our investigations
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ‘°μ‚¬ν–ˆλ˜ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€ 쀑 μ •μΉ˜μΈλ“€μ΄ λͺ‡ μ‚¬λžŒ μžˆμ—ˆλŠ”λ°
04:52
had their party taking second place in the Parliament elections.
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의회 μ„ κ±°μ—μ„œ κ·Έλ“€μ˜ 당이 2μœ„λ₯Ό μ°¨μ§€ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:56
As a result of these larger protests,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 이 더 큰 μ‹œμœ„μ˜ 결과둜
04:59
Parliament election results were annulled,
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의회 μ„ κ±° κ²°κ³ΌλŠ” λ¬΄νš¨κ°€ λ˜μ—ˆκ³ 
05:01
government was changed
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μ •κΆŒμ΄ λ°”λ€Œκ³ 
05:03
and eventually the president of the country was forced to resign.
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κ²°κ΅­ λŒ€ν†΅λ Ήμ€ μ‚¬μž„ν•΄μ•Όλ§Œ ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:07
(Applause)
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(λ°•μˆ˜)
05:12
But this investigation was important not only for Kyrgyzstan.
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ 이 쑰사가 ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„μ—λ§Œ μ€‘μš”ν•œ 것은 μ•„λ‹ˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:16
Remember I told you about this family clan
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μ œκ°€ λ§ν–ˆλ˜ 일쑱을 κΈ°μ–΅ν•˜μ‹œλ‚˜μš”?
05:18
that started this scheme in the first place?
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이 쑰사λ₯Ό μ‹œμž‘ν•˜κ²Œ 된 κ³„κΈ°μ˜€μ£ .
05:21
They earned a lot of money in Central Asia.
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그듀은 μ€‘μ•™μ•„μ‹œμ•„μ—μ„œ λ§Žμ€ λˆμ„ λ²Œμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:24
We revealed and had evidence of at least 800 million dollars
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ‘°μ‚¬ν•œ λ°”λ‘œλŠ”
κ·Έλ“€μ˜ 사업 규λͺ¨κ°€ μ΅œμ†Œν•œ 8μ–΅ λ‹¬λŸ¬λΌλŠ” 증거가 μžˆλŠ”λ°
05:28
that went through their business,
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05:30
and the real figure might be even higher.
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μ‹€μ œλ‘œλŠ” 더 클 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:32
And where exactly did they spend their money?
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그듀은 μ •ν™•νžˆ 어디에 λˆμ„ μΌμ„κΉŒμš”?
05:35
Well, they bought this house in Los Angeles, California,
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μΊ˜λ¦¬ν¬λ‹ˆμ•„ λ‘œμŠ€μ—”μ €λ ˆμŠ€μ—μ„œ 이 집을 샀고
05:39
and this mansion in the UK;
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μ˜κ΅­μ—μ„œ 이 저택도 κ΅¬μž…ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:41
they started a construction project in Augsburg, Germany;
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독일 μ•„μš°ν¬μŠ€λΆ€λ₯΄ν¬μ—μ„œ 건섀 사업을 μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆκ³ 
05:44
they bought many apartments in Dubai.
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λ‘λ°”μ΄μ—μ„œ μ•„νŒŒνŠΈλ„ 많이 κ΅¬μž…ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:47
In other words,
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λ‹€μ‹œ λ§ν•˜λ©΄ ν•œ 지역에 ν•œμ •λœ 쑰직 범죄 같은 건 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:48
there is probably no such thing as local organized crime investigation.
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05:52
Because of how organized crime is structured,
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ 쑰직 λ²”μ£„μ˜ ꡬ쑰상
05:54
almost every investigative story about it has at least a regional significance,
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거의 λͺ¨λ“  νƒμ‚¬μ—μ„œ 쑰직 λ²”μ£„λŠ” μ΅œμ†Œν•œ μ—¬λŸ¬ 지역에 μ—°κ΄€λ˜μ–΄ 있고
05:59
and in many cases it has a global significance.
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λ§Žμ€ κ²½μš°μ— ꡭ제적인 μ‚¬μ•ˆμ΄μ£ .
06:03
So now there are several messages that I want to deliver today.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 였늘 λ©”μ‹œμ§€λ₯Ό λͺ‡ 가지 μ „λ‹¬ν•˜κ³ μž ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:07
Message number one:
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첫 번째 λ©”μ‹œμ§€.
06:08
journalism networks are actually very efficient and important.
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μ–Έλ‘  연결망은 사싀 맀우 효율적이고 μ€‘μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:12
You don’t need 100 media organizations for every investigation.
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λͺ¨λ“  쑰사에 μ–Έλ‘  쑰직 λ°± κ°œκ°€ ν•„μš”ν•œ 것은 μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:16
You know, like in our case, we only had four,
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μ €ν¬λŠ” 4λͺ…이 λ‹€μ˜€λŠ”λ° 이미 νŒλ„λ₯Ό 크게 λ°”κΏ¨μ£ .
06:18
and it was already a huge game-changer.
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06:21
And for local media organizations like Kloop,
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클루프 같은 지역 μ–Έλ‘  μ‘°μ§λ“€μ—κ²ŒλŠ” μ•ˆμ „μ„ μœ„ν•œ μˆ˜λ‹¨μ΄κΈ°λ„ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:23
this is also a safety measure.
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06:25
As I mentioned before,
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μ•žμ„œ λ§μ”€λ“œλ Έλ“―μ΄ 혼자 쑰사λ₯Ό ν•˜λŠ” 건 λ¬΄μ„­μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:26
working on investigations alone is scary.
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06:29
Within our network we not only share knowledge or resources,
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연결망 λ‚΄μ—μ„œ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ§€μ‹μ΄λ‚˜ 자료λ₯Ό κ³΅μœ ν•  뿐 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
06:33
but we also care about each other, and we keep each other secure.
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μ„œλ‘œλ₯Ό 보살피기도 ν•˜κ³ , μ•ˆμ „ν•˜κ²Œ μ§€μΌœμ£ΌκΈ°λ„ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:37
Message number two:
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두 번째 λ©”μ‹œμ§€.
06:38
support local media organizations all around the world.
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μ „ μ„Έκ³„μ˜ 지역 μ–Έλ‘  기관을 응원해 μ£Όμ„Έμš”.
06:41
When global journalism collaborations first began,
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세계적인 μ–Έλ‘  ν˜‘μ—…μ΄ 처음 μ‹œμž‘λ˜μ—ˆμ„ λ•Œ
06:44
it was mostly media from Europe or the Americas
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λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„ μœ λŸ½μ΄λ‚˜ 미ꡭ의 λ§€μ²΄μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:46
that would have a leading role
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μžμ›μ΄ κ°€μž₯ λ§Žμ•„μ„œ 주도적인 역할을 ν•  수 μžˆμ—ˆμœΌλ‹ˆκΉŒμš”.
06:48
as they had the greatest resources.
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06:50
But media organizations from other continents are very important too.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ‹€λ₯Έ λŒ€λ₯™μ˜ μ–Έλ‘  쑰직도 맀우 μ€‘μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:55
We have unique expertise, insights and connections.
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그듀은 κ³ μœ ν•œ μ „λ¬Έ 지식, 톡찰λ ₯κ³Ό 연쀄이 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:00
Before I move to the third and final message,
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μ„Έ 번째 λ§ˆμ§€λ§‰ λ©”μ‹œμ§€λ‘œ λ„˜μ–΄κ°€κΈ° 전에
07:03
I want to share something personal with you.
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개인적인 일을 λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:06
Last year I moved to Ukraine
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μž‘λ…„μ— μ €λŠ” μš°ν¬λΌμ΄λ‚˜λ‘œ κ°”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:08
because Kloop planned to start a new regional media project there,
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클루프가 κ±°κΈ°μ—μ„œ μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ 지역 언둠을 μ‹œμž‘ν•  κ³„νšμ΄μ—ˆκ±°λ“ μš”.
07:11
and we are now forced to do it in another country
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그런데 μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ§€κΈˆ λ‹€λ₯Έ λ‚˜λΌμ—μ„œ 그것을 ν•˜λ„λ‘ κ°•μš”λ°›κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:14
because this man was belligerent enough to invade Ukraine,
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ 이 μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ μš°ν¬λΌμ΄λ‚˜λ₯Ό 침곡할 μ •λ„λ‘œ ν˜Έμ „μ μ΄μ—ˆκ±°λ“ μš”.
μš°ν¬λΌμ΄λ‚˜λŠ” 제 두 번째 κ³ ν–₯μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:18
the country that became my second home.
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07:22
But I want to highlight a role of another country in this war:
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그런데 μ „ 이 μ „μŸμ—μ„œ 이 λ‚˜λΌμ˜ 역할을 κ°•μ‘°ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:25
Belarus.
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λ²¨λΌλ£¨μŠ€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:26
Belarus is very corrupt.
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λ²¨λΌλ£¨μŠ€λŠ” λͺΉμ‹œ λΆ€νŒ¨ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:28
It has been run by Alyaksandr Lukashenka,
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μ•Œλ ‰μ‚°λ” 루카센코가 ꡭ정을 μš΄μ˜ν–ˆλŠ”λ°
07:31
a dictator that has been ruling this country since the 1990s.
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1990λ…„λŒ€λΆ€ν„° 이 λ‚˜λΌλ₯Ό ν†΅μΉ˜ν•΄ 온 λ…μž¬μžμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:35
Lukashenka did something unthinkable.
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λ£¨μΉ΄μ„Όμ½”λŠ” 상상쑰차 ν•  수 μ—†λŠ” 일을 λ²Œμ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:37
He provided the territory of Belarus to the Russian army
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κ·ΈλŠ” 벨라루슀의 μ˜ν† λ₯Ό λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„ κ΅°λŒ€μ— μ œκ³΅ν•΄μ„œ
07:40
to attack Ukraine from the north.
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뢁μͺ½μ—μ„œ μš°ν¬λΌλ‹ˆμ•„λ₯Ό κ³΅κ²©ν•˜κ²Œ ν–ˆμ£ .
07:43
One of the similarities between Belarus and Kyrgyzstan
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λ²¨λΌλ£¨μŠ€μ™€ ν‚€λ₯΄κΈ°μŠ€μŠ€νƒ„μ˜ λΉ„μŠ·ν•œ 점은
07:46
is that both our countries are small
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λ‘˜ λ‹€ μž‘μ€ λ‚˜λΌμ΄κ³ 
07:48
and get little attention from global media.
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세계 μ–Έλ‘ μœΌλ‘œλΆ€ν„° 거의 관심을 받지 λͺ»ν–ˆμ£ .
07:50
At the same time,
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이와 λ™μ‹œμ— μˆ˜μ‹­ λ…„ λ™μ•ˆ
07:51
for decades, local media in Belarus did not have enough resources
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벨라루슀의 지역 언둠은 μžμ›μ΄λ‚˜ μ•ˆμ „ μ‘°μΉ˜κ°€ μΆ©λΆ„ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•„μ„œ
07:55
or safety measures to thoroughly investigate Lukashenka
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루카센코와 μ£Όμœ„μ˜ λΆ€νŒ¨ν•œ 관리듀을 μ² μ €νžˆ 쑰사할 수 μ—†μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:58
and corrupt officials around him.
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08:00
The thing is, Lukashenka is not really a super powerful leader
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μ€‘μš”ν•œ 건 λ£¨μΉ΄μ„Όμ½”λŠ” μ„Έκ³„μ μœΌλ‘œ κ°•λ ₯ν•œ μ§€λ„μžλŠ” μ•„λ‹ˆλΌλŠ” μ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:03
of global magnitude.
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08:05
Unlike Putin, he could [have been] weakened years ago.
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ν‘Έν‹΄κ³Ό 달리, κ·ΈλŠ” μˆ˜λ…„ 전에 μ•½ν•΄μ§ˆ μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:08
What helped him stay in power was massive pressure on civil society,
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κ·Έκ°€ ꢌλ ₯을 μœ μ§€ν•˜λŠ” 데 도움을 μ€€ 것은
μ‹œλ―Ό μ‚¬νšŒμ™€ ν˜„μ§€ 언둠에 λŒ€ν•œ μ—„μ²­λ‚œ μ••λ ₯,
08:13
on local media
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08:14
and lack of financial measures from other countries.
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그리고 λ‹€λ₯Έ λ‚˜λΌλ“€λ‘œλΆ€ν„°μ˜ μž¬μ •μ  μ§€μ›μ˜ λΆ€μ‘±μ΄μ—ˆμ£ .
08:18
If the global community took stronger action against Lukashenka,
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λ§Œμ•½ ꡭ제 μ‚¬νšŒκ°€ λ£¨μΉ΄μ„Όμ½”μ—κ²Œ 더 κ°•λ ₯ν•œ 쑰치λ₯Ό μ·¨ν–ˆκ±°λ‚˜
08:22
if local media were stronger and better linked with global networks,
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지역 언둠이 더 κ°•λ ₯ν•˜κ³  세계 μ–Έλ‘ λ“€κ³Ό 더 잘 μ—°κ²°λ˜μ—ˆλ‹€λ©΄
08:26
I believe Russia could have lost its key ally a long, long time ago.
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λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„λŠ” μ•„μ£Ό μ˜€λž˜μ „μ— 핡심 동맹ꡭ을 μžƒμ„ μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:31
A better-timed collaborative journalism investigation could save many lives.
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μ μ ˆν•œ μ‹œκΈ°μ— 곡동 μ–Έλ‘  쑰사λ₯Ό ν–ˆλ‹€λ©΄ λ§Žμ€ 생λͺ…을 ꡬ할 수 μžˆμ—ˆμ„ κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:36
So here I come to my final message.
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이제 λ§ˆμ§€λ§‰ λ©”μ‹œμ§€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:38
Let's leave criminals and corrupt officials without access to their money
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λ²”μ£„μžλ“€κ³Ό λΆ€νŒ¨ν•œ κ΄€λ¦¬μžλ“€μ„ κ·Έλ“€μ˜ 돈과 뢄리해야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:43
before it’s [too late].
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더 늦기 전에 말이죠.
08:45
This is where journalists need help from activists,
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이λ₯Ό μœ„ν•΄μ„œ 언둠인듀은 μš΄λ™κ°€λ“€μ˜ 도움이 ν•„μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:48
politicians
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μ •μΉ˜μΈκ³Ό 심지어 μ€ν–‰κ°€λ“€μ˜ 도움도 ν•„μš”ν•˜μ£ .
08:49
and even bankers,
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08:50
not just from each other.
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λ‹¨μˆœνžˆ 각각의 μ—°κ²°λ§Œμ΄ μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:52
We must expand our cross-border networks outside of the media world too,
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ꡭ제적인 연결망을 λ„“ν˜€μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
언둠계보닀 더 λ„“κ²Œμš”.
08:58
because every exposed, corrupt official,
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ λͺ¨λ“  λΆ€νŒ¨ν•œ 관리듀을 λ“œλŸ¬λ‚΄κ³ 
09:01
every arrested organized crime leader
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λͺ¨λ“  쑰직 범죄 두λͺ©λ“€μ„ μ²΄ν¬ν•˜λŠ” 것은
09:03
is a chance to protect our world not only from smugglers and thieves,
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세계λ₯Ό λ°€μˆ˜κΎΌκ³Ό λ„λ‘‘λ“€λ‘œλΆ€ν„° λ³΄ν˜Έν•  뿐 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
09:07
but also from dictators and warmongers.
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λ…μž¬μžμ™€ μ „μŸκ΄‘λ“€λ‘œλΆ€ν„°λ„ λ³΄ν˜Έν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:10
Thank you.
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κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:11
(Applause and cheers)
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(λ°•μˆ˜, ν™˜ν˜Έ)
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