Barry Schuler: An introduction to genomics

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What's happening in genomics,
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and how this revolution is about to change everything we know
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about the world, life, ourselves, and how we think about them.
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If you saw 2001: A Space Odyssey,
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and you heard the boom, boom, boom, boom, and you saw the monolith,
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you know, that was Arthur C. Clarke's representation
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that we were at a seminal moment in the evolution of our species.
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In this case, it was picking up bones and creating a tool,
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using it as a tool, which meant that apes just, sort of,
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running around and eating and doing each other
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figured out they can make things if they used a tool.
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And that moved us to the next level.
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And, you know, we in the last 30 years in particular
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have seen this acceleration in knowledge and technology,
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and technology has bred more knowledge and given us tools.
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And we've seen many seminal moments.
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We've seen the creation of small computers in the '70s and early '80s,
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and who would have thought back then that every single person
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would not have just one computer but probably 20,
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in your home, and in not just your P.C. but in every device --
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in your washing machine, your cell phone.
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You're walking around; your car has 12 microprocessors.
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Then we go along and create the Internet
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and connect the world together; we flatten the world.
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We've seen so much change, and we've given ourselves these tools now --
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these high-powered tools --
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that are allowing us to turn the lens inward
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into something that is common to all of us, and that is a genome.
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How's your genome today? Have you thought about it lately?
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Heard about it, at least? You probably hear about genomes these days.
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I thought I'd take a moment to tell you what a genome is.
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It's, sort of, like if you ask people,
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Well, what is a megabyte or megabit? And what is broadband?
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People never want to say, I really don't understand.
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So, I will tell you right off of the bat.
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You've heard of DNA; you probably studied a little bit in biology.
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A genome is really a description for all of the DNA that is in a living organism.
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And one thing that is common to all of life is DNA.
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It doesn't matter whether you're a yeast;
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it doesn't matter whether you're a mouse;
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doesn't matter whether you're a fly; we all have DNA.
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The DNA is organized in words, call them: genes and chromosomes.
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And when Watson and Crick in the '50s
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first decoded this beautiful double helix that we know as the DNA molecule --
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very long, complicated molecule --
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we then started on this journey to understand that
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inside of that DNA is a language that determines the characteristics, our traits,
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what we inherit, what diseases we may get.
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We've also along the way discovered that this is a very old molecule,
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that all of the DNA in your body has been around forever,
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since the beginning of us, of us as creatures.
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There is a historical archive.
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Living in your genome is the history of our species,
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and you as an individual human being, where you're from,
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going back thousands and thousands and thousands of years,
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and that's now starting to be understood.
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But also, the genome is really the instruction manual.
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It is the program. It is the code of life.
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It is what makes you function;
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it is what makes every organism function.
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DNA is a very elegant molecule.
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It's long and it's complicated.
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Really all you have to know about it is that there's four letters:
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A, T, C, G; they represent the name of a chemical.
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And with these four letters, you can create a language:
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a language that can describe anything, and very complicated things.
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You know, they are generally put together in pairs,
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creating a word or what we call base pairs.
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And you would, you know, when you think about it,
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four letters, or the representation of four things, makes us work.
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And that may not sound very intuitive,
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but let me flip over to something else you know about, and that's computers.
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Look at this screen here and, you know, you see pictures
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and you see words, but really all there are are ones and zeros.
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The language of technology is binary;
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you've probably heard that at some point in time.
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Everything that happens in digital is converted,
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or a representation, of a one and a zero.
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So, when you're listening to iTunes and your favorite music,
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that's really just a bunch of ones and zeros playing very quickly.
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When you're seeing these pictures, it's all ones and zeros,
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and when you're talking on your telephone, your cell phone,
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and it's going over the network,
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your voice is all being turned into ones and zeros and magically whizzed around.
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And look at all the complex things and wonderful things
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we've been able to create with just a one and a zero.
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Well, now you ramp that up to four, and you have a lot of complexity,
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a lot of ways to describe mechanisms.
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So, let's talk about what that means.
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So, if you look at a human genome,
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they consist of 3.2 billion of these base pairs. That's a lot.
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And they mix up in all different fashions,
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and that makes you a human being.
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If you convert that to binary, just to give you a little bit of sizing,
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we're actually smaller than the program Microsoft Office.
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It's not really all that much data.
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I will also tell you we're at least as buggy.
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(Laughter)
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This here is a bug in my genome
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that I have struggled with for a long, long time.
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When you get sick, it is a bug in your genome.
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In fact, many, many diseases we have struggled with for a long time,
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like cancer, we haven't been able to cure
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because we just don't understand how it works at the genomic level.
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We are starting to understand that.
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So, up to this point we tried to fix it
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by using what I call shit-against-the-wall pharmacology,
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which means, well, let's just throw chemicals at it,
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and maybe it's going to make it work.
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But if you really understand why does a cell go from normal cell to cancer?
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What is the code?
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What are the exact instructions that are making it do that?
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then you can go about the process of trying to fix it and figure it out.
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So, for your next dinner over a great bottle of wine, here's a few factoids for you.
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We actually have about 24,000 genes that do things.
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We have about a hundred, 120,000 others
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that don't appear to function every day,
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but represent this archival history of how we used to work as a species
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going back tens of thousands of years.
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You might also be interested in knowing
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that a mouse has about the same amount of genes.
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They recently sequenced Pinot Noir, and it also has about 30,000 genes,
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so the number of genes you have may not necessarily represent the complexity
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or the evolutionary order of any particular species.
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Now, look around: just look next to your neighbor,
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look forward, look backward. We all look pretty different.
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A lot of very handsome and pretty people here, skinny, chubby,
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different races, cultures. We are all 99.9% genetically equal.
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It is one one-hundredth of one percent of genetic material
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that makes the difference between any one of us.
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That's a tiny amount of material,
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but the way that ultimately expresses itself
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is what makes changes in humans and in all species.
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So, we are now able to read genomes.
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The first human genome took 10 years, three billion dollars.
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It was done by Dr. Craig Venter.
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And then James Watson's -- one of the co-founders of DNA --
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genome was done for two million dollars, and in just two months.
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And if you think about the computer industry
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and how we've gone from big computers to little ones
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and how they get more powerful and faster all the time,
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the same thing is happening with gene sequencing now:
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we are on the cusp of being able to sequence human genomes
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for about 5,000 dollars in about an hour or a half-hour;
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you will see that happen in the next five years.
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And what that means is, you are going to walk around
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with your own personal genome on a smart card. It will be here.
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And when you buy medicine,
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you won't be buying a drug that's used for everybody.
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You will give your genome to the pharmacist,
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and your drug will be made for you
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and it will work much better than the ones that were --
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you won't have side effects.
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All those side effects, you know, oily residue and, you know,
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whatever they say in those commercials: forget about that.
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They're going to make all that stuff go away.
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What does a genome look like?
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Well, there it is. It is a long, long series of these base pairs.
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If you saw the genome for a mouse or for a human it would look no different than this,
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but what scientists are doing now is
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they're understanding what these do and what they mean.
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Because what Nature is doing is double-clicking all the time.
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In other words, the first couple of sentences here,
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assuming this is a grape plant:
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make a root, make a branch, create a blossom.
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In a human being, down in here it could be:
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make blood cells, start cancer.
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For me it may be: every calorie you consume, you conserve,
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because I come from a very cold climate.
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For my wife: eat three times as much and you never put on any weight.
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It's all hidden in this code,
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and it's starting to be understood at breakneck pace.
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So, what can we do with genomes now that we can read them,
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now that we're starting to have the book of life?
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Well, there's many things. Some are exciting.
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Some people will find very scary. I will tell you a couple of things
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that will probably make you want to projectile puke on me, but that's okay.
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So, you know, we now can learn the history of organisms.
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You can do a very simple test: scrape your cheek; send it off.
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You can find out where your relatives come from;
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you can do your genealogy going back thousands of years.
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We can understand functionality. This is really important.
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We can understand, for example, why we create plaque in our arteries,
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what creates the starchiness inside of a grain,
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why does yeast metabolize sugar and produce carbon dioxide.
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We can also look at, at a grander scale, what creates problems,
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what creates disease, and how we may be able to fix them.
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Because we can understand this,
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we can fix them, make better organisms.
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Most importantly, what we're learning
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is that Nature has provided us a spectacular toolbox.
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The toolbox exists.
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An architect far better and smarter than us has given us that toolbox,
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and we now have the ability to use it.
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We are now not just reading genomes; we are writing them.
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This company, Synthetic Genomics, I'm involved with,
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created the first full synthetic genome for a little bug,
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a very primitive creature called Mycoplasma genitalium.
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If you have a UTI, you've probably -- or ever had a UTI --
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you've come in contact with this little bug.
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Very simple -- only has about 246 genes --
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but we were able to completely synthesize that genome.
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Now, you have the genome and you say to yourself,
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So, if I plug this synthetic genome -- if I pull the old one out and plug it in --
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does it just boot up and live?
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Well, guess what. It does.
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Not only does it do that; if you took the genome -- that synthetic genome --
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and you plugged it into a different critter, like yeast,
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you now turn that yeast into Mycoplasma.
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It's, sort of, like booting up a PC with a Mac O.S. software.
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Well, actually, you could do it the other way.
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So, you know, by being able to write a genome
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and plug it into an organism,
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the software, if you will, changes the hardware.
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And this is extremely profound.
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So, last year the French and Italians announced
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they got together and they went ahead and they sequenced Pinot Noir.
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The genomic sequence now exists for the entire Pinot Noir organism,
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and they identified, once again, about 29,000 genes.
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They have discovered pathways that create flavors,
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although it's very important to understand
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that those compounds that it's cranking out
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have to match a receptor in our genome, in our tongue,
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for us to understand and interpret those flavors.
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They've also discovered that
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there's a heck of a lot of activity going on producing aroma as well.
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They've identified areas of vulnerability to disease.
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They now are understanding, and the work is going on,
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exactly how this plant works, and we have the capability to know,
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to read that entire code and understand how it ticks.
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So, then what do you do?
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Knowing that we can read it, knowing that we can write it, change it,
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maybe write its genome from scratch. So, what do you do?
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Well, one thing you could do is what some people might call Franken-Noir.
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(Laughter)
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We can build a better vine.
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By the way, just so you know:
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you get stressed out about genetically modified organisms;
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there is not one single vine in this valley or anywhere
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that is not genetically modified.
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They're not grown from seeds; they're grafted into root stock;
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they would not exist in nature on their own.
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So, don't worry about, don't stress about that stuff. We've been doing this forever.
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So, we could, you know, focus on disease resistance;
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we can go for higher yields without necessarily having
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dramatic farming techniques to do it, or costs.
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We could conceivably expand the climate window:
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we could make Pinot Noir grow maybe in Long Island, God forbid.
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(Laughter)
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We could produce better flavors and aromas.
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You want a little more raspberry, a little more chocolate here or there?
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All of these things could conceivably be done,
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and I will tell you I'd pretty much bet that it will be done.
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But there's an ecosystem here.
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In other words, we're not, sort of, unique little organisms running around;
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we are part of a big ecosystem.
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In fact -- I'm sorry to inform you --
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that inside of your digestive tract is about 10 pounds of microbes
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which you're circulating through your body quite a bit.
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Our ocean's teaming with microbes;
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in fact, when Craig Venter went and sequenced the microbes in the ocean,
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in the first three months tripled the known species on the planet
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by discovering all-new microbes in the first 20 feet of water.
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We now understand that those microbes have more impact on our climate
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and regulating CO2 and oxygen than plants do,
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which we always thought oxygenate the atmosphere.
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We find microbial life in every part of the planet:
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in ice, in coal, in rocks, in volcanic vents; it's an amazing thing.
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But we've also discovered, when it comes to plants, in plants,
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as much as we understand and are starting to understand their genomes,
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it is the ecosystem around them,
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it is the microbes that live in their root systems,
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that have just as much impact on the character of those plants
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as the metabolic pathways of the plants themselves.
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If you take a closer look at a root system,
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you will find there are many, many, many diverse microbial colonies.
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This is not big news to viticulturists;
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they have been, you know, concerned with water and fertilization.
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And, again, this is, sort of, my notion of shit-against-the-wall pharmacology:
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you know certain fertilizers make the plant more healthy so you put more in.
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You don't necessarily know with granularity
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exactly what organisms are providing what flavors and what characteristics.
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We can start to figure that out.
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We all talk about terroir; we worship terroir;
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we say, Wow, is my terroir great! It's so special.
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I've got this piece of land and it creates terroir like you wouldn't believe.
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Well, you know, we really, we argue and debate about it --
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we say it's climate, it's soil, it's this. Well, guess what?
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We can figure out what the heck terroir is.
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It's in there, waiting to be sequenced.
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There are thousands of microbes there.
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They're easy to sequence: unlike a human,
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they, you know, have a thousand, two thousand genes;
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we can figure out what they are.
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All we have to do is go around and sample, dig into the ground, find those bugs,
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sequence them, correlate them to the kinds of characteristics we like and don't like --
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that's just a big database -- and then fertilize.
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And then we understand what is terroir.
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So, some people will say, Oh, my God, are we playing God?
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Are we now, if we engineer organisms, are we playing God?
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And, you know, people would always ask James Watson --
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he's not always the most politically correct guy ...
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(Laughter)
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... and they would say, "Are, you know, are you playing God?"
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And he had the best answer I ever heard to this question:
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"Well, somebody has to."
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(Laughter)
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I consider myself a very spiritual person,
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and without, you know, the organized religion part,
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and I will tell you: I don't believe there's anything unnatural.
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I don't believe that chemicals are unnatural.
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I told you I'm going to make some of you puke.
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It's very simple: we don't invent molecules, compounds.
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They're here. They're in the universe.
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We reorganize things, we change them around,
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but we don't make anything unnatural.
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Now, we can create bad impacts --
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we can poison ourselves; we can poison the Earth --
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but that's just a natural outcome of a mistake we made.
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So, what's happening today is, Nature is presenting us with a toolbox,
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and we find that this toolbox is very extensive.
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There are microbes out there that actually make gasoline, believe it or not.
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There are microbes, you know -- go back to yeast.
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These are chemical factories;
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the most sophisticated chemical factories are provided by Nature,
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and we now can use those.
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There also is a set of rules.
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Nature will not allow you to --
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we could engineer a grape plant, but guess what.
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We can't make the grape plant produce babies.
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Nature has put a set of rules out there.
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We can work within the rules; we can't break the rules;
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we're just learning what the rules are.
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I just ask the question, if you could cure all disease --
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if you could make disease go away,
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because we understand how it actually works,
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if we could end hunger by being able to create nutritious, healthy plants
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that grow in very hard-to-grow environments,
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if we could create clean and plentiful energy --
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we, right in the labs at Synthetic Genomics,
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have single-celled organisms that are taking carbon dioxide
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and producing a molecule very similar to gasoline.
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So, carbon dioxide -- the stuff we want to get rid of -- not sugar, not anything.
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Carbon dioxide, a little bit of sunlight,
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you end up with a lipid that is highly refined.
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We could solve our energy problems; we can reduce CO2,;
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we could clean up our oceans; we could make better wine.
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If we could, would we?
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Well, you know, I think the answer is very simple:
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working with Nature, working with this tool set that we now understand,
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is the next step in humankind's evolution.
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And all I can tell you is, stay healthy for 20 years.
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If you can stay healthy for 20 years, you'll see 150, maybe 300.
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Thank you.
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