What Makes Someone Vote Against Their Political Party? | Sarah Longwell | TED

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ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุฃุฏู†ุงู‡ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ.

ุงู„ู…ุชุฑุฌู…: gaith Takrity ุงู„ู…ุฏู‚ู‘ู‚: Mohamed Salem
00:03
Hi, guys!
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ู…ุฑุญุจุงู‹ ูŠุง ุดุจุงุจ!
00:04
I'm Sarah Longwell,
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ุฃู†ุง ุณุงุฑุฉ ู„ูˆู†ุบูˆูŠู„ุŒ
00:06
and my favorite TV show is "Survivor."
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ูˆุจุฑู†ุงู…ุฌูŠ ุงู„ุชู„ูุฒูŠูˆู†ูŠ ุงู„ู…ูุถู„ ู‡ูˆ ยซุงู„ู…ู†ู‚ุฐยป.
00:08
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
00:09
Now, you know this show,
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ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ุชุนุฑููˆู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุนุฑุถุŒ
00:11
it's the one where they take a bunch of people,
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ุฅู†ู‡ ุงู„ุจุฑู†ุงู…ุฌ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุฃุฎุฐูˆู† ููŠู‡ ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณุŒ
00:13
put them on a desert island,
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ูˆูŠุถุนูˆู†ู‡ู… ููŠ ุฌุฒูŠุฑุฉ ุตุญุฑุงูˆูŠุฉุŒ
00:14
they make them make fire and, like, houses,
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ูˆูŠุฌุนู„ูˆู†ู‡ู… ูŠุดุนู„ูˆู† ุงู„ู†ุงุฑุŒ ูˆูŠุตู†ุนูˆู† ุงู„ู…ู†ุงุฒู„ุŒ
00:18
or, like, a shelter.
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ุฃูˆุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุณุจูŠู„ ุงู„ู…ุซุงู„ุŒ ุงู„ู…ุฃูˆู‰.
00:19
And they make them a tribe.
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ูˆูŠุฌุนู„ูˆู†ู‡ู… ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉ.
00:21
And then, every week, they vote somebody out of the tribe.
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ูˆุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ูƒู„ ุฃุณุจูˆุนุŒ ูŠุตูˆุชูˆู† ู„ุดุฎุต ุฎุงุฑุฌ ุงู„ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉ.
00:25
This show's been on for, like, 45 seasons.
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ุงุณุชู…ุฑ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุนุฑุถ ู„ู…ุง ูŠู‚ุฑุจ ู…ู† 45 ู…ูˆุณู…ู‹ุง.
00:27
There's versions of it in 50 different countries.
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฅุตุฏุงุฑุงุช ู…ู†ู‡ ููŠ 50 ุฏูˆู„ุฉ ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ.
00:31
And I think the reason that this show is so popular and enduring
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ูˆุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ุงู„ุณุจุจ ูˆุฑุงุก ุดู‡ุฑุฉ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุนุฑุถ ูˆุงุณุชู…ุฑุงุฑู‡
00:35
is because we can all really relate to that anxiety
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ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฌู…ูŠุนู‹ุง ุฃู† ู†ุชุนุงู…ู„ ุญู‚ู‹ุง ู…ุน ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู‚ู„ู‚
00:39
of being rejected by our tribe.
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ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑูุถ ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู‚ุจูŠู„ุชู†ุง.
00:42
Now, social scientists, anthropologists, people who study people,
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ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ุนู„ู…ุงุก ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุน ูˆุนู„ู…ุงุก ุงู„ุฃู†ุซุฑูˆุจูˆู„ูˆุฌูŠุง ูˆุงู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูŠุฏุฑุณูˆู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณุŒ
00:45
they will tell us that there is nothing more traumatic for a human
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ุณูŠุฎุจุฑูˆู†ู†ุง ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุดูŠุก ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุตุฏู…ุฉ ู„ู„ุฅู†ุณุงู†
00:50
than getting kicked out of their tribe.
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ู…ู† ุทุฑุฏู‡ ู…ู† ู‚ุจูŠู„ุชู‡.
00:53
We all want to fit in,
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ู†ุฑูŠุฏ ุฌู…ูŠุนู‹ุง ุฃู† ู†ุชุฃู‚ู„ู…ุŒ
00:55
we all crave community and belonging.
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ูˆูƒู„ู†ุง ู†ุชูˆู‚ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ูˆุงู„ุงู†ุชู…ุงุก.
00:59
We've had tribal instincts for as long as we've been around.
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ูƒุงู†ุช ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุบุฑุงุฆุฒ ู‚ุจู„ูŠุฉ ุทุงู„ู…ุง ูƒู†ุง ู…ูˆุฌูˆุฏูŠู†.
01:04
Right? Humans have.
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ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ ุงู„ุจุดุฑ ู„ุฏูŠู‡ู….
01:05
It's hardwired in there,
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ุฅู†ู‡ ู…ุชุฃุตู„ ู‡ู†ุงูƒุŒ
01:07
as part of our survival instincts,
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ูƒุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุบุฑุงุฆุฒ ุงู„ุจู‚ุงุก ุนู„ู‰ ู‚ูŠุฏ ุงู„ุญูŠุงุฉุŒ
01:09
so we don't get eaten by lions or bears.
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ุญุชู‰ ู„ุง ุชุฃูƒู„ู†ุง ุงู„ุฃุณูˆุฏ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุฏุจุจุฉ.
01:13
And right now, our politics is defined by partisan tribalism.
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ูˆุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ูŠุชู… ุชุนุฑูŠู ุณูŠุงุณุชู†ุง ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุงู„ู‚ุจู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุญุฒุจูŠุฉ.
01:20
Now, the nice people at TED ...
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ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ุงู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุงู„ู„ุทูŠููˆู† ููŠ TED...
01:23
when they asked me to give this talk,
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุทู„ุจูˆุง ู…ู†ูŠ ุฅู„ู‚ุงุก ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซุŒ
01:24
they gave me the topic "Democracy over party,"
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ุฃุนุทูˆู†ูŠ ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ยซุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุญุฒุจยปุŒ
01:28
which essentially means asking people to go against their tribe.
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ู…ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃุณุงุณู‹ุง ู…ุทุงู„ุจุฉ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุจุงู„ูˆู‚ูˆู ุถุฏ ู‚ุจูŠู„ุชู‡ู….
01:32
And I rejected this topic, at first -- I didn't want to do it,
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ูˆุฑูุถุช ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุนุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ุจุฏุงูŠุฉ -- ู„ู… ุฃุฑุบุจ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฐู„ูƒุŒ
01:36
because I've listened to thousands of American voters,
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ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุงุณุชู…ุนุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุขู„ุงู ุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูŠู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒูŠูŠู†ุŒ
01:40
and I know that they don't feel nearly the connection to democracy
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ูˆุฃู†ุง ุฃุนู„ู… ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู„ุง ูŠุดุนุฑูˆู† ุชู‚ุฑูŠุจู‹ุง ุจุงู„ุงุฑุชุจุงุท ุจุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ
01:44
that they do to their political team,
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ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุดุนุฑูˆู† ุจู‡ ุจูุฑูŠู‚ู‡ู… ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠุŒ
01:46
their partisan tribe.
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ู‚ุจูŠู„ุชู‡ู… ุงู„ุญุฒุจูŠุฉ.
01:48
In fact, in America, most voters don't think about democracy at all.
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ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุนุŒ ููŠ ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุงุŒ ู„ุง ูŠููƒุฑ ู…ุนุธู… ุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูŠู† ููŠ ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฅุทู„ุงู‚.
01:54
I learned this one the hard way, back in 2018.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุชุนู„ู…ุช ู‡ุฐุง ุจุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุตุนุจุฉุŒ ููŠ ุนุงู… 2018.
01:57
I was just your average, traditional lesbian Republican ...
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ูƒู†ุช ู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠุฉ ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠุฉ ู…ุซู„ูŠุฉ ุนุงุฏูŠุฉ...
02:00
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
02:01
And I was super alarmed
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ูˆูƒู†ุช
02:03
by what Donald Trump was doing to my party.
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ู…ู†ุฒุนุฌู‹ุฉ ุฌุฏู‹ุง ู…ู…ุง ูƒุงู† ูŠูุนู„ู‡ ุฏูˆู†ุงู„ุฏ ุชุฑุงู…ุจ ุจุญุฒุจูŠ.
02:06
And so I thought somebody should primary him.
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ูˆู„ุฐุง ุงุนุชู‚ุฏุช ุฃู† ุดุฎุตู‹ุง ู…ุง ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ู‡ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ูˆูŠุฉ.
02:09
And so I was running around,
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ูˆู‡ูƒุฐุง ูƒู†ุช ุฃุฑูƒุถ ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุฑุฌุงุกุŒ
02:10
talking to a governor and some congressmen,
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ูˆุฃุชุญุฏุซ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญุงูƒู… ูˆุจุนุถ ุฃุนุถุงุก ุงู„ูƒูˆู†ุบุฑุณุŒ
02:12
some other people,
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ูˆุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุงู„ุขุฎุฑูŠู†ุŒ
02:14
and I was like, "You've got to primary this guy."
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ูˆู‚ู„ุช : ยซุนู„ูŠูƒ ุฃู† ุชุถุน ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฑุฌู„ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฑุชุจุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰.ยป
02:16
But they all wanted to know one thing:
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ู„ูƒู†ู‡ู… ุฌู…ูŠุนู‹ุง ุฃุฑุงุฏูˆุง ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุดูŠุก ูˆุงุญุฏ:
02:18
if they ran a primary against Trump, could they win?
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ุฅุฐุง ุฎุงุถูˆุง ุงู„ุงู†ุชุฎุงุจุงุช ุงู„ุชู…ู‡ูŠุฏูŠุฉ ุถุฏ ุชุฑุงู…ุจุŒ ูู‡ู„ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู‡ู… ุงู„ููˆุฒุŸ
02:22
So I started doing a bunch of polling and focus groups
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุจุฏุฃุช ููŠ ุฅุฌุฑุงุก ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู…ู† ุงุณุชุทู„ุงุนุงุช ุงู„ุฑุฃูŠ ูˆู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุงุช ุงู„ุชุฑูƒูŠุฒ
02:25
so I could go make the case, to these potential candidates,
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ุญุชู‰ ุฃุชู…ูƒู† ู…ู† ุฅุซุจุงุชุŒ ู„ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ู…ุฑุดุญูŠู† ุงู„ู…ุญุชู…ู„ูŠู†ุŒ
02:28
that, of course, Republicans wanted an alternative to Trump.
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ุฃู† ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู† ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ูŠุฑูŠุฏูˆู† ุจุฏูŠู„ุงู‹ ู„ุชุฑุงู…ุจ.
02:33
Of course they thought that he was a threat to democracy.
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ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ุงุนุชู‚ุฏูˆุง ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠุดูƒู„ ุชู‡ุฏูŠุฏู‹ุง ู„ู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ.
02:36
Of course they were up for putting democracy over party.
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ุจุงู„ุทุจุน ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ู…ุณุชุนุฏูŠู† ู„ูˆุถุน ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญุฒุจ.
02:40
Nope.
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ูƒู„ุง.
02:42
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
02:44
Not at all.
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ู„ุง ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฅุทู„ุงู‚.
02:46
They liked Trump fine.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุฃุญุจูˆุง ุชุฑุงู…ุจ ุฌูŠุฏู‹ุง.
02:47
They thought he was funny,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุงุนุชู‚ุฏูˆุง ุฃู†ู‡ ู…ุถุญูƒุŒ
02:49
they thought he was a good businessman,
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ูˆุงุนุชู‚ุฏูˆุง ุฃู†ู‡ ุฑุฌู„ ุฃุนู…ุงู„ ุฌูŠุฏุŒ
02:51
they liked it that he โ€œtold it like it wasโ€
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ูˆุฃุญุจูˆุง ุฃู†ู‡ ยซู‚ุงู„ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ูƒู…ุง ูƒุงู†ยป
02:53
and that he wasn't a regular politician.
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ูˆุฃู†ู‡ ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ุณูŠุงุณูŠู‹ุง ุนุงุฏูŠู‹ุง.
02:56
And I was so startled by how immune these voters seemed
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ูˆู‚ุฏ ุงู†ุฏู‡ุดุช ุฌุฏู‹ุง ู…ู† ู…ุฏู‰ ุญุตุงู†ุฉ ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูŠู†
03:00
to Trump's antidemocratic behavior
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ู…ู† ุณู„ูˆูƒ ุชุฑุงู…ุจ ุบูŠุฑ ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠ
03:02
that I started doing focus groups all the time,
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ู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุจุฏุฃุช ููŠ ุฅู†ุดุงุก ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุงุช ุจุญุซุŒ
03:04
because I was like, "I've got to figure out what is going on."
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ู„ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ูƒู†ุช ุฃู‚ูˆู„: ยซูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุฃูƒุชุดู ู…ุง ูŠุฌุฑูŠ.ยป
03:07
Polling is whatever,
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ุงู„ุงู‚ุชุฑุงุน ู‡ูˆ ุฃูŠ ุดูŠุกุŒ
03:09
but the thing that I like about focus groups
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุนุฌุจู†ูŠ ููŠ ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุงุช ุงู„ุชุฑูƒูŠุฒ
03:11
is you learn as much from what voters don't say as what they do say.
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ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ูƒ ุชุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู…ุง ู„ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„ู‡ ุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูˆู† ุจู‚ุฏุฑ ู…ุง ุชุชุนู„ู… ู…ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„ูˆู†ู‡.
03:14
I have never heard a voter say,
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ู„ู… ุฃุณู…ุน ุฃุจุฏู‹ุง ู†ุงุฎุจู‹ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„
03:16
"Boy, I really like Trump, because he has authoritarian vibes."
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ยซูŠุง ูุชู‰ุŒ ุฃู†ุง ุญู‚ู‹ุง ุฃุญุจ ุชุฑุงู…ุจุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠุชู…ุชุน ุจู…ุดุงุนุฑ ุงุณุชุจุฏุงุฏูŠุฉยป.
03:19
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
03:21
They just don't care about the antidemocratic behavior,
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ุฅู†ู‡ู… ูู‚ุท ู„ุง ูŠู‡ุชู…ูˆู† ุจุงู„ุณู„ูˆูƒ ุงู„ู…ุนุงุฏูŠ ู„ู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉุŒ
03:26
or they don't even clock that it's antidemocratic.
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ุฃูˆ ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู„ุง ูŠุนุฑููˆู† ุญุชู‰ ุฃู†ู‡ ุบูŠุฑ ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠ.
03:29
Trump praises dictators?
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ุชุฑุงู…ุจ ูŠุดูŠุฏ ุจุงู„ุฏูŠูƒุชุงุชูˆุฑูŠูŠู†ุŸ
03:31
OK.
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ู…ูˆุงูู‚.
03:33
He hijacks American foreign policy for his own political purposes
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ูŠุฎุทู ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณุฉ ุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒูŠุฉ ู„ุฃุบุฑุงุถู‡ ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฎุงุตุฉ
03:36
and gets impeached for it?
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ูˆูŠุชู… ุนุฒู„ู‡ ุจุณุจุจ ุฐู„ูƒุŸ
03:38
They don't care.
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ุฅู†ู‡ู… ู„ุง ูŠู‡ุชู…ูˆู†.
03:39
He uses the White House to enrich himself and his family?
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ูŠุณุชุฎุฏู… ุงู„ุจูŠุช ุงู„ุฃุจูŠุถ ู„ุฅุซุฑุงุก ู†ูุณู‡ ูˆุนุงุฆู„ุชู‡ุŸ
03:43
Not worried about it.
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ู„ุง ุชู‚ู„ู‚ ุจุดุฃู† ุฐู„ูƒ.
03:45
Trump's a member of their tribe.
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ุชุฑุงู…ุจ ุนุถูˆ ููŠ ู‚ุจูŠู„ุชู‡ู….
03:47
Right? So he gets the benefit of the doubt.
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ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูŠุณุชููŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ุดูƒ.
03:50
Even Republican voters who didn't like Trump,
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ุญุชู‰ ุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูŠู† ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู† ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู„ู… ูŠุนุฌุจู‡ู… ุชุฑุงู…ุจุŒ
03:54
even they still recoiled at direct attacks on him,
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ุญุชู‰ ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู…ุง ุฒุงู„ูˆุง ูŠุชุฑุงุฌุนูˆู† ุนู† ุงู„ู‡ุฌู…ุงุช ุงู„ู…ุจุงุดุฑุฉ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุŒ
03:58
especially if those attacks were coming from outside the tribe.
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ุฎุงุตุฉ ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู†ุช ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู‡ุฌู…ุงุช ุชุฃุชูŠ ู…ู† ุฎุงุฑุฌ ุงู„ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉ.
04:03
Right? They're coming from ...
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ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ ุฅู†ู‡ู… ู‚ุงุฏู…ูˆู† ู…ู†...
04:05
"the deep state, the media, Democrats --
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ยซุงู„ุฏูˆู„ุฉ ุงู„ุนู…ูŠู‚ุฉุŒ ูˆูˆุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุฅุนู„ุงู…ุŒ ูˆุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠูˆู† --
04:10
Never Trumpers like me.โ€
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ู„ูŠุณ ู…ู† ู…ุญุจูŠ ุชุฑุงู…ุจ ู…ุซู„ูŠ.ยป
04:12
So, primary is off the table, we're not doing that.
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ู„ุฐุงุŒ ุงู„ุงู†ุชุฎุงุจุงุช ุงู„ุชู…ู‡ูŠุฏูŠุฉ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุทุฑูˆุญุฉุŒ ูˆู†ุญู† ู„ุง ู†ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ.
04:16
So we had to figure out how to beat Trump in the general election.
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒุงู† ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ูƒูŠููŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุบู„ุจ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุฑุงู…ุจ ููŠ ุงู„ุงู†ุชุฎุงุจุงุช ุงู„ุนุงู…ุฉ.
04:19
And I knew that meant
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ูˆุนุฑูุช ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ
04:21
building the necessary permission structures
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ุจู†ุงุก ู‡ูŠุงูƒู„ ุงู„ุฃุฐูˆู†ุงุช ุงู„ู„ุงุฒู…ุฉ
04:24
to help disaffected Republicans break from their tribe
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ู„ู…ุณุงุนุฏุฉ ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู† ุงู„ุณุงุฎุทูŠู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงู†ูุตุงู„ ุนู† ู‚ุจูŠู„ุชู‡ู…
04:29
and vote against Trump.
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ูˆุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ุถุฏ ุชุฑุงู…ุจ.
04:30
That's how we were going to make the margins.
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ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุณู†ุญู‚ู‚ ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ู‡ูˆุงู…ุด.
04:32
And to do that, I knew we needed trusted messengers, right?
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ูˆู„ู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฐู„ูƒุŒ ูƒู†ุช ุฃุนุฑู ุฃู†ู†ุง ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฑุณู„ ู…ูˆุซูˆู‚ ุจู‡ู…ุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ
04:36
Messengers that these folks trusted.
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ุงู„ุฑุณู„ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูˆุซู‚ ุจู‡ู… ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุณ.
04:39
The problem was they didn't trust anybody.
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ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ู‡ูŠ ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู„ู… ูŠุซู‚ูˆุง ุจุฃูŠ ุดุฎุต.
04:42
They didn't trust institutions or experts,
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ู„ู… ูŠุซู‚ูˆุง ุจุงู„ู…ุคุณุณุงุช ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุฎุจุฑุงุกุŒ
04:45
they didn't even trust Republican politicians.
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ูˆู„ู… ูŠุซู‚ูˆุง ุญุชู‰ ุจุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠูŠู† ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู†.
04:48
But then, we had a little bit of a breakthrough.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ุญู‚ู‚ู†ุง ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุชู‚ุฏู….
04:50
So in the focus groups,
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ููŠ ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุงุช ุงู„ุชุฑูƒูŠุฒุŒ
04:52
we started showing people video testimonials.
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ุจุฏุฃู†ุง ููŠ ุนุฑุถ ุดู‡ุงุฏุงุช ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู„ู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต.
04:55
Little videos, just of regular people, Republicans,
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ุฃุดุฑุทุฉ ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ุตุบูŠุฑุฉุŒ ูู‚ุท ู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุนุงุฏูŠูŠู†ุŒ ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู†ุŒ
04:59
talking about why they couldn't vote for Trump,
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ูŠุชุญุฏุซูˆู† ุนู† ุณุจุจ ุนุฏู… ุชู…ูƒู†ู‡ู… ู…ู† ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ู„ุชุฑุงู…ุจุŒ
05:01
again, in 2020.
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ู…ุฑุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ููŠ ุนุงู… 2020.
05:03
And suddenly, people were listening.
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ูˆูุฌุฃุฉุŒ ูƒุงู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูŠุณุชู…ุนูˆู†.
05:06
Because it turns out the one group they do trust ...
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ุงุชุถุญ ุฃู† ุงู„ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ุงู„ูˆุญูŠุฏุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุซู‚ูˆู† ุจู‡ุง...
05:10
is people like them.
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ู‡ูˆ ุฃุดุฎุงุต ู…ุซู„ู‡ู….
05:12
Right?
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ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ
05:13
Members of their tribe
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ุฃูุฑุงุฏ ู‚ุจูŠู„ุชู‡ู…
05:15
who don't claim any special knowledge or expertise.
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ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู„ุง ูŠุฏุนูˆู† ุฃูŠ ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุฃูˆ ุฎุจุฑุฉ ุฎุงุตุฉ.
05:20
So once we realized this,
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุจู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุฏุฑูƒู†ุง ุฐู„ูƒุŒ
05:22
we started asking Republicans who didn't want to vote for Trump in 2020
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ุจุฏุฃู†ุง ู†ุทู„ุจ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู† ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู„ู… ูŠุฑุบุจูˆุง ููŠ ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ู„ุชุฑุงู…ุจ ููŠ ุนุงู… 2020
05:26
to send us their stories, to send us more of these videos.
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ุฃู† ูŠุฑุณู„ูˆุง ู„ู†ุง ู‚ุตุตู‡ู…ุŒ ู„ุฅุฑุณุงู„ ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ู…ู† ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุฅู„ูŠู†ุง.
05:29
God, it was easier, because it was the pandemic,
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ูŠุง ุฅู„ู‡ูŠุŒ ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุฃุณู‡ู„ุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ูƒุงู† ุงู„ูˆุจุงุกุŒ
05:31
and so lots of people, they'd make the videos on their phone.
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ูˆุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณุŒ ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ูŠุตู†ุนูˆู† ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ูˆุงุชูู‡ู….
05:34
But actually, it was really hard, at first.
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ู„ูƒู† ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุนุŒ ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุตุนุจู‹ุง ุญู‚ู‹ุงุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ุจุฏุงูŠุฉ.
05:37
People were nervous
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ูƒุงู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ู…ุชูˆุชุฑูŠู†
05:39
about saying they weren't going to vote for Trump publicly.
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ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุฅู†ู‡ู… ู„ู† ูŠุตูˆุชูˆุง ู„ุชุฑุงู…ุจ ุนู„ู†ู‹ุง.
05:42
They didn't want their neighbors to find out,
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ู„ู… ูŠุฑุบุจูˆุง ููŠ ุฃู† ูŠูƒุชุดู ุฌูŠุฑุงู†ู‡ู… ุฐู„ูƒุŒ
05:44
they didn't want their spouse to find out,
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ูˆู„ู… ูŠุฑุบุจูˆุง ููŠ ุฃู† ูŠูƒุชุดู ุฒูˆุฌู‡ู… ุฐู„ูƒุŒ
05:47
they didn't want their parents to find out,
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ูˆู„ู… ูŠุฑุบุจูˆุง ููŠ ุฃู† ูŠูƒุชุดู ุขุจุงุคู‡ู… ุฐู„ูƒุŒ
05:49
because that's what tribalism does, right?
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ู„ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ุชูุนู„ู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุจู„ูŠุฉุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ
05:51
It makes us afraid to go against our tribe.
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ูŠุฌุนู„ู†ุง ู†ุฎุดู‰ ู…ูˆุงุฌู‡ุฉ ู‚ุจูŠู„ุชู†ุง.
05:54
So we fought really hard, scrapped, for the first 100.
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ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ู‚ุงุชู„ู†ุง ุจุดุฏุฉุŒ ูˆุฃู„ุบูŠู†ุงุŒ ู„ุฃูˆู„ 100.
05:58
But once we had the first 100, we knew we had a new tribe.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ุจู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุญุตูˆู„ู†ุง ุนู„ู‰ ุฃูˆู„ 100 ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉุŒ ุนู„ู…ู†ุง ุฃู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉ ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ.
06:02
We called it "Republican Voters Against Trump."
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ุฃุทู„ู‚ู†ุง ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง ุงุณู… ยซุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูˆู† ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูˆู† ุถุฏ ุชุฑุงู…ุจยป.
06:05
People could maintain their Republican identity.
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ูŠู…ูƒู† ู„ู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุญูุงุธ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ูˆูŠุชู‡ู… ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠุฉ.
06:08
So once we launched Republican Voters Against Trump,
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ุจู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุทู„ู‚ู†ุง ยซุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูˆู† ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูˆู† ุถุฏ ุชุฑุงู…ุจยปุŒ
06:11
went public with it,
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ูˆุชู… ุงู„ุฅุนู„ุงู† ุนู†ู‡ุงุŒ
06:12
all of a sudden, testimonials came flooding in, unsolicited,
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ูˆูุฌุฃุฉุŒ ุชุฏูู‚ุช ุงู„ุดู‡ุงุฏุงุชุŒ ุฏูˆู† ุทู„ุจุŒ
06:16
because there were lots of people who felt this way.
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ู„ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃุดุฎุงุต ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ุดุนุฑูˆุง ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ.
06:18
They just needed a tribe to attach to,
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุงุญุชุงุฌูˆุง ูู‚ุท ุฅู„ู‰ ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉ ู„ู„ุชุนู„ู‚ ุจู‡ุงุŒ
06:20
to feel safe, to feel secure.
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ูˆุงู„ุดุนูˆุฑ ุจุงู„ุฃู…ุงู†ุŒ ูˆุงู„ุดุนูˆุฑ ุจุงู„ุฃู…ุงู†.
06:23
There is a reason the phrase "safety in numbers" is a clichรฉ.
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ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุณุจุจ ู„ูƒูˆู† ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ยซุงู„ุฃู…ุงู† ููŠ ุงู„ุฃุฑู‚ุงู…ยป ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ู…ุจุชุฐู„ุฉ.
06:28
But here's the thing.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุดูŠุก.
06:30
None of these testimonials mentioned democracy.
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ู„ู… ุชุฐูƒุฑ ุฃูŠ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุดู‡ุงุฏุงุช ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ.
06:34
Instead,
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ุจุฏู„ุงู‹ ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒุŒ
06:35
they talked about why they became Republicans in the first place.
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ุชุญุฏุซูˆุง ุนู† ุณุจุจ ุชุญูˆู„ู‡ู… ุฅู„ู‰ ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู† ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงู… ุงู„ุฃูˆู„.
06:38
What their values were.
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ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ู‚ูŠู…ู‡ู….
06:41
And why those values meant they couldn't vote for Donald Trump.
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ูˆู„ู…ุงุฐุง ุชุนู†ูŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู‚ูŠู… ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู„ุง ูŠุณุชุทูŠุนูˆู† ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ู„ุฏูˆู†ุงู„ุฏ ุชุฑุงู…ุจ.
06:45
They also talked a lot about how painful it was going to be
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ูƒู…ุง ุชุญุฏุซูˆุง ูƒุซูŠุฑู‹ุง ุนู† ู…ุฏู‰ ุงู„ุฃู„ู… ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุณูŠูƒูˆู† ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ู„ุตุงู„ุญ ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠูŠู†.
06:47
to vote for Democrats.
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06:49
They really didn't want to do that.
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ู„ู… ูŠุฑุบุจูˆุง ุญู‚ู‹ุง ููŠ ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ.
06:51
But they did.
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ู„ูƒู†ู‡ู… ูุนู„ูˆุง ุฐู„ูƒ.
06:53
But none of them said
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ู„ูƒู† ู„ู… ูŠู‚ู„ ุฃูŠ ู…ู†ู‡ู…
06:54
that they were doing it to put democracy over party.
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ุฃู†ู‡ู… ูŠูุนู„ูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู„ูˆุถุน ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญุฒุจ.
06:58
But that's exactly what they did,
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ู„ูƒู† ู‡ุฐุง ุจุงู„ุถุจุท ู…ุง ูุนู„ูˆู‡ุŒ
07:00
when they broke from their tribe
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ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุงู†ูุตู„ูˆุง ุนู† ู‚ุจูŠู„ุชู‡ู…
07:02
and voted against a president who was a threat to democracy.
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ูˆุตูˆุชูˆุง ุถุฏ ุฑุฆูŠุณ ูƒุงู† ูŠุดูƒู„ ุชู‡ุฏูŠุฏู‹ุง ู„ู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ.
07:08
Now I know you're thinking,
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ุงู„ุขู† ุฃุนู„ู… ุฃู†ูƒ ุชููƒุฑุŒ
07:09
"OK, Sarah, but that's 2020. What about 2022?
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ยซุญุณู†ู‹ุงุŒ ุณุงุฑุฉุŒ ู„ูƒู† ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุนุงู… 2020. ู…ุงุฐุง ุนู† ุนุงู… 2022ุŸ
07:12
After the attack on the Capitol,
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ุจุนุฏ ุงู„ู‡ุฌูˆู… ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุจู†ู‰ ุงู„ูƒุงุจูŠุชูˆู„ุŒ
07:14
and when there are a bunch of Republican candidates
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ูˆุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชูƒูˆู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุฑุดุญูŠู† ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู† ุงู„ุฐูŠู†
07:17
running on platforms
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ูŠุชุฑุดุญูˆู† ุนู„ู‰ ู…ู†ุตุงุช
07:18
saying that the election was stolen?"
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ูŠู‚ูˆู„ูˆู† ุฅู† ุงู„ุงู†ุชุฎุงุจุงุช ู‚ุฏ ุณูุฑู‚ุชุŸยป
07:21
Not really.
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ู„ูŠุณ ุญู‚ู‹ุง.
07:22
Some Democrats talked about democracy,
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ุชุญุฏุซ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠูŠู† ุนู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉุŒ
07:24
but swing voters,
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ู„ูƒู† ุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูŠู† ุงู„ู…ุชุฃุฑุฌุญูŠู†ุŒ
07:26
the ones that were going to make up the margins,
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ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ุณูŠุดูƒู„ูˆู† ุงู„ู‡ูˆุงู…ุดุŒ
07:28
they never talked about democracy in the focus groups.
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ู„ู… ูŠุชุญุฏุซูˆุง ุฃุจุฏู‹ุง ุนู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ููŠ ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุงุช ุงู„ุชุฑูƒูŠุฒ.
07:31
What they did talk about
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ู…ุง ุชุญุฏุซูˆุง ุนู†ู‡
07:32
was that they didn't want to vote for Republicans
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ู‡ูˆ ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู„ู… ูŠุฑุบุจูˆุง ููŠ ุงู„ุชุตูˆูŠุช ู„ู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู†
07:35
because they were too extreme.
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ู… ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ู…ุชุทุฑููŠู† ู„ู„ุบุงูŠุฉ.
07:37
Mainly on abortion.
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ุจุดูƒู„ ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠ ุญูˆู„ ุงู„ุฅุฌู‡ุงุถ.
07:39
They didn't think they were a threat to democracy.
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ู„ู… ูŠุนุชู‚ุฏูˆุง ุฃู†ู‡ู… ูŠุดูƒู„ูˆู† ุชู‡ุฏูŠุฏู‹ุง ู„ู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ.
07:42
They just thought they were nuts.
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ู„ู‚ุฏ ุงุนุชู‚ุฏูˆุง ูู‚ุท ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู…ุฌุงู†ูŠู†.
07:44
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
07:46
But here's the thing.
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ูˆู„ูƒู† ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุดูŠุก.
07:48
Just because voters donโ€™t talk about democracy
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ูู‚ุท ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูŠู† ู„ุง ูŠุชุญุฏุซูˆู† ุนู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ
07:52
doesn't mean they don't understand and value democracy.
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ู„ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู„ุง ูŠูู‡ู…ูˆู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ูˆู„ุง ูŠู‚ุฏุฑูˆู†ู‡ุง.
07:57
It's just that, in America,
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ูƒู„ ู…ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุฃู†
07:59
democracy's like the air we breathe, right?
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ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ููŠ ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุง ู…ุซู„ ุงู„ู‡ูˆุงุก ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู†ุชู†ูุณู‡ุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ
08:02
It's just that thing we do here.
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ุฅู†ู‡ ูู‚ุท ุงู„ุดูŠุก ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ ู‡ู†ุง.
08:05
And it's so ingrained in who we are
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ูˆู‡ูˆ ู…ุชุฃุตู„ ุฌุฏู‹ุง ููŠ ู‡ูˆูŠุชู†ุง ู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ
08:08
that it's really hard to see when it's under threat.
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ุฃู†ู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ุตุนุจ ุญู‚ู‹ุง ุฑุคูŠุฉ ู…ุชู‰ ูŠูƒูˆู† ุชุญุช ุงู„ุชู‡ุฏูŠุฏ.
08:10
And that's why we can't just say "democracy"
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ูˆู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุณุจุจ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ูู‚ุท ุฃู† ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ยซุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉยป
08:14
and expect everybody's going to have a shared understanding of what that is
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ูˆู†ุชูˆู‚ุน ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู„ุฏู‰ ุงู„ุฌู…ูŠุน ูู‡ู… ู…ุดุชุฑูƒ ู„ู…ุงู‡ูŠุฉ ุฐู„ูƒ
08:17
and know what we're talking about.
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ูˆู…ุนุฑูุฉ ู…ุง ู†ุชุญุฏุซ ุนู†ู‡.
08:19
Right now, if you talked to a Republican, and you said,
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ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ุฅุฐุง ุชุญุฏุซุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู†ุŒ ูˆู‚ู„ุชุŒ
08:22
"What's the biggest threat to democracy?"
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ยซู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃูƒุจุฑ ุชู‡ุฏูŠุฏ ู„ู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉุŸยป
08:24
theyโ€™d tell you, โ€œDemocrats, because they rigged the 2020 election.โ€
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ุณูŠู‚ูˆู„ูˆู† ู„ูƒุŒ ยซุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠูˆู†ุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู‚ุงู…ูˆุง ุจุชุฒูˆูŠุฑ ุงู†ุชุฎุงุจุงุช ุนุงู… 2020".
08:28
If you talked to a Democrat
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ุฅุฐุง ุชุญุฏุซุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠ
08:30
and said, "What's the biggest threat to democracy?"
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ูˆู‚ู„ุชุŒ ยซู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃูƒุจุฑ ุชู‡ุฏูŠุฏ ู„ู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉุŸยป
08:33
they'd tell you it's Republicans,
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ุณูŠู‚ูˆู„ูˆู† ู„ูƒ ุฅู†ู‡ู… ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูˆู†ุŒ
08:35
because they attacked the Capitol
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู‡ุงุฌู…ูˆุง ู…ุจู†ู‰ ุงู„ูƒุงุจูŠุชูˆู„
08:36
and denied the election results in 2020.
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ูˆู†ููˆุง ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ุงู„ุงู†ุชุฎุงุจุงุช ููŠ ุนุงู… 2020.
08:39
But this doesn't mean we should stop talking about democracy.
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ู„ูƒู† ู‡ุฐุง ู„ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู†ู†ุง ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ุชูˆู‚ู ุนู† ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ุนู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ.
08:42
On the contrary,
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุนูƒุณ ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒุŒ
08:44
we need to talk about democracy better.
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ู†ุญู† ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชุญุฏุซ ุนู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุจุดูƒู„ ุฃูุถู„.
08:46
[If] weโ€™re going to ask people to put democracy over party,
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[ุฅุฐุง] ุณู†ุทู„ุจ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูˆุถุน ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญุฒุจุŒ
08:50
then we better explain to people what democracy is and why it's good.
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ูู…ู† ุงู„ุฃูุถู„ ุฃู† ู†ุดุฑุญ ู„ู„ู†ุงุณ ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ูˆู„ู…ุงุฐุง ู‡ูŠ ุฌูŠุฏุฉ.
08:55
Why the things that make up a liberal democracy --
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ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุดูƒู„ ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุงู„ู„ูŠุจุฑุงู„ูŠุฉ -
09:00
pluralism, free speech, the rule of law --
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ุงู„ุชุนุฏุฏูŠุฉ ูˆุญุฑูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุนุจูŠุฑ ูˆุณูŠุงุฏุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุงู†ูˆู† -
09:03
why those things underpin a free society
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ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ุชุฏุนู… ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุน ุงู„ุญุฑ
09:09
and make us who we are.
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ูˆุชุฌุนู„ู†ุง ู…ู† ู†ุญู†.
09:11
Because if we can tell a better story about democracy,
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ุฅุฐุง ุงุณุชุทุนู†ุง ุณุฑุฏ ู‚ุตุฉ ุฃูุถู„ ุนู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉุŒ
09:14
we can tell a better story about America,
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ููŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุณุฑุฏ ู‚ุตุฉ ุฃูุถู„ ุนู† ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุงุŒ
09:17
where our politics isn't zero-sum, right?
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ุญูŠุซ ุณูŠุงุณุชู†ุง ู„ูŠุณุช ู…ุญุตู„ุชู‡ุง ุตูุฑุŒ ุฃู„ูŠุณ ูƒุฐู„ูƒุŸ
09:21
I win means you lose.
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ุงู„ููˆุฒ ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู†ูƒ ุชุฎุณุฑ.
09:23
Because the big tribe that is America,
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ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉ ุงู„ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู‡ูŠ ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุงุŒ
09:27
the big tribe that's predicated on our democratic values,
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ุงู„ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉ ุงู„ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ ุงู„ู…ุจู†ูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู‚ูŠู…ู†ุง ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉุŒ
09:31
that tribe is big enough and strong enough,
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ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉ ูƒุจูŠุฑุฉ ุจู…ุง ูŠูƒููŠ ูˆู‚ูˆูŠุฉ ุจู…ุง ูŠูƒููŠุŒ
09:35
expansive enough,
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ูˆูˆุงุณุนุฉ ุจู…ุง ูŠูƒููŠุŒ
09:36
to hold all the other little tribes inside of it,
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ู„ุงุณุชูŠุนุงุจ ุฌู…ูŠุน ุงู„ู‚ุจุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุตุบูŠุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุจุฏุงุฎู„ู‡ุงุŒ
09:39
from your progressive Bernie Bros
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ู…ู† ุจูŠุฑู†ูŠ ุจุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ุชู‚ุฏู…ูŠ
09:42
to your evangelical Christians
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ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุณูŠุญูŠูŠู† ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌูŠู„ูŠูŠู†
09:45
to your basic lesbian Republicans.
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ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู† ุงู„ู…ุซู„ูŠู† ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณูŠูŠู†.
09:47
(Laughter)
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(ุถุญูƒ)
09:49
But we've got to attach people to that bigger tribe.
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ู„ูƒู† ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฑุจุท ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุจุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉ ุงู„ุฃูƒุจุฑ.
09:52
I don't have to tell you,
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ู„ุง ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุฃุฎุจุฑูƒุŒ
09:54
we're in a very precarious moment for American democracy.
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ู†ุญู† ููŠ ู„ุญุธุฉ ู…ุญููˆูุฉ ุจุงู„ู…ุฎุงุทุฑ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒูŠุฉ.
09:58
And if democracy can't hold in America,
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ูˆุฅุฐุง ู„ู… ุชุชู…ูƒู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุตู…ูˆุฏ ููŠ ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุงุŒ
10:01
it's going to make it a lot harder
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ูุณูŠุตุนุจ ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒุซูŠุฑู‹ุง
10:03
for democracy to survive in other countries.
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ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุงู„ุจู‚ุงุก ููŠ ุงู„ุจู„ุฏุงู† ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰.
10:08
But we are not going to stave off
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ู„ูƒู†ู†ุง ู„ู† ู†ุชุตุฏู‰
10:09
this dangerous version of the Republican Party
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ู„ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู†ุณุฎุฉ ุงู„ุฎุทูŠุฑุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุฒุจ ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠ ู…ู†
10:12
by telling people to put democracy over party.
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ุฎู„ุงู„ ุฅุฎุจุงุฑ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุจูˆุถุน ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญุฒุจ.
10:15
We're going to do it by winning elections.
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ุณู†ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุงู„ููˆุฒ ุจุงู„ุงู†ุชุฎุงุจุงุช.
10:17
We're going to do it
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ุณู†ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุจู†ูุณ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ
10:19
the same way we built Republican Voters Against Trump,
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ุงู„ุชูŠ ู‚ู…ู†ุง ุจู‡ุง ุจุจู†ุงุก ุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูŠู† ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠูŠู† ุถุฏ ุชุฑุงู…ุจุŒ
10:22
by building a dominant political coalition
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ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุจู†ุงุก ุงุฆุชู„ุงู ุณูŠุงุณูŠ ู…ู‡ูŠู…ู†
10:26
using permission structures and trusted messengers.
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ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู‡ูŠุงูƒู„ ุงู„ุฃุฐูˆู†ุงุช ูˆุงู„ู…ุฑุงุณู„ูŠู† ุงู„ู…ูˆุซูˆู‚ ุจู‡ู….
10:29
I focus on the center-right,
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ุฃุฑูƒุฒ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠู…ูŠู† ุงู„ูˆุณุทุŒ ูˆูŠุฑูƒุฒ
10:32
lots of people focus on other margins,
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ุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‡ูˆุงู…ุด ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ
10:33
but weโ€™re going to have to claw for every margin.
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ู„ูƒู† ุณูŠุชุนูŠู† ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุงู„ุจุญุซ ุนู† ูƒู„ ู‡ุงู…ุด.
10:36
Because if we can win right now, in the short term ...
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ู„ุฃู†ู‡ ุฅุฐุง ุชู…ูƒู†ุง ู…ู† ุงู„ููˆุฒ ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฏู‰ ุงู„ู‚ุตูŠุฑ...
10:39
then in the long term,
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ุซู… ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฏู‰ ุงู„ุทูˆูŠู„ุŒ
10:41
we can set about telling this better story about democracy.
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ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุฃู† ู†ุจุฏุฃ ููŠ ุณุฑุฏ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุตุฉ ุงู„ุฃูุถู„ ุนู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ.
10:46
Because here's the good news.
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ู„ุฃู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฃุฎุจุงุฑ ุงู„ุฌูŠุฏุฉ.
10:48
The fact that voters don't think much about democracy
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ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุฃู† ุงู„ู†ุงุฎุจูŠู† ู„ุง ูŠููƒุฑูˆู† ูƒุซูŠุฑู‹ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ
10:51
is actually our greatest opportunity.
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ู‡ูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุฃุนุธู… ูุฑุตุฉ ู„ู†ุง.
10:54
It means that we have the chance,
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ู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุงู„ูุฑุตุฉุŒ
10:56
those of us who are trying to defend democracy around the world,
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ู„ู„ุฐูŠู† ูŠุญุงูˆู„ูˆู† ุงู„ุฏูุงุน ุนู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ููŠ ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…ุŒ
10:59
it means that we have the chance
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ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู† ู„ุฏูŠู†ุง ุงู„ูุฑุตุฉ
11:01
to rekindle the love of democracy for a new generation.
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ู„ุฅุญูŠุงุก ุญุจ ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ู„ุฌูŠู„ ุฌุฏูŠุฏ.
11:06
And if we can do that,
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ูˆุฅุฐุง ุงุณุชุทุนู†ุง ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒุŒ ูู„ู†
11:07
we won't have to ask them to put democracy over party.
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ู†ุถุทุฑ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃู† ู†ุทู„ุจ ู…ู†ู‡ู… ูˆุถุน ุงู„ุฏูŠู…ู‚ุฑุงุทูŠุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุญุณุงุจ ุงู„ุญุฒุจ.
11:11
Thanks.
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ุดูƒุฑู‹ุง.
11:12
(Cheers and applause)
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(ู‡ุชุงูุงุช ูˆุชุตููŠู‚)
ุญูˆู„ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน

ุณูŠู‚ุฏู… ู„ูƒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆู‚ุน ู…ู‚ุงุทุน ููŠุฏูŠูˆ YouTube ุงู„ู…ููŠุฏุฉ ู„ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ. ุณุชุฑู‰ ุฏุฑูˆุณ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชู… ุชุฏุฑูŠุณู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ู…ุฏุฑุณูŠู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุฏุฑุฌุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ู…ู† ุฌู…ูŠุน ุฃู†ุญุงุก ุงู„ุนุงู„ู…. ุงู†ู‚ุฑ ู†ู‚ุฑู‹ุง ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌู‹ุง ููˆู‚ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆุถุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุตูุญุฉ ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู„ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ ู…ู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ. ูŠุชู… ุชู…ุฑูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชุฑุฌู…ุงุช ุจุงู„ุชุฒุงู…ู† ู…ุน ุชุดุบูŠู„ ุงู„ููŠุฏูŠูˆ. ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ู„ุฏูŠูƒ ุฃูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู‚ุงุช ุฃูˆ ุทู„ุจุงุช ุŒ ูŠุฑุฌู‰ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุจู†ุง ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู†ู…ูˆุฐุฌ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ู‡ุฐุง.

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