Nature, Art and Magical Blocks of Flying Concrete | Lonneke Gordijn | TED

譯者: 穎君 紀 審譯者: Shelley Tsang 曾雯海

When I look at a flower,

當我看著一朵花時，

I don't see just a beautiful object to put in a vase.

我看到的不只是可以 插在花瓶裡的美麗物體。

I see an intelligent organism that is not still.

我看到的是有智慧的 生物，不是靜止的。

Perhaps it just opened its petals to discover light for the first time.

也許它才剛展開它的花瓣， 初次感受到陽光。

Or maybe it's at the end of its period,

或者它的生命已經來到尾聲，

desperately blossoming to attract a bee and get pollinated.

拼命盛開，希望能 吸引蜜蜂來協助授粉。

As humans, we innately respond to the blooming of a flower.

我們人類本能就會對開花有所反應。

But how do we design this exact feeling?

但我們要如何確切設計出這種感受？

How can we capture this visceral response in people?

我們要如何捕捉人類 內心深處的這種反應？

I co-founded an artistic practice to tap the mysteries of this world,

我和別人共同創辦了 一間藝術工作室，

來探索這個世界的奧秘，

not by studying, but by making.

不是透過研究，而是透過創作。

We called our studio "Drift"

我們的工作室叫「DRIFT（漂）」，

and wondered why almost everything that is made by people is static.

我們很納悶，為什麼人創作的東西幾乎

都是靜態的？

Because nature is never static.

大自然從來不是靜態的。

Our mission is informed by nature,

我們的使命受到大自然的啟發，

and evolution is our process.

演化就是我們的流程。

That means we try and fail,

意思就是，我們不斷嘗試和失敗，

反覆數千次之後才成功。

make thousands of iterations before we succeed.

In 2006,

2006 年，

when the studio was still the two of us,

工作室成員仍然只有我們兩個人，

I had an idea.

那時我有個點子。

How cool would it be

這樣會不會很酷：

if suddenly little lights would flow down from the ceiling,

突然有些小燈 從天花板上流下來，

opening and closing, interacting with us like flowers?

開開合合，

像花朵一樣跟我們互動。

I was longing for this feeling to feel present and in the moment,

我很渴望這種活在當下的感覺，

the way how I feel when I walk in a forest.

我在森林中散步時的感覺。

The idea was maybe impractical

這個點子可能不太實際，

because to make movement, we probably had to work with motors and software

因為如果要讓小燈會動， 我們可能要用到馬達、

軟體，以及其他我們 沒有的工具和知識。

and other tools and knowledge that we didn't have.

So we decided to start this project.

於是我們決定著手進行這個計畫。

In two weeks of kit bashing vacuum cleaner parts

經過兩個星期翻箱倒櫃， 拼湊吸塵器零件

and folding paper patterns,

用紙摺出圖案，

we have barely something moving, but it was our deadline,

我們才勉強讓一些東西動起來，但，

期限要到了，所以我們把我們的 草圖帶到當地的展覽會上。

so we brought our drafts to a local exhibition.

To our surprise,

讓我們吃驚的是，

the shy opening and proudly descending creatures

當這些創作物羞澀地打開 並自豪地下降時，

immediately drew attention.

馬上吸引了大家的注意力。

People responded to them with wonder and a smile on their face,

大家對它們的反應是驚歎

同時臉上露出微笑，

almost as if there was a puppy in the room.

就彷彿房間中出現了一隻小狗。

And we thought it was quite cool

藝術改變了人的行為， 我們覺得這點很酷。

that with our art we could change people’s behavior.

So we decided to explore this further.

於是我們決定朝這方面進一步探索。

Project "Shylight" became a process of years.

「羞怯之光」計畫 變成了數年的過程。

Coming from art school with no technical background,

我們來自藝術學院，沒有科技背景，

we had to learn to build control boards, develop programming software,

我們得學習建造控制板、

開發程式軟體、

讓機械用生物的方式動起來，

make mechanics move in an organic way with gravity and complex silk patterns.

搭配重力和複雜的絲綢版型。

Basically, we had to become engineers, programmers,

基本上，我們得要變成工程師、

程式設計師、 裁縫師，

seamstresses and choreographers at the same time.

以及編舞家，將各能力集於一身。

But how do you express a motion

但我們要如何在加速因子

between an acceleration factor and a coordinate?

和座標之間表現出運動？

Here is where we learned the most important thing.

我們在這裡學到了最重要的一點。

(Music)

（音樂）

It's not about that it moves.

重點不是它會動，

It's about how it moves.

重點是它怎麼動。

Our body responds automatically to certain types of movement,

我們的身體對某些 類型的運動會有反應，

movement we already know from nature.

我們已經知道在大自然會有的運動。

Rhythms that are programmed deep within us.

這些節奏深植在我們內在。

We are designed to be in a constant

我們天生的設計就有考量到我們 和環境會經常有動態的互動。

and dynamic interaction with our environment.

There are numerous phenomena in nature that are super inspiring.

大自然中有幾個現象 都非常有啟發性。

But perhaps the most intriguing

但對我而言，最有趣且跟我們最相關的 動物行為也許是鳥群集體飛行。

and relevant animal behavior to me is murmuration.

Imagine thousands of individuals going places together,

想像有數千人一起去某個地方，

with no clear leader,

沒有明確的領導者，

without fighting,

沒有爭執，

still following their impulses and avoiding each other.

仍然按照自己的衝動， 避免彼此碰撞。

Isn't this amazing?

這不是很不可思議嗎？

Because we are not capable of doing this.

因為我們無法做到這一點。

So dreaming big, we had this other idea.

所以，做著大夢， 我們想出了另一個點子。

How cool would it be if we could create a murmuration

這樣會不會很酷：

如果我們可以創造出一種群舞，

with hundreds of lights flying in the sky,

讓數百盞燈在空中飛翔，

responding to each other as birds?

像鳥兒一般回應彼此？

Well, you would think you could hang a light under a drone.

各位可能會想，可以 把燈掛在無人機上。

But back in 2008, drones didn't really exist yet in the way they are today.

但在 2008 年，無人機 還沒有像現今這樣普及。

Universities were testing, in an early stage, quadcopters.

大學還在測試四軸飛行器的初期。

And in our search for collaborations and technologies

我們試圖尋求合作和技術

to help get all these objects in the sky at the same time,

來讓所有這些物體同時飛上天，

we didn't find anything.

但我們一無所獲。

We were just way too early.

我們的想法走得太超前了。

But we were so excited about this idea.

但這個點子讓我們好興奮，

We just had to do this project.

因此我們非做這個計畫不可。

Not knowing that we would plant a seed

渾然不知我們會種下種子，

for what almost ten years later is becoming an industry.

在近十年後發展成一個產業。

In our software development,

我認為我們的軟體開發 是個很獨特的過程。

I think this was quite a unique process.

Different engineers basing their code on scientific data,

不同的工程師根據 科學資料來寫程式，

we developed our software as artists

我們以藝術家的身分 開發我們的軟體，

by observing swarms for hours and hours.

我們的做法是花上 數小時的時間觀察鳥群。

Not calculating but relating to the behavior of these birds.

不是去計算，而是去欣賞 這些鳥兒的行為。

It was incredible how many uncontrollable factors were influencing their choices.

很不可思議的是 有好多不可控制的因素

影響牠們的選擇。

But it also made me realize, and it was eye-opening actually,

但這也讓我了解到

—同時讓我大開眼界—

that also this happens to me.

這現象也發生在我身上。

I don't have control over my life.

我無法控制我的人生。

With a computer, of course,

當然，靠電腦， 你可以測試多種情境，

you can test multiple scenarios without big consequences.

不會造成嚴重後果。

But of course, this was not the physical reality.

但當然，那並不是實體的現實。

Well, imagine how excited we were

想像我們有多興奮得知

when almost ten years later this was no longer software.

在近十年後

它不再是軟體。

(Video) Ralph Nauta: OK, this is a test one.

（影片）拉夫‧納烏塔： 好，這是測試一。

Lonneke Gordijn: There they were, drones,

講者：這些是無人機，

one by one, appearing in the sky.

一台一台出現在天空中。

Slowly starting to swarm.

慢慢地開始成群移動。

We were observing it.

我們在觀察它。

We were feeling it.

我們在感受它。

And we felt nothing.

而我們什麼都沒有感覺到。

Nothing.

什麼都沒有。

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

No emotional response.

沒有情緒反應。

We remained blanco.

我們仍然是一片空白。

What?

什麼？

On a computer, it looked great.

在電腦上看起來很棒。

But this swarm looked way too technical.

但這群無人機看起來太科技了。

And we had to go back and let nature be our teacher

我們得回頭讓大自然當我們的老師，

because we were fighting the nature of our technology.

因為我們在對抗科技的本質。

Well, in a creative process, you try, you fail, you start over again.

在創意過程中，你會嘗試、 會失敗、會再重新開始、

You change direction.

會改變方向。

Like evolution and like murmuration.

就像演化，就像群舞。

And you're not in control,

你沒有控制權，但你必須要舖路，

but you have to pave the road

in this constant and dynamic relationship with whatever that happens.

在你和所發生的事之間這種 持續且動態的關係中舖路。

You know when it's right, when you feel it.

你就是會感覺到，對，就是這樣。

You feel when the connection is made.

一切串起來後，會有種 預感告訴你這是對的路。

So in 2018, we finally took our artwork to Burning Man.

所以 2018 年時，我們把 我們的作品帶到火人祭上展覽。

(Music)

（音樂）

The drones took off.

無人機成功飛翔，

And it was magic.

就像一場美妙的魔法。

The swarm, larger than a building, was murmuring over the desert.

比大樓還大的無人機群， 群舞著飛越沙漠。

It wasn't a sculpture or a performance.

這不是雕像，也不是表演，

It was something bigger.

這是某種更意義重大的藝術。

It became an environment that impacted the audience

它變成環境本身，

all at once in the same way.

一次影響到在場所有觀眾。

And together with the music,

再加上音樂之後，

everyone melted into one energy.

大家的精神就此合而為一，

People were crying.

還有人哭了出來，

I was crying.

我也哭了出來。

It was powerful.

這部藝術品擁有磅礴的力量，

And this experience connected all the present elements

且在啟動的瞬間，磅礴的力量 與所有元素成功結合，

in that one moment.

And it felt like a collective memory that came from deep within our DNA.

彷彿就像是刻在基因裡的集體記憶。

(Music)

（音樂）

In nature, every environment --

在大自然裡，每個生態環境，

(Applause)

（鼓掌）

Thank you.

謝謝。

(Applause)

（鼓掌）

In nature, every environment is constantly moving.

在大自然裡，每個生態環境都時時在變動，

And an animal doesn't know what it will eat tonight or at what time,

動物也不知道牠今晚 會在什麼時候吃到什麼。

but it will be present in the moment,

但牠們總是活在當下，

ready to adapt to whatever is happening.

準備好對應所有情況。

So why are human-built environments static?

那為何人類設計的環境如此一成不變？

Nothing moves.

沒有東西會移動，

Do we realize that this also stops us from moving?

我們有發現靜態的環境 讓我們也停止移動了嗎？

Did we unlearn to deal with change?

我們有辦法反洗腦自己， 來對應環境的改變嗎？

Is this why we stopped noticing our environment?

這是我們不再從周遭 發現新事物的根本原因嗎？

And is this maybe why we don't respond to climate change,

這可能是我們不 對氣候變遷做出對策的原因嗎？

and we feel numb while this is actually happening?

因為我們對正在發生的一切都感到麻木。

Behind me, you'll see a block of concrete.

在我背後，你會看到一塊混凝土。

I don't know if you noticed it before.

我不知道你們剛有沒有發現，

But how do you feel about a block of concrete?

那我問，你們對一塊混凝土有麼感覺？

Is it necessary to feel anything at all?

有必要去感覺周遭一切嗎？

Because it's just a block of concrete.

就只是塊混凝土嘛。

We are so used to be part of a static world

我們太習慣待在混凝土主演的

with concrete as its main character.

呆板世界。

But this shouldn't be our world.

但我們的世界不該是這樣的啊。

This is how we used to think,

我們可能習慣了這樣的世界，

but this cannot be our future.

但我們的未來不能仍是這個樣子。

What can we learn if the world is not in our control?

從無法控制的世界裡我們能學到什麼？

What can we learn if we disrupt our expectations?

打亂預測之後， 我們能學到什麼？

Well, at the moment the reality is just changing here in front of you.

現在呢，你面前就有個 突破常規的物體，

Can you accept what you see?

你能接納你所看到的事物嗎？

And how does this feel?

你有什麼感覺？

Is it frightening?

你感到可怕嗎？

Or can you feel a sense of wonder for a block of concrete?

還是對混凝土的未知感到驚奇， 觸動了你的想像力？

Can you imagine there would be a moment

你能想像有一瞬間，

that you feel open

你敞開心胸，

to have a connection with a block of concrete?

跟混凝土精神連結為一嗎？

(Cheers and applause)

（歡呼、鼓掌）

How can we deal with a changing world?

在瞬息萬變的世界，我們如何自處？

Are we in control?

我們有辦法控制一切嗎？

I never felt at home in the static world.

我從來都不習慣待在靜態的世界。

And since my childhood,

從我小時候開始，

I felt that animal behavior and plant behavior

我就感覺動物和植物的行為

is way more logical than the way people behave.

比人類的行動更有邏輯。

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

As artists, we develop artworks

作為一位藝術家，我研發藝術作品，

that use movement to open us up

讓藝術作品的動作來敞開我們的心之眼，

and make us feel safe to embrace change.

並讓我們安心接納變化。

Because there is one fact.

畢竟這件事是真的：

Change is coming.

變革近在眼前，

And we are not in control.

且我們無法控制這個變革。

We are murmuring.

我們在群舞，

We are drifting.

我們在漂流。

Thank you.

謝謝。

(Cheers and applause)

（歡呼、鼓掌）

Helen Walters: So don't worry, it'll be here all session.

主持人：別擔心，它在整個 對談期間都會在這

But just ...

我們就先⋯⋯

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

Lonneke, that was amazing.

隆妮可，妳帶來的發表非常棒。

I'm really sorry, you guys.

我很抱歉，各位，

It's on its way out, it's fine.

混凝土要出去了，它不會有事。

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

Okay, so come over here.

好，麻煩你過來一下，

Just as long as we're fine, that's fine.

確保我們不會被混凝土砸到就好。

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

LG: We're safe.

講者：我們安全了。

HW: What's happening?

主持人：發生什麼事了？

LG: Well ...

講者：嗯⋯⋯

This drifter tries to find its way out.

這個漂流物正在找到自己的出路。

HW: It's trying to find its way out.

主持：它正在找自己的出路。

Is it sentient?

它有感知能力嗎？

LG: Well, it should know where it goes.

講者：嗯⋯⋯他應該知道他要往哪走，

So let's see.

看它要走去哪。

HW: No, but really, what's happening?

主持人：我認真問一下，

What is going on?

現在到底發生什麼事？

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

LG: I mean,

講者：我是說，

this is kind of magic, I would say,

這也算是種魔法吧，

and a big piece of engineering for my colleagues

同時也是一項浩大的工程， 多虧我最棒的同事和

and amazing engineers that are making this happen.

工程師們合作才得以面世。

(Applause)

（鼓掌）

Yeah.

沒錯。

HW: OK, so, with this,

主持人：好，

you basically just came to the TED stage

你現在站在 TED 講台上

and told a whole bunch of type-A people to cede control,

呼籲一大群 A 型人格 別再試著控制一切，

to like, give up control.

叫他們放棄控制。

Like, do you have any advice for how we should do that,

可不可以給我們一些建議 讓我們不要再試著控制一切？

especially when there's something concrete floating over our heads?

特別是現在有塊混凝土 飄在我們頭上的時候。

No, but like, seriously, like, your work is about trial and error.

你的作品與嘗試和修正息息相關。

It's about experimentation.

體現了實驗精神。

Do you have any tips for the rest of us?

你有小撇步可以分享給我們嗎？

I mean, not me, but these guys.

不是給我，是給觀眾。

LG: (Laughs)

講者：（笑）

Well, I think it's an illusion that we have control.

我覺得「我們有能力掌控一切」 這感覺本身就是幻覺。

And if you look at nature, you see that it's also not there.

仔細觀察大自然，你就會發現 連大自然也無法控制。

And I think we have to accept who we are,

我們要接受自己無法控制的本質，

that we are not in control and that we need to change.

我們不是能被控制的生物， 我們必須時時改變。

You know, our bodies are made to change,

人的身體正是為配合改變 而生，但我們都忘記了。

but we kind of forgot about it.

We built our safety structure around us, and we need to learn to go with it

以前，我們在自己在周圍建起安全網， 但現在該學習如何和改變共處了，

and change with it as we are changing

學習讓自己一起改變，

and this world is changing.

因為世界時時都在改變。

HW: Lonneke, thank you so much.

主持人：隆妮，謝謝。

LG: Thank you very much.

講者：謝謝。

(Applause)

（鼓掌）