Anders Ynnerman: Visualizing the medical data explosion

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I will start by posing a little bit of a challenge:
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the challenge of dealing with data,
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data that we have to deal with
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in medical situations.
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It's really a huge challenge for us.
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And this is our beast of burden --
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this is a Computer Tomography machine,
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a CT machine.
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It's a fantastic device.
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It uses X-rays, X-ray beams,
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that are rotating very fast around the human body.
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It takes about 30 seconds to go through the whole machine
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and is generating enormous amounts of information
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that comes out of the machine.
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So this is a fantastic machine
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that we can use
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for improving health care,
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but as I said, it's also a challenge for us.
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And the challenge is really found in this picture here.
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It's the medical data explosion
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that we're having right now.
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We're facing this problem.
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And let me step back in time.
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Let's go back a few years in time and see what happened back then.
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These machines that came out --
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they started coming in the 1970s --
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they would scan human bodies,
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and they would generate about 100 images
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of the human body.
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And I've taken the liberty, just for clarity,
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to translate that to data slices.
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That would correspond to about 50 megabytes of data,
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which is small
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when you think about the data we can handle today
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just on normal mobile devices.
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If you translate that to phone books,
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it's about one meter of phone books in the pile.
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Looking at what we're doing today
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with these machines that we have,
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we can, just in a few seconds,
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get 24,000 images out of a body,
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and that would correspond to about 20 gigabytes of data,
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or 800 phone books,
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and the pile would then be 200 meters of phone books.
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What's about to happen --
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and we're seeing this; it's beginning --
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a technology trend that's happening right now
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is that we're starting to look at time-resolved situations as well.
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So we're getting the dynamics out of the body as well.
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And just assume
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that we will be collecting data during five seconds,
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and that would correspond to one terabyte of data --
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that's 800,000 books
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and 16 kilometers of phone books.
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That's one patient, one data set.
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And this is what we have to deal with.
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So this is really the enormous challenge that we have.
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And already today -- this is 25,000 images.
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Imagine the days
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when we had radiologists doing this.
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They would put up 25,000 images,
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they would go like this, "25,0000, okay, okay.
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There is the problem."
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They can't do that anymore. That's impossible.
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So we have to do something that's a little bit more intelligent than doing this.
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So what we do is that we put all these slices together.
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Imagine that you slice your body in all these directions,
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and then you try to put the slices back together again
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into a pile of data, into a block of data.
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So this is really what we're doing.
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So this gigabyte or terabyte of data, we're putting it into this block.
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But of course, the block of data
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just contains the amount of X-ray
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that's been absorbed in each point in the human body.
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So what we need to do is to figure out a way
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of looking at the things we do want to look at
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and make things transparent that we don't want to look at.
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So transforming the data set
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into something that looks like this.
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And this is a challenge.
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This is a huge challenge for us to do that.
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Using computers, even though they're getting faster and better all the time,
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it's a challenge to deal with gigabytes of data,
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terabytes of data
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and extracting the relevant information.
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I want to look at the heart.
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I want to look at the blood vessels. I want to look at the liver.
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Maybe even find a tumor,
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in some cases.
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So this is where this little dear comes into play.
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This is my daughter.
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This is as of 9 a.m. this morning.
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She's playing a computer game.
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She's only two years old,
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and she's having a blast.
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So she's really the driving force
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behind the development of graphics-processing units.
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As long as kids are playing computer games,
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graphics is getting better and better and better.
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So please go back home, tell your kids to play more games,
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because that's what I need.
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So what's inside of this machine
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is what enables me to do the things that I'm doing
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with the medical data.
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So really what I'm doing is using these fantastic little devices.
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And you know, going back
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maybe 10 years in time
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when I got the funding
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to buy my first graphics computer --
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it was a huge machine.
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It was cabinets of processors and storage and everything.
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I paid about one million dollars for that machine.
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That machine is, today, about as fast as my iPhone.
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So every month there are new graphics cards coming out,
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and here is a few of the latest ones from the vendors --
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NVIDIA, ATI, Intel is out there as well.
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And you know, for a few hundred bucks
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you can get these things and put them into your computer,
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and you can do fantastic things with these graphics cards.
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So this is really what's enabling us
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to deal with the explosion of data in medicine,
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together with some really nifty work
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in terms of algorithms --
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compressing data,
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extracting the relevant information that people are doing research on.
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So I'm going to show you a few examples of what we can do.
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This is a data set that was captured using a CT scanner.
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You can see that this is a full data [set].
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It's a woman. You can see the hair.
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You can see the individual structures of the woman.
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You can see that there is [a] scattering of X-rays
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on the teeth, the metal in the teeth.
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That's where those artifacts are coming from.
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But fully interactively
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on standard graphics cards on a normal computer,
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I can just put in a clip plane.
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And of course all the data is inside,
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so I can start rotating, I can look at it from different angles,
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and I can see that this woman had a problem.
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She had a bleeding up in the brain,
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and that's been fixed with a little stent,
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a metal clamp that's tightening up the vessel.
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And just by changing the functions,
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then I can decide what's going to be transparent
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and what's going to be visible.
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I can look at the skull structure,
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and I can see that, okay, this is where they opened up the skull on this woman,
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and that's where they went in.
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So these are fantastic images.
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They're really high resolution,
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and they're really showing us what we can do
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with standard graphics cards today.
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Now we have really made use of this,
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and we have tried to squeeze a lot of data
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into the system.
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And one of the applications that we've been working on --
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and this has gotten a little bit of traction worldwide --
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is the application of virtual autopsies.
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So again, looking at very, very large data sets,
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and you saw those full-body scans that we can do.
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We're just pushing the body through the whole CT scanner,
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and just in a few seconds we can get a full-body data set.
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So this is from a virtual autopsy.
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And you can see how I'm gradually peeling off.
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First you saw the body bag that the body came in,
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then I'm peeling off the skin -- you can see the muscles --
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and eventually you can see the bone structure of this woman.
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Now at this point, I would also like to emphasize
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that, with the greatest respect
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for the people that I'm now going to show --
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I'm going to show you a few cases of virtual autopsies --
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so it's with great respect for the people
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that have died under violent circumstances
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that I'm showing these pictures to you.
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In the forensic case --
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and this is something
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that ... there's been approximately 400 cases so far
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just in the part of Sweden that I come from
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that has been undergoing virtual autopsies
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in the past four years.
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So this will be the typical workflow situation.
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The police will decide --
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in the evening, when there's a case coming in --
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they will decide, okay, is this a case where we need to do an autopsy?
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So in the morning, in between six and seven in the morning,
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the body is then transported inside of the body bag
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to our center
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and is being scanned through one of the CT scanners.
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And then the radiologist, together with the pathologist
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and sometimes the forensic scientist,
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looks at the data that's coming out,
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and they have a joint session.
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And then they decide what to do in the real physical autopsy after that.
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Now looking at a few cases,
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here's one of the first cases that we had.
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You can really see the details of the data set.
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It's very high-resolution,
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and it's our algorithms that allow us
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to zoom in on all the details.
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And again, it's fully interactive,
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so you can rotate and you can look at things in real time
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on these systems here.
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Without saying too much about this case,
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this is a traffic accident,
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a drunk driver hit a woman.
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And it's very, very easy to see the damages on the bone structure.
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And the cause of death is the broken neck.
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And this women also ended up under the car,
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so she's quite badly beaten up
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by this injury.
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Here's another case, a knifing.
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And this is also again showing us what we can do.
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It's very easy to look at metal artifacts
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that we can show inside of the body.
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You can also see some of the artifacts from the teeth --
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that's actually the filling of the teeth --
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but because I've set the functions to show me metal
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and make everything else transparent.
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Here's another violent case. This really didn't kill the person.
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The person was killed by stabs in the heart,
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but they just deposited the knife
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by putting it through one of the eyeballs.
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Here's another case.
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It's very interesting for us
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to be able to look at things like knife stabbings.
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Here you can see that knife went through the heart.
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It's very easy to see how air has been leaking
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from one part to another part,
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which is difficult to do in a normal, standard, physical autopsy.
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So it really, really helps
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the criminal investigation
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to establish the cause of death,
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and in some cases also directing the investigation in the right direction
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to find out who the killer really was.
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Here's another case that I think is interesting.
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Here you can see a bullet
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that has lodged just next to the spine on this person.
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And what we've done is that we've turned the bullet into a light source,
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so that bullet is actually shining,
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and it makes it really easy to find these fragments.
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During a physical autopsy,
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if you actually have to dig through the body to find these fragments,
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that's actually quite hard to do.
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One of the things that I'm really, really happy
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to be able to show you here today
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is our virtual autopsy table.
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It's a touch device that we have developed
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based on these algorithms, using standard graphics GPUs.
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It actually looks like this,
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just to give you a feeling for what it looks like.
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It really just works like a huge iPhone.
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So we've implemented
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all the gestures you can do on the table,
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and you can think of it as an enormous touch interface.
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So if you were thinking of buying an iPad,
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forget about it. This is what you want instead.
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Steve, I hope you're listening to this, all right.
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So it's a very nice little device.
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So if you have the opportunity, please try it out.
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It's really a hands-on experience.
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So it gained some traction, and we're trying to roll this out
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and trying to use it for educational purposes,
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but also, perhaps in the future,
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in a more clinical situation.
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There's a YouTube video that you can download and look at this,
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if you want to convey the information to other people
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about virtual autopsies.
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Okay, now that we're talking about touch,
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let me move on to really "touching" data.
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And this is a bit of science fiction now,
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so we're moving into really the future.
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This is not really what the medical doctors are using right now,
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but I hope they will in the future.
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So what you're seeing on the left is a touch device.
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It's a little mechanical pen
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that has very, very fast step motors inside of the pen.
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And so I can generate a force feedback.
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So when I virtually touch data,
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it will generate forces in the pen, so I get a feedback.
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So in this particular situation,
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it's a scan of a living person.
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I have this pen, and I look at the data,
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and I move the pen towards the head,
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and all of a sudden I feel resistance.
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So I can feel the skin.
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If I push a little bit harder, I'll go through the skin,
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and I can feel the bone structure inside.
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If I push even harder, I'll go through the bone structure,
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especially close to the ear where the bone is very soft.
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And then I can feel the brain inside, and this will be the slushy like this.
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So this is really nice.
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And to take that even further, this is a heart.
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And this is also due to these fantastic new scanners,
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that just in 0.3 seconds,
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I can scan the whole heart,
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and I can do that with time resolution.
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So just looking at this heart,
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I can play back a video here.
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And this is Karljohan, one of my graduate students
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who's been working on this project.
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And he's sitting there in front of the Haptic device, the force feedback system,
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and he's moving his pen towards the heart,
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and the heart is now beating in front of him,
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so he can see how the heart is beating.
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He's taken the pen, and he's moving it towards the heart,
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and he's putting it on the heart,
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and then he feels the heartbeats from the real living patient.
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Then he can examine how the heart is moving.
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He can go inside, push inside of the heart,
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and really feel how the valves are moving.
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And this, I think, is really the future for heart surgeons.
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I mean it's probably the wet dream for a heart surgeon
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to be able to go inside of the patient's heart
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before you actually do surgery,
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and do that with high-quality resolution data.
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So this is really neat.
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Now we're going even further into science fiction.
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And we heard a little bit about functional MRI.
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Now this is really an interesting project.
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MRI is using magnetic fields
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and radio frequencies
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to scan the brain, or any part of the body.
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So what we're really getting out of this
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is information of the structure of the brain,
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but we can also measure the difference
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in magnetic properties of blood that's oxygenated
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and blood that's depleted of oxygen.
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That means that it's possible
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to map out the activity of the brain.
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So this is something that we've been working on.
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And you just saw Motts the research engineer, there,
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going into the MRI system,
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and he was wearing goggles.
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So he could actually see things in the goggles.
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So I could present things to him while he's in the scanner.
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And this is a little bit freaky,
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because what Motts is seeing is actually this.
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He's seeing his own brain.
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So Motts is doing something here,
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and probably he is going like this with his right hand,
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because the left side is activated
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on the motor cortex.
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And then he can see that at the same time.
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These visualizations are brand new.
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And this is something that we've been researching for a little while.
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This is another sequence of Motts' brain.
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And here we asked Motts to calculate backwards from 100.
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So he's going "100, 97, 94."
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And then he's going backwards.
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And you can see how the little math processor is working up here in his brain
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and is lighting up the whole brain.
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Well this is fantastic. We can do this in real time.
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We can investigate things. We can tell him to do things.
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You can also see that his visual cortex
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is activated in the back of the head,
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because that's where he's seeing, he's seeing his own brain.
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And he's also hearing our instructions
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when we tell him to do things.
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The signal is really deep inside of the brain as well,
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and it's shining through,
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because all of the data is inside this volume.
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And in just a second here you will see --
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okay, here. Motts, now move your left foot.
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So he's going like this.
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For 20 seconds he's going like that,
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and all of a sudden it lights up up here.
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So we've got motor cortex activation up there.
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So this is really, really nice,
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and I think this is a great tool.
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And connecting also with the previous talk here,
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this is something that we could use as a tool
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to really understand
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how the neurons are working, how the brain is working,
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and we can do this with very, very high visual quality
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and very fast resolution.
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Now we're also having a bit of fun at the center.
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So this is a CAT scan -- Computer Aided Tomography.
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So this is a lion from the local zoo
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outside of Norrkoping in Kolmarden, Elsa.
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So she came to the center,
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and they sedated her
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and then put her straight into the scanner.
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And then, of course, I get the whole data set from the lion.
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And I can do very nice images like this.
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I can peel off the layer of the lion.
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I can look inside of it.
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And we've been experimenting with this.
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And I think this is a great application
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for the future of this technology,
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because there's very little known about the animal anatomy.
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What's known out there for veterinarians is kind of basic information.
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We can scan all sorts of things,
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all sorts of animals.
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The only problem is to fit it into the machine.
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So here's a bear.
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It was kind of hard to get it in.
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And the bear is a cuddly, friendly animal.
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And here it is. Here is the nose of the bear.
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And you might want to cuddle this one,
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until you change the functions and look at this.
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So be aware of the bear.
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So with that,
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I'd like to thank all the people
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who have helped me to generate these images.
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It's a huge effort that goes into doing this,
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gathering the data and developing the algorithms,
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writing all the software.
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So, some very talented people.
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My motto is always, I only hire people that are smarter than I am
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and most of these are smarter than I am.
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So thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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