How we can make racism a solvable problem -- and improve policing | Dr. Phillip Atiba Goff

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When people meet me for the first time on my job,
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they often feel inspired to share a revelation they've had about me,
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and it kind of goes something like this.
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"Hey, I know why police chiefs
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like to share their deep, dark secrets with you.
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Phil, with your PhD in psychology,
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and your shiny bald head,
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you're basically the Black Dr. Phil, right?"
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(Laughter)
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And for each and every person who's ever said that to me
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I do want to say thank you
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because that was the first time I ever heard that joke.
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(Laughter)
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But for everybody else, I really hope you'll believe me
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when I tell you no police chief likes talking to me
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because they think I'm a clinical psychologist.
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And also I'm not.
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I have no idea what your mother did to you, and I can't help.
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(Laughter)
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Police chiefs like talking to me
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because I'm an expert on a problem that feels impossible for them to solve:
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racism in their profession.
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Now my expertise comes from being a scientist
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who studies how our minds learn to associate Blackness and crime
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and misperceive Black children as older than they actually are.
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It also comes from studying actual police behavior,
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which is how I know that every year,
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about one in five adults in the United States
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has contact with law enforcement.
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Out of those, about a million are targeted for police use of force.
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And if you're Black,
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you're two to four times more likely to be targeted for that force
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than if you're white.
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But it also comes from knowing what those statistics feel like.
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I've experienced the fear of seeing an officer unclip their gun
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and the panic of realizing that someone might mistake my 13-year-old godson
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as old enough to be a threat.
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So when a police chief,
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or a pastor,
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or an imam, or a mother --
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when they call me after an officer shoots another unarmed Black child,
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I understand a bit of the pain in their voice.
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It's the pain of a heart breaking when it fails to solve a deadly problem.
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Breaking from trying to do something
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that feels simultaneously necessary and impossible.
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The way trying to fix racism usually feels.
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Necessary and impossible.
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So, police chiefs like talking to me because I'm an expert,
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but I doubt they'd be lining up to lie down on Dr. Phil's couch
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if I told them all their problems were hopeless.
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All of my research,
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and the decade of work I've done with my center --
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the Center for Policing Equity --
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actually leads me to a hopeful conclusion
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amidst all the heartbreak of race in America,
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which is this:
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trying to solve racism feels impossible
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because our definition of racism makes it impossible --
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but it doesn't have to be that way.
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So here's what I mean.
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The most common definition of racism
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is that racist behaviors are the product of contaminated hearts and minds.
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When you listen to the way we talk about trying to cure racism,
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you'll hear it.
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"We need to stamp out hatred.
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We need to combat ignorance," right?
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It's hearts and minds.
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Now the only problem with that definition is that it's completely wrong --
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both scientifically and otherwise.
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One of the foundational insights of social psychology
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is that attitudes are very weak predictors of behaviors,
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but more importantly than that,
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no Black community has ever taken to the streets
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to demand that white people would love us more.
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Communities march to stop the killing,
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because racism is about behaviors, not feelings.
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And even when civil rights leaders
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like King and Fannie Lou Hamer used the language of love,
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the racism they fought,
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that was segregation and brutality.
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It's actions over feelings.
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And every one of those leaders would agree,
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if a definition of racism makes it harder to see
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the injuries racism causes,
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that's not just wrong.
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A definition that cares about the intentions of abusers
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more than the harms to the abused --
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that definition of racism is racist.
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But when we change the definition of racism from attitudes to behaviors,
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we transform that problem from impossible to solvable.
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Because you can measure behaviors.
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And when you can measure a problem,
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you can tap into one of the only universal rules of organizational success.
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You've got a problem or a goal, you measure it,
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you hold yourself accountable to that metric.
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So if every other organization measures success this way,
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why can't we do that in policing?
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It turns out we actually already do.
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Police departments already practice data-driven accountability,
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it's just for crime.
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The vast majority of police departments across the United States
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use a system called CompStat.
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It's a process that, when you use it right,
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it identifies crime data,
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it tracks it and identifies patterns,
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and then it allows departments to hold themselves accountable
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to public safety goals.
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It usually works either by directing police attentions and police resources,
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or changing police behavior once they show up.
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So if I see a string of muggings in that neighborhood,
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I'm going to want to increase patrols in that neighborhood.
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If I see a spike in homicides,
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I'm going to want to talk to the community to find out why
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and collaborate on changes on police behavior to tamp down the violence.
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Now when you define racism in terms of measurable behaviors,
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you can do the same thing.
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You can create a CompStat for justice.
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That's exactly what the Center for Policing Equity has been doing.
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So let me tell you how that works.
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After a police department invites us in,
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we handle the legal stuff, we engage with the community,
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our next step is to analyze their data.
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The goal of these analyses is to determine
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how much do crime, poverty, neighborhood demographics
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predict, let's say, police use of force?
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Let's say that those factors predict
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police will use force on this many Black people.
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There?
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So our next question is,
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how many Black people actually are targeted
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for police use of force?
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Let's say it's this many.
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So what's up with the gap?
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Well, a big portion of the gap is the difference
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between what's predicted by things police can't control
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and what's predicted by things police can control --
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their policies and their behaviors.
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And what we're looking for are the types of contact
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or the areas in the city
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where that gap is biggest,
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because then we can tell our partners,
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"Look here. Solve this problem first."
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It's actually the kind of therapy police chiefs can get behind,
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because there is nothing so inspiring in the face of our history of racism
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as a solvable problem.
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Look, if the community in Minneapolis asked their police department
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to remedy the moral failings of race in policing,
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I'm not sure they know how to do that.
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But if instead the community says,
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"Hey, you're data say you're beating up a lot of homeless folks.
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You want to knock that off?"
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That's something police can learn how to do.
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And they did.
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So in 2015, the Minneapolis PD let us know
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their community was concerned they were using force too often.
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So we showed them how to leverage their own data
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to identify situations where force could be avoided.
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And when you look at those data,
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you'll see that a disproportionate number of their use-of-force incidents,
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they involved somebody who's homeless, in mental distress,
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has a substance abuse issue or some combination of all three --
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more than you expect
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based on those factors I was just telling you about.
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So right there's the gap.
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Next question is why.
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Well, it turns out homeless folks often need services.
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And when those services are unavailable, when they can't get their meds,
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they lose their spot in the shelter,
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they're more likely to engage in behaviors that end up with folks calling the cops.
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And when the cops show up,
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they're more likely to resist intervention,
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oftentimes because they haven't actually done anything illegal,
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they're literally just living outside.
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The problem wasn't a need to train officers differently in Minneapolis.
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The problem was the fact that folks were using the cops
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to "treat" substance abuse and homelessness in the first place.
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So the city of Minneapolis found a way to deliver social services
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and city resources
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to the homeless community before anybody ever called the cops.
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(Applause)
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Now the problem isn't always homelessness, right?
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Sometimes the problem is fear of immigration enforcement,
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like it was in Salt Lake City, or it is in Houston,
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where the chiefs had to come forward
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and say, "We're not going to deport you just for calling 911."
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Or the problem is foot pursuits,
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like it was in Las Vegas,
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where they had to train their officers to slow down and take a breath
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instead of allowing the adrenaline in that situation to escalate it.
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It's searches in Oakland;
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it's pulling folks out of cars in San Jose;
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it's the way that they patrol the neighborhoods
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that make up Zone 3 in Pittsburgh
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and the Black neighborhoods closest to the waterfront in Baltimore.
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But in each city,
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if we can give them a solvable problem,
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they get busy solving it.
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And together our partners have seen an average of 25 percent fewer arrests,
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fewer use-of-force incidents
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and 13 percent fewer officer-related injuries.
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Essentially, by identifying the biggest gaps
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and directing police attentions to solving it,
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we can deliver a data-driven vaccine against racial disparities in policing.
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Right now, we have the capacity to partner with about 40 cities at a time.
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That means if we want the United States to stop feeling exhausted
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from trying to solve an impossible problem,
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we're going to need a lot more infrastructure.
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Because our goal is to have our tools be able to scale
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the brilliance of dedicated organizers
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and reform-minded chiefs.
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So to get there we're going to need the kind of collective will
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that desegregated schools
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and won the franchise for the sons and daughters of former slaves
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so that we can build a kind of health care system
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capable of delivering our vaccine across the country.
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Because our audacious idea
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is to deliver a CompStat for justice
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to departments serving 100 million people across the United States
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in the next five years.
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(Applause and cheers)
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Doing that would mean arming about a third of the United States
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with tools to reduce racial disparities in police stops, arrests and use of force,
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but also tools to reduce predatory cash bail
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and mass incarceration,
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family instability
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and chronic mental health and substance abuse issues,
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and every other ill that our broken criminal-legal systems aggravate.
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Because every unnecessary arrest we can prevent
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saves a family from the terrifying journey through each one of those systems.
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Just like every gun we can leave holstered
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saves an entire community from a lifetime of grief.
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Look, each and every one of us,
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we measure the things that matter to us.
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Businesses measure profit;
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good students keep track of their grades;
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families chart the growth of their children
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with pencil markings in doorframes.
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We all measure the things that matter most to us,
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which is why we feel the neglect
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when nobody's bothering to measure anything at all.
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For the past quarter millennium,
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we've defined the problems of race and policing
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in a way that's functionally impossible to measure.
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But now the science says we can just change that definition.
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And the folks at the Center for Policing Equity,
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I actually think we may have measured
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more police behavior than any one in human history.
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And that means that once we have the will
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and the resources to do it,
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this could be the generation
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that stops feeling like racism is an unsolvable problem
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and instead sees
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that what's been necessary for far too long is possible.
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Thank you.
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(Applause and cheers)
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