How we experience time and memory through art | Sarah Sze

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I want to start with a question.
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Where does an artwork begin?
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Now sometimes that question is absurd.
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It can seem deceptively simple,
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as it was when I asked the question with this piece, "Portable Planetarium,"
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that I made in 2010.
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I asked the question:
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"What would it look like to build a planetarium of one's own?"
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I know you all ask that every morning,
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but I asked myself that question.
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And as an artist,
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I was thinking about our effort,
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our desire, our continual longing that we've had over the years
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to make meaning of the world around us
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through materials.
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And for me, to try and find the kind of wonder,
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but also a kind of futility that lies in that very fragile pursuit,
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is part of my art work.
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So I bring together the materials I find around me,
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I gather them to try and create experiences,
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immersive experiences that occupy rooms,
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that occupy walls, landscapes, buildings.
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But ultimately, I want them to occupy memory.
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And after I've made a work,
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I find that there's usually one memory of that work that burns in my head.
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And this is the memory for me --
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it was this sudden kind of surprising experience
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of being immersed inside that work of art.
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And it stayed with me and kind of reoccurred in my work
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about 10 years later.
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But I want to go back to my graduate school studio.
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I think it's interesting, sometimes, when you start a body of work,
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you need to just completely wipe the plate clean,
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take everything away.
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And this may not look like wiping the plate clean,
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but for me, it was.
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Because I had studied painting for about 10 years,
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and when I went to graduate school,
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I realized that I had developed skill, but I didn't have a subject.
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It was like an athletic skill,
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because I could paint the figure quickly,
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but I didn't know why.
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I could paint it well, but it didn't have content.
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And so I decided to put all the paints aside for a while,
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and to ask this question, which was:
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"Why and how do objects acquire value for us?"
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How does a shirt that I know thousands of people wear,
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a shirt like this one,
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how does it somehow feel like it's mine?
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So I started with that experiment,
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I decided, by collecting materials that had a certain quality to them.
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They were mass-produced, easily accessible,
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completely designed for the purpose of their use,
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not for their aesthetic.
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So things like toothpicks, thumbtacks,
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pieces of toilet paper,
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to see if in the way that I put my energy, my hand, my time into them,
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that the behavior could actually create a kind of value in the work itself.
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One of the other ideas is, I wanted the work to become live.
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So I wanted to take it off of the pedestal,
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not have a frame around it,
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have the experience not be that you came to something
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and told you that it was important,
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but that you discover that it was in your own time.
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So this is like a very, very old idea in sculpture,
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which is: How do we breathe life into inanimate materials?
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And so, I would go to a space like this,
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where there was a wall,
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and use the paint itself,
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pull the paint out off the wall,
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the wall paint into space to create a sculpture.
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Because I was also interested in this idea
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that these terms, "sculpture," "painting," "installation" --
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none of these mattered in the way we actually see the world.
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So I wanted to blur those boundaries,
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both between mediums that artists talk about,
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but also blur the experience of being in life and being in art,
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so that when you are in your everyday,
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or when you are in one of my works,
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and you saw, you recognized the everyday,
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you could then move that experience into your own life,
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and perhaps see the art in everyday life.
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I was in graduate school in the '90s,
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and my studio just became more and more filled with images,
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as did my life.
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And this confusion of images and objects
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was really part of the way I was trying to make sense of materials.
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And also, I was interested in how this might change
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the way that we actually experience time.
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If we're experiencing time through materials,
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what happens when images and objects become confused in space?
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So I started by doing some of these experiments with images.
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And if you look back to the 1880s,
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that's when the first photographs started turning into film.
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And they were done through studies of animals,
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the movement of animals.
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So horses in the United States, birds in France.
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They were these studies of movement
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that then slowly, like zoetropes, became film.
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So I decided, I will take an animal
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and I'm going to play with that idea
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of how the image is not static for us anymore, it's moving.
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It's moving in space.
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And so I chose as my character the cheetah,
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because she is the fastest land-dwelling creature on earth.
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And she holds that record,
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and I want to use her record
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to actually make it kind of a measuring stick for time.
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And so this is what she looked like in the sculpture
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as she moved through space.
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This kind of broken framing of the image in space,
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because I had put up notepad paper
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and had it actually project on it.
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Then I did this experiment where you have kind of a race,
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with these new tools and video that I could play with.
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So the falcon moves out in front,
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the cheetah, she comes in second,
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and the rhino is trying to catch up behind.
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Then another one of the experiments,
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I was thinking about how,
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if we try and remember one thing that happened to us
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when we were, let's say, 10 years old.
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It's very hard to remember even what happened in that year.
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And for me, I can think of maybe one, maybe two,
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and that one moment has expanded in my mind
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to fill that entire year.
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So we don't experience time in minutes and seconds.
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So this is a still of the video that I took,
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printed out on a piece of paper,
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the paper is torn and then the video is projected on top of it.
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And I wanted to play with this idea
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of how, in this kind of complete immersion of images
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that's enveloped us,
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how one image can actually grow
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and can haunt us.
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So I had all of these --
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these are three out of, like, 100 experiments I was trying with images
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for over about a decade,
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and never showing them,
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and I thought, OK, how do I bring this out of the studio, into a public space,
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but retain this kind of energy of experimentation
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that you see when you go into a laboratory,
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you see when you go into a studio,
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and I had this show coming up and I just said,
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alright, I'm going to put my desk right in the middle of the room.
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So I brought my desk and I put it in the room,
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and it actually worked in this kind of very surprising way to me,
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in that it was this kind of flickering, because of the video screens, from afar.
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And it had all of the projectors on it,
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so the projectors were creating the space around it,
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but you were drawn towards the flickering like a flame.
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And then you were enveloped in the piece
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at the scale that we're all very familiar with,
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which is the scale of being in front of a desk or a sink or a table,
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and you are immersed, then, back into this scale,
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this one-to-one scale of the body in relation to the image.
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But on this surface,
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you had these projections on paper being blown in the wind,
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so there was this confusion of what was an image
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and what was an object.
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So this is what the work looked like when it went into a larger room,
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and it wasn't until I made this piece
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that I realized that I'd effectively made the interior of a planetarium,
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without even realizing that.
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And I remembered, as a child, loving going to the planetarium.
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And back then, the planetarium,
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there was always not only these amazing images on the ceiling,
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but you could see the projector itself whizzing and burring,
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and this amazing camera in the middle of the room.
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And it was that, along with seeing the audience around you looking up,
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because there was an audience in the round at that time,
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and seeing them, and experiencing, being part of an audience.
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So this is an image from the web that I downloaded
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of people who took images of themselves in the work.
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And I like this image
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because you see how the figures get mixed with the work.
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So you have the shadow of a visitor against the projection,
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and you also see the projections across a person's shirt.
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So there were these self-portraits made in the work itself,
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and then posted,
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and it felt like a kind of cyclical image-making process.
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And a kind of an end to that.
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But it reminded me and brought me back to the planetarium,
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and that interior,
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and I started to go back to painting.
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And thinking about how a painting is actually, for me,
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about the interior images that we all have.
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There's so many interior images,
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and we've become so focused on what's outside our eyes.
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And how do we store memory in our mind,
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how certain images emerge out of nowhere
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or can fall apart over time.
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And I started to call this series the "Afterimage" series,
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which was a reference to this idea that if we all close our eyes right now,
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you can see there's this flickering light that lingers,
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and when we open it again, it lingers again --
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this is happening all the time.
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And an afterimage is something that a photograph can never replace,
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you never feel that in a photograph.
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So it really reminds you of the limits of the camera's lens.
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So it was this idea of taking the images that were outside of me --
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this is my studio --
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and then trying to figure out how they were being represented inside me.
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So really quickly,
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I'm just going to whiz through how a process might develop
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for the next piece.
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So it might start with a sketch,
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or an image that's burned in my memory
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from the 18th century --
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it's Piranesi's "Colosseum."
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Or a model the size of a basketball --
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I built this around a basketball,
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the scale's evidenced by the red cup behind it.
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And that model can be put into a larger piece as a seed,
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and that seed can grow into a bigger piece.
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And that piece can fill a very, very large space.
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But it can funnel down into a video that's just made from my iPhone,
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of a puddle outside my studio in a rainy night.
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So this is an afterimage of the painting made in my memory,
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and even that painting can fade as memory does.
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So this is the scale of a very small image
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from my sketchbook.
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You can see how it can explode
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to a subway station that spans three blocks.
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And you could see how going into the subway station
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is like a journey through the pages of a sketchbook,
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and you can see sort of a diary of work writ across a public space,
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and you're turning the pages of 20 years of art work
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as you move through the subway.
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But even that sketch actually has a different origin,
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it has an origin in a sculpture that climbs a six-story building,
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and is scaled to a cat from the year 2002.
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I remember that because I had two black cats at the time.
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And this is an image of a work from Japan
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that you can see the afterimage of in the subway.
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Or a work in Venice,
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where you see the image etched in the wall.
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Or how a sculpture that I did at SFMOMA in 2001,
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and created this kind of dynamic line,
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how I stole that to create a dynamic line
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as you descend down into the subway itself.
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And this merging of mediums is really interesting to me.
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So how can you take a line that pulls tension like a sculpture
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and put it into a print?
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Or then use line like a drawing in a sculpture
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to create a dramatic perspective?
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Or how can a painting mimic the process of printmaking?
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How can an installation use the camera's lens
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to frame a landscape?
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How can a painting on string become a moment in Denmark,
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in the middle of a trek?
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And how, on the High Line, can you create a piece
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that camouflages itself into the nature itself
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and becomes a habitat for the nature around it?
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And I'll just end with two pieces that I'm making now.
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This is a piece called "Fallen Sky"
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that's going to be a permanent commission in Hudson Valley,
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and it's kind of the planetarium finally come down
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and grounding itself in the earth.
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And this is a work from 2013 that's going to be reinstalled,
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have a new life in the reopening of MOMA.
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And it's a piece that the tool itself is the sculpture.
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So the pendulum, as it swings,
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is used as a tool to create the piece.
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So each of the piles of objects
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go right up to one centimeter to the tip of that pendulum.
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So you have this combination of the lull of that beautiful swing,
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but also the tension that it constantly could destroy the piece itself.
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And so, it doesn't really matter where any of these pieces end up,
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because the real point for me
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is that they end up in your memory over time,
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and they generate ideas beyond themselves.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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