Nature, Art and Magical Blocks of Flying Concrete | Lonneke Gordijn | TED

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืชืจื’ื•ื: aknv tso ืขืจื™ื›ื”: zeeva livshitz
00:04
When I look at a flower,
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ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืžืชื‘ื•ื ื ืช ื‘ืคืจื—,
00:06
I don't see just a beautiful object to put in a vase.
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ืื™ื ื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ืจืง ืขืฆื ื™ืคื” ืฉืžืงื•ืžื• ื‘ืื’ืจื˜ืœ.
00:10
I see an intelligent organism that is not still.
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ืื ื™ ืจื•ืื” ืื•ืจื’ื ื™ื–ื ืชื‘ื•ื ื™ ืฉืื™ื ื ื• ื“ื•ืžื.
00:14
Perhaps it just opened its petals to discover light for the first time.
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ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื•ื ืคืชื— ื–ื” ืขืชื” ืืช ืขืœื™ ื”ื›ื•ืชืจืช ืฉืœื•
ื•ื’ื™ืœื” ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืืช ื”ืื•ืจ.
00:18
Or maybe it's at the end of its period,
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ื•ืื•ืœื™ ืชื ื–ืžื ื•,
00:21
desperately blossoming to attract a bee and get pollinated.
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ื•ื”ื•ื ืคื•ืจื— ื ื•ืืฉื•ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœืžืฉื•ืš ื“ื‘ื•ืจื” ืฉืชืื‘ื™ืง ืื•ืชื•.
00:25
As humans, we innately respond to the blooming of a flower.
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ื›ื‘ื ื™-ืื“ื, ืื ื• ื—ืฉื™ื ืชื’ื•ื‘ื” ืžื•ืœื“ืช ืœืคืจื™ื—ืชื• ืฉืœ ืคืจื—.
00:30
But how do we design this exact feeling?
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ืื‘ืœ ืื™ืš ื ืขืฆื‘ ื‘ืžื“ื•ื™ืง ืชื—ื•ืฉื” ื–ื•?
00:33
How can we capture this visceral response in people?
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ืื™ืš ืชื•ืคืกื™ื ืืช ื”ืชื’ื•ื‘ื” ื”ื–ืืช ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ื—ืฉื™ื ื‘ืงืจื‘ื™ื™ื?
00:38
I co-founded an artistic practice to tap the mysteries of this world,
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ืื ื™ ืžื™ื™ืกื“ืช-ืฉื•ืชืคื” ืฉืœ ืคืจืงื˜ื™ืงื” ืืžื ื•ืชื™ืช ืฉืžื˜ืจืชื” ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ืจ ืœืžืกืชื•ืจื™ืŸ ืฉืœ ื”ืขื•ืœื,
00:43
not by studying, but by making.
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ืœื ื“ืจืš ืžื—ืงืจ, ืืœื ื‘ื™ืฆื™ืจื”.
00:46
We called our studio "Drift"
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ืœืกื˜ื•ื“ื™ื• ืฉืœื ื• ืงืจืื ื• โ€œื“ืจื™ืคื˜โ€œ,
00:48
and wondered why almost everything that is made by people is static.
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ื•ืจืฆื™ื ื• ืœื“ืขืช ืžื“ื•ืข ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื ื•ืฆืจ ื‘ื™ื“ื™ ืื ืฉื™ื ื”ื•ื ืกื˜ื˜ื™,
00:53
Because nature is never static.
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ืฉื”ืจื™ ื”ื˜ื‘ืข ืœืขื•ืœื ืื™ื ื ื• ืกื˜ื˜ื™.
00:56
Our mission is informed by nature,
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ื”ื˜ื‘ืข ืžื›ืชื™ื‘ ืืช ื”ืฉืœื™ื—ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•,
00:58
and evolution is our process.
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ื•ื”ืื‘ื•ืœื•ืฆื™ื” ื”ื™ื ื”ืชื”ืœื™ืš ืฉืœื ื•.
01:01
That means we try and fail,
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ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืื ื• ืžื ืกื™ื ื•ื ื›ืฉืœื™ื,
01:04
make thousands of iterations before we succeed.
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ื•ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื›ืš ืืœืคื™ ืคืขืžื™ื ืœืคื ื™ ืฉืื ื• ืžืฆืœื™ื—ื™ื.
01:08
In 2006,
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ื‘-2006,
01:10
when the studio was still the two of us,
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ื›ืฉื”ืกื˜ื•ื“ื™ื• ื›ืœืœ ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืจืง ืืช ืฉื ื™ื ื•,
01:12
I had an idea.
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ืขืœื” ื‘ื™ ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ.
01:15
How cool would it be
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ื›ืžื” ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ ื™ื”ื™ื”,
01:17
if suddenly little lights would flow down from the ceiling,
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ืื ืคืชืื•ื ืื•ืจื•ืช ืงื˜ื ื™ื ื™ืชื—ื™ืœื• ืœื–ืจื•ื ืžื˜ื” ืžื”ืชืงืจื”,
01:21
opening and closing, interacting with us like flowers?
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ื›ืฉื”ื ื ืคืชื—ื™ื ื•ื ืกื’ืจื™ื ื•ื™ื•ืฆืจื™ื ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื›ืžื• ืคืจื—ื™ื?
01:27
I was longing for this feeling to feel present and in the moment,
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ื›ืžื”ืชื™ ืœื”ืจื’ืฉื” ื”ื–ื•, ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื ื•ื›ื—ืช ื‘ืจื’ืข,
01:31
the way how I feel when I walk in a forest.
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ื›ืžื• ืฉืื ื™ ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื” ืฉืื ื™ ืžื˜ื™ื™ืœืช ื‘ื™ืขืจ.
01:34
The idea was maybe impractical
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ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืื•ืœื™ ื‘ืœืชื™-ืžืขืฉื™,
01:36
because to make movement, we probably had to work with motors and software
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ื›ื™ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื™ื™ืฆืจ ืชื ื•ืขื” ื”ื™ื” ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืื•ืœื™ ืขื ืžื ื•ืขื™ื ื•ืชื•ื›ื ื•ืช
01:41
and other tools and knowledge that we didn't have.
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ื•ืขื ื›ืœื™ื ื•ื™ื“ืข ืื—ืจื™ื ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ืจืฉื•ืชื ื•.
01:44
So we decided to start this project.
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ืื– ื”ื—ืœื˜ื ื• ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ื‘ืžื™ื–ื ื”ื–ื”.
01:47
In two weeks of kit bashing vacuum cleaner parts
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ื‘ืชื•ืš ืฉื‘ื•ืขื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืชืขืกืงื•ืช ื‘ื—ืœืงื™ื ืฉืœ ืฉื•ืื‘-ืื‘ืง
01:50
and folding paper patterns,
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ื•ื“ืคื•ืกื™ื ืฉืœ ืงื™ืคื•ืœื™ ื ื™ื™ืจ,
01:52
we have barely something moving, but it was our deadline,
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ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉื–ื– ื‘ืงื•ืฉื™, ืื‘ืœ ืชื ื”ื–ืžืŸ.
01:56
so we brought our drafts to a local exhibition.
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ืื– ื”ื‘ืื ื• ืืช ื”ื˜ื™ื•ื˜ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื• ืœืชืขืจื•ื›ื” ืžืงื•ืžื™ืช.
02:00
To our surprise,
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ืœื”ืคืชืขืชื ื•,
02:02
the shy opening and proudly descending creatures
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ื”ื™ืฆื•ืจื™ื ืฉื ืคืชื—ื• ื‘ื‘ื™ื™ืฉื ื•ืช ื•ื’ืœืฉื• ืœืžื˜ื” ื‘ื’ืื•ืŸ
02:06
immediately drew attention.
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ืขื•ืจืจื• ืžื™ื“ ืชืฉื•ืžืช-ืœื‘.
02:08
People responded to them with wonder and a smile on their face,
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ืื ืฉื™ื ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื• ืืœื™ื”ื ื‘ืคืœื™ืื” ื•ื‘ื—ื™ื•ื›ื™ื,
02:13
almost as if there was a puppy in the room.
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ื›ืžืขื˜ ื›ืื™ืœื• ืจืื• ืฉื ื›ืœื‘ืœื‘.
02:16
And we thought it was quite cool
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ื—ืฉื‘ื ื• ืฉื–ื” ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ
02:18
that with our art we could change peopleโ€™s behavior.
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ืฉืื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื”ืืžื ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•.
02:21
So we decided to explore this further.
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ืื– ื”ื—ืœื˜ื ื• ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืœื‘ื—ื•ืŸ ืืช ื”ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื”.
02:25
Project "Shylight" became a process of years.
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ืžื™ื–ื โ€œืื•ืจ ื‘ื™ื™ืฉืŸโ€ ื”ืคืš ืœืชื”ืœื™ืš ืฉื ืžืฉืš ืฉื ื™ื.
02:29
Coming from art school with no technical background,
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ื›ืžื™ ืฉื‘ืื• ืžื‘ื™ืช-ืกืคืจ ืœืืžื ื•ืช ืœืœื ืฉื•ื ื™ื“ืข ื˜ื›ื ื™,
02:32
we had to learn to build control boards, develop programming software,
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ื”ื™ื” ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืœื‘ื ื•ืช ืœื•ื—ื•ืช ืื, ืœืคืชื— ืชื•ื›ื ื•ืช,
02:37
make mechanics move in an organic way with gravity and complex silk patterns.
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ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืžื›ื ื™ืงื” ืฉื ืขื” ื‘ืฆื•ืจื” ืื•ืจื’ื ื™ืช ืขื ื”ื›ื‘ื™ื“ื” ื•ืขื ืชื‘ื ื™ื•ืช ืžืฉื™ ืžื•ืจื›ื‘ื•ืช.
02:42
Basically, we had to become engineers, programmers,
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ื‘ืขืงืจื•ืŸ, ื”ื™ื” ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœื”ื™ืขืฉื•ืช ืœืžื”ื ื“ืกื™ื, ืžืชื›ื ืชื™ื,
02:46
seamstresses and choreographers at the same time.
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ื—ื™ื™ื˜ื™ื ื•ื›ื•ืจื™ืื•ื’ืจืคื™ื ื•ื”ื›ืœ ื‘ื™ื—ื“.
02:51
But how do you express a motion
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ืื‘ืœ ืื™ืš ืžื‘ื˜ืื™ื ืชื ื•ืขื”
02:54
between an acceleration factor and a coordinate?
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ื‘ืžื’ื‘ืœื•ืช ืฉืœ ืชืื•ืฆื” ื•ืงื•ืื•ืจื“ื™ื ื˜ื•ืช?
02:58
Here is where we learned the most important thing.
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ื•ื›ืืŸ ืœืžื“ื ื• ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื›ื™ ื—ืฉื•ื‘.
03:01
(Music)
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(ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”)
03:12
It's not about that it moves.
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ื”ืฉืืœื” ืื™ื ื ื” ืื ื–ื” ื ืข,
03:16
It's about how it moves.
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ืืœื ืื™ืš ื–ื” ื ืข.
03:18
Our body responds automatically to certain types of movement,
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ื’ื•ืคื ื• ืžื’ื™ื‘ ืื•ื˜ื•ืžื˜ื™ืช ืœืกื•ื’ื™ ืชื ื•ืขื” ืžืกื•ื™ืžื™ื,
03:23
movement we already know from nature.
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ืชื ื•ืขื” ืฉืื ื• ื›ื‘ืจ ืžื›ื™ืจื™ื ืžืŸ ื”ื˜ื‘ืข.
03:26
Rhythms that are programmed deep within us.
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ืžืงืฆื‘ื™ื ืฉืžืชื•ื›ื ืชื™ื ืขืžื•ืง ื‘ืชื•ื›ื ื•.
03:35
We are designed to be in a constant
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ืื ื• ื‘ื ื•ื™ื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื™ื—ืกื™-ื’ื•ืžืœื™ืŸ ืžืชืžื™ื“ื™ื ื•ื“ื™ื ืžื™ื™ื ืขื ืกื‘ื™ื‘ืชื ื•.
03:37
and dynamic interaction with our environment.
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03:40
There are numerous phenomena in nature that are super inspiring.
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ื™ืฉ ื‘ื˜ื‘ืข ื”ืžื•ืŸ ืชื•ืคืขื•ืช ืขืชื™ืจื•ืช ื”ืฉืจืื”.
03:45
But perhaps the most intriguing
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ืื‘ืœ ืื•ืœื™ ื”ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ืชื™ืช ื”ืจืœื•ื•ื ื˜ื™ืช ื•ื”ืžืกืงืจื ืช ืžื›ื•ืœืŸ ื‘ืขื™ื ื™
03:47
and relevant animal behavior to me is murmuration.
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ื”ื™ื ืœื”ืงืช ื”ื–ืจื–ื™ืจื™ื.
03:51
Imagine thousands of individuals going places together,
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ื“ืžื™ื™ื ื• ืœืขืฆืžื›ื ืืœืคื™ ืคืจื˜ื™ื ืฉื ืขื™ื ื™ื—ื“,
03:56
with no clear leader,
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ืœืœื ืฉื•ื ืžื ื”ื™ื’ ื‘ืจื•ืจ,
03:58
without fighting,
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ืœืœื ืžืื‘ืง,
04:00
still following their impulses and avoiding each other.
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ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช ืคื•ืขืœื™ื ืขืœ ืคื™ ื“ื—ืคื™ื”ื ื•ืฉื•ืžืจื™ื ืขืœ ืžืจื—ืง ื–ื” ืžื–ื”.
04:04
Isn't this amazing?
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ื”ืื™ืŸ ื–ื” ืžื“ื”ื™ื?
04:07
Because we are not capable of doing this.
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ืฉื”ืจื™ ืื ื• ืื™ื ื ื• ืžืกื•ื’ืœื™ื ืœื›ืš.
04:10
So dreaming big, we had this other idea.
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ืื– ื›ืžื™ ืฉื—ื•ืœืžื™ื ื—ืœื•ืžื•ืช ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื, ื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื ื•ืกืฃ.
04:14
How cool would it be if we could create a murmuration
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ื ื›ื•ืŸ ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ ืื ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืœื”ืง ื–ืจื–ื™ืจื™ื
04:19
with hundreds of lights flying in the sky,
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ืฉืœ ืžืื•ืช ืื•ืจื•ืช ืฉืžืขื•ืคืคื™ื ื‘ืฉืžื™ื™ื,
04:23
responding to each other as birds?
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ื•ืžื’ื™ื‘ื™ื ื‘ื™ื ื™ื”ื ื›ืžื• ืฆื™ืคื•ืจื™ื?
04:26
Well, you would think you could hang a light under a drone.
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ื ื›ื•ืŸ, ืืคืฉืจ ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ืชืœื™ื™ืช ืคื ืก ืžืชื—ืช ืœืจื—ืคืŸ.
04:30
But back in 2008, drones didn't really exist yet in the way they are today.
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ืื‘ืœ ื‘-2008 ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื”ืจื—ืคื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื™ื•ื.
04:35
Universities were testing, in an early stage, quadcopters.
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ื”ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ืื•ืช ื‘ื—ื ื•, ื‘ืฉืœื‘ ืžื•ืงื“ื, ืจื—ืคื ื™ื ื‘ืขืœื™ ืืจื‘ืข ืจื•ื˜ื•ืจื™ื.
04:39
And in our search for collaborations and technologies
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ื•ื‘ื—ื™ืคื•ืฉื™ื ื• ืื—ืจ ืฉื™ืชื•ืคื™ ืคืขื•ืœื” ื•ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื•ืช
04:43
to help get all these objects in the sky at the same time,
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืขืœื•ืช ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืขืฆืžื™ื ื”ืืœื” ื‘ื‘ืช-ืื—ืช ืœืฉืžื™ื™ื,
04:47
we didn't find anything.
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ืœื ื”ืฆืœื—ื ื• ืœื”ืฉื™ื’ ื›ืืœื”.
04:50
We were just way too early.
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ืคืฉื•ื˜, ื”ืงื“ืžื ื• ืžืื•ื“ ืืช ื–ืžื ื ื•.
04:52
But we were so excited about this idea.
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื”ืœื”ื™ื‘ ืื•ืชื ื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš.
04:55
We just had to do this project.
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ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืžื•ื›ืจื—ื™ื ืœื‘ืฆืข ืืช ื”ืžื™ื–ื ื”ื–ื”,
04:58
Not knowing that we would plant a seed
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ืžื‘ืœื™ ืœื“ืขืช ืฉืื ื• ืฉื•ืชืœื™ื ื–ืจืข
05:00
for what almost ten years later is becoming an industry.
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ืœืžื” ืฉื™ื”ืคื•ืš ื›ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืขืฉืจ ืฉื ื™ื ืœืชืขืฉื™ื”.
05:06
In our software development,
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ืคื™ืชื•ื— ื”ืชื•ื›ื ื” ืฉืœื ื• ื”ื™ื” ืœื“ืขืชื™ ืชื”ืœื™ืš ื™ื™ื—ื•ื“ื™ ืœืžื“ื™.
05:08
I think this was quite a unique process.
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05:11
Different engineers basing their code on scientific data,
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ื”ืžื”ื ื“ืกื™ื ื”ืฉื•ื ื™ื ื‘ื™ืกืกื• ืืช ื”ืงื•ื“ ืฉืœื”ื ืขืœ ื ืชื•ื ื™ื ืžื“ืขื™ื™ื,
05:15
we developed our software as artists
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ืคื™ืชื—ื ื• ืืช ื”ืชื•ื›ื ื” ืฉืœื ื• ื›ืžื• ืืžื ื™ื
05:17
by observing swarms for hours and hours.
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ืชื•ืš ืฆืคื™ื” ื‘ื ื—ื™ืœื™ื ื‘ืžืฉืš ืฉืขื•ืช ืขืœ ื’ื‘ื™ ืฉืขื•ืช.
05:21
Not calculating but relating to the behavior of these birds.
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ืœื ื—ื™ืฉื‘ื ื• ืืช ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ื”ืฆื™ืคื•ืจื™ื ืืœื ื”ืชื™ื™ื—ืกื ื• ืœื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืชืŸ.
05:26
It was incredible how many uncontrollable factors were influencing their choices.
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ืื™-ืืคืฉืจ ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ืืžื™ืŸ ื›ืžื” ื’ื•ืจืžื™ื ื‘ืœืชื™ ื ื™ืชื ื™ื ืœืฉืœื™ื˜ื”
ืžืฉืคื™ืขื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื‘ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ืฉืœื”ืŸ.
05:33
But it also made me realize, and it was eye-opening actually,
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ืื‘ืœ ืžืชื•ืš ื›ืš ื”ื‘ื ืชื™, ื•ื–ื” ืžืžืฉ ืคืงื— ืืช ืขื™ื ื™,
05:37
that also this happens to me.
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ืฉื–ื” ืงื•ืจื” ื’ื ืœื™.
05:40
I don't have control over my life.
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ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืฉืœื™ื˜ื” ืขืœ ื—ื™ื™.
05:43
With a computer, of course,
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ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ืžื—ืฉื‘, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ,
05:44
you can test multiple scenarios without big consequences.
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ืืคืฉืจ ืœื‘ื—ื•ืŸ ืชืจื—ื™ืฉื™ื ืจื‘ื™ื ืœืœื ื”ืฉืœื›ื•ืช ืจืฆื™ื ื™ื•ืช.
05:49
But of course, this was not the physical reality.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ืืช ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืœื ื”ื™ืชื” ื”ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช ื”ืคื™ื–ื™ืช.
05:53
Well, imagine how excited we were
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ืชืืจื• ืœืขืฆืžื›ื ื›ืžื” ื”ืชืจื’ืฉื ื•
05:55
when almost ten years later this was no longer software.
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ื›ืฉืœืื—ืจ ื›ืžืขื˜ ืขืฉืจ ืฉื ื™ื ื–ืืช ื›ื‘ืจ ืœื ื”ื™ืชื” ืชื•ื›ื ื”.
05:59
(Video) Ralph Nauta: OK, this is a test one.
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(ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ) ืจืืœืฃ ื ื˜ื•ืื”: ืื•ืงื™ื™, ื‘ื“ื™ืงื” ืžืกโ€ฒ 1.
06:03
Lonneke Gordijn: There they were, drones,
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ืœื•ื ืงื” ื’ื•ืจื“ื™ืŸ: ื”ื ื” ื”ื. ืจื—ืคื ื™ื, ื‘ื–ื” ืื—ืจ ื–ื”, ืžื•ืคื™ืขื™ื ื‘ืฉืžื™ื™ื.
06:06
one by one, appearing in the sky.
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06:09
Slowly starting to swarm.
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ื”ื ืžืชื—ื™ืœื™ื ืื˜-ืื˜ ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ื ื—ื™ืœ.
06:14
We were observing it.
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ืฆืคื™ื ื• ื‘ื–ื”.
06:17
We were feeling it.
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ื”ืจื’ืฉื ื• ืืช ื–ื”.
06:20
And we felt nothing.
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ื•ืœื ื”ืจื’ืฉื ื• ื“ื‘ืจ.
06:24
Nothing.
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ื›ืœื•ื.
06:26
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
06:27
No emotional response.
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ืฉื•ื ืชื’ื•ื‘ื” ืจื’ืฉื™ืช.
06:28
We remained blanco.
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ื ื•ืชืจื ื• ืงื”ื™ื. ืžื”?!
06:31
What?
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06:32
On a computer, it looked great.
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ื‘ืžื—ืฉื‘ ื–ื” ื ืจืื” ื ื”ื“ืจ.
06:35
But this swarm looked way too technical.
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ื—ื™ืœ ื”ื–ื” ื ืจืื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื“ื™ ื˜ื›ื ื™.
06:39
And we had to go back and let nature be our teacher
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ื ืืœืฆื ื• ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœื”ืชื—ืœื” ื•ืœื”ื ื™ื— ืœื˜ื‘ืข ืœืœืžื“ ืื•ืชื ื•,
06:42
because we were fighting the nature of our technology.
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ืžืฉื•ื ืฉื ืื‘ืงื ื• ื‘ื˜ื‘ืขื” ืฉืœ ื”ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” ืฉืœื ื•.
06:47
Well, in a creative process, you try, you fail, you start over again.
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ื›ืŸ, ื‘ืชื”ืœื™ืš ื™ืฆื™ืจืชื™ ืžื ืกื™ื, ื ื›ืฉืœื™ื, ื•ืžืชื—ื™ืœื™ื ืžื—ื“ืฉ.
06:52
You change direction.
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ืžืฉื ื™ื ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ.
06:54
Like evolution and like murmuration.
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ื›ืžื• ื”ืื‘ื•ืœื•ืฆื™ื” ื•ื›ืžื• ืœื”ืง ื”ื–ืจื–ื™ืจื™ื.
06:57
And you're not in control,
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ื•ืื™ืŸ ืฉืœื™ื˜ื”,
06:59
but you have to pave the road
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ืื‘ืœ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืกืœื•ืœ ืืช ื”ื“ืจืš
07:01
in this constant and dynamic relationship with whatever that happens.
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ื‘ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื™ื—ืกื™ื ื”ืžืชืžื“ืช ื•ื”ื“ื™ื ืžื™ืช ื”ื–ื• ืขื ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉืงื•ืจื”.
07:05
You know when it's right, when you feel it.
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ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืฉื–ื” ื ื›ื•ืŸ ื›ืฉืžืจื’ื™ืฉื™ื ืืช ื–ื”.
07:08
You feel when the connection is made.
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ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื—ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ื ื•ืฆืจ.
07:12
So in 2018, we finally took our artwork to Burning Man.
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ืื– ื‘-2018 ื”ื‘ืื ื• ืกื•ืฃ-ืกื•ืฃ ืืช ื”ื™ืฆื™ืจื” ืฉืœื ื• ืœโ€œื‘ืจื ื™ื ื’ ืžืŸโ€œ.
07:17
(Music)
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(ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”)
07:22
The drones took off.
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ื”ืจื—ืคื ื™ื ื”ืžืจื™ืื•.
07:25
And it was magic.
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ื•ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืงืกื•ื.
07:28
The swarm, larger than a building, was murmuring over the desert.
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ื”ื ื—ื™ืœ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืžื‘ื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ืชื ื—ืฉืœ ืžืขืœ ืœืžื“ื‘ืจ.
07:37
It wasn't a sculpture or a performance.
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ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืคืกืœ ืื• ื”ื•ืคืขื”.
07:41
It was something bigger.
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžืฉื”ื• ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ.
07:43
It became an environment that impacted the audience
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ื–ื” ื”ืคืš ืœืกื‘ื™ื‘ื” ืฉื”ืฉืคื™ืขื” ืขืœ ื”ืงื”ืœ ื›ื•ืœื•
07:46
all at once in the same way.
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ื‘ื‘ืช-ืื—ืช ื•ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืฆื•ืจื”.
07:49
And together with the music,
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ื•ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ื”ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”,
07:51
everyone melted into one energy.
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ื›ื•ืœื ื”ืชืžื•ืกืกื• ื•ื”ืคื›ื• ืœืื ืจื’ื™ื” ืื—ืช.
07:55
People were crying.
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ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ื›ื•.
07:57
I was crying.
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ืื ื™ ื‘ื›ื™ืชื™.
07:59
It was powerful.
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื—ื–ืง ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ.
08:02
And this experience connected all the present elements
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ื•ื”ื—ื•ื•ื™ื” ื”ื–ื• ื—ื™ื‘ืจื” ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืจื›ื™ื‘ื™ื ื”ื ื•ื›ื—ื™ื
08:06
in that one moment.
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ื‘ืื•ืชื• ืจื’ืข ื™ื—ื™ื“.
08:07
And it felt like a collective memory that came from deep within our DNA.
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ื”ื”ืจื’ืฉื” ื”ื™ืชื” ืฉืœ ื–ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืžืฉื•ืชืฃ ืฉืฆืฃ ื•ืขืœื” ืžืžืขืžืงื™ ื”ื“ื โ€œื ืฉืœื ื•.
08:13
(Music)
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(ืžื•ื–ื™ืงื”)
08:27
In nature, every environment --
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ื‘ื˜ื‘ืข, ื›ืœ ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื” --
08:29
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
08:30
Thank you.
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ืชื•ื“ื”.
08:31
(Applause)
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08:35
In nature, every environment is constantly moving.
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ื‘ื˜ื‘ืข, ื›ืœ ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื” ื ืžืฆืืช ื‘ืชื ื•ืขื” ืžืชืžื“ืช.
08:39
And an animal doesn't know what it will eat tonight or at what time,
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ื”ื—ื™ื” ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืžื” ืชืื›ืœ ื”ืขืจื‘, ืื• ืžืชื™,
08:43
but it will be present in the moment,
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ืชื”ื™ื” ื ื•ื›ื—ืช ื‘ืจื’ืข, ืžื•ื›ื ื” ืœื”ืกืชื’ืœ ืœื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉื™ืงืจื”.
08:45
ready to adapt to whatever is happening.
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08:49
So why are human-built environments static?
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ืื– ืžื“ื•ืข ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื•ืช ืžืขืฉื” ื™ื“ื™ ืื“ื ื”ืŸ ืกื˜ื˜ื™ื•ืช?
08:53
Nothing moves.
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ืฉื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ ืœื ื ืข.
08:55
Do we realize that this also stops us from moving?
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ื”ืื ืื ื• ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื ืฉื–ื” ื’ื ืžื•ื ืข ืžืื™ืชื ื• ืœื ื•ืข?
09:00
Did we unlearn to deal with change?
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ื”ืื ืฉื›ื—ื ื• ืื™ืš ืœื”ืชืžื•ื“ื“ ืขื ื”ืฉื™ื ื•ื™?
09:04
Is this why we stopped noticing our environment?
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ื”ืื ื–ื• ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ืฉื”ืคืกืงื ื• ืœืฉื™ื ืœื‘ ืœืกื‘ื™ื‘ืชื ื•?
09:09
And is this maybe why we don't respond to climate change,
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ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื–ื” ืื™ื ื ื• ืžื’ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ื”ืืงืœื™ื,
09:14
and we feel numb while this is actually happening?
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ื•ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื™ื ืงื”ื™ื ื•ืื˜ื•ืžื™ื ืฉื–ื” ืงื•ืจื” ื‘ืคื•ืขืœ?
09:19
Behind me, you'll see a block of concrete.
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ืžืื—ื•ืจื™ ืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื ื’ื•ืฉ ื‘ื˜ื•ืŸ.
09:23
I don't know if you noticed it before.
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ืื™ื ื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื ื”ื‘ื—ื ืชื ื‘ื• ืงื•ื“ื.
09:26
But how do you feel about a block of concrete?
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ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืืชื ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื™ื ื‘ื™ื—ืก ืœื’ื•ืฉ ื‘ื˜ื•ืŸ?
09:31
Is it necessary to feel anything at all?
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ื”ืื ืžื•ื›ืจื—ื™ื ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืฉ ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืžืฉื”ื•?
09:33
Because it's just a block of concrete.
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ื”ืจื™ ื–ื” ืกืชื ื’ื•ืฉ ื‘ื˜ื•ืŸ.
09:36
We are so used to be part of a static world
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ืื ื• ื›ืœ-ื›ืš ืจื’ื™ืœื™ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื—ืœืง ืžืขื•ืœื ืกื˜ื˜ื™
09:40
with concrete as its main character.
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ืฉื”ื‘ื˜ื•ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื”ืžืืคื™ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื™ืงืจื™ ืฉืœื•.
09:44
But this shouldn't be our world.
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ืื‘ืœ ืขื•ืœืžื ื• ืœื ืืžื•ืจ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ื–ื”.
09:47
This is how we used to think,
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ื›ื›ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื”ืชืจื’ืœื ื• ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘,
09:49
but this cannot be our future.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืขืชื™ื“ื ื•.
09:53
What can we learn if the world is not in our control?
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ืžื” ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืื ื”ืขื•ืœื ืœื ื™ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืฉืœื™ื˜ืชื ื•?
09:58
What can we learn if we disrupt our expectations?
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ืžื” ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืื ื ืฉื‘ืฉ ืืช ืฆื™ืคื™ื•ืชื™ื ื•?
10:07
Well, at the moment the reality is just changing here in front of you.
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ื‘ื–ื” ื”ืจื’ืข, ื”ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช ืžืฉืชื ื” ืœื ื’ื“ ืขื™ื ื™ื›ื.
10:14
Can you accept what you see?
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ื”ืื ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ืืฉืจ ืขื™ื ื™ื›ื ืจื•ืื•ืช?
10:18
And how does this feel?
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ื•ืžื” ื”ื”ืจื’ืฉื”?
10:22
Is it frightening?
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ื”ืื ื–ื” ืžืคื—ื™ื“?
10:26
Or can you feel a sense of wonder for a block of concrete?
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ืื• ืฉืืชื ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื™ื ืžืขื™ืŸ ืคืœื™ืื” ื›ืœืคื™ ื’ื•ืฉ ื‘ื˜ื•ืŸ?
10:37
Can you imagine there would be a moment
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ื”ืื ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœื“ืžื™ื™ืŸ ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” ืจื’ืข
10:39
that you feel open
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ืฉื‘ื• ืชืจื’ื™ืฉื• ืคืชื™ื—ื•ืช
10:42
to have a connection with a block of concrete?
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ืœืงืฉืจ ืขื ื’ื•ืฉ ื‘ื˜ื•ืŸ?
10:56
(Cheers and applause)
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(ืชืจื•ืขื•ืช ื•ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
11:05
How can we deal with a changing world?
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ืื™ืš ื ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ืชืžื•ื“ื“ ืขื ืขื•ืœื ืžืฉืชื ื”?
11:08
Are we in control?
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ื”ืื ืื ื• ื‘ืฉืœื™ื˜ื”?
11:12
I never felt at home in the static world.
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ืžืขื•ืœื ืœื ื—ืฉืชื™ ื‘ื ื•ื— ื‘ืขื•ืœื ืกื˜ื˜ื™.
11:16
And since my childhood,
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ื•ืžืื– ื™ืœื“ื•ืชื™,
11:17
I felt that animal behavior and plant behavior
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ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืฉื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ื”ื—ื™ื•ืช ื•ื”ืฆืžื—ื™ื
11:22
is way more logical than the way people behave.
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ื”ื’ื™ื•ื ื™ืช ื‘ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืืฉืจ ื”ืชื ื”ื’ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื ืฉื™ื.
11:25
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
11:38
As artists, we develop artworks
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ื›ืืžื ื™ื, ืื ื• ืžืคืชื—ื™ื ื™ืฆื™ืจื•ืช ืืžื ื•ืช
11:42
that use movement to open us up
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ืฉืžืฉืชืžืฉื•ืช ื‘ืชื ื•ืขื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœืคืชื•ื— ืื•ืชื ื•
11:46
and make us feel safe to embrace change.
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ื•ืœืืžืฅ ืืช ื”ืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ื‘ืชื—ื•ืฉืช ื‘ื˜ื—ื•ืŸ.
11:50
Because there is one fact.
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ืฉื”ืจื™ ื™ืฉ ืขื•ื‘ื“ื” ืื—ืช.
11:53
Change is coming.
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ื”ืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ืžื’ื™ืข.
11:55
And we are not in control.
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ื•ืื ื• ืื™ื ื ื• ื‘ืฉืœื™ื˜ื”.
11:59
We are murmuring.
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ืื ื• ืžืขื•ืคืคื™ื ื‘ืœื”ืงื”.
12:01
We are drifting.
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ืื ื• ื ืกื—ืคื™ื.
12:04
Thank you.
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ืชื•ื“ื” ืœื›ื.
12:05
(Cheers and applause)
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(ืชืจื•ืขื•ืช ื•ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
12:21
Helen Walters: So don't worry, it'll be here all session.
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ื”ืœืŸ ื•ื•ื˜ืจืก: ืืœ ืชื“ืื’ื•, ื”ื•ื ื™ื”ื™ื” ื›ืืŸ ืœื›ืœ ืื•ืจืš ื”ื›ื ืก.
12:24
But just ...
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ืื– ืจืง...
12:25
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
12:26
Lonneke, that was amazing.
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ืœื•ื ืงื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืžื“ื”ื™ื.
12:29
I'm really sorry, you guys.
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ืื ื™ ื‘ืืžืช ืžืฆื˜ืขืจืช, ื—ื‘ืจโ€™ื”.
12:31
It's on its way out, it's fine.
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ื”ื•ื ื‘ื“ืจืš ื”ื—ื•ืฆื”, ื–ื” ื‘ืกื“ืจ.
12:34
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
12:35
Okay, so come over here.
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ื˜ื•ื‘, ื‘ื•ืื™ ื”ื ื”.
12:37
Just as long as we're fine, that's fine.
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ื›ืœ ืขื•ื“ ืฉืชื™ื ื• ื‘ืกื“ืจ, ื”ื›ืœ ื‘ืกื“ืจ.
12:41
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
12:42
LG: We're safe.
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ืœโ€œื’: ืื ื• ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื•ืช.
12:46
HW: What's happening?
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ื”โ€œื•ื•: ืžื” ืงื•ืจื”?
12:48
LG: Well ...
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ืœโ€œื’: ื˜ื•ื‘...
12:49
This drifter tries to find its way out.
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ื”ื ื•ื•ื“ ืžื ืกื” ืœืžืฆื•ื ืืช ื“ืจื›ื• ื”ื—ื•ืฆื”.
ื”โ€œื•: ื”ื•ื ืžื ืกื” ืœืžืฆื•ื ืืช ื“ืจื›ื• ื”ื—ื•ืฆื”.
12:52
HW: It's trying to find its way out.
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12:53
Is it sentient?
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ื”ื•ื ื™ืฆื•ืจ ื ื‘ื•ืŸ?
12:55
LG: Well, it should know where it goes.
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ืœโ€œื’: ื˜ื•ื‘, ื”ื•ื ืืžื•ืจ ืœื“ืขืช ืœืืŸ ืœืœื›ืช.
12:57
So let's see.
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ืขื•ื“ ื ืจืื”. ื”โ€œื•: ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืืžืช, ืžื” ืงื•ืจื”?
12:59
HW: No, but really, what's happening?
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13:00
What is going on?
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ืžื” ืงื•ืจื”?
13:02
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
13:03
LG: I mean,
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ืœโ€œื’: ื˜ื•ื‘,
13:04
this is kind of magic, I would say,
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ื–ื” ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืงืกื, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื•ืžืจืช,
13:07
and a big piece of engineering for my colleagues
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ื•ื—ืชื™ื›ืช ืžืœืื›ืช ื”ื ื“ืกื” ืจืฆื™ื ื™ืช ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ืช ื—ื‘ืจื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”
13:10
and amazing engineers that are making this happen.
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ืžื”ื ื“ืกื™ื ืžื“ื”ื™ืžื™ื, ืฉื”ื ืืœื” ืฉื’ื•ืจืžื™ื ืœื–ื” ืœืงืจื•ืช.
13:13
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
13:15
Yeah.
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ื›ืŸ.
13:16
HW: OK, so, with this,
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ื”โ€œื•: ืื ื›ืš,
ื‘ืขื™ืงืจื•ืŸ ื‘ืืช ืœื‘ื™ืžืช TED
13:19
you basically just came to the TED stage
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13:21
and told a whole bunch of type-A people to cede control,
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ื•ืืžืจืช ืœื—ื‘ื•ืจืช ืื ืฉื™ ืืœืคื ืœื•ื•ืชืจ ืขืœ ื”ืฉืœื™ื˜ื”,
13:26
to like, give up control.
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ืœื”ื ื™ื— ืœืฉืœื™ื˜ื”.
ื™ืฉ ืœืš ืขืฆื” ืื™ืš ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื–ืืช?
13:28
Like, do you have any advice for how we should do that,
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13:31
especially when there's something concrete floating over our heads?
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ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ื›ืฉืžืฉื”ื• ืžื•ืฆืง (ื’ื: ื‘ื˜ื•ืŸ) ืฆืฃ ืžืขืœ ืœืจืืฉื™ื ื•?
13:35
No, but like, seriously, like, your work is about trial and error.
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ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืจืฆื™ื ื•ืช, ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœืš ืขื•ืกืงืช ื‘ื ื™ืกื•ื™ ื•ื˜ืขื™ื”.
13:38
It's about experimentation.
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ื‘ื”ืชื ืกื•ืช.
ื™ืฉ ืœืš ืขืฆื•ืช ื›ืœืฉื”ืŸ ืขื‘ื•ืจื ื•?
13:40
Do you have any tips for the rest of us?
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13:42
I mean, not me, but these guys.
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ืื ื™ ื‘ืกื“ืจ, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื...
13:43
LG: (Laughs)
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ืœโ€œื’: (ืฆื•ื—ืงืช).
13:45
Well, I think it's an illusion that we have control.
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื–ื” ืฉืื ื• ื‘ืฉืœื™ื˜ื” ื”ื•ื ืืฉืœื™ื”.
13:50
And if you look at nature, you see that it's also not there.
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ื•ืื ืžืชื‘ื•ื ื ื™ื ื‘ื˜ื‘ืข, ืจื•ืื™ื ืฉื’ื ืฉื ืื™ืŸ ื“ื‘ืจ ื›ื–ื”.
13:53
And I think we have to accept who we are,
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ื•ืœื“ืขืชื™ ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ืžื™ ืฉืื ื—ื ื•,
13:58
that we are not in control and that we need to change.
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ืืช ื–ื” ืฉืื™ื ื ื• ื‘ืฉืœื™ื˜ื” ื•ืฉืขืœื™ื ื• ืœื”ืฉืชื ื•ืช.
14:00
You know, our bodies are made to change,
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ื’ื•ืคื ื• ื‘ื ื•ื™ ืœืฉื™ื ื•ื™,
14:03
but we kind of forgot about it.
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ืื‘ืœ ืื ื• ืงืฆืช ืฉื›ื—ื ื• ืืช ื–ื”.
14:04
We built our safety structure around us, and we need to learn to go with it
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ืื ื• ื‘ื•ื ื™ื ืกื‘ื™ื‘ื ื• ืžื‘ื ื™ ื‘ื˜ื™ื—ื•ืช, ื•ืขืœื™ื ื• ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืœื”ืชืงื“ื ืื™ืชื
14:09
and change with it as we are changing
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ื•ืœื”ืฉืชื ื•ืช ืื™ืชื ืชื•ืš ื›ื“ื™ ื”ืชืงื“ืžื•ืช.
14:12
and this world is changing.
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ื•ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ื–ื” ืžืฉืชื ื”.
14:13
HW: Lonneke, thank you so much.
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ื”โ€œื•: ืœื•ื ืงื”, ืชื•ื“ื” ืจื‘ื” ืœืš.
14:14
LG: Thank you very much.
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ืœโ€œื’: ืชื•ื“ื” ืจื‘ื” ืœื›ื.
14:16
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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