A Comedian’s Take on How to Save Democracy | Jordan Klepper | TED

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When TED asked me to be a part of this democracy event,
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I was flattered.
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When they told me it was a pro-democracy event,
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I paused.
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Like, really?
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We still think this is a good idea?
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Giving everyone a voice?
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Have you talked to everyone?
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One in 10 Americans believe chocolate milk comes from brown cows.
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We want those people weighing in on foreign policy.
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Because if democracy is hearing from the voice of the people,
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consider me skeptical of that conversation.
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Because I think we're incapable of having it.
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Any conversation.
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And not just in America, globally, we're tuning people out.
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Frankly, we're bad at talking to other people.
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Didn't always used to be this way.
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In the old days, it came naturally.
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We would talk to folks, we would negotiate over food or child care.
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So your kid didn't get eaten by a bear
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or run off and invent fire.
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But since then, it's gotten harder, more difficult.
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Screens have placed an impediment between people and thought.
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Partisanship has made talking to someone outside of your own POV traumatic.
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Now, talking to somebody with a different point of view than yourself
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is to be avoided at all costs.
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It's like paying taxes.
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Like, you should do it,
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but if you can avoid it, makes you smart.
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(Laughter)
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It's an awful time for conversations,
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so much so that even right now I've opted for a lecture.
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(Laughter)
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I won't be taking questions.
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(Laughter)
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I find it easier to speak at you.
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(Laughter)
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So how did we get here?
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Well, as someone in their 40s,
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I'm legally obligated to point the finger at social media.
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The cultural conversations we have
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are dictated by the forums we have them in.
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And all those forums,
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they just push us towards short, loud outbursts.
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Maximum volume, short duration.
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Now, even right now, this TED Talk is only seven minutes.
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I remember when TED Talks used to be 18 minutes long.
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(Laughter)
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Now you have to communicate
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the economics behind climate catastrophe
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in the time it takes for a potty break.
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Not great guys, not great.
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(Laughter)
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I remember the good old days
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when TED Talks used to be “Theodore Discussions.”
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You know, a year from now, they're just going to be T's GIFs.
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(Laughter)
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So how do we get better
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at talking to one another?
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If democracy depends on discourse, on compromise,
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how do we have civil conversations?
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Well ...
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The long answer is destroy the bias of social media
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and the cesspool of misinformation
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that is propagated by the entertainment machine
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that dominates our politics and discourse.
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I could tell you how to do that,
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but TED only gave me seven minutes, so sorry.
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Maybe next time, it would have cleared everything up.
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But in the four minutes,
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wow, the four minutes we have left,
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I'll give you a few tips of what you can do now.
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So, three tips for how to be slightly better at talking to a human
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you disagree with.
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One, read a book.
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Easy.
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You know, you're not as smart as you think you are,
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get inside the head of someone else.
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And make it a long book.
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We need to expand our attention beyond just TikToks.
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Two, travel.
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Mark Twain said it best.
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You know, bias is reduced by travel.
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It's the easiest way.
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As a kid who grew up in Michigan,
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I hated Ohio.
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And then I traveled there, and you know what?
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I still hate Ohio.
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But now I know what Akron smells like.
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So I guess, progress, I think?
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And three, concede something.
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That's a biggie.
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Concession.
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You have to give something up.
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You're not as smart as you think you are.
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Concession is crucial to democracy.
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To concede comes from the Latin “consensus,”
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which means to find agreement.
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And if you challenge me on that, I would concede.
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(Laughter)
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Because I totally made that up.
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(Laughter)
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That's how this thing works, you know?
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Even upstanding, charismatic people like myself are full of shit.
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(Laughter)
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Like many of us, I find my desire to be seen as smart
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outweighs my desire to shut up when I don't know what I'm talking about.
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It's hard for Americans to shut up
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when they don't know what they're talking about.
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When you make politics a sport, then everything becomes win or lose,
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every conversation becomes a negotiation over field position.
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Our guards are up.
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We're defensive, we're afraid of getting punched in the face.
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We think our strongest weapon is our certainty.
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But the most relatable thing about us is our failure.
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Has no one here been to therapy?
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It's all there.
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And democracy in a bipartisan country
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is like a marriage.
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And in America,
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we are at the couple's counseling phase.
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America, you've made some mistakes.
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Republicans, maybe vaccines aren't the work of the devil.
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Democrats,
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maybe Portland does suck.
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(Laughter)
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Canada, Canada, it's 2023,
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you can’t call your police “Mounties.”
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Alright?
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We're imperfect, we have to accept that.
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It's hard to say you don't know.
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But it can also be liberating.
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Like, I don't know how to throw away batteries, I don't.
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(Laughter)
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I don't know what "40 percent chance of rain" means.
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Does it mean it's 40 percent chance it will rain
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or that it’s going to rain, only 40 percent chance as hard?
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I don't know, I don't know, I don't,
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but it's liberating.
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We need to, we need to concede a little on everything.
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Except for gun safety reform.
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That's a no-brainer.
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But everything else --
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And climate.
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See, it's tough.
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(Laughter)
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It's hard, it's hard.
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We're not very good at it.
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It's not popular to concede.
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In America, there's a big chunk of the population right now
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who hasn't conceded the last presidential election.
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It's hard to give any ground when you can't agree
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that the Earth you stand on is either round or flat.
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But, but, perhaps a gesture of understanding,
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if not towards irrefutable facts,
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but to your own uncertainty
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is a step towards progress.
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I think the phrase “I don’t know” invites a softening,
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and the ground is too hard to grow much of anything right now.
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What I think, in order for American democracy to survive,
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we need a culture of vulnerability,
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or at least a space in that culture for vulnerability.
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The good news is, being wrong is sexy.
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Failure is an aphrodisiac.
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Every person who has ever loved me has told me how much of a loser I am.
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(Laughter)
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The proof is in the pudding.
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And if conceding is too much for you,
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if that feels weak, OK, don't think of it as conceding.
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Think of it as gamesmanship.
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You're setting a trap.
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Trap them with your vulnerability.
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(Laughter)
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Hypnotize them with your humility.
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Distract them with your failure.
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And as they begin to reveal themselves to you in your uncertainty,
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smash those fools.
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(Laughter)
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In the game of democracy, in order to win,
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we may have to start with a loss.
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But what do I know?
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I could be wrong.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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