Small Talk Practice | English Conversations at Work

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
Hey there! I'm Emma from mmmEnglish
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์ด๋ด! ์ €๋Š” mmmEnglish์˜ Emma
00:03
and it is speaking practice time.
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์ด๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์—ฐ์Šต ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:06
You are gonna speak with me in aย type of
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๋งค์ผ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ํ˜•์‹์œผ๋กœ ์ €์™€
00:08
conversation that happens
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๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ
00:10
every single day in English.
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์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:13
Small talk.
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์žก๋‹ด.
00:14
Small talk is an essential social skill
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์žก๋‹ด์€ ํ•„์ˆ˜์ ์ธ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ธฐ์ˆ 
00:17
and an essential professional skill.
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์ด์ž ํ•„์ˆ˜์ ์ธ ์ „๋ฌธ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:20
Being able toย feel comfortable with small talk in a professional
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์ „๋ฌธ์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ์žก๋‹ด์„ ํŽธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š”
00:24
situation is a really powerful tool.
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๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋„๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:27
It's going toย help you to start conversations with people,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋™๋ฃŒ ๋ฐ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ,
00:30
build better relationships with your colleagues
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00:33
andย also your clients
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00:35
and of course, this leads to new opportunities or to promotions
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ธฐํšŒ๋‚˜ ํ”„๋กœ๋ชจ์…˜
00:39
or exciting thingsย for you.
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๋˜๋Š” ํฅ๋ฏธ์ง„์ง„ํ•œ ์ผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:41
Today's lesson is a speaking dialogue so we'll get to practise
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์˜ค๋Š˜์˜ ์ˆ˜์—…์€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋Œ€ํ™”์ด๋ฏ€๋กœ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์Šค๋ชฐํ† ํฌ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
00:44
small talk together.
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.
00:46
Youย and then me
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๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋‚˜
00:48
and then we'll swap, me and then you.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ตํ™˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €์™€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:56
I just want to take a few seconds here to giveย a little shout-out
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ž ์‹œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„
01:00
to the members of Hey Lady! who are watching today.
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์„ ๋‚ด์–ด Hey Lady! ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ.
01:03
Hey ladies! It's great toย see you here.
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์ด๋ด ์•„๊ฐ€์”จ๋“ค! ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ต™๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:06
If you haven't heard yet, Hey Lady! is our
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์•„์ง ๋“ฃ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด Hey Lady! ๋Š”
01:08
online community helping women to succeedย in English.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์„ฑ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋•๋Š” ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:12
We make it easy and safe to meet new speaking partners
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์—ฐ์„ค ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ์‰ฝ๊ณ  ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ณ 
01:16
and give you interestingย topics to talk about together.
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:19
We have an amazing team of expert English coaches
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01:22
who encourage andย support you at every step.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ ๊ท€ํ•˜๋ฅผ ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง€์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์ „๋ฌธ ์˜์–ด ์ฝ”์น˜๋กœ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋œ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ํŒ€์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:26
It's the perfect place to practise because you can make mistakes
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋งŽ์ด
01:29
withoutย feeling judged and make real progress
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์—†์–ด๋„ ํŒ๋‹จ์„ ๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ง„์ •ํ•œ ๋ฐœ์ „
01:33
even if you don't have a lot of time to spare.
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์„ ์ด๋ฃฐ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์žฅ์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:36
As long as yourย English level is intermediate or above
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์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด ์ค‘๊ธ‰ ์ด์ƒ
01:40
then your English is good enough to join the community.
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์ด๋ฉด ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ๊ฐ€์ž…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋งŒํผ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์˜์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:43
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋“ฑ๋กํ•˜๋ฉด 10์ผ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ์ œ๊ณต๋˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฒฝํ—˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
01:48
free for ten days.
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.
01:51
I've put theย link down in the description below.
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์•„๋ž˜ ์„ค๋ช…์— ๋งํฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฑธ์–ด๋‘์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:53
Make sure you check it out and I hope to see you inside.
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๊ผญ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹œ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๋ถ€์—์„œ ๋ต™๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:58
If youย want to get straight to the conversation practice,
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๋Œ€ํ™” ์—ฐ์Šต์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”.
02:01
head that way but before we do that, I want to talkย about.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ „์— ๋จผ์ € ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:05
One of the worst things that you can do in a professional situation
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์ง์—…์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ์•…์˜ ํ–‰๋™ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜
02:10
is be too stiff,
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๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋”ฑ๋”ฑํ•˜๊ณ ,
02:12
tooย formal,
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฒฉ์‹์„ ์ฐจ๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ,
02:14
too serious
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02:15
especially when you're just hanging out
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ํŠนํžˆ
02:18
in the office with colleagues.
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ๋™๋ฃŒ์™€ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:20
Soย even in a professional context your small talk
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ „๋ฌธ์ ์ธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ๋„ ์Šค๋ชฐ ํ† ํฌ
02:24
should still be light and the tone should beย positive.
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๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ฐ€๋ณ๊ณ  ์–ด์กฐ๋Š” ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:28
Even if you're feeling really stressed or you've got some problems
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์ •๋ง ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๋„
02:32
that are making you feelย bad,
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02:33
small talk is not the place to raise these.
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์žก๋‹ด์€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ธฐํ•  ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:37
Hi! How's your day been?
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์•ˆ๋…•! ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์–ด๋• ๋‚˜์š”?
02:41
Not so good.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:43
I'm feelingย really stressed and overwhelmed.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์••๋„๋‹นํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:47
I just... I don't really know what to do about it.
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๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ... ๋‚œ ์ •๋ง ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ํ•ด์•ผํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
02:51
No, it'sย not a good idea to be so
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
02:54
honest and so open in this context because it really does make
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์ด ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์†”์งํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์ธ
02:58
theย other person feel uncomfortable.
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ํƒœ๋„๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ถˆํŽธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:01
As harsh as it is,
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์•„๋ฌด๋ฆฌ ๊ฑฐ์น ์–ด๋„
03:02
it's true.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:03
Now I'm not saying
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์ด์ œ
03:05
don't raise theseย issues, they're important things to talk about
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง๋ผ๋Š” ๋ง์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ผ
03:09
but this conversation just needs a separate context,
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๋ฟ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”์—๋Š” ๋ณ„๋„์˜ ์ปจํ…์ŠคํŠธ
03:12
it needs to be prefaced with something like:
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๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:17
Hi.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
03:18
I had a couple of things I need to speakย with you about today
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์œผ์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:21
if that's okay?
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.
03:23
When you have some time, can I speak with youย in private?
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋˜์‹ค ๋•Œ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
03:26
So this just helps to set the tone,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์„ค์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๊ณ 
03:29
lets the person know that it's a seriousย topic.
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์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œย ์ฃผ์ œ์ž„์„ ์•Œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:32
But right now let's get back to light, positive small talk.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ฐ๊ณ  ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์žก๋‹ด์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์ž.
03:37
If a colleague asks you:
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๋™๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ:
03:38
How'sย your day been?
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์–ด๋• ๋‚˜์š”?
03:40
Then you need to answer positively and productively
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ด๊ณ  ์ƒ์‚ฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:44
and that is exactly the tone thatย we're going to practise
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03:46
using in this dialogue right now.
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. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ํ†ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:48
So you start by asking me about myย day
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋จผ์ € ๋‚ด ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ผ๊ณผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌป๊ณ 
03:51
and then be ready to respond when I finish.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚˜๋ฉด ๋‹ต์žฅ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ค€๋น„๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:00
Not too bad actually.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋„ ๋‚˜์˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:01
A bit slowerย than usual
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ํ‰์†Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ์•ฝ๊ฐ„
04:03
so I've been able to tick a few things off my to-do list!
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๋Š๋ ค์„œ ํ•  ์ผ ๋ชฉ๋ก์—์„œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ์ฒดํฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:06
What are you working on at the moment?
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ํ˜„์žฌ ์–ด๋–ค ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
04:18
I don't know how you could feel excited about
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ๋ปํ•˜์‹ค์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:21
suchย an important presentation.
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04:23
I'd be a nervous wreck!
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์‹ ๊ฒฝ์ด ๊ณค๋‘์„œ๊ฒ ์–ด!
04:29
Hey, speaking of experience, can I ask your advice?
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์ด๋ด, ๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ๋ถ€ํƒํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
04:36
I'm planning to propose a four-day work week toย management.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ 4์ผ ๊ทผ๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์ œ์•ˆํ•  ๊ณ„ํš์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:40
There are so many benefits but
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๋งŽ์€ ์ด์ ์ด
04:42
I know it will be tough to convince them it's a good idea.
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์„ค๋“ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:45
Do you have any advice for how I can make my case?
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๋‚ด ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
04:59
Definitely.
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ.
05:00
It's important that theyย see the change as a win-win, right?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์œˆ-์œˆ(win-win)์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
05:10
Thanks! I'll see you around.
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๊ฐ์‚ฌ! ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:12
Did you noticeย some new and interesting expressions
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05:15
in that dialogue?
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๊ทธ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ์ƒˆ๋กญ๊ณ  ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
05:16
I've explained them inย a little bit more detail over on the
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์œ„ํ•ด mmmEnglish ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ์—์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:19
mmmEnglish website just for you.
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05:22
So if you'reย interested in exploring some of these new expressions
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ‘œํ˜„ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ํƒ์ƒ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
05:26
the link to mmmEnglish isย down in the description below.
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mmmEnglish์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งํฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋ž˜ ์„ค๋ช…์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:29
But now
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์ œ
05:30
let's switch places.
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์žฅ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”๋ณด์ž.
05:32
So I'll start this time. You respond.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ด๋ฒˆ์— ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‘๋‹ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
Hey, how's your day been so far?
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์ด๋ด, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์–ด๋• ์–ด?
05:54
I've been working on a presentationย for a new client.
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์ €๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ณ ๊ฐ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:57
I'm meeting with them on Friday
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์ €๋Š” ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ์— ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์˜ˆ์ •
05:58
and I'm prettyย excited to share our proposal.
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์ด๋ฉฐ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:10
I guess it comes down to experience.
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๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ์˜์˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
06:19
Sure, how can I help?
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋„์™€๋“œ๋ฆด๊นŒ์š”?
06:42
In my experience, they'llย be looking for real data.
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๋‚ด ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ƒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŒ€๊ณผ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—
06:45
Evidence that helps them to see theย benefits
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๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด์ ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:48
to the team and to the company.
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06:58
Exactly!
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ!
06:59
Hey I've got to get back to workย now but
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์ด์ œ ์ผ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ
07:01
good luck getting it over the line.
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๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋น•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:07
Do you want to listen to me do the whole thingย now?
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‚ด ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์„ธ์š”?
07:09
Hey, how's your day been so far?
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์ด๋ด, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์–ด๋• ์–ด?
07:13
Not too bad actually, a bit slower than usual
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๋‚˜์˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ‰์†Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋Š๋ ค์„œ
07:16
so I've been ableย to tick a few things off my to-do list.
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ํ•  ์ผ ๋ชฉ๋ก์—์„œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ์ฒดํฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:19
What are you working on at the moment?
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ํ˜„์žฌ ์–ด๋–ค ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
07:21
I've been working onย a presentation for a new client.
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์ €๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ณ ๊ฐ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:24
I'm meeting with them on Friday
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์ €๋Š” ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ์— ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์˜ˆ์ •
07:25
and I'm pretty excited to share ourย proposal.
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์ด๋ฉฐ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ œ์•ˆ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:28
I don't know how you could feel excited
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ฐœํ‘œ์— ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํฅ๋ถ„์„ ๋Š๋ผ์…จ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:30
about such an important presentation.
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07:33
I'd be aย nervous wreck!
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์‹ ๊ฒฝ์ด ๊ณค๋‘์„œ๊ฒ ์–ด!
07:35
I guess it comes down to experience.
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๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ์˜์˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
07:38
Hey speaking of experience, can I ask yourย advice?
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๊ฒฝํ—˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ๋ถ€ํƒ๋“œ๋ ค๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
07:42
Sure, how can I help?
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋„์™€๋“œ๋ฆด๊นŒ์š”?
07:44
I'm planning to propose a four-day work week to management.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์—๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ 4์ผ ๊ทผ๋ฌด์ œ๋ฅผ ์ œ์•ˆํ•  ๊ณ„ํš์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:47
There are so many benefits but
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๋งŽ์€ ์ด์ ์ด
07:49
I know it will be tough to convince them it's a good idea.
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์„ค๋“ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:52
Doย you have any advice for how I can make my case?
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์ผ€์ด์Šค๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?
07:57
In my experience, they'll be looking for realย data.
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๋‚ด ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ƒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์‹ค์ œ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŒ€๊ณผ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—
08:01
Evidence that helps them to see the benefits
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๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด์ ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:03
to the team and to the company.
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08:05
Definitely.
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ.
08:06
It's important that they see the change as a win-win, right?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ณ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์œˆ-์œˆ(win-win)์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
08:10
Exactly.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
08:11
Hey I've got to get backย to work now but
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์ด์ œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ผ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ
08:13
good luck getting it over the line.
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๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋น•๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:15
Thanks, I'll see you around!
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—์„œ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
08:18
I hope you enjoyedย this lesson and that you had some fun with
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์ด ๊ฐ•์˜๊ฐ€ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ณ 
08:21
this small talk conversation practice.
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์ด ์žก๋‹ด ๋Œ€ํ™” ์—ฐ์Šต์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ์ด๋ผ๋„ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์œผ์…จ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๊ฐ•์˜
08:24
Ifย you want to practise a little more with some
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์™€ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ๊ฐ•์˜๋กœ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ
08:26
similar lessons to this one,
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์ด ๋‘ ๊ฐ•์˜๋ฅผ
08:28
check outย these two right here.
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ํ™•์ธํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
08:30
I'll see you in there!
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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