Podcast for English Learners โ€” Travel Stories: SNAKES, BANDITS, and More

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ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ็ฟป่จณใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅญ—ๅน•ใฏๆฉŸๆขฐ็ฟป่จณใงใ™ใ€‚

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But I would scream, I would scream! Actually think I did. Oh! Yeah. Oh, no one laughed
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใฏๅซใณใพใ™ใ€็งใฏๅซใณใพใ™๏ผ ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ ็งใŒใ—ใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใŠใŠ๏ผ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ€ใงใ‚‚่ชฐใ‚‚็ฌ‘ใฃใฆใชใ„
00:06
though. No I guess everybody was scared as well. Yes, so you know. Exactly, it's it's
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ใ€‚ ใ„ใ‚„ใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใ‚‚ๆ€–ใ‹ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใพใ•ใซใ€
00:12
a legitimate reason to scream, I would say.
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ๅซใถๆญฃๅฝ“ใช็†็”ฑใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:17
Alright, so I'm joined in the global studio today by the most lekker teacher in South
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ใ‚ˆใ—ใ€ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏๅ—ใ‚ขใƒ•ใƒชใ‚ซใงๆœ€ใ‚‚ใƒฌใƒƒใ‚ซใƒผใชๆ•™ๅธซ
00:23
Africa, the one and only Casse. Hey, Casse. Hey, Thiago. Hey guys, how's it going? (I'm
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ใ€ๅ”ฏไธ€็„กไบŒใฎ Casse ใŒใ‚ฐใƒญใƒผใƒใƒซ ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚ธใ‚ชใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚ ใญใˆใ€ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€‚ ใญใˆใ€ใƒใ‚ขใ‚ดใ€‚ ็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใ€่ชฟๅญใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ๏ผˆ็งใฏๅ…ƒๆฐ—ใงใ™
00:29
good.) Uh, we were talking earlier about how hot it is, and I think besides that, everything's
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ใ€‚๏ผ‰ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใŸใกใฏใใ‚ŒใŒใฉใ‚Œใปใฉๆš‘ใ„ใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใŸใŒ ใ€ใใ‚Œไปฅๅค–ใฏใ™ในใฆ่‰ฏใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
00:35
good. Yeah. Here in Brazil it's really hot too.
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ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ“ใ“ใƒ–ใƒฉใ‚ธใƒซใ‚‚ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๆš‘ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
00:37
Yeah. We share the same season time, right? We do, we do. But (Yeah.) yeah, I, I guess,
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏๅŒใ˜ๅญฃ็ฏ€ใฎๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ? ใ‚„ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€ใ‚„ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€๏ผˆใˆใˆใ€‚๏ผ‰ใˆใˆใ€็งใฏใ€็งใฏใ€
00:42
you know, it's, it's one of those things where you take it as it comes. Like, what can you
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ๅ–ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใฎ1ใคใงใ™ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€
00:47
do about it, really? So. Yeah. I like that - you take it as it comes.
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆไฝ•ใŒใงใใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใใ‚Œใงใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใฏใใ‚ŒใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™-ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ใใฎใพใพๅ—ใ‘ๅ–ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ณ
00:50
That's cool. (Yeah) Nice. So, uh, today we're gonna be talking all about travel experiences.
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ใ„ใ„ใ€‚ (ใ†ใ‚“) ใ„ใ„ใญใ€‚ ใ•ใฆใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏ ๆ—…่กŒไฝ“้จ“ใซใคใ„ใฆใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:56
Casse and I have here, um, some memorable travel stories to share with you guys today
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ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใจ็งใฏใ“ใ“ใซใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅ็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใจๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใซๆฎ‹ใ‚‹ ๆ—…่กŒใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’
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and to get started with this topic, I have a funny little thing here to read to you guys.
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ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
01:07
It's fun. Yeah. So check it out. Vacation or staycation, you know, not taking time off
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ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใใ‚Œใ‚’ใƒใ‚งใƒƒใ‚ฏใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ไผ‘ๆš‡ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ“ใจใฏใ€้žๅธธใซๅŽ„ไป‹
01:14
can be a huge complication. Whether you see a coral snake next to you or make a taxi driver
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ใชๅ•้กŒใซใชใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ่ฟ‘ใใซใ‚ตใƒณใ‚ดใƒ˜ใƒ“ใŒใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ‚Šใ€ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใ•ใงใ‚ฟใ‚ฏใ‚ทใƒผใฎ้‹่ปขๆ‰‹ใ‚’
01:20
blush with embarrassment, travel stories are always fun to share. In today's episode, we'll
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่ตค้ขใ•ใ›ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ€ๆ—…่กŒใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’ ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ„ใคใงใ‚‚ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใงใฏใ€ๆ—…่กŒไธญใซ็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใŸ
01:25
have some fun by sharing some memorable experiences we've had while traveling. Yeah. Just a little
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ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใซๆฎ‹ใ‚‹ไฝ“้จ“ใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ€ๆฅฝใ—ใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใพใ™ . ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใ—ใŸ
01:27
bit of a quick introthere, right? Did you like what I did there, Casse?
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็ฐกๅ˜ใช็ดนไป‹ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€็งใŒใใ“ใงใ—ใŸใ“ใจใฏๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใฃใŸ๏ผŸ
01:28
I, I thought it was really clever. It sounded like a poem to me, or like a really, you know,
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็งใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่ณขใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ ็งใซใฏ่ฉฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่žใ“ใˆใพใ—ใŸ
01:29
good play on words. I thought it was really good.
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ใ€‚ ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่‰ฏใ‹ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚
01:30
Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's cool. Yeah. Well, we do have some nice words here, right? So,
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ•ใฆใ€ ใ“ใ“ใซใฏใ„ใ„่จ€่‘‰ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
01:31
Casse, what is a staycation? Like, what's the difference between a vacation and a staycation?
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ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒƒใ‚ปใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚คใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใฃใฆไฝ•๏ผŸ ไผ‘ๆš‡ใจใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚คใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใฎ้•ใ„ใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
01:33
So a vacation is, we would use this word when we are traveling. We're going away. We're
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ไผ‘ๆš‡ใจใฏใ€ๆ—…่กŒไธญใซใ“ใฎ่จ€่‘‰ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏๅŽปใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏ
01:39
traveling usually abroad. You know, we tend to differentiate between a staycation and
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้€šๅธธใ€ๆตทๅค–ๆ—…่กŒใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€็งใŸใกใฏ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚คใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใจ
01:43
a vacation as the vacation would be the one where you're going abroad, and the staycation
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ไผ‘ๆš‡ใ‚’ๅŒบๅˆฅใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ไผ‘ๆš‡ใฏ ๆตทๅค–ใซ่กŒใไผ‘ๆš‡ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚คใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใฏ
01:48
is the one where you are staying with, you know, local vacation in your country, in your
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ๆปžๅœจใ™ใ‚‹ไผ‘ๆš‡ใงใ™ใ€‚
01:53
city. And even we often use it to say like, I'm not going away this holiday or this vacation
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่ก—ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€็งใŸใกใงใ•ใˆใ€ ็งใฏใ“ใฎไผ‘ๆ—ฅใ‚„ใ“ใฎไผ‘ๆš‡ใ‚’
01:58
as a holiday, um, we are going to stay at home. So your staycation could just be you
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ไผ‘ๆš‡ใจใ—ใฆๅ‡บใ‹ใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใงใฏใชใใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใŸใกใฏ ๅฎถใซใ„ใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™. ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚คใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใฏใ€ไผ‘ๆ—ฅใซๅฎถใงใใคใ‚ใ„ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
02:05
at home relaxing, um, on your days off. Cool. Yeah. I like the way that the word is
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ใ€‚ ใ„ใ„ใญใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใฏ่จ€่‘‰ใŒ
02:08
formed, right? Staycation. Right? Like, you stay locally. That's interesting. (Yeah,)
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ๅฝขๆˆใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚คใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ€‚ ๅณ๏ผŸ ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ๅœฐๅ…ƒใซใจใฉใพใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ้ข็™ฝใ„ใ€‚ ๏ผˆใ†ใ‚“๏ผ‰
02:09
You know, it's crazy. I, I think that English can be quite literal sometimes, you know,
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ใปใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ฏใƒฌใ‚คใ‚ธใƒผใ ใ‚ˆใ€‚ ็งใฏใ€
02:12
as a non-native speaker of English, I, I know it is that sometimes I can know, as some of
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่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๆฏๅ›ฝ่ชžใจใ—ใชใ„ไบบใจใ—ใฆใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใฏ ๆ™‚ใ€…
02:17
the words can be quite literal. Yeah. If you think about, oh, yeah, it makes sense. Right.
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ใ‹ใชใ‚Šๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šใซใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใ‚Œใฐใ€ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็†ใซใ‹ใชใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅณใ€‚
02:20
Stay-cation. I stay locally. I don't go abroad. (Exactly.) Yeah. That's cool. And, when you
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ใ‚นใƒ†ใ‚คใ‚ซใƒใ‚ชใƒณใ€‚ ็งใฏๅœฐๅ…ƒใซใจใฉใพใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใฏๅค–ๅ›ฝใซ่กŒใใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๏ผˆๆญฃ็ขบใซใ€‚๏ผ‰ใˆใˆใ€‚ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ณใ„ใ„ใ€‚ ใพใŸใ€
02:24
take time off, what do you do? What does that mean?
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ไผ‘ใฟใŒๅ–ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚‰ไฝ•ใ‚’ใ—ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใฉใ†ใ„ใ† ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
02:28
So if you take time off, you're taking a break from doing something, especially work, so
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ไผ‘ๆš‡ใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใ€ ไฝ•ใ‹ใ€็‰นใซไป•ไบ‹ใ‚’ไผ‘ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใชใฎใงใ€
02:34
you can take time off from your studies as well, or you can take time off from doing
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ๅ‹‰ๅผทใ‚‚ไผ‘ใ‚€ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ€็‰นๅฎšใฎๆดปๅ‹•ใ‚’ ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ไผ‘ใ‚€ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใงใใพใ™
02:39
a particular activity. Like maybe I, I'm, I'm used to going to the gym like every day
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ใ€‚ ใŸใถใ‚“็งใฏใ€ ๆฏŽๆ—ฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ‚ธใƒ ใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใซๆ…ฃใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใŒ
02:44
of the week, and then I take time off from going to the gym, means I'm just taking a
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ใ€ ใ‚ธใƒ ใซ่กŒใใฎใ‚’ไผ‘ใ‚€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใ€
02:48
break from doing that activity. Nice. And, hearing this little introduction,
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ใใฎๆดปๅ‹•ใ‚’ไผ‘ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ่‰ฏใ„ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใฎใกใ‚‡ใฃใจใ—ใŸ็ดนไป‹ใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใ€
02:52
we also said the word blush, right? Uh, when you make someone blush, what's that?
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็งใŸใกใฏ่ตค้ขใจใ„ใ†่จ€่‘‰ใ‚‚่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ใˆใˆใจใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ชฐใ‹ใ‚’่ตค้ขใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใจใใ€ใใ‚Œใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹?
02:58
So when you make someone blush you, well, you make them shy or you make them feel a
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ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€่ชฐใ‹ใซ่ตค้ขใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใจใ€ ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใŒใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ๅฐ‘ใ—ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใ„ๆ€ใ„ใ‚’ใ•ใ›ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใพใ™
03:05
little bit embarrassed. Um, so I also wanna add that what it means, what we, when we are
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ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ ใใ‚ŒใŒไฝ•ใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ€็งใŸใกใŒ
03:09
blushing is our cheeks tend to go red, or our faces in general go pink or red. Um, but
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่ตค้ขใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใ€้ ฌใŒ่ตคใใชใ‚‹ๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ€ใพใŸใฏ ไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใซ้ก”ใŒใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฏใพใŸใฏ่ตคใใชใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ไป˜ใ‘ๅŠ ใˆใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™. ใˆใˆใจใ€ใงใ‚‚
03:16
I have, I just wanna add for the ladies out there, I mean, we all love makeup, so blush
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ใ€ใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ๅฅณๆ€งใฎใŸใ‚ใซ่ฟฝๅŠ ใ—ใŸใ„ใฎใงใ™ใŒ ใ€ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใŸใกใฏ็š†ใƒกใ‚คใ‚ฏใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใชใฎใงใ€่ตค้ขใฏใ€
03:21
also refers to, you know, the actual makeup that we use to give ourselves that effect
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ใใฎๅŠนๆžœใ‚’่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใซไธŽใˆใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ๅฎŸ้š›ใฎใƒกใ‚คใ‚ฏใ‚‚ๆŒ‡ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
03:27
because, you know, rosy cheeks (Right) are a sign that you are youthful and you are,
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้ ฌ (ๅณ) ใฏใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่‹ฅใ€…ใ—ใใ€
03:33
you, I don't know, it's just a good positive, healthy sign. Healthy people blush is what
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ†ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฎใ—ใ‚‹ใ—ใงใ™ ใ€‚ ๅฅๅบทใชไบบใŒ่ตค้ขใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏไฝ•ใชใฎใ‹
03:38
the, the idea is there. But yeah, to blush is to get embarrassed or feel embarrassed
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ใ€ใจใ„ใ†่€ƒใˆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใงใ‚‚ใˆใˆใ€่ตค้ขใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใ€ ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใใชใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใใฆ
03:45
and have your cheeks and face go red. Rosy cheeks. That's nice. (Rosy cheeks.) Rosy.
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้ ฌใ‚„้ก”ใŒ่ตคใใชใฃใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™. ใƒใƒฉ่‰ฒใฎ้ ฌใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ใฐใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚ ๏ผˆใƒใƒฉ่‰ฒใฎ้ ฌใ€‚๏ผ‰ใƒใƒฉ่‰ฒใ€‚
03:47
(Yeah. Yeah.) Is it like from the, the color pink, right?
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๏ผˆใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚๏ผ‰ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ€ ใƒ”ใƒณใ‚ฏ่‰ฒใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
03:48
Exactly. Exactly. Very good. Rosy cheeks. Rosy cheeks. Excuse
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ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚ ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚ ใจใฆใ‚‚่‰ฏใ„ใ€‚ ใƒใƒฉ่‰ฒใฎ้ ฌใ€‚ ใƒใƒฉ่‰ฒใฎ้ ฌใ€‚
03:52
me. Not chicks. Rosy cheeks. Okay. That's cool. (Yeah.) Uh, when we were prepping for
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ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใฒใ‚ˆใ“ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใƒใƒฉ่‰ฒใฎ้ ฌใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ณ ใ„ใ„ใ€‚ ๏ผˆใˆใˆ๏ผ‰ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ“ใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฎๆบ–ๅ‚™ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใจใ
03:58
this episode, Casse, we were talking about, you know, how sometimes learners they struggle
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ใ€Casseใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ€ใปใ‚‰ใ€ ๅญฆ็ฟ’่€…ใŒ
04:04
to tell the difference between the words holiday, vacation, and trip. Right? They can be quite
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ไผ‘ๆ—ฅใ€ ไผ‘ๆš‡ใ€ๆ—…่กŒใจใ„ใ†่จ€่‘‰ใฎ้•ใ„ใ‚’่ฆ‹ๅˆ†ใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใซ่‹ฆๅŠดใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†่ฉฑใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๅณ๏ผŸ ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏ้žๅธธใซๆททไนฑใ™ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
04:09
confusing. Um, how would you explain the difference of these three words?
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ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ ใ“ใฎ3ใคใฎๅ˜่ชžใฎ้•ใ„ใ‚’ใฉใ†่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ‹?
04:12
Yeah. So, um, with the holi(day), so we know that in American English, you know, if people
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€็ฅๆ—ฅใซใคใ„ใฆใงใ™ใŒใ€ ใ‚ขใƒกใƒชใ‚ซ่‹ฑ่ชžใงใฏใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒ
04:16
are referring to taking time off to go away or plan some kind of stay in a different location,
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ไผ‘ๆš‡ใ‚’ๅ–ใฃใฆ ๅˆฅใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซๅ‡บใ‹ใ‘ใŸใ‚Šใ€ไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎๆปžๅœจใ‚’่จˆ็”ปใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่จ€ๅŠใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€
04:23
they usually say that they're going on vacation. Um, but in British English and here in South
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้€šๅธธใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€Œๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€ ไผ‘ๆš‡ใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใงใ‚‚ใ‚คใ‚ฎใƒชใ‚น่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚„ใ“ใ“
04:30
Africa as well, we would also refer to that as a holiday. I'm going on holiday, so I'm
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ๅ—ใ‚ขใƒ•ใƒชใ‚ซใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚’ไผ‘ๆ—ฅใจๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ™ . ็งใฏไผ‘ๆš‡ใซ่กŒใใฎใงใ€
04:35
going away on holiday next week. And that just doesn't refer to one day as it would
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ๆฅ้€ฑไผ‘ๆš‡ใงๅ‡บใ‹ใ‘ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ—ฅใ‚’ๆŒ‡ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
04:41
in, you know, we spoke about that as well. Uh, holidays usually like Christmas time or,
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ใ€‚ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚‚่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ไผ‘ๆ—ฅใฏ้€šๅธธใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใ‚นใƒžใ‚นใฎๆ™‚ๆœŸใ‚„ใ€
04:47
um, this particular national day that people celebrate. But for us, it's actually the same
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ใˆใˆใจใ€ไบบใ€…ใŒ็ฅใ†ใ“ใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎๅ›ฝๆฐ‘ใฎๆ—ฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ . ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใซใจใฃใฆใฏใ€
04:53
meaning as a vacation. Um, and then, you know, we also spoke about trip. So people will say,
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ไผ‘ๆš‡ใจๅŒใ˜ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ ๆ—…่กŒใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚‚่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ไบบใ€…ใฏใ€
04:58
oh, am I going on a vacation or am I going on a trip? I think in general, they have a
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€็งใฏไผ‘ๆš‡ใซ่กŒใใฎใ‹ใ€ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚ ๆ—…่กŒใซ่กŒใใฎใ‹ใจ่จ€ใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†. ไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใซใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏ้žๅธธใซไผผใŸๆ„ๅ‘ณใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
05:03
very similar meaning. It all means you're going on a journey from one place to another.
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใ™ในใฆใ€ ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅˆฅใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใธใฎๆ—…ใซๅ‡บใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
05:08
But a trip can also be, usually it's, it's a short, um, well, not always, but we can,
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๆ—…่กŒใฏใพใŸใ€้€šๅธธใฏ ็Ÿญใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใŒใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ๅธธใซใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
05:15
we usually use it in that way. Like I'm, I'm going on a trip to my grandmother's house,
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้€šๅธธใฏใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซไฝฟ็”จใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€็งใฏ ็ฅ–ๆฏใฎๅฎถใซๆ—…่กŒใซ่กŒใใ‹ใ€
05:20
or my son is going on a trip to, with his, with his school, uh, to the local museum.
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ๆฏๅญใŒๆ—…่กŒใซ่กŒใไบˆๅฎšใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใฎๅญฆๆ กใจไธ€็ท’ใซใ€ๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎๅš็‰ฉ้คจใซ่กŒใใพใ™ใ€‚
05:25
So it's, it's a short period and you're usually going and then coming back, um, soon, but
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็Ÿญใ„ๆœŸ้–“ใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€้€šๅธธใฏ ่กŒใฃใฆใ™ใใซๆˆปใฃใฆใใพใ™ใŒใ€
05:29
yeah. Cool. You know, that word trip reminds me
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ„ใ„ใญใ€‚ ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใƒˆใƒชใƒƒใƒ—ใจใ„ใ†่จ€่‘‰ใฏใ€
05:31
of, uh, of a classic Beatles song called Day Tripper. Yeah. Day Tripper. And, (Yeah) the,
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ใƒ“ใƒผใƒˆใƒซใ‚บใฎใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚ทใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚ฝใƒณใ‚ฐใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใƒ‡ใ‚ค ใƒˆใƒชใƒƒใƒ‘ใƒผใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ•ใ›ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๆ—ฅๅธฐใ‚Šๅฎขใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€(ใˆใˆ) ใ‚ถใ€
05:39
the, the song talks about a girl who is a day tripper. I, I don't know exactly what
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05:43
that means. Maybe, uh, she takes short trips, right? Like across town. Yeah. So it's a great
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ใ€‚ ใŸใถใ‚“ใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ๅฝผๅฅณใฏ็Ÿญใ„ๆ—…่กŒใ‚’ใ—ใพใ™ใ‚ˆ ใญ๏ผŸ ่ก—ไธญใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„
05:48
song. (Could be, yeah.) Yeah. It's one of the first ones I learned on guitar, actually.
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ๆ›ฒใงใ™ใ€‚ ๏ผˆใใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚๏ผ‰ใˆใˆใ€‚ ๅฎŸ้š›ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒใ‚ฎใ‚ฟใƒผใงๅญฆใ‚“ใ ๆœ€ๅˆใฎๆ›ฒใฎ 1 ใคใงใ™ใ€‚
05:51
Oh, wow. Yeah. I, I would love to hear you play that. That would be awesome.
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ™ใ”ใ„ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆผ”ๅฅใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ๆฅฝใ—ใฟใซใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
05:54
Yeah. Maybe I can grab the guitar, you know, in a future episode just to play that main
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅฐ†ๆฅใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใงใ€ใใฎใƒกใ‚คใƒณใฎ๏ผˆใˆใˆ๏ผ‰ใƒชใƒ•ใ‚’ๆผ”ๅฅใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ ใ‘ใซใ€ใ‚ฎใ‚ฟใƒผใ‚’ใคใ‹ใ‚€ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“
06:00
(Yeah.) riff. It's really cool. You know, it's really cool. So, today, um, we're gonna
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ‚ฏใƒผใƒซใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ•ใฆใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏใ€
06:06
be talking all about trips and traveling and memorable traveling experiences. Uh, well,
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ๆ—…่กŒใ€ๆ—…่กŒ ใ€ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใซๆฎ‹ใ‚‹ๆ—…่กŒไฝ“้จ“ใซใคใ„ใฆใŠ่ฉฑใ—ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€
06:18
we are talking about trips and traveling. I have to admit, Casse, one of my, uh, not
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็งใŸใกใฏๆ—…่กŒใ‚„ๆ—…่กŒใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ่ชใ‚ใ–ใ‚‹ใ‚’ๅพ—ใชใ„ใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€็งใฎๅพŒๆ‚”ใฎ 1 ใคใฏใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ๅพŒๆ‚”ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
06:36
regrets, but maybe one of the things that kind of, you know, bums me out sometimes is
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06:41
the fact that I have never had the opportunity to go abroad. At least not yet. You know,
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ใ€‚ ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚ใพใ ใงใ™ใ€‚
06:46
it's one of those things that I still have to tick off my bucket list, you know, but
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ใพใ ใ‚„ใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใ“ใจใฎ ใƒชใ‚นใƒˆใซใƒใ‚งใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ๅ…ฅใ‚ŒใฆใŠใ‹ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰
06:52
I am confident, I am hopeful that some, you know, I will be able to realize this dream
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ใชใ„ใ“ใจใฎ 1 ใคใงใ™ใŒใ€
06:56
of going abroad soon. Definitely. Like, I mean, if we think about
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ๆตทๅค–ใซ่กŒใใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใฎๅคขใ‚’ใ™ใใซๅฎŸ็พใงใใ‚‹ใจ็ขบไฟกใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็ตถๅฏพใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใŸใกใŒใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆ่€ƒใˆใฆใฟใ‚‹ใจ
07:00
it like as, I, I cannot tell you how amazing it actually is that you say this, and I mean,
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ใ€็งใฏใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฉใ‚Œใปใฉ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ‹ใ‚’ใ‚ใชใŸ
07:07
I tell you this all the time, but you, your English is impeccable and you've never left
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ใซไผใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใงใใพใ›ใ‚“.ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใฏใ„ใคใ‚‚ใ‚ใชใŸใซใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™. ใƒ–ใƒฉใ‚ธใƒซใ‚’ ้›ขใ‚ŒใŸใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
07:13
Brazil. So I think this is is not something to feel bummed out about. Well, you know,
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ใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใฏใŒใฃใ‹ใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใงใฏใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€
07:21
like if you look at it from that perspective, it's something to feel (Yeah.) proud of, right?
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ใใ†ใ„ใ†่ฆ–็‚นใง่ฆ‹ใ‚Œใฐใ€ ๏ผˆใ†ใ‚“๏ผ‰่ช‡ใ‚Šใซๆ€ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
07:25
Thanks for that. I really appreciate that, by the way. Uh, what does it mean to be bummed
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ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๆ„Ÿ่ฌใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใซใ†ใ‚“ใ–ใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใฏใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹
07:28
out about something? Just to feel sad and, you know, you're feeling
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? ใŸใ ๆ‚ฒใ—ใใฆใ€
07:33
a little bit depressed about it. I wouldn't even say a little bit. Sometimes if you're
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ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจ่ฝใก่พผใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚ ็งใฏ ๅฐ‘ใ—ใ‚‚่จ€ใ‚ใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ
07:37
really bummed out, you could be very depressed about, you know, that the state of, of the
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ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ†ใ‚“ใ–ใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใฎ็Šถๆณใฎ็Šถๆ…‹ใซใคใ„ใฆ้žๅธธใซ่ฝใก่พผใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒ
07:43
situation, but. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I,
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. ใˆใˆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใฏ
07:45
I view that as an accomplishment that I have in my life, for sure. Yeah. Being able to
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’็งใฎไบบ็”Ÿใง้”ๆˆใ—ใŸๆˆๆžœใจ่ฆ‹ใชใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๆฏๅ›ฝใจๅŒใ˜
07:48
learn English as well as I did here in my home country. For me, uh, I think, uh, a big
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ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆในใ‚‹ใ“ใจ ใ€‚ ็งใซใจใฃใฆใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใฏใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€
07:52
deal, a big, uh, part of that was talking to people as much as possible. Yeah. So sometimes
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ใใฎๅคงใใชใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ใใฎไธ€้ƒจใฏใ€ ๅฏ่ƒฝใช้™ใ‚Šไบบใ€…ใจ่ฉฑใ™ใ“ใจใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๆ™‚ใ€…ใ€ๆ•…้ƒทใฎ
07:58
I would meet some native speakers on the street in my hometown. Sometimes I had some friends
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่ทฏไธŠใงใƒใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใ‚นใƒ”ใƒผใ‚ซใƒผใซไผšใ†ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ๆ™‚ใ€…ใ€
08:02
also who spoke English, so, you know, we practice together. But the, the crazy thing is that
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่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’่ฉฑใ™ๅ‹้”ใ‚‚ใ„ใŸใฎใงใ€ไธ€็ท’ใซ็ทด็ฟ’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚ฏใƒฌใ‚คใ‚ธใƒผใชใ“ใจใซใ€
08:07
nowadays you don't even have to know people necessarily that speak English to practice
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ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใงใฏใ€
08:11
or speak, like, you know, personally. Right? Uh, let's say the app, for example, yeah,
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ๅ€‹ไบบ็š„ใซ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’็ทด็ฟ’ใ—ใŸใ‚Š่ฉฑใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใ€ๅฟ…ใšใ—ใ‚‚่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’่ฉฑใ™ไบบใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใ•ใˆใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅณ๏ผŸ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€
08:15
the RealLife English app. You can just pop up there and connect with someone, have a
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RealLife English ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ“ใซใƒใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚ขใƒƒใƒ—ใ—ใฆ่ชฐใ‹ใจใคใชใŒใ‚Šใ€
08:20
short 4 minute conversation. And, you know, it's one of those things that wow. I mean,
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4ๅˆ†้–“ใฎ็Ÿญใ„ไผš่ฉฑใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™. ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ้ฉšใในใใ“ใจใฎ1ใคใงใ™ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€
08:25
we have so many resources nowadays. Right. By the way, uh, for the listeners here, if
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใ€็งใŸใกใฏ้žๅธธใซๅคšใใฎใƒชใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚นใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅณใ€‚ ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ€ใƒชใ‚นใƒŠใƒผใฎ็š†ใ•ใ‚“ใ€
08:30
you haven't tried the app yet, give it a try. I mean, you know, I wish I had that, you know,
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ใพใ ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใ‚’่ฉฆใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€่ฉฆใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ไฝ•ๅนดใ‚‚ๅ‰ใซ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸใจใใซใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ„ใ„ใฎใซใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
08:34
when I was learning English, uh, many, many years ago. So it's free. Just, click the link
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ใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰็„กๆ–™ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใŠๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒช ใ‚นใƒˆใ‚ขใฎ
08:39
of the description or RealLife English on your favorite app store, search for it and,
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่ชฌๆ˜ŽใพใŸใฏ RealLife English ใฎใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ‚’ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ—ใฆ ๆคœ็ดขใ—ใ€
08:43
uh, give it a try. Yeah. Exactly. Plus, I like that you mentioned like
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่ฉฆใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚ ใ•ใ‚‰ใซใ€4 ๅˆ†้–“ใฎ็ฐกๅ˜ใช้›ป่ฉฑใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใŠใฃใ—ใ‚ƒใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใŒๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ
08:47
a quick, you know, quick 4 minute call. You don't, you won't even have time to blush in
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ใ€‚ 4ๅˆ† ใง่ตค้ขใ™ใ‚‹ๆ™‚้–“ใ™ใ‚‰ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
08:52
4 minutes. You'll just speak to the stranger. No embarrassment. Just, you know, quick short
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ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ่ฆ‹็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใฌไบบใจ่ฉฑใ™ใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚ ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใใชใ„ใ€‚ ใŸใ ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€็Ÿญใ„็Ÿญใ„
08:57
call. And you'll already have that, you know, experience and the fun side of meeting someone
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้›ป่ฉฑใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ™ใงใซใใ‚Œใ‚’ ็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใ€ๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ไบบใซไผšใ†ใ“ใจใฎๆฅฝใ—ใ„ๅด้ขใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
09:02
new. So No need to blush (What do you have to lose?)
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. ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใ•ใง้ก”ใ‚’ ่ตคใ‚‰ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ (ๅคฑใ†ใ‚‚ใฎใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹?)
09:05
with the embarrassment. That's cool. That's nice. So Casse, I wanted to share with you,
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ใ€‚ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ณใ„ใ„ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ ใ™ใฐใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ€‚ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€
09:08
uh, my memorable travel experience. One of them. Yeah. It was a trip that I took locally
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09:14
here in Brazil. And I think it's a, it's a good example of when expectations don't meet
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09:22
reality. You know. It was the first time I visited Florianopolis, right, here in Brazil,
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09:28
it's in the south. And, um, you know, we, Brazilians, we tend to call it Floripa. Yeah,
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09:34
you've been there too. Yeah. At our last summit. So, you know, the, the, the place, the island,
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09:38
it's a beautiful place. Yeah, it's beautiful.
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09:40
It's an amazing place, beautiful beaches. But the first time I went there actually wasn't
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09:45
so good. And let me explain why. Right? That was, I think, 2018. And, uh, what happened
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09:51
was I got really disappointed with the hotel where I stayed at, you know, because when
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09:57
I was booking the hotel, uh, you know, before going there, the pictures looked amazing,
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10:04
you know, they looked incredible. Like, oh, this is such a nice place to stay in. But
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10:09
when we got there, and you know, it was me and my family, right? I took my wife and my
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10:14
son who was I think seven years old at the time. My daughter wasn't born yet. It was
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10:20
our first time ever, uh, in Floripa, right? And we got really disappointed with the hotel
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10:25
because, you know, it's one of those hotels that, um, I don't know, it seems like time
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10:30
hasn't been kind to the place, you know? So, it wasn't at all, like the pictures showed
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10:38
on the website, and it was a big place. It was a huge space, yeah, even external area.
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10:44
But, uh, there were many deactivated facilities that hadn't been used for a long time. So,
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10:51
you know, it's one of those places where you look around, you go like, okay, I imagine
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10:54
that this place used to be a really good place like 30-40 years ago. But I don't know, maybe
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11:00
business wasn't going well over the years, or, um, I don't know what happened, but, you
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11:05
know, it seems like the the place, the hotel has declined over, over time. Yeah. So, you
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11:09
know, that was a little bit of a, a disappointment for us, and, um, even the breakfast, you,
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11:11
I was expecting that nice, (Wow.) what, what do you call it? A nice, um, continental (Continental)
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11:12
breakfast, right, that hotels offer. It was like, you know, even the breakfast was like,
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11:13
okay, yeah. Letdown, Ugh.
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11:14
It was a letdown. And, to make matters even let's say worse, I think on our last day there,
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11:17
there was even a, a mini coral snake, you know, uh, by the entrance. And it was insane.
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11:24
You know, I don't know if it is, if it was poisonous or not, you know, but what I remember
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11:30
is I've seen some guys from the hotel who worked there, you know, trying to capture
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11:33
it with a kind of a, a plastic bottle maybe to call animal services. So I was like, oh,
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11:38
man. I mean, we even have coral snakes here. I mean, that's not shaping to be a good stay
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11:44
here, you know? But yeah. But overall, we enjoyed the, the trip, right? Like visiting
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11:51
the beaches and, you know, uh, visiting some of the island, right? But I think that the
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11:56
hotel was a big bummer for us. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned an interesting, uh, word
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12:02
combination. You said: deactivated facilities. What does that mean?
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12:09
Yeah. A facility is a place, right, where maybe an activity takes place. Yeah. So at
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12:15
that hotel, there were some stages for performances, you know, I imagine that people used to hold
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ใใฎใƒ›ใƒ†ใƒซใซใฏๅ…ฌๆผ”็”จใฎใ‚นใƒ†ใƒผใ‚ธใŒใ„ใใคใ‹ใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ตใƒผใƒˆใชใฉใ‚’ ่กŒใฃใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹
12:20
concerts there, for example. Yeah. But you know, you could see that it was deactivated,
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ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ— ใ€ใใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใ€ใใฎๆ–ฝ่จญใงใฏไฝฟ็”จใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ้žใ‚ขใ‚ฏใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ๅŒ–ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ
12:25
like, you know, it wasn't in use that place, that facility. Yeah. So, um, yeah, a facility
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ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใˆใˆใ€ๆ–ฝ่จญใฏใใ“ใง
12:28
is a space where a certain activity is done there.
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็‰นๅฎšใฎๆดปๅ‹•ใŒ่กŒใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒšใƒผใ‚นใงใ™ ใ€‚
12:29
Yeah. There's another word you used. You, you said like, um, it was declining. Like,
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒไฝฟใฃใŸๅˆฅใฎ่จ€่‘‰ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆธ›ๅฐ‘ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใฎ
12:36
like, so when something is in decline or when it's declining, what does that mean?
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ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒ่กฐ้€€ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใ€ใพใŸใฏ ่กฐ้€€ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹?
12:42
I think it's the opposite of progress, right? So when you progress, you go upwards, right?
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้€ฒๆญฉใฎๅๅฏพใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ้€ฒๆญฉใ™ใ‚‹ใจไธŠใซ่กŒใใ‚“ใ ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
12:46
You are improving, improving, improving, getting better. If you are declining, it's the opposite.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏๆ”นๅ–„ใ€ๆ”นๅ–„ใ€ๆ”นๅ–„ใ€ๆ”นๅ–„ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ๆ–ญใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ใใฎ้€†ใงใ™ใ€‚
12:52
Yeah. You are downgrading. Yeah. You are lowering, yeah, your progress or your, the quality of
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใƒ€ใ‚ฆใƒณใ‚ฐใƒฌใƒผใƒ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€ ใˆใˆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ้€ฒๆญฉใพใŸใฏ
12:59
the service you provide. Yeah. So that's it. So it was an interesting experience. Um, aside
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆไพ›ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ตใƒผใƒ“ใ‚นใฎ่ณชใ‚’ไธ‹ใ’ใฆใ„ใพใ™. ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใ ใ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใจใฆใ‚‚ ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„็ตŒ้จ“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€
13:05
from that, like I said, I mean, we had a good time. We took many pictures and, you know,
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ใใ‚Œใฏๅˆฅใจใ—ใฆใ€็งใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใŸใกใฏๆฅฝใ—ใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใพใ—ใŸ . ็งใŸใกใฏใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใฎๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ๆ’ฎใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€ใใ—ใฆใ€
13:10
I, I got to go back to Floripa other times, you know, after that and, you know, all the
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็งใฏใ€ใใฎๅพŒใ€ไฝ•ๅบฆใ‚‚ใƒ•ใƒญใƒชใƒ‘ใซๆˆปใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ใ™ในใฆใฎ
13:15
experiences were like amazing. Yeah. So I am, I'm, so, I just, I I have questions
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็ตŒ้จ“ใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
13:19
about the coral snake. I'm sorry. I hate snakes. Me too. Yeah.
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ใ‚ตใƒณใ‚ดใƒ˜ใƒ“ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ณชๅ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ็งใฏใƒ˜ใƒ“ใŒๅซŒใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ็งใ‚‚ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
13:23
Snakes are weird. No arms, no legs, just a slithering muscle. Ugh. I'm just (Yeah) not,
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ใƒ˜ใƒ“ใฏๅค‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ่…•ใ‚‚่ถณใ‚‚ใชใ—ใ€ใŸใ ใฎ ใšใ‚‹ใšใ‚‹็ญ‹่‚‰ใ ใ‘ใ€‚ ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใฏใŸใ ๏ผˆใˆใˆ๏ผ‰ใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€
13:30
I'm sorry. It's disgusting. (It is) I love animals, but I just, snakes need to stay away
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ใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ๅซŒใชๆ„Ÿใ˜ใงใ™ใ€‚ ๏ผˆใใ‚Œใฏ๏ผ‰็งใฏ ๅ‹•็‰ฉใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™ใŒใ€ใƒ˜ใƒ“ใฏ็งใ‹ใ‚‰้ ใ–ใ‹ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
13:37
from me. But I have a question. (Uhhuh) How, firstly, how did you react? What was your
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. ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€่ณชๅ•ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ (ใ†ใƒผใ‚“) ใพใšใ€ๅๅฟœใฏใฉใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ‹? ใƒ˜ใƒ“ใซๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅๅฟœใฏใฉใ†ใงใ—ใŸใ‹
13:43
reaction to the snake? I reacted in a very brave way by staying away
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๏ผŸ ็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰้›ขใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆ้žๅธธใซๅ‹‡ๆ•ขใซๅๅฟœใ—ใพใ—ใŸ
13:50
from it. Like, you know, really away from it. Like, you know, guys, you know, there's
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. ใพใ‚‹ใงใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰้›ขใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใปใ‚‰ใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใ€ใปใ‚‰ใ€
13:58
a snake here. Then, you know, two guys who worked at the hotel, they went there and,
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ใ“ใ“ใซใƒ˜ใƒ“ใŒใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ ใƒ›ใƒ†ใƒซใงๅƒใ„ใฆใ„ใŸไบŒไบบใฎ็”ทใŒใใ“ใซ่กŒใฃใฆใ€
14:02
you know, dealt with it, (Yeah.) and then called somebody responsible. Yeah. But yeah,
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ‡ฆ็†ใ—๏ผˆใใ†ใงใ™๏ผ‰ใ€ ่ฒฌไปป่€…ใซ้›ป่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใงใ‚‚ใ€
14:07
no, I kept my distance. Come on. Yeah. I was on vacation. Yeah.
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ใ„ใ‚„ใ„ใ‚„ใ€่ท้›ขใ‚’็ฝฎใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๆฅใฆใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใฏ ไผ‘ๆš‡ไธญใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
14:10
This snake is not gonna ruin our vacation. I paid for this!
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ใ“ใฎใƒ˜ใƒ“ใฏ็งใŸใกใฎไผ‘ๆš‡ใ‚’ๅฐ็„กใ—ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ๆ”ฏๆ‰•ใฃใŸ๏ผ
14:14
No, no, no. Come on. Yeah. But, you also had, uh, an interesting story to share, right,
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ใƒ€ใƒกใƒ€ใƒกใƒ€ใƒกใ€‚ ๆฅใฆใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใพใŸใ€ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„่ฉฑใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ‚ˆ ใญใ€
14:18
Casse, um, kinda related to bandit, I believe, right? (Yes) What's a bandit, by the way?
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ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€็›—่ณŠใซ้–ข้€ฃใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ ? (ใฏใ„) ใจใ“ใ‚ใง็›—่ณŠใฃใฆไฝ•๏ผŸ
14:27
So a bandit is like a criminal or, uh, a law breaker. You can, you might hear it like in
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14:34
old Wist movies, like, you know, the bandits are those bad guys who are, you know, robbing
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14:40
the bank or who are trying to break the law in some way. But it's, it's, my story is not
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ใ€ใพใŸใฏไฝ•ใ‚‰ใ‹ใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใงๆณ•ๅพ‹ใ‚’็ ดใ‚ใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ‚ช่€…ใฎใ“ใจใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ€็งใฎ่ฉฑใฏ
14:47
about someone breaking the law. It's like someone causing trouble. And this is another
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒๆณ•ใ‚’็Šฏใ—ใŸใจใ„ใ†่ฉฑใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ่ชฐใ‹ใŒ่ฟทๆƒ‘ใ‚’ใ‹ใ‘ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ
14:51
way that you can describe, uh, another way you can, word you can use to describe someone
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ชฌๆ˜Žใงใใ‚‹ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ™ใ€ใˆใƒผใจใ€ๅˆฅใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ€
14:56
who likes causing trouble and just mischief and just not following rules. This bandit
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ใƒˆใƒฉใƒ–ใƒซใ‚’ๅผ•ใ่ตทใ“ใ—ใ€ใŸใ ใ„ใŸใšใ‚‰ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใŒๅฅฝใใงใ€ ใƒซใƒผใƒซใซๅพ“ใ‚ใชใ„ไบบใ‚’่ชฌๆ˜Žใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซไฝฟ็”จใงใใ‚‹่จ€่‘‰ใงใ™. ใ“ใฎๅฑฑ่ณŠ
15:02
who. So anyway, in this, in my story, it's quite similar to yours in terms of it being
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ใฉใ‚‚ใ€‚ ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€็งใฎ่ฉฑใงใฏใ€ๅ‹•็‰ฉใซ้–ข้€ฃใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ† ็‚นใงใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่ฉฑใจ้žๅธธใซไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™
15:07
relating to animals. All right. So since I was a kid, my family loved, they're really
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. ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅญไพ›ใฎ้ ƒใ‹ใ‚‰ ๅฎถๆ—ใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ€
15:14
big on like camping and outdoor stays. So we tend to camp in the mountains or at the
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ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ใ‚„ใ‚ขใ‚ฆใƒˆใƒ‰ใ‚ขใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ ็งใŸใกใฏๅฑฑใ‚„ๆตท่พบใงใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
15:23
beach, and it's sort of a family tradition for us to go camping at a part(icular), at
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ใ€ๅฎถๆ—ใฎไผ็ตฑใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใง ใ€
15:28
least once a year, we go camping at this one spot. It's called Kogel Bay. Kogel Bay - Kogel
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ๅฐ‘ใชใใจใ‚‚ๅนดใซไธ€ๅบฆใฏใ€ใ“ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ใซ่กŒใใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ‚ณใƒผใ‚ฒใƒซๆนพใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ณใƒผใ‚ฒใƒซ ใƒ™ใ‚ค - ใ‚ณใƒผใ‚ฒใƒซใฏ
15:36
is a Africans word, and it means like a ball, like a metal ball, like a, you know, the ones
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ใ‚ขใƒ•ใƒชใ‚ซไบบใฎ่จ€่‘‰ใงใ€ใƒœใƒผใƒซใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ€ ้‡‘ๅฑž่ฃฝใฎใƒœใƒผใƒซใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ€
15:42
you throw in shot-put or, anyway, so, Kogel Bay is a beautiful place. It's stunning. It's
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็ ฒไธธๆŠ•ใ’ใงๆŠ•ใ’ใ‚‹ใƒœใƒผใƒซใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใ‚ณใƒผใ‚ฒใƒซ ใƒ™ใ‚คใฏ็พŽใ—ใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
15:49
like you have the beach on the one side and you have this beautiful mountainous area on
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็‰‡ๅดใซใƒ“ใƒผใƒใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ๅๅฏพๅดใซ ใ“ใฎ็พŽใ—ใ„ๅฑฑๅฒณๅœฐๅธฏใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใง
15:53
the other side, and it's really picturesque. It's stunning. And, you know, it's the kind
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ใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็ตตใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™. ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
16:01
of place that, like, if I describe it to you, you're thinking, oh, I'm gonna have the most
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็งใŒใ‚ใชใŸใซใใ‚Œใ‚’่ชฌๆ˜Žใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™
16:06
peaceful, tranquil, serene, like getaway . If I go there, I'm just gonna be able to relax
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ใ€‚ ใใ“ใซ่กŒใ‘ใฐใ€
16:14
and forget about the troubles in the city. And that was the mindset that we had at the
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้ƒฝไผšใฎๅ–งๅ™ชใ‚’ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใฆใƒชใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใฎ็งใŸใกใฎ่€ƒใˆๆ–นใงใ—ใŸ
16:19
time. I remember being quite young and going like, yay, we're getting away from like the
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ใ€‚ ็งใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Š่‹ฅใใฆ ใ€่ก—ใฎๅ–ง้จ’ใ‹ใ‚‰้›ขใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใฎใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™
16:23
hustle and bustle in the city. We're, we're gonna spend some time in nature. And it's
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ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏใ€ ่‡ช็„ถใฎไธญใงใ—ใฐใ‚‰ใ้Žใ”ใ™ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
16:28
so wonderful. And it really is a wonderful place. But I think what we were not expecting
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ใจใฆใ‚‚็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใŸใกใŒไบˆๆƒณใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใฏใ€
16:35
was that nature would come with its own, you know, attack. Like we didn't, it was gonna
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่‡ช็„ถใŒ็‹ฌ่‡ชใฎ ๆ”ปๆ’ƒใ‚’ไผดใ†ใ“ใจใ ใฃใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™. ็งใŸใกใŒใ—ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ
16:43
come with its own drama. So I know I described it before as like, we were getting away from
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ใใ‚Œ่‡ช่บซใฎใƒ‰ใƒฉใƒžใงๆฅใ‚‹ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใงใ—ใŸ. ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ไปฅๅ‰ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ
16:47
the drama in the city, but we didn't realize that there was gonna be drama in nature. And
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้ƒฝไผšใฎใƒ‰ใƒฉใƒžใ‹ใ‚‰้€ƒใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ ่‡ช็„ถ็•Œใซใƒ‰ใƒฉใƒžใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ
16:52
what we found was that even though we had this beautiful scenery, this stunning relaxing
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็งใŸใกใŒ่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใŸใฎใฏใ€็งใŸใกใฎๅ‘จใ‚Šใซใฏ ใ“ใฎ็พŽใ—ใ„ๆ™ฏ่‰ฒใ€ใ“ใฎๆฏใ‚’ๅ‘‘ใ‚€ใปใฉใƒชใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใงใใ‚‹
16:57
space around us, because this is not a resort, it's not a a manmade place. It's literally
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็ฉบ้–“ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใซใ‚‚ใ‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‚‰ใšใ€ใ“ใ“ใฏใƒชใ‚พใƒผใƒˆใงใฏใชใใ€ ไบบๅทฅใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ‚‚ใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šใ€
17:03
us camping on the beach with a mountain in the background. And what happens in this space
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ๅฑฑใ‚’่ƒŒๆ™ฏใซใƒ“ใƒผใƒใงใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹็งใŸใกใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใฎ็ฉบ้–“ใง่ตทใ“ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ€
17:08
is that there are a lot of baboons, um, who live in the mountains. There are a lot of,
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ๅฑฑใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใƒ’ใƒ’ใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
17:14
um, I wanna call them like families. I think they're called families of baboons, but they
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ๅฎถๆ—ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๅ‘ผใณใŸใ„ไบบใŒใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใƒ’ใƒ’ใฎๅฎถๆ—ใจ่จ€ใ†ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€
17:20
live all over the mountains, and they basically come down to the campsites to feed. So the,
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ๅฑฑๅฅฅใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใฆใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใฏ ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ๅ ดใซ้คŒใ‚’้ฃŸในใซๆฅใพใ™ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€
17:28
the food that humans leave on the, on the, in the trash cans or, um, the food that, you
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ไบบ้–“ใŒใ‚ดใƒŸ็ฎฑใซๆฎ‹ใ—ใŸ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ€ ใพใŸใฏ
17:29
know, after you have a barbecue, you, you know, throw your leftover, I don't know, people
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ใƒใƒผใƒ™ใ‚ญใƒฅใƒผใ‚’ใ—ใŸๅพŒใ€ๆฎ‹ใฃใŸ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’ ๆจใฆใ‚‹้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใฏใ€ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ ไบบใ€…ใฏ
17:30
throw their, their food in the trash cans. And basically what these baboons do is they,
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้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’ใ‚ดใƒŸ็ฎฑใซๆจใฆใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใƒ’ใƒ’ใฏใ€
17:31
they scratch in the trash cans and they eat that food. But they've, they get, they've
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ใ‚ดใƒŸ็ฎฑใ‚’ๅผ•ใฃๆŽปใ„ใฆ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’้ฃŸในใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€
17:35
gotten so used to humans invading, I don't wanna say invading, but entering their space,
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ไบบ้–“ใŒไพต็•ฅใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซใจใฆใ‚‚ๆ…ฃใ‚Œใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ไพต็•ฅใจใฏ่จ€ใ„ใŸใใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ็ฉบ้–“ใซๅ…ฅใ‚‹ใจใ€
17:41
that they actually kind of like, they literally cross the line of like, going while you're
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ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏๅฅฝใใงใ€ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Š ไธ€็ทšใ‚’่ถŠใˆใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใจไธ€็ท’ใซ่กŒใใพใ™.
17:46
asleep at night, they'll come into your campsite and they'll scratch in your bags. They'll
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ๅคœๅฏใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ๅ ดใซใ‚„ใฃใฆๆฅใฆ ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใƒใƒƒใ‚ฐใ‚’ๅผ•ใฃๆŽปใใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
17:51
open your tent, they'll enter (Wow.) your tent, steal your food, and then run away.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใƒ†ใƒณใƒˆใ‚’้–‹ใ‘ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใƒ†ใƒณใƒˆใซๅ…ฅใ‚Š (ใ†ใ‚ใƒผ) ใ€้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’็›—ใฟใ€ใใ—ใฆ้€ƒใ’ใพใ™ใ€‚
17:56
And that was something we experienced. So we were camping and, you know, just having
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŸใกใŒ็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใŸใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใงใ€ ็งใŸใกใฏใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใฆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใง
18:03
this, you know, we thought we were just having the best time. And when we woke up the next
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ใ€ ๆœ€้ซ˜ใฎๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ็ฟŒๆœ็›ฎใŒ่ฆšใ‚ใŸใจใ
18:08
morning, there was a baboon, literally in the tent stealing toilet paper, chips, like
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ใ€ๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šใƒ†ใƒณใƒˆใฎไธญใซใƒ’ใƒ’ใŒใ„ใฆใ€ใƒใƒƒใ‚ฐใฎไธญใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใจ ๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใƒˆใ‚คใƒฌใƒƒใƒˆใƒšใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใ‚„ใƒใƒƒใƒ—ใ‚’
18:16
anything he could find inside of the bag. And luckily (Wow) this was not a very big
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็›—ใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆๅนธ้‹ใชใ“ใจใซ๏ผˆใ†ใ‚ใƒผ๏ผ‰ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใใ‚Œใปใฉๅคงใใช
18:20
one, so he just ran away. And they're not afraid of humans. They really aren't. And
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ใ‚‚ใฎใงใฏใชใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ€ๅฝผใฏใŸใ ้€ƒใ’ใพใ—ใŸ. ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ ไบบ้–“ใ‚’ๆใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใใ†ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
18:25
for those of you who don't know, baboons are quite ferocious when they want to be. They
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ใ”ๅญ˜ใ˜ใชใ„ๆ–นใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚‰ใฃใ—ใ‚ƒใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใƒ’ใƒ’ใฏ ใชใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใจใใซ้žๅธธใซๅ‡ถๆšดใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
18:31
have long, sharp teeth, they have claws, they have even, I mean, I, I've never seen this
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้•ทใใฆ้‹ญใ„ๆญฏใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€
18:38
happen, but I've heard that they even snatched kids and babies. So maybe this was just something
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็ˆชใ‚‚ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅคšๅˆ†ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ
18:45
we were told so that we stay away from (Wow) them. I, I have no idea. But, um, you know,
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็งใŸใกใŒๅฝผใ‚‰ใซ่ฟ‘ใฅใ‹ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚ŒใŸใ ใ‘ใ ใฃใŸใฎใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚ ็งใฏใ€ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€
18:49
on a, on a lighter note, they, they, they tend to be quite harmless. They just really
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่ปฝใ„ใƒกใƒขใงใฏใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€ ใพใฃใŸใ็„กๅฎณใงใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ
18:55
will steal your foodand scare the living daylight out of you, uh, if you wake up next. So finding
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’็›—ใฟใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆฌกใซ็›ฎใ‚’่ฆšใพใ™ใจใ€็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ—ฅๅ…‰ใ‚’ๆ€–ใŒใ‚‰ใ›ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰
19:02
one, like right there in your tent. So yeah, that was my memorable travel experience.
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19:08
Wow. It is memorable. It might be worth explaining to the listeners what a baboon is, right,
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ใŠใŠใ€‚ ๆ‡ใ‹ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ่ด่ก†ใซใƒ’ใƒ’ใŒไฝ•ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’่ชฌๆ˜Žใ™ใ‚‹ไพกๅ€คใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใญ ใ€
19:14
Casse. It's a primate, right? It's a, a kind of monkey, right?
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ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€‚ ้œŠ้•ท้กžใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ใ‚ตใƒซใฎไธ€็จฎใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
19:16
Exactly. I think, by the way, I have video and like some photos of this particular campsite
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ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚ ใกใชใฟใซใ€็งใฏใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใฆใ€ใƒ’ใƒ’ใŒใ„ใ‚‹ ใ“ใฎ็‰นๅฎšใฎใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ๅ ดใฎๅ†™็œŸใŒๅฅฝใใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
19:22
with baboons in it. Um, maybe I could share with Thiago and he could.
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. ใˆใˆใจใ€ใŸใถใ‚“็งใฏใƒใ‚ขใ‚ดใจๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ€ ๅฝผใฏใใ†ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ—ใŸ.
19:26
Oh, that's cool. Yeah. That's great. At first glance, it looks like a case of man
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ใใ‚Šใ‚ƒใ€็ด ๆ•ตใญใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ ไธ€่ฆ‹ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใใ‚Œใฏไบบ้–“ๅฏพ้‡Ž็”Ÿใฎใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚นใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™
19:31
versus wild, all along the Cape Peninsula where National Park meets residential areas,
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. ๅ›ฝ็ซ‹ๅ…ฌๅœ’ใจไฝๅฎ…ๅœฐใŒๅ‡บไผšใ†ใ‚ฑใƒผใƒ—ๅŠๅณถๅ…จไฝ“ใงใ€
19:37
baboons are a contentious issue. They're so habituated, they're raiding houses almost
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ใƒ’ใƒ’ใฏ็‰ฉ่ญฐใ‚’้†ธใ™ๅ•้กŒใงใ™. ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ้žๅธธใซ ๆ…ฃใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ใปใผ
19:42
every day at certain times of the year. While fascinating to watch in the wild and troublesome
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ๆฏŽๆ—ฅใ€็‰นๅฎšใฎๆ™‚ๆœŸใซๅฎถใ‚’่ฅฒใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ้‡Žๅค–ใง่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ้ญ…ๅŠ›็š„ใงใ€
19:48
on the road, having a troupe go through your kitchen is another matter, and alpha males
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็งปๅ‹•ไธญใฏ้ขๅ€’ใงใ™ใŒใ€ๅŠ‡ๅ›ฃใŒ ใ‚ญใƒƒใƒใƒณใ‚’้€šใ‚ŠๆŠœใ‘ใ‚‹ใฎใฏๅˆฅใฎๅ•้กŒใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ขใƒซใƒ•ใ‚กใ‚ชใ‚นใฏ
19:54
can be terrifying. Oh, these baboons!
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ๆใ‚ใ—ใ„ๅ ดๅˆใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™. ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใƒ’ใƒ’๏ผ
19:55
Look at that. Yeah. I mean, I, I think it, it looks scary, you know, like, I imagine
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ใ‚ใ‚Œ่ฆ‹ใฆใ‚ˆใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใฏใ€ ใใ‚Œใฏๆ€–ใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฆ‹ใˆใ‚‹ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€
19:56
if I am the owner of the house and, uh, you know, a group of baboons, just, you know,
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็งใŒๅฎถใฎๆ‰€ๆœ‰่€…ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆƒณๅƒใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
19:58
walk in, I don't, I, I don't know what I would do, you know, probably just like, you know,
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็งใฏใ€็งใŒไฝ•ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€
20:03
with the coral snake thing, I would just, you know, keep my distance, call some, shout
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ใ‚ตใƒณใ‚ดใƒ˜ใƒ“ใฎใ“ใจใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€็งใฏใŸใ ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ ่ท้›ขใ‚’ไฟใกใ€่ชฐใ‹ใซ้›ป่ฉฑใ—ใ€
20:07
at somebody from distance, you know, like, please help.
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้ ใใ‹ใ‚‰่ชฐใ‹ใซๅซใถใ ใ‚ใ†. ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ ๅŠฉใ‘ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
20:11
It's the smart thing to do, like let someone else handle it. (Right) Um, yeah. But I think,
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ไป–ใฎไบบใซไปปใ›ใ‚‹ใฎใŒ่ณขๆ˜Žใงใ™ใ€‚ ๏ผˆๅณ๏ผ‰ใˆใˆใจใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—
20:16
like, as I was saying, um, like, I don't think that they, their intention is to harm humans.
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ใ€็งใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎๆ„ๅ›ณใฏไบบ้–“ใซๅฎณใ‚’ๅŠใผใ™ใ“ใจใงใฏใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
20:22
I think one of the problems is that, you know, when we were camping, we were entering a natural
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ๅ•้กŒใฎ 1 ใคใฏใ€ ็งใŸใกใŒใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใซ่‡ช็„ถ็ฉบ้–“ใซๅ…ฅใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
20:30
space. So we were, humans have sort of infiltrated or entered into this space that belongs technically
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ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ไบบ้–“ใฏใ€ ๆŠ€่ก“็š„ใซ
20:38
in the natural sense to the animals, into, you know, into the baboons in this case. But
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่‡ช็„ถใชๆ„ๅ‘ณใงๅ‹•็‰ฉใซๅฑžใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใฎ็ฉบ้–“ใ€ ใ“ใฎๅ ดๅˆใฏใƒ’ใƒ’ใซๆฝœๅ…ฅใพใŸใฏไพตๅ…ฅใ—ใŸใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€
20:46
in the case of like those residents, like now, the, the animals are so comfortable with
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ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅฑ…ไฝ่€…ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ไปŠใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ ๅ‹•็‰ฉใฏไบบ้–“ใซ้žๅธธใซๆ…ฃใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€
20:50
humans that they think that the humans are in, like, they think that they can enter the
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ไบบ้–“ใŒใ„ใ‚‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใ€ไบบ้–“ใฎ็ฉบ้–“ใซใ‚‚ ๅ…ฅใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใจ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใพใ™
20:56
human spaces as well. So I feel like it's just a weird situation right now in both those
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21:02
places in the campsite and in the, the video that we just saw. Um, so yeah. But what do
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ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ๅ ดใฎใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใจใ€ ไปŠ่ฆ‹ใŸใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฎไธกๆ–นใงใ€ไปŠใฏๅฅ‡ๅฆ™ใช็Šถๆณใ ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใพใ™. ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€
21:06
you think, what do you think about like, you know, in your case with the coral snake, like
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใฉใ†ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใฉใ†ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ‚ตใƒณใ‚ดใƒ˜ใƒ“ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€
21:07
that was a hotel. I don't think there should be snakes in the hotels, right?
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ใใ‚Œใฏใƒ›ใƒ†ใƒซใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใƒ›ใƒ†ใƒซใซใƒ˜ใƒ“ใŒใ„ใ‚‹ในใใงใฏใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
21:08
Yeah. I mean, you know, I guess maybe it was a part of the problem with the hotel, right?
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ ใƒ›ใƒ†ใƒซใฎๅ•้กŒใฎไธ€้ƒจใ ใฃใŸใฎใงใฏใชใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€‚
21:09
I mean, that was part of the problem also. Yeah. Like, you know, it was really a place
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ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ใใ‚Œใ‚‚ๅ•้กŒใฎไธ€้ƒจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใปใ‚‰ใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่กฐ้€€ใ—ใŸๅ ดๆ‰€ใ ใฃใŸใฎใซ
21:10
in decline to the point that, you know, even, we saw these kinds of animals there. Yeah.
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ใ€ ใ“ใ†ใ„ใ†็จฎ้กžใฎๅ‹•็‰ฉใŒใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ•ใˆใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
21:11
But, uh, from this video here, I thought it was very interesting, some words that, that
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ“ใ“ใซใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็งใŸใกใŒ่ฆ‹ใŸ ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ่จ€่‘‰ใฏ้žๅธธใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ—ใŸ
21:12
we saw. Before we get into them, you used a very nice word when we, when you were sharing
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ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใŒใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใซๅ…ฅใ‚‹ๅ‰ใซใ€็งใŸใกใŒใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’ ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใจใใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใจใฆใ‚‚็ด ๆ•ตใช่จ€่‘‰ใ‚’ไฝฟใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
21:14
your story, which was, um, picturesque, right? You were describing the, the campsite. It's
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21:20
a beautiful place. It's picturesque. What is picturesque?
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็พŽใ—ใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใ™ใ€‚ ็ตตใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€‚ ็ตตใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ็พŽใ—ใ„ใจใฏ๏ผŸ
21:23
So when something or someone looks pictures, they look beautiful, they're so beautiful
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ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚„่ชฐใ‹ใŒๅ†™็œŸใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใจใใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็พŽใ—ใ่ฆ‹ใˆใพใ™ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใจใฆใ‚‚็พŽใ—ใ„
21:30
that they look almost like, I don't know, they're per, it's the right. Like, they could,
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ใฎใงใ€็งใซใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏๅฝ“ใŸใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆญฃใ—ใ„ใงใ™.
21:35
you could take a photo, like a pictures sunset is like something you want to capture and,
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ๅ†™็œŸใ‚’ๆ’ฎใฃใŸใ‚Šใ€ๅค•ๆ—ฅใ‚’ๆ’ฎใฃใŸใ‚Š ใ€
21:41
and keep forever. You wanna capture that moment or that look, it's so beautiful. It's so stunning.
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ๆฐธไน…ใซไฟๅญ˜ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใŸใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใฎ็žฌ้–“ ใ‚„ใใฎ่กจๆƒ…ใ‚’ๆ‰ใˆใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใจใฆใ‚‚็พŽใ—ใ„ใงใ™. ใจใฆใ‚‚็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™ใ€‚
21:46
Think of it like that. Like when something is picturesque, it's so beautiful that you
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ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่€ƒใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒ ็ตตใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ็พŽใ—ใ„ใจใใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใจใฆใ‚‚็พŽใ—ใ„ใฎใงใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ
21:49
wanna capture it. It's a nice word. It kind of reminds me of
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ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆ’ฎใ‚ŠใŸใ„ใจๆ€ใ†. ใ„ใ„่จ€่‘‰ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใซ็ตถๅฆ™ใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ•ใ›ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™
21:53
exquisite. I don't know why, but it reminds me of exquisite.
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ใ€‚ ็†็”ฑใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€ๆฅตไธŠใฎใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ™ ใ€‚
21:56
Yeah. Yeah. It, it basically means the same thing.
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซๅŒใ˜ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™ ใ€‚
22:01
Yeah. Like something really beautiful. Yeah? Very, very, (Nice.) like unbelievably, yeah,
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ็พŽใ—ใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“๏ผŸ ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ€ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ€๏ผˆใ„ใ„ใญ๏ผ‰ไฟกใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ใปใฉใ€ใˆใˆใ€
22:09
attractive, visually attractive. Cool. Now, from the video we just saw here,
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้ญ…ๅŠ›็š„ใงใ€่ฆ–่ฆš็š„ใซ้ญ…ๅŠ›็š„ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ„ใ„ใญใ€‚ ใ•ใฆใ€ใ“ใ“ใง่ฆ‹ใŸใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€
22:13
yeah, the clip, um, I heard some nice words there. For example, I think they were saying
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ใˆใˆใ€ใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใƒ—ใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ใใ“ใซใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ่‰ฏใ„่จ€่‘‰ใŒ่žใ“ใˆใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ
22:17
how baboons are contentious. Yeah. Uh, if something is contentious, what does that mean?
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ใƒ’ใƒ’ใŒใ„ใ‹ใซไบ‰ใ„ๅฅฝใใ‹ใ‚’่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ ไฝ•ใ‹่ซ–ไบ‰ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹?
22:25
Yeah. So if something is contentious, I think basically in the case of this video, right,
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ไฝ•ใ‹่ซ–ไบ‰ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ€ ๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซใ“ใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€
22:31
it causes a very heated argument. It causes, it's controversial, it causes, so, um, just
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ใใ‚Œใฏ้žๅธธใซๆฟ€ใ—ใ„่ญฐ่ซ–ใ‚’ๅผ•ใ่ตทใ“ใ™ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™. ใใ‚ŒใŒๅŽŸๅ› ใงใ€ ็‰ฉ่ญฐใ‚’้†ธใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€
22:40
to give you guys a little insight into what the rest of the video is and why it's described
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ใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใฎๆฎ‹ใ‚Šใฎ้ƒจๅˆ†ใŒไฝ•ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€ใใ—ใฆใชใœใใ‚ŒใŒ่ซ–ไบ‰ใฎ็š„ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใซใคใ„ใฆๅฐ‘ใ—ๆดžๅฏŸใ‚’ไธŽใˆใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซ
22:46
as contentious is that, as I mentioned now, like humans are literally living in these
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ใ€็งใŒไปŠ่ฟฐในใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ ไบบ้–“ใŒๆ–‡ๅญ—้€šใ‚Šใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎไธญใง็”Ÿใใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใจๅŒใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
22:53
spaces where the animals have been living for a long time. So you could think of it
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ๅ‹•็‰ฉใŸใกใŒ้•ทใ„้–“ๆšฎใ‚‰ใ—ใฆใใŸ็ฉบ้–“ ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Š
22:56
as like, whose fault is it that the animals are entering these homes? Is it the fact that
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ใ€ๅ‹•็‰ฉใŒ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๅฎถใซไพตๅ…ฅใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ่ชฐใฎใ›ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹?
22:57
the, you know, animal, the baboon population has grown? Or is it that the, uh, and they
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ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใƒ’ใƒ’ใฎๅ€‹ไฝ“ๆ•ฐใŒ ๅข—ๅŠ ใ—ใŸใจใ„ใ†ไบ‹ๅฎŸใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹? ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚ใƒผใ€ใใ†ใ‚ใ‚‹ในใใ 
22:58
should be, the animals should be removed, or the humans should leave the space? So that's
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ใ€ๅ‹•็‰ฉใ‚’ๅ–ใ‚Š้™คใในใใ‹ใ€ ใใ‚Œใจใ‚‚ไบบ้–“ใ‚’ใใฎ็ฉบ้–“ใ‹ใ‚‰ๅŽปใ‚‰ใ›ใ‚‹ในใใ‹? ใใ‚ŒใŒ
23:02
the argument in this context. Okay, nice. It's a great word. It sounds very
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ใ“ใฎๆ–‡่„ˆใงใฎ่ญฐ่ซ–ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ„ใ„ใญใ€ใ™ใ”ใ„ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ็ด ๆ™ดใ‚‰ใ—ใ„่จ€่‘‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใจใฆใ‚‚
23:06
advanced. Um, (Yeah.) what about raiding? Uh, they say that baboons raid houses. What
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ๅ…ˆ้€ฒ็š„ใซ่žใ“ใˆใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€๏ผˆใˆใˆใ€‚๏ผ‰่ฅฒๆ’ƒใฏใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใˆใˆใจใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใƒ’ใƒ’ใŒๅฎถใ‚’่ฅฒใ†ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
23:13
does it mean to raid? If you raid, or if something, or someone raids
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่ฅฒใ†ใจใฏใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ฅฒๆ’ƒใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆใ€ใพใŸใฏไฝ•ใ‹ใ€ใพใŸใฏ่ชฐใ‹ใŒๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’่ฅฒๆ’ƒใ—ใŸๅ ดๅˆ
23:17
a place, they attack that place suddenly. And you can think of a police raid. I know
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ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’็ช็„ถๆ”ปๆ’ƒใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€่ญฆๅฏŸใฎ่ฅฒๆ’ƒใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
23:22
last week we spoke about the, the police bust, um, and in this case, a raid would be quite
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ๅ…ˆ้€ฑใ€่ญฆๅฏŸใฎ้€ฎๆ•ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ—ใŸใŒ ใ€ใ“ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€่ฅฒๆ’ƒใฏ้žๅธธใซ
23:29
similar. You're, you're attacking, uh, a particular place, um, to, you know, maybe you want, you're,
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ไผผใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€ใˆใƒผใจใ€็‰นๅฎšใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’ๆ”ปๆ’ƒใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ ใˆใƒผใจใ€ใปใ‚‰ใ€ๅคšๅˆ†ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆœ›ใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใ€
23:36
you're raiding a place in order to find something. In this case, the baboons are raiding it to
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ€ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’่ฅฒๆ’ƒใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹. ใ“ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ใƒ’ใƒ’ใฏ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใใ‚Œใ‚’่ฅฒๆ’ƒใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™
23:40
find food. Um, yeah. Right. You know, uh, I have a, a I don't know,
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ใ€‚ ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅณใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใซใฏใ€ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒใ€
23:44
a unique brain, I think, because, you know, I, I remember dates of movies or names of
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็‹ฌ็‰นใฎ่„ณใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ ๆ˜ ็”ปใฎๆ—ฅไป˜ใ€ใพใŸใฏ
23:49
movies and series and songs, right? Listening to this word now raid reminds me of the first
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ๆ˜ ็”ปใจใ‚ทใƒชใƒผใ‚บใจๆ›ฒใฎๅๅ‰ใ‚’่ฆšใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ไปŠใƒฌใ‚คใƒ‰ใจใ„ใ†่จ€่‘‰ใ‚’่žใใจใ€ใ‚คใƒณใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒปใ‚ธใƒงใƒผใƒณใ‚บใฎๆœ€ๅˆใฎๆ˜ ็”ปใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใพใ™
23:57
Indiana Jones movie, because, you know, I believe it's called Indiana Jones and the
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ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ ใ‚คใƒณใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒปใ‚ธใƒงใƒผใƒณใ‚บใจใƒฌใ‚คใƒ€ใƒผใ‚นใƒปใ‚ชใƒ–ใƒปใ‚ถใƒปใƒญใ‚นใƒˆใƒปใ‚ขใƒผใ‚ฏใจๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™
24:01
Raiders of the Lost Ark, right? The Raiders people who raid, right? The Raiders of the
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ใ‚ˆใญ? ่ฅฒๆ’ƒใ™ใ‚‹ใƒฌใ‚คใƒ€ใƒผใ‚นใฎไบบใ€…ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ
24:07
Lost Ark. And, uh, I also heard troublesome, Casse, yeah. Uh, they were calling the, the
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ๅคฑใ‚ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚ขใƒผใ‚ฏใฎใƒฌใ‚คใƒ€ใƒผใ‚บใ€‚ใใ—ใฆใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ๅŽ„ไป‹ใชใ“ใจใ‚‚่žใใพใ—ใŸใ€ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ปใ€ใˆใˆใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใ€
24:12
baboons, baboons troublesome. What's that? Yeah, in this case trouble, when something
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ใƒ’ใƒ’ใ€ใƒ’ใƒ’ใ‚’ๅŽ„ไป‹่€…ใจๅ‘ผใ‚“ใงใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‚Œใฏไฝ•ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผŸ ใˆใˆใ€ใ“ใฎๅ ดๅˆใฎใƒˆใƒฉใƒ–ใƒซใ€ไฝ•ใ‹
24:19
is troublesome, it means that it causes difficulty or annoyance, or it just causes problems for
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ใŒๅŽ„ไป‹ใชใจใใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใใ‚ŒใŒๅ›ฐ้›ฃ ใพใŸใฏ่ฟทๆƒ‘ใ‚’ๅผ•ใ่ตทใ“ใ™ใ‹ใ€ๅ˜ใซไฝๆฐ‘ใซๅ•้กŒใ‚’ๅผ•ใ่ตทใ“ใ™ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ„ๅ‘ณใ—ใพใ™
24:27
the residents. The baboons are causing problems for the residents. So you can think trouble,
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. ใƒ’ใƒ’ใฏไฝๆฐ‘ใซๅ•้กŒใ‚’ๅผ•ใ่ตทใ“ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใƒˆใƒฉใƒ–ใƒซใ€
24:33
hmm, trouble is a bad thing. Mm. Okay. Troublesome. Um, in this case, we are, we are referring
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ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใƒˆใƒฉใƒ–ใƒซใฏๆ‚ชใ„ใ“ใจใ ใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚“ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ ้ขๅ€’ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ“ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€็งใŸใกใฏใ€
24:41
to someone causing trouble or being, their behavior is, is annoying. Yeah.
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่ชฐใ‹ใŒๅ•้กŒใ‚’ๅผ•ใ่ตทใ“ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ ่กŒๅ‹•ใŒ่ฟทๆƒ‘ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๆŒ‡ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™. ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
24:46
Right. That's cool. Um, well, I mean, the word, yeah, the definition and not (not the
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ๅณใ€‚ ใ‚ซใƒƒใ‚ณใ„ใ„ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ ่จ€่‘‰ใ€ใˆใˆใ€ๅฎš็พฉใงใ‚ใ‚Šใ€๏ผˆ่กŒๅ‹•ใงใฏใชใ„
24:47
action) not a troublesome person, that's not cool yet. But, you know, um, I guess, I guess
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24:48
we could talk a little bit about the takeaways, yeah, from each one of our stories. Because,
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24:52
you know, for me personally, uh, in my case, I think my takeaway with my story in Floripa
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ๅ€‹ไบบ็š„ใซใฏใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ ใƒ•ใƒญใƒชใƒ‘ใจใ‚ตใƒณใ‚ดใฎใƒ˜ใƒ“ใจๆ‚ชใ„ใƒ›ใƒ†ใƒซใงใฎ็งใฎ่ฉฑใงใฎ็งใฎๆŒใกๅธฐใ‚Šใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใฎใงใ€
24:57
and the coral snake and the bad hotel, my takeaway was appearances can be deceiving.
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็งใฎ ๆŒใกๅธฐใ‚Šใฏ่ฆ‹ใŸ็›ฎใŒใ ใพใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
25:03
You know, just like I think, uh, agent Smith says to Neo in the Matrix movies, Mr. Anderson,
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็งใŒๆ€ใ†ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใ‚นใƒŸใ‚นๆœๆŸปๅฎ˜ใฏ ใƒžใƒˆใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚นใฎๆ˜ ็”ปใงใƒใ‚ชใซ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใ‚ขใƒณใƒ€ใƒผใ‚ฝใƒณใ•ใ‚“ใ€
25:10
appearances can be deceiving. Right? Something like that. Uh, because that's exactly what
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ๅค–่ฆ‹ใฏใ ใพใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅณ๏ผŸ ใใ‚“ใชๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใพใ•ใซใใ‚ŒใŒ
25:19
happened, right? I mean, I had one idea or impression of the hotel through the pictures
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่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ‚ˆใญ๏ผŸ ใจใ„ใ†ใ‹ใ€ใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆใฎๅ†™็œŸใงใƒ›ใƒ†ใƒซใฎใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใ‚„ใ‚คใƒกใƒผใ‚ธใฏไธ€้€šใ‚Šใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ
25:24
on the website, but actually seeing it, it wasn't anything like that. That was my takeaway.
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ใŒใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่ฆ‹ใฆใฟใ‚‹ใจใใ‚“ใชใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ใใ‚ŒใŒ็งใฎๆŒใกๅธฐใ‚Šใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
25:30
You know, appearances can be tricky, can be deceiving. Uh, about your story, you know,
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ใ”ๅญ˜็Ÿฅใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ๅค–่ฆ‹ใฏใƒˆใƒชใƒƒใ‚ญใƒผใงใ€ ใ ใพใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ่ฉฑใซใคใ„ใฆใงใ™ใŒใ€
25:35
on the campsite, the baboons, you know, invading your tent and everything. Uh, any takeaways
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ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ๅ ดใงใƒ’ใƒ’ใŒใ‚ใชใŸ ใฎใƒ†ใƒณใƒˆใ‚„ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚†ใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใซไพตๅ…ฅใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€
25:40
from that story? Anything you learned maybe? Yeah. I mean, I think one thing that I think
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ใใฎ่ฉฑใฎ่ฆ็‚นใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹? ไฝ•ใ‹ๅญฆใ‚“ใ ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใŒ้‡่ฆใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒ1ใคใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
25:44
is important, I mean, I think in both of our cases, well, before I, I answer that question,
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ใ€‚ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใŸใกใฎไธกๆ–นใฎ ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚นใงใ€ใใฎ่ณชๅ•ใซ็ญ”ใˆใ‚‹ๅ‰ใซใ€
25:49
what does it mean when something is deceiving? It's, uh, it tricks you, it manipulates you,
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒๆฌบใ‹ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใฏใฉใ†ใ„ใ†ๆ„ๅ‘ณใงใ™ใ‹? ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ใ ใพใ™ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ๆ“ไฝœใ™ใ‚‹ใ€
25:55
or it makes you believe in something that is not real or not true. So if you, if you
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ใพใŸใฏใ‚ใชใŸใซ ็พๅฎŸใงใฏใชใ„ใ€ใพใŸใฏ็œŸๅฎŸใงใฏใชใ„ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ไฟกใ˜ใ•ใ›ใ‚‹. ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ
26:01
believe in something that is not real, or it's not that, you can say that, that thing
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ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ไฟกใ˜ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏใใ‚ŒใŒ็œŸๅฎŸใงใฏ ใชใ„ใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’ใ ใพใ—ใŸใจ่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™
26:07
deceived you. You were deceived. You were tricked. Yeah.
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. ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใ ใพใ•ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ใ ใพใ•ใ‚Œใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
26:10
Yeah. So in this case, like the images that you saw when you initially booked your vacation
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ“ใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ ๆœ€ๅˆใซไผ‘ๆš‡ใ‚’ไบˆ็ด„ใ—ใŸใจใ
26:16
or, or planned your vacation, it was not reality, as you said. Mm-hmm.
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ใ€ใพใŸใฏไผ‘ๆš‡ใ‚’่จˆ็”ปใ—ใŸใจใใซ่ฆ‹ใŸ็”ปๅƒใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซ็พๅฎŸใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใงใ—ใŸ. ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€‚
26:20
Exactly. The pictures deceived me (Yeah) ,you know?
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ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚ ๅ†™็œŸใฏ็งใ‚’ใ ใพใ—ใพใ—ใŸ๏ผˆใˆใˆ๏ผ‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
26:22
Yeah. I, I think, you know, with both of our stories, I think the takeaway for me is that
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ็งใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€็งใŸใกใฎไธกๆ–นใฎ่ฉฑใงใ€
26:30
either researching through, like going online and really deep when you're planning a vacation
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ไผ‘ๆš‡ใ‚„ๆปžๅœจใ‚’่จˆ็”ปใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใใซใ€ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง่ชฟในใŸใ‚Šใ€ๆทฑใๆŽ˜ใ‚Šไธ‹ใ’ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ้‡่ฆใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
26:36
or a stay. In our case, we were both in our, you know, local countries, but we were in
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. ็งใŸใกใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€็งใŸใกใฏไธกๆ–นใจใ‚‚ ๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎๅ›ฝใซใ„ใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€
26:42
a different part of, it's not part of our daily lives. It was different part of the
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ๅˆฅใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใใ‚Œใฏ็งใŸใกใฎ ๆ—ฅๅธธ็”Ÿๆดปใฎไธ€้ƒจใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“. ใใ‚Œใฏ้ƒฝๅธ‚ใฎๅˆฅใฎ้ƒจๅˆ†
26:45
city or a different, you know, city altogether, different state. So yeah. So we were in basically
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ใ€ใคใพใ‚Šๅˆฅใฎ้ƒฝๅธ‚ใ€ ๅˆฅใฎๅทžใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใใ†ใใ†ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใŸใกใฏๅŸบๆœฌ็š„ใซๅˆฅใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ„ใฆ
26:49
a different, we were planning to go to different environments, unfamiliar environments. I think
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ใ€ๅˆฅใฎ ็’ฐๅขƒใ€ใชใ˜ใฟใฎใชใ„็’ฐๅขƒใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใ‚’่จˆ็”ปใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
26:54
that whenever you're doing this, you should definitely research thoroughly. Like understand
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ†ใจใใฏใ€ ๅฟ…ใšๅพนๅบ•็š„ใซ่ชฟๆŸปใ™ใ‚‹ๅฟ…่ฆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
26:59
what it's like there, understand what problems you could face by, you know, reading some
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ใใ“ใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‹ใ‚’็†่งฃใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใง ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ
27:04
reviews online or even better than reviews. And, um, you know, something that someone
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ใƒฌใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใ‚’่ชญใ‚“ใ ใ‚Šใ€ใƒฌใƒ“ใƒฅใƒผใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ๅ„ชใ‚ŒใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’่ชญใ‚“ใ ใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ€็›ด้ขใ™ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใฎใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ•้กŒใ‚’็†่งฃใ™ใ‚‹. ใใ—ใฆใ€ใˆใˆใจใ€
27:10
else writes online would be to actually speak to local people, maybe make a friend, or if
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27:14
you're online, I don't know if you have the opportunity to, it definitely helps to speak
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ใ‚ชใƒณใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใฎๅ ดๅˆใ€ๆฉŸไผšใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒ ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใชใๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ™
27:19
to someone who has an understanding or who's been to that place before and who's had a
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็†่งฃใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ€ใพใŸใฏ ไปฅๅ‰ใซใใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ่กŒใฃใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
27:24
firsthand experience with that place, and ask them questions about it. You know, what
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ใใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใ‚’็›ดๆŽฅ็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ไบบใซ่ฉฑใ—ใ‹ใ‘ใ€ ่ณชๅ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
27:28
can I expect when I go there? Or tell me more about this place. Um, yeah, I think this,
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็งใŒใใ“ใซ่กŒใใจใใ€็งใฏไฝ•ใ‚’ๆœŸๅพ…ใงใใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใพใŸใฏใ€ใ“ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉณใ—ใๆ•™ใˆใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใˆใˆใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€
27:32
this is what I, I, I realized, I think if I had, you know, done that before, if my family
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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ็งใŒใ€็งใŒใ€็งใŒๆฐ—ใฅใ„ใŸใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€ใ‚‚ใ— ็งใŒไปฅๅ‰ใซใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ€็งใฎๅฎถๆ—ใŒ
27:37
had done that before, we would've been mentally prepared for the baboons. And instead of it
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ไปฅๅ‰ใซใใ‚Œใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ€็งใŸใกใฏ ใƒ’ใƒ’ใซๅฏพใ—ใฆ็ฒพ็ฅž็š„ใซๆบ–ๅ‚™ใŒใงใใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‚ใ†ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€
27:41
being like, oh, this is a bad experience, we could have been like, oh yeah, we expected
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏๆ‚ชใ„็ตŒ้จ“ใ ใจใ„ใ†ไปฃใ‚ใ‚Šใซใ€ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ†ใ ใ€
27:47
this, we prepared for this. Um, and in our case it was a, a coral snake and baboons.
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ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ๆœŸๅพ…ใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใซๅ‚™ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใŸใฏใšใงใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€็งใŸใกใฎ ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€ใ‚ตใƒณใ‚ดใƒ˜ใƒ“ใจใƒ’ใƒ’ใงใ—ใŸใ€‚
27:52
But, you know, imagine you were planning to go to a country, you don't know what the what
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ใงใ‚‚ใ€ ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ›ฝใซ่กŒใใ“ใจใ‚’่จˆ็”ปใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆƒณๅƒใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
27:57
people dress like, what the dress code is like in this country. What's, what's a common
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ไบบใ€…ใŒใฉใ‚“ใชๆœ่ฃ…ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€ใ“ใฎๅ›ฝใฎๆœ่ฃ…่ฆๅฎšใŒใฉใฎ ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‹ใฏใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ไบบใ€…ใŒ็€ใ‚‹ไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใช
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way for people to dress? You know, are they more conservative? Are they, you know, free?
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ๆ–นๆณ•ใฏไฝ•ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ ใ‚ˆใ‚Šไฟๅฎˆ็š„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็„กๆ–™ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
28:04
You might be surprised, and this could make you feel shocked and, you know, have a negative
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้ฉšใใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ—ใ€ ใ‚ทใƒงใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ใŸใ‚Šใ€ใƒใ‚ฌใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใช
28:09
experience. But one way, or even the food, you go to a place and people are eating a
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็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใงใ‚‚ใ€ใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซ ่กŒใใจใ€ไบบใ€…ใฏ
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type of meat or something that you think is like totally wacky. Like, woah, this is crazy.
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ใ‚ใ‚‹็จฎใฎ่‚‰ใ‚„ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ ๅฎŒๅ…จใซ้ขจๅค‰ใ‚ใ‚Šใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’้ฃŸในใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚ใƒผใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚ฏใƒฌใ‚คใ‚ธใƒผใงใ™ใ€‚
28:19
I, I kind of imagine that. Um, but I guess my point here is that, you know, when you're
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็งใฏใ€็งใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’ๆƒณๅƒใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ ใ“ใ“ใงใฎ็งใฎใƒใ‚คใƒณใƒˆใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ
28:24
researching and you are, or you in even better, as I said, speaking with someone who has lived
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็ ”็ฉถใ—ใฆใ„ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ†ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ€ ็งใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’็”ŸใใŸไบบใจ่ฉฑใ™ใจใใ€
28:30
that experience, you get to prepare yourself. Not only are you informing yourself, but you're
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚’ๆบ–ๅ‚™ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™. ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใซๆƒ…ๅ ฑใ‚’ๆไพ›ใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงใชใใ€
28:37
really, um, opening yourself up to like, you know, possibilities and understanding cultures
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28:43
and traditions or customs better in that place. Yeah, I agree with you a hundred percent.
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ใใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใฎๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใ‚„ไผ็ตฑใ€็ฟ’ๆ…ฃใ‚’ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚ˆใ็†่งฃใ—ใ€ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใซๅฟƒใ‚’้–‹ใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™. ใˆใˆใ€็งใฏใ‚ใชใŸใซ็™พใƒ‘ใƒผใ‚ปใƒณใƒˆๅŒๆ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
28:48
Uh, the importance of getting to know people from other places in the world, even. Right?
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ใˆใˆใจใ€ไธ–็•Œใฎไป–ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใฎไบบใ€…ใจ็Ÿฅใ‚Šๅˆใ†ใ“ใจใฎ้‡่ฆๆ€งใงใ™ใ‚‰ . ๅณ๏ผŸ
28:53
Uh, the same case with me. I mean, if I had known a local from Floripa back then, probably
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ใ‚ใ€็งใ‚‚ๅŒใ˜ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚นใงใ™ใ€‚ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ ๅฝ“ๆ™‚ใƒ•ใƒญใƒชใƒ‘ใฎๅœฐๅ…ƒใฎไบบใ‚’็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ใŠใใ‚‰ใ
28:59
the person could have warned me like, Hey, you know, don't stay at that place. It's not
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ใใฎไบบใฏ็งใซใ€Œใญใˆใ€ใ‚ใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใจใฉใพใ‚‰ใชใ„ใงใ€ใจ่ญฆๅ‘Šใ—ใŸใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ่‰ฏใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
29:03
a good place. You can stay at that place. Right? So yeah, definitely getting to know
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ใ€‚ ใใฎๅ ดๆ‰€ใซๆปžๅœจใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅณ๏ผŸ ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€้–“้•ใ„ใชใใ€
29:07
as many people as possible from different regions, right? That is really useful. And,
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ใ•ใพใ–ใพใชๅœฐๅŸŸใฎใงใใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ๅคšใใฎไบบใ€…ใจ็Ÿฅใ‚Šๅˆใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ‚ˆ ใญ? ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซไพฟๅˆฉใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆ
29:12
well, speaking of which, right, it just so happens, you can do that nowadays with our
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ใ€ใใ†ใ„ใˆใฐใ€ใŸใพใŸใพใใ† ใชใฃใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใงใฏ RealLife English ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใงใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™
29:17
app, right, with the RealLife English app. Uh, we've also released recently the Premium
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ใ€‚ ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใ€
29:26
version of the RealLife app, where you can, you know, access the episodes with transcripts,
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RealLife ใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใฎใƒ—ใƒฌใƒŸใ‚ขใƒ  ใƒใƒผใ‚ธใƒงใƒณใ‚‚ใƒชใƒชใƒผใ‚นใ—ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ใ“ใฎใƒใƒผใ‚ธใƒงใƒณใงใฏใ€ ใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใƒˆใ‚„ใ‚คใƒณใ‚ฟใƒฉใ‚ฏใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใชใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใƒˆใ‚’ๅซใ‚€ใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใซใ‚ขใ‚ฏใ‚ปใ‚นใงใใ€
29:59
interactive transcripts, and you have unlimited speaking time. Uh, so it's been a game-changer
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่ฉฑใ™ๆ™‚้–“ใฏ็„กๅˆถ้™ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅคšใใฎใƒฆใƒผใ‚ถใƒผใซใจใฃใฆใ‚ฒใƒผใƒ ใƒใ‚งใƒณใ‚ธใƒฃใƒผใงใ—ใŸ
30:14
for many of our users. And we actually have a testimonial here from a Premium user. So
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. ใใ—ใฆใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซ ใ“ใ“ใซใƒ—ใƒฌใƒŸใ‚ขใƒ ใƒฆใƒผใ‚ถใƒผใ‹ใ‚‰ใฎๆŽจ่–ฆ็ŠถใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™. ใใ‚Œใงใ€
30:25
would you like to read that one? Sure. So, Supriya from India says, the RealLife
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ‚Œใ‚’่ชญใฟใŸใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ‚คใƒณใƒ‰ใฎใ‚นใƒ—ใƒชใƒคใฏใ€RealLife
30:30
Premium is one of the best and easiest ways to learn English. I love the new way of learning
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Premium ใฏ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๅญฆใถใŸใ‚ใฎๆœ€่‰ฏใ‹ใคๆœ€ใ‚‚็ฐกๅ˜ใชๆ–นๆณ•ใฎ 1 ใคใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจ่ฟฐในใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใƒ•ใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ทใƒฅใ‚ซใƒผใƒ‰ใ‚’้€šใ—ใฆ่ชžๅฝ™ใ‚’ๅญฆใถๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใŒๅคงๅฅฝใใงใ™
30:36
vocabulary through flashcards. The transcripts help make the podcast listening effortless.
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ใ€‚ ใƒˆใƒฉใƒณใ‚นใ‚ฏใƒชใƒ—ใƒˆใฏใ€ ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใฎใƒชใ‚นใƒ‹ใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚’ๆฅฝใซใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ™.
30:40
And last but not least, improving your speaking skills is just a click away. This app is a
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ๆœ€ๅพŒใซใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใŒใ€ใ‚นใƒ”ใƒผใ‚ญใƒณใ‚ฐ ใ‚นใ‚ญใƒซใฏใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใงๅ‘ไธŠใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ“ใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใฏใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’
30:55
mind blowing and revolutionary way to learn English. Aww yeah.
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ๅญฆใถ็”ปๆœŸ็š„ใง้ฉๆ–ฐ็š„ใชๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใˆใˆใ€‚
31:00
Nice. Thank you very much, Supriya, for the awesome testimonial. And for those of you
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่‰ฏใ„ใ€‚ Supriya ใ•ใ‚“ใ€ใ™ใฐใ‚‰ใ—ใ„่จผ่จ€ใ‚’ใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€
31:13
listening to us here on the app, and you are using the free version, uh, give the Premium
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ใ“ใฎใ‚ขใƒ—ใƒชใง็งใŸใกใฎ่ฉฑใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใ„ใฆใ€ ็„กๆ–™็‰ˆใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใฏใ€ใƒ—ใƒฌใƒŸใ‚ขใƒ ็‰ˆใ‚’่ฉฆใ—ใฆใฟใฆใใ ใ•ใ„
31:21
a try. I'm sure you're gonna like it. And, you're gonna unlock a lot of cool features
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ใ€‚ ใใฃใจๆฐ—ใซๅ…ฅใฃใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‘ใ‚‹ใฏใšใงใ™ใ€‚ ใใ—ใฆใ€ใƒ—ใƒฌใƒŸใ‚ขใƒ ใซ็งป่กŒใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ€ ๅคšใใฎๅ„ชใ‚ŒใŸๆฉŸ่ƒฝใฎใƒญใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’่งฃ้™คใงใใพใ™
31:29
by going Premium. Okay. So now, Casse, it's time for the RealLife Way moment. Yeah. So,
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ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใฃใŸใ€‚ ใ•ใ‚ใ€Casseใ€ RealLife Way ใฎๆ™‚้–“ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใจใ„ใ†ใ‚ใ‘ใง
31:38
you know, today we've been talking about travel experiences. We shared a little bit about,
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ใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏๆ—…่กŒไฝ“้จ“ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ—ใŸ ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใฏใ€็งใŸใกใซ่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใซใคใ„ใฆๅฐ‘ใ—ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ—ใพใ—ใŸ
31:43
you know, some experiences that happened to us. Uh, which component of the RealLife Way
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. ใˆใˆใจใ€ไปŠๆ—ฅใฎไผš่ฉฑใ‚’ใ€RealLife Way ใฎใฉใฎ่ฆ็ด ใซ
31:50
would you connect that conversation we had today to?
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็ตใณไป˜ใ‘ใพใ™ใ‹ ?
31:53
I would say that it's definitely part of living your English. Like don't just learn it, live
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it. So what we did today was we were discussing real events that we experienced, and we were
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able to use our English to do that, to have a really fun, um, engaging conversation and
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่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆใใ‚Œใ‚’่กŒใ„ใ€ ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๆฅฝใ—ใใ€้ญ…ๅŠ›็š„ใชไผš่ฉฑใ‚’ใ—ใ€
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to share our experiences. Right? Yeah. Yeah. That's so true. Yeah. Um, I think
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about it as, you know, we, we are, we are talking about real-life situations also. Yeah.
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Because, you know, it's things that really happened to us. Yeah. And even the, the short
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clip we watched about the baboons in Cape Town, that's something real that is happening
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nowadays. Yeah. I think that's a very recent video. So we are, we are practicing English
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here as it is used in the real world, right, by actually, you know, accessing, uh, real
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32:42
news or real, uh, content in the media and just, you know, we're doing those things or
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32:49
talking about those things in English. Right? Um, I, I think this conversation that we are
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32:54
having today, we can also connect that a little bit with the second component, which is connecting
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32:59
your English to your identity in the sense that we are sharing personal stories here
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today. So your personal stories are usually part of who you are. Yeah. They shape your
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. ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅ€‹ไบบ็š„ใชใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒชใƒผใฏ้€šๅธธใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ชฐใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฎไธ€้ƒจใงใ™. ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฏใ‚ใชใŸใฎ
33:10
life, your experiences, so using your English to talk about things that are relevant to
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you, yeah, this is a another point here that I think we could connect the RealLife way
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33:22
to. And of course, we all know that when we're
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33:24
talking about ourselves or our experiences, it's always easier, isn't it? So yeah, when
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่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใ‚„่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใจใใฏใ€ ใ„ใคใ‚‚่ฉฑใ—ใ‚„ใ™ใ„ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏ่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ‚ˆใญ? ใใ†ใงใ™ใ€็งใŸใกใŒ
33:26
we're talking about ourselves or our experiences, we don't have to strain our brains that much,
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33:30
or it's not that hard to, to think about what we want to say. However, we might not always
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have the best vocabulary. And I guess that's an opportunity to to learn some new vocabulary
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or to, you know, level up, uh, in terms of our, how we describe, you know, these things
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that we do in our, in our lives and in these experiences that we've had. So, yeah, I, I
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think when it comes to living your, your English in this way and sharing stories with others,
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um, you could, I mean, we spoke, I just wanna say this, like we spoke about, um, these stories,
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34:05
like earlier this week we, we, we, you know, we, we discussed some of, um, our ideas for,
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34:11
you know, what we would talk about. But every time you tell the story, you'll remember another
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่ฉฑใ—ๅˆใ„ใพใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ ใ‚นใƒˆใƒผใƒชใƒผใ‚’่ชžใ‚‹ใŸใณใซใ€ๅˆฅใฎ
34:15
little detail or you can add a little more. So it's, you know, when we're using our English
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ๅฐใ•ใช่ฉณ็ดฐใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ™ใ‹ใ€ใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—่ฟฝๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™. ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€็งใŸใกใŒ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ไฝฟใฃใฆ
34:19
to connect with other people and share these experiences, it's, it's, it's such a great
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34:23
way to practice and think of different ways to say things.
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34:27
So I guess we can connect that with the challenge that we have for our listeners today, right,
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34:31
Casse? And the challenge is, find a wild animal in your country, or where you live and share
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Casse? ใใ—ใฆ่ชฒ้กŒใฏใ€ ใ‚ใชใŸใฎๅ›ฝใพใŸใฏใ‚ใชใŸใŒไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใง้‡Ž็”Ÿๅ‹•็‰ฉใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใฆใ€
34:37
with us your encounter with (Yeah.) this animal. No, I'm just kidding. You don't haveto do
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34:43
that. Take a picture. Yeah. With a thumbs up like that. No, no, we are just kidding
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guys. Uh, but, um, I guess the challenge here could be, um, try to use as many adjectives
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34:53
as possible when describing a memorable travel experience you've had. Just to give us some
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35:00
examples here. Yeah. When talking about your trips or your traveling, uh, you can use words
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35:05
such as riveting, for example. Yeah. Something riveting is something really interesting,
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ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ๅฟƒ ๅฅชใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใฏใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ้ข็™ฝใ„ใ€
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really good. So if you had a positive experience in your trip, you can say, oh, it was a riveting
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ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่‰ฏใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๆ—…่กŒใงใƒใ‚ธใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใช็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ใ—ใŸใชใ‚‰ ใ€ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ้ญ…ๅŠ›็š„ใช็ตŒ้จ“ใ ใฃใŸใจ่จ€ใˆใพใ™
35:15
experience. Or even exciting. It was an exciting trip that we had. Uh, what other examples
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ใ€‚ ใพใŸใฏใ•ใ‚‰ใซใ‚จใ‚ญใ‚ตใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใงใ™ใ€‚ ็งใŸใกใŒ่กŒใฃใŸใฎใฏใ‚จใ‚ญใ‚ตใ‚คใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใชๆ—…่กŒใงใ—ใŸใ€‚ ใˆใˆใจใ€
35:21
of adjectives can we use in this context, Casse?
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ใ“ใฎๆ–‡่„ˆใงไป–ใซใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅฝขๅฎน่ฉžใฎไพ‹ใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใงใใพใ™ใ‹ ?
35:25
Yeah. So for example, if you had a bad experience, like, I mean, I wouldn't say that our experiences
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ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๆ‚ชใ„็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ใ—ใŸใจใ—ใฆ ใ‚‚ใ€็งใŸใกใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใŒๆ‚ชใ„ใจใฏ่จ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“ใŒ
35:32
were bad, but they could be considered less than positive.
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ใ€ใƒใ‚ธใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใจใฏ่จ€ใˆใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ .
35:37
Less optimal? Less. Exactly. So you could use adjectives
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ๆœ€้ฉใงใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ‹๏ผŸ ไปฅไธ‹ใ€‚ ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚ ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€
35:43
like mortifying or dreadful. I had a dreadful time, uh, because the baboon stole all of
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ๅฑˆ่พฑ็š„ใพใŸใฏๆใ‚ใ—ใ„ใชใฉใฎๅฝขๅฎน่ฉžใ‚’ไฝฟ็”จใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ใƒ’ใƒ’ใŒ็งใฎ้ฃŸใน็‰ฉใ‚’ใ™ในใฆ็›—ใ‚“ใ ใฎใงใ€็งใฏๆใ‚ใ—ใ„ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’้Žใ”ใ—ใพใ—ใŸ
35:51
my food, and I, I had to go and buy, you know, more food, and, like, it cost me a lot of
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35:56
money. Um, and if something is, is mortifying, it's actually bad in like an embarrassing
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. ใˆใˆใจใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒๆ‚”ใ—ใ„ใฎใชใ‚‰ใ€ ใใ‚ŒใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใ„ใปใฉๆ‚ชใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™
36:04
way. Like, it's so embarrassing that you have a bad experience or it, it actually makes
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. ๆ‚ชใ„็ตŒ้จ“ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใ„ใจใ‹ ใ€ๅฎŸ้š›ใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ•ใ›ใพใ™
36:07
you feel, um, you know. So for example, like if, uh, if you saw the snake, the coral snake,
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ใ€‚ ใŸใจใˆใฐ ใ€ใƒ˜ใƒ“ใ€ใ‚ตใƒณใ‚ดใƒ˜ใƒ“ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ€ใ€Œ
36:16
and you went, Ah, you know, that would be embarrassing. And everyone laughs at you,
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ๆฅใšใ‹ใ—ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚ใ€ ใใ—ใฆใ€่ชฐใ‚‚ใŒใ‚ใชใŸใ‚’็ฌ‘ใฃใฆใ€
36:21
and... I'm kidding. You can scream if you see a snake. But I would scream.
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ใใ—ใฆโ€ฆ ๅ†—่ซ‡ใงใ™ใ€‚ ใƒ˜ใƒ“ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใŸใ‚‰ๅซใถใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€็งใฏๅซใณใพใ™ใ€‚
36:23
You know, I, I think, I think I did. I actually think I (Oh,) did. Yeah.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€็งใฏใ€็งใŒๆ€ใ†ใ€็งใŒใ—ใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ็งใฏๅฎŸ้š›ใซ ็งใŒ๏ผˆใ‚ใ‚ใ€๏ผ‰ใ—ใŸใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚
36:28
No one laughed though. No, I guess everybody was scared as well,
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่ชฐใ‚‚็ฌ‘ใ‚ใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‘ใฉใ€‚ ใ„ใ‚„ใ€ใฟใ‚“ใชใ‚‚ๆ€–ใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚“ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใญใ€
36:33
yes. So, you know. Exactly. It's, it's a legitimate reason to
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ใฏใ„ใ€‚ ใใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ€‚ ใใฎ้€šใ‚Šใ€‚ ๅซใถใฎใฏๆญฃๅฝ“ใช็†็”ฑใ ใจ
36:36
scream, right, I would say, but I mean, if, if you were one of those like guys who feels
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ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใŒใ€ใ‚‚ใ— ใ‚ใชใŸใŒใ€Œ
36:42
like, oh no, I am not afraid of snakes, I'm not gonna scream this is, I can handle the
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ใ„ใ‚„ใ€็งใฏใƒ˜ใƒ“ใ‚’ๆใ‚Œใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ€ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชไบบใฎไธ€ไบบใ ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใ€็งใฏ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ๅซใถใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ ใคใพใ‚Šใ€็งใฏใƒ˜ใƒ“ใ‚’ๆ‰ฑใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™
36:47
snake, then, I mean, maybe you would be mortified, um, in that situation. Yeah. So if, if that's
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ใ€‚ ใ†ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ‚‚ใ—ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ
36:51
your experience, you can use adjectives like those.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฎ็ตŒ้จ“ใชใ‚‰ใ€ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅฝขๅฎน่ฉžใ‚’ไฝฟใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ ใ€‚
36:52
All right guys. So try to use these adjectives in as many as you can when describing, um,
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ๅคงไธˆๅคซใฟใ‚“ใชใ€‚ ใงใ™ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ็ตŒ้จ“ใ—ใŸๆ—…่กŒไฝ“้จ“ใ‚’่ชฌๆ˜Žใ™ใ‚‹ใจใใฏใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๅฝขๅฎน่ฉžใ‚’ใงใใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ๅคšใไฝฟ็”จใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„
36:57
a travel experience that you've had. Maybe you can share your travel experience here
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37:01
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37:05
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37:12
yeah, your crazy, memorable story. And with that said, thank you so much for listening
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37:17
to us or watching us here on YouTube today. And stay tuned for next week's episode. 1,
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2, 3. (Aww) Aww (yeah.) yeah! That was a long one.
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