How to Alter the Perception of Mental Health Care in Russia | Olga Kitaina | TED

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ²ˆμ—­: sowon Hwang κ²€ν† : Jihyeon J. Kim
00:04
For the past five years,
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μ§€λ‚œ 5λ…„κ°„,
00:05
I've been working as a psychologist in Russia,
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μ €λŠ” λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ—μ„œ μ‹¬λ¦¬ν•™μžλ‘œμ„œ μΌν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:08
a country where mental health is stigmatized
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λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„λŠ” μ •μ‹  건강 뢄야에 λŒ€ν•΄ 낙인을 찍고,
00:11
and people are often afraid to seek professional help.
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μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ μ’…μ’… μ „λ¬Έκ°€μ˜ 도움을 λ°›κΈ°λ₯Ό λ‘λ €μ›Œ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:15
Right now, people in Ukraine are fighting for their lives.
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μ§€κΈˆ ν˜„μž¬, μš°ν¬λ¦¬μ΄λ‚˜ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ λͺ©μˆ¨μ„ κ±Έκ³  μ‹Έμš°κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:19
What is happening is devastating and traumatic,
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ν˜„μž¬ λ°œμƒν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” 일듀은 파괴적이고 트라우마λ₯Ό μœ λ°œν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:22
and everyone, including both Russians and Ukrainians,
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λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μΈκ³Ό μš°ν¬λΌμ΄λ‚˜ μ‚¬λžŒ λͺ¨λ‘λŠ”
00:27
will need mental health support, but on different levels.
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각자의 μƒνƒœμ— λ”°λ₯Έ μ •μ‹  건강에 λŒ€ν•œ 지원이 ν•„μš”ν•  κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:30
No matter where in the world I'll be working from,
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μ–΄λ””μ—μ„œ 일을 ν•˜λ“ 
00:33
I'm committed to helping people.
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μ €λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ„ λ•λŠ” 일에 μ „λ…ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:35
Psychotherapy for me,
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μ‹¬λ¦¬μΉ˜λ£ŒλŠ” 제게
00:37
has and will always be a force of understanding,
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μ§€κΈˆκΉŒμ§€, 그리고 μ•žμœΌλ‘œ μ–Έμ œλ‚˜ 이해와
00:41
change and peace.
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λ³€ν™”, 그리고 평화λ₯Ό μœ„ν•œ 힘이 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:42
And now it is needed more than ever.
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μ΄λŠ” ν˜„μž¬ λ”λ”μš± ν•„μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:45
Unfortunately, there is a lot of resistance to psychotherapy in Russia.
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μ•ˆνƒ€κΉκ²Œλ„, λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ—μ„œλŠ” 심리 μΉ˜λ£Œμ— λŒ€ν•œ 거뢀감이 ν½λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:50
First, for historical reasons.
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첫째, λ°”λ‘œ 역사적인 이유 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:52
During the Soviet Union,
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μ†Œλ ¨μ˜ ν†΅μΉ˜ κΈ°κ°„ λ™μ•ˆ
00:54
psychiatry was often used as a political tool,
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μ •μ‹  μ˜ν•™μ€ μ’…μ’… μ •μΉ˜μ  λ„κ΅¬λ‘œ μ‚¬μš©λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
00:57
and this is just a small part of the state attitudes toward people
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μ΄λŠ” κ΅­κ°€κ°€ ꡭ민에 보인 νƒœλ„μ˜ 일뢀에 λΆˆκ³Όν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:01
that deeply traumatized the society.
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μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ κ΅­κ°€μ˜ νƒœλ„λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ 트라우마λ₯Ό μ•ˆκ²¨μ£Όμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:04
Since then,
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κ·Έ μ΄ν›„λ‘œ
01:05
Russia has seen major reforms in the psychiatric system,
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λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„λŠ” μ •μ‹ μ˜ν•™ 체계에 큰 κ°œν˜μ„ λ³΄μ˜€κ³ 
01:09
and there are a growing number of good specialists in the mental health industry.
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μ •μ‹  건강 사업 λΆ„μ•Όμ—λŠ” λ›°μ–΄λ‚œ 전문가듀이 λ§Žμ•„μ§€κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:13
Yet problems remain.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 아직도 λ¬Έμ œλŠ” λ‚¨μ•„μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:16
As in many countries where mental health has been stigmatized,
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정신건강 뢄야에 λŒ€ν•œ 뢀정적 인식이 μžˆλŠ” λ§Žμ€ κ΅­κ°€λ“€μ²˜λŸΌ
01:20
proper regulations for practicing psychologists
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λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ—λŠ” μ‹¬λ¦¬ν•™μžμ˜ μˆ˜λ ¨μ— λŒ€ν•œ μ μ ˆν•œ λ²•μ•ˆμ€
01:23
have never been developed in Russia.
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μ•„μ§κΉŒμ§€λ„ μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:26
There are no licensing procedures
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λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ—λŠ” μ–΄λ– ν•œ λ©΄ν—ˆ μ ˆμ°¨λ„ μ—†κ³ 
01:29
or any laws protecting clients from incompetence and fraud.
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μ •λ³΄μ˜ λΆ€μ‘±κ³Ό μ‚¬κΈ°λ‘œλΆ€ν„° 고객듀을 λ³΄ν˜Έν•˜λŠ” 법도 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:33
There are a lot of scammers,
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이둜 인해 λ§Žμ€ 사기꾼이 μžˆλŠ”λ°
01:34
people who simply took a three-month course,
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λ‹¨μˆœνžˆ 3κ°œμ›” 과정을 μˆ˜κ°•ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜
01:37
tarot card readers or astrologers
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νƒ€λ‘œ μΉ΄λ“œ μ μˆ κ°€λ‚˜ ν˜Ήμ€ 점성가듀도
01:39
who say they're professional psychologists.
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μžμ‹ μ΄ 전문적인 μ‹¬λ¦¬ν•™μžλΌκ³ 0 μ£Όμž₯ν•˜κ³ λŠ” ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:42
As a result,
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κ·Έ κ²°κ³Ό
01:44
a lot of people don't know how to choose a professional
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λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ
01:47
who fits their profile
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μžμ‹ μ˜ λ¬Έμ œμ— μ ν•©ν•œ μ „λ¬Έκ°€λ₯Ό μ„ νƒν•˜λŠ” 지λ₯Ό λͺ¨λ₯΄κ±°λ‚˜
01:48
or are even victimized by such unprofessional help.
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ν˜Ήμ€ 비전문가적인 λ„μ›€μœΌλ‘œ μ˜ν•΄ ν”Όν•΄λ₯Ό λ°›μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:52
In the absence of regulation and interest by the state,
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μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 상황에 λŒ€ν•΄ κ΅­κ°€μ˜ κ·œμ œμ™€ 관심이 μ—†λŠ” μƒνƒœμ—μ„œ
01:56
I saw an opportunity.
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μ €λŠ” 기회λ₯Ό λ³΄μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:58
With my team, we created a platform
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μ €λ₯Ό ν¬ν•¨ν•œ 우리 νŒ€μ€ ν•œ 가지 ν”Œλž«νΌμ„ λ§Œλ“€μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:01
with an assessment system for psychologists
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μ‹¬λ¦¬ν•™μžλ“€μ„ μœ„ν•œ 평가 μ‹œμŠ€ν…œκ³Ό
02:03
and the means to get people connected to the therapists they need,
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도움을 μš”μ²­ν•˜κ³ ν”ˆ, 그리고 믿을 λ§Œν•œ μ‹¬λ¦¬μΉ˜λ£Œμ‚¬μ—κ²Œ
02:08
therapists they can trust.
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μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 연락할 수 μžˆλŠ” μˆ˜λ‹¨μ„ κ°œλ°œν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:10
Through this assessment system,
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μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 평가 μ‹œμŠ€ν…œμ„ ν†΅ν•΄μ„œ
02:12
we help people overcome the risk of being harmed by professional help
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 전문적인 도움을 톡해 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ ν”Όν•΄μž…μ„ 수 μžˆλŠ” μœ„ν—˜ μš”μΈμ„ κ·Ήλ³΅ν•˜κ³ 
02:17
or falling into despair,
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μ ˆλ§μ— 빠지지 μ•Šλ„λ‘ ν•˜κ³ 
02:19
of giving up hope they will ever feel better.
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그듀이 μ•žμœΌλ‘œ λ‚˜μ•„μ§ˆ κ²ƒμ΄λΌλŠ” 희망을 ν¬κΈ°ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šλ„λ‘ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:23
We have based our assessment on a hypothesis backed up with research,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ—°κ΅¬λ‘œ λ’·λ°›μΉ¨λœ 가섀을 λ°”νƒ•μœΌλ‘œ 평가λ₯Ό ν•˜λŠ”λ°
02:28
saying that there are common factors
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이와 κ΄€λ ¨ν•΄μ„œ, 효과적인 μ‹¬λ¦¬μΉ˜λ£Œμ— κΈ°μ—¬ν•˜λŠ”
02:30
that significantly contribute to psychotherapy effectiveness.
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곡톡 μš”μΈμ΄ μžˆμŒμ„ μ£Όμž₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:34
This includes a variety of ways
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이에 λŒ€ν•΄μ„œ
02:37
in which a therapist and the client
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μΉ˜λ£Œμ‚¬μ™€ 고객 κ°„
02:39
create a special bond of trust and partnership.
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νŠΉλ³„ν•œ 신뒰감과 μœ λŒ€κ°μ„ λ§ΊλŠ” λ‹€μ–‘ν•œ 방법이 곡톡 μš”μΈμ— ν¬ν•¨λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:43
Unfortunately, in most psychotherapy training programs in Russia,
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μ•ˆνƒ€κΉκ²Œλ„, λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„μ˜ λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ˜ 심리 치료 수련 ν”„λ‘œκ·Έλž¨μ—μ„œλŠ”
02:47
not much attention is paid to those common factors.
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이와 같은 곡톡 μš”μΈλ“€μ— λ§Žμ€ 관심을 가지지 μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:52
The bottom line,
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μš”μ»¨λŒ€
02:54
having a good diploma is not enough.
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쒋은 μ‘Έμ—…μž₯을 λ°›λŠ” κ²ƒλ§ŒμœΌλ‘œλŠ” μΆ©λΆ„ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:57
Our psychologists undergo a test and a case study interview,
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우리 νŒ€μ€ μ‹œν—˜κ³Ό 사둀 연ꡬ 면접을 μ§„ν–‰ν•˜λŠ”λ°
03:01
including ethics questions,
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μ—¬κΈ°μ—λŠ” 윀리적 λ¬Έμ œμ— λŒ€ν•œ 질문이 ν¬ν•¨λ˜μ–΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:03
because the client's safety is the priority.
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μ΄λŠ” 우리의 고객의 μ•ˆμ „μ΄ μš°μ„ μ΄κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:06
The sad truth is that only around 15 percent of applicants
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ν•œ 가지 μŠ¬ν”ˆ 사싀은 였직 15% μ •λ„μ˜ μ§€μ›μžλ§Œμ΄
03:11
pass our selective assessment screening.
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우리의 선별 평가λ₯Ό ν†΅κ³Όν•œλ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:14
After this assessment,
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μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 평가 ν›„μ—λŠ”
03:15
it is important to match a client with the right specialist.
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고객과 고객의 νŠΉμ„±μ— μ ν•©ν•œ μ „λ¬Έκ°€λ₯Ό μ—°κ²°μ§“λŠ” 일은 μ€‘μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:19
With our current matching algorithm,
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우리의 고객-μ „λ¬Έκ°€ μ—°κ²° μ•Œκ³ λ¦¬μ¦˜μ„ 톡해
03:21
we've already helped more than 35,000 people
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 35,000λͺ… μ΄μƒμ˜ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ„
03:25
receive safe psychotherapy.
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μ•ˆμ „ν•œ 심리 치료λ₯Ό 받을 수 μžˆλ„λ‘ λ„μ™”μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:28
We also offer pro-bono sessions
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λ˜ν•œ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 무료 νšŒκΈ°μ™€
03:31
and free educational materials
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무료 ꡐ윑 μžλ£Œλ“€μ„
03:32
to support those who can't afford therapy.
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치료λ₯Ό 받을 μ—¬μœ κ°€ μ—†λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ μ œκ³΅ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:36
And I believe the number of people in need of mental health support
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그리고 μ €λŠ” μ •μ‹  건강 κ΄€λ ¨ 지원을 ν•„μš”λ‘œ ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ˜ μˆ˜κ°€
03:41
will increase due to the PTSD,
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PTSD둜 인해
03:44
chronic stress,
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λ§Œμ„±μ μΈ 슀트레슀둜 인해
03:45
trauma of two years of the pandemic
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그리고 2λ…„κ°„μ˜ μ „μ—Όλ³‘μœΌλ‘œ μΈν•œ 트라우마,
03:49
and all the global events we are experiencing.
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λ§ˆμ§€λ§‰μœΌλ‘œ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ κ²ͺλŠ” λͺ¨λ“  ꡭ제적 μ‚¬κ±΄λ“€λ‘œ 인해 증가할 것이라고 λ―ΏμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:52
And this is the beginning
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그리고 μ΄λŠ”
03:54
of a bigger mental health catastrophe we all need to face.
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우리 λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ μ •μ‹  건강 λΆ„μ•Όμ—μ„œ 더 큰 μž¬μ•™μ„ λ§ˆμ£Όν•  κ²ƒμž„μ„ μ˜λ―Έν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:58
We're trying our best,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 늘 μ΅œμ„ μ„ λ‹€ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:00
even though we work in a tough environment
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비둝 ν™˜κ²½μ΄ λ¬΄μ²™μ΄λ‚˜ μ—΄μ•…ν•˜μ§€λ§Œμš”.
04:03
with the strong stigma
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λ˜ν•œ μ •μ‹  건강 뢄야에 λŒ€ν•œ 뢀정적 인식도 있으며
04:04
and the cultural memory of psychiatry as an instrument of oppression.
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μ‹¬λ¦¬μΉ˜λ£Œκ°€ μ–΅μ••μ˜ λ„κ΅¬λ‘œμ„œ μ‚¬μš©λœ 뢀정적인 문화적 기얡도 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:09
Our goal is to minimize the risk of people giving up on therapy
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우리의 λͺ©ν‘œλŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 치료λ₯Ό ν¬κΈ°ν•˜κ²Œ ν•˜λŠ” μœ„ν—˜μš”μΈμ„ μ΅œμ†Œν™”ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:14
because it's dangerous.
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μ™œλƒλ©΄ μœ„ν—˜ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:16
On an individual level,
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개인적 μ°¨μ›μ—μ„œ,
04:18
it means a barrier for well-being, and unfolding potential.
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μ‹¬λ¦¬μΉ˜λ£Œλ₯Ό ν¬κΈ°ν•˜κ²Œ ν•˜λŠ” μœ„ν—˜μš”μΈλ“€μ€ 개인의 κ±΄κ°•ν•œ μ‚Άκ³Ό 잠재λ ₯을 κ°€λ‘œλ§‰λŠ” μž₯λ²½μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:22
For the world,
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세계적 μ°¨μ›μ—μ„œλŠ”
04:23
it means a loss in productivity and economy.
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생산성과 경제적 손싀을 μ˜λ―Έν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:27
Just depression and anxiety disorder
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우울증과 λΆˆμ•ˆ μž₯μ• λŠ”
04:29
cause the global economy an estimated one trillion dollars each year
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세계 κ²½μ œμ—μ„œ 맀년 1μ‘° λ‹¬λŸ¬μ˜
04:34
in lost productivity.
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손싀을 μΌμœΌν‚΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:36
But I believe that the most important costs
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ κ°€μž₯ μ€‘μš”ν•œ λΉ„μš©μ€
04:39
are the decrease in the quality of connections between people.
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μ‚¬λžŒ κ°„ μœ λŒ€μ™€ 연결이 μ•½ν•΄μ‘Œλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:43
The loss of self awareness.
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μ μ ˆν•˜κ²Œ μžμ•„ 인식을 ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•˜κ³ ,
04:46
An increase in hatred and violence.
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μ¦μ˜€μ™€ 폭λ ₯이 μ¦κ°€ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:50
Psychotherapy is not only about one individual finding help
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심리 μΉ˜λ£ŒλŠ” 단지 ν•œ κ°œμΈμ—κ²Œλ§Œ
04:54
for their individual issues.
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κ΅­ν•œλ˜λŠ” 문제λ₯Ό μ°ΎλŠ” 것이 μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:58
When one of us is wounded, all of us share in that wound.
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우리 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜κ°€ μƒμ²˜λ₯Ό μž…μ—ˆμ„ λ•Œ, 우리 λͺ¨λ‘λŠ” κ·Έ μƒμ²˜λ₯Ό κ³΅μœ ν•˜κ²Œ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:03
Psychotherapy is a way to move forward from the burden of the past
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μ‹¬λ¦¬μΉ˜λ£ŒλŠ” 과거의 λΆˆνŽΈν•¨μœΌλ‘œλΆ€ν„° λ‚˜μ•„κ°€λŠ” ν•œ 가지 λ°©λ²•μ΄μž
05:08
and trauma of the present
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ν˜„μž¬μ˜ νŠΈλΌμš°λ§ˆλ‘œλΆ€ν„° λ²—μ–΄λ‚˜λŠ” λ°©λ²•μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:09
by breaking cycles of hurt,
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μƒμ²˜μ˜ λ°œμƒκ³Ό λ°œν˜„ 과정을 λ§‰μŒμœΌλ‘œμ„œ,
05:12
by embracing the path of healing and self-knowledge.
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그리고 μŠ€μŠ€λ‘œμ— λŒ€ν•œ 인식과 치료 방법을 μˆ˜μš©ν•˜λ©΄μ„œμš”.
05:16
Because by knowing ourselves and seeking healing from our pain and trauma,
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ 우리 슀슀둜λ₯Ό μ•Œκ³ , νŠΈλΌμš°λ§ˆμ™€ μƒμ²˜λ‘œλΆ€ν„° μΉ˜λ£Œλ°›κΈ° μœ„ν•΄μ„œ
05:22
we also become better human beings in our interconnected world,
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μƒν˜Έμ—°κ²°λœ μ‚¬νšŒμ—μ„œ 더 λ‚˜μ€ μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ 되고,
05:27
bringing a real hope for peace.
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평화λ₯Ό μœ„ν•œ μ§„μ •ν•œ 희망을 κ°€μ Έμ˜€κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:31
Thank you.
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κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:33
(Applause)
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(λ°•μˆ˜)
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