What’s Possible When the Arts Belong to Everybody | Lear deBessonet with Brian Stokes Mitchell | TED
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譯者: 麗玲 辛
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Let me tell you,
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當我還是個小女孩,
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as a little girl growing up
in Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
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成長於路易斯安那州的巴頓魯治,
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everyday life was full of spectacle.
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日常生活總是有各種壯觀場面。
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In the months leading up to Mardi Gras,
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在狂歡節 (Mardi Gras) 前幾個月,
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people from all over our community
knit beads into dresses,
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社區裡的人們會把珠子編織成服裝,
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stirred steaming pots of gumbo,
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攪拌著熱氣騰騰的秋葵濃湯,
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shaped chicken wire
into grand, majestic carriages
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用細鐵絲網製作高大華麗的馬車,
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stuffed with brightly
colored tissue paper.
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塞滿色彩鮮豔的棉紙。
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On the day of the parades,
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在遊行的那一天,
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grownups would walk out of their homes
as mermaids and alligators
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大人們會打扮成美人魚、鱷魚、
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and kings and queens.
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國王和女王,走出家門。
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You could see your second grade teacher
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你會看到你的二年級老師
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suddenly a peacock
with beautiful sparkly feathers.
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突然變成孔雀,穿戴著亮麗的羽毛。
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We would paint our faces
and flow into the street
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我們臉上畫著油彩,湧上街頭,
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where all day long,
the city sang and danced together.
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一整天,全城的人一同歌唱跳舞。
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Regular people of all ages,
races and classes
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普通人,不論年齡、種族或社會階層,
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who stepped outside of their daily life
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走出日常生活,
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and into a collective radiance.
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融入共同的奪目光彩。
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In my world, pageantry
was not just reserved for Mardi Gras.
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在我的世界裡,這樣的華麗盛況
並不僅限於狂歡節。
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Every Sunday at church,
voices lifted together,
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每個星期天在教堂裡,
我們一同高唱,
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inviting the holy down into daily life.
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邀請聖靈降臨,來到我們的日常。
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Our church staged epic
annual Christmas pageants,
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我們的教會每年演出
史詩般的聖誕劇,
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complete with real, smelly sheep.
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甚至還有臭哄哄的真羊上場。
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And down the road at LSU
football games on Saturdays,
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還有路易斯安那州立大學的足球比賽,
01:19
the stomp of the roaring crowd,
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每逢星期六,喧鬧的觀眾,
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led by the marching band
and the color guard,
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由軍樂隊和護旗隊帶領著,
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registered as an official earthquake
on the Richter scale
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在我八歲時,成為
芮氏儀上地震的定義。
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when I was eight years old.
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01:28
Big surprise, I became a theater director.
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毫無懸念地,我成為戲劇導演。
01:33
I did so with the belief that these
spectacles were more than just fun,
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因為我相信舞台場面不只是娛樂,
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that something profound was happening
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當社區居民一起來到想像國度時,
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when our community came together
in the realm of the imagination.
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某些深刻的情感會降臨。
01:47
Pageantry and spectacle
are in fact ancient,
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事實上,華麗的盛況和壯觀場面
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universal aspects of human experience.
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自古就普遍存在於人類經驗中,
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Going back as far as we can trace
the presence of humans on this planet.
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一路能追溯到人類
可考最早存在的時期。
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Religious ritual
and celebration, or carnival,
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宗教儀式和慶祝活動,或稱為嘉年華,
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provided our ancestors much needed joy,
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為我們的祖先帶來了必要的喜悅
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and the unique kind of group bonding
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和面對日常生存挑戰
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necessary for facing
their daily challenge of survival.
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所需的獨特團隊情誼。
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The question is,
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問題是,
02:13
what do these spectacles mean in our day,
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在這個時代,
舞台場面有什麼意義?
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when the interconnectedness
of our survival
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我們生存的相互連結性
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is less immediately visible
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不再那麼明顯,
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and technology offers the constant
opportunity for isolation?
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科技又一再讓我們彼此隔絕。
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As a theater director,
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作為戲劇導演,
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I search for what a communal gathering
in the realm of the imagination
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我尋找,在這個時代,
共同來到想像國度的意義。
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can mean in our time.
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And that quest led me to wonder,
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這一探索使我好奇,
02:38
inspired by the Mardi Gras
of my childhood,
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受到童年時狂歡節的啟發,
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would it be possible to create the feeling
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我是否能夠在舞台上創造出
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of a whole city on stage together?
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一整座城市同在的感覺?
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Well, what better way to try
than to stage a production
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還有什麼方式比
用 181 位來自
聖地亞哥各地的演員
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of "The Odyssey"
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with 181 people in the cast,
drawn from all over San Diego?
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上演《奧德賽》更好的呢?
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I chose "The Odyssey" because as an epic
story of a journey towards home,
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我選擇了《奧德賽》,因為
這個講述歸鄉的史詩故事規模宏大,
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it felt large enough for us
to all find ourselves inside of it.
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每個人都能在劇中找到自己的位置。
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As I wandered around San Diego,
I started to wonder,
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我在聖地亞哥漫步時,開始想,
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what if that amazing gospel choir
played the goddess Athena
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可以試試讓那超讚的福音合唱團
扮演女神雅典娜,
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and those salsa dancers,
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而那些莎莎舞者,
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what if they created Cersei's lair
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也許能呈現女巫瑟西的巢穴,
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and that amazing high school drumline?
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還有讓那了不起的高中鼓樂隊
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What if they took care of the big archery
contest that saves Odysseus at the end?
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來演出最後拯救奧德修斯的
弓箭大比賽呢?
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Sort of like medieval passion plays
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這有點像演中世紀的受難劇,
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when it was like, "Bakers,
you take the Last Supper,
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「麵包師傅,你們負責
最後的晚餐這段,
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butchers, you do the crucifixion."
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肉販,你們演十字架上受難這段。」
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When "The Odyssey" opened
in 2011 at the Old Globe,
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當《奧德賽》在 2011 年
於老環球劇場首演時,
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even I was not prepared
for the wave of joy it unleashed.
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我自己也沒料到
它會引發這麼大的喜悅回響。
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Look, I'm not a social worker.
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我不是社工,
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I'm an artist.
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我是藝術家。
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But the show surprised me.
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但這場演出讓我驚訝。
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I did the show thinking
it would be beautiful,
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我製作時,我知道它會很美,
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but it was so much more than that.
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但這齣戲遠不止於此。
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People were overcoming the challenges
of fear and self-doubt
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人們在演出這想像的戲劇過程中
克服了恐懼和自我懷疑的挑戰,
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in the imaginary process,
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and somehow it was making
them feel equipped
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而這個過程似乎讓他們感到
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to face the challenges in their real life.
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自己有能力面對現實生活中的挑戰。
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After the show, we stayed in touch
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演出結束後,我們保持聯繫,
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and I started hearing anecdotally
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我開始聽到一些後續發展,
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what I would later learn scientifically.
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後來我了解到背後有科學原因。
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Students who had been part of the show
were doing better in school.
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參與演出的學生學業成績改善了。
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Some of our elders experienced
noticeable health benefits
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一些長者健康也明顯改善,
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like better blood flow
and increased mobility.
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如血液循環變好、活動能力提升。
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A remarkable man in his early 50s
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一位 50 多歲的非凡男子,
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who had come to us
through a homeless shelter,
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由街友庇護所介紹來到我們這裡,
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got a job, a steady job,
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他在演出後,找到成年的
第一份穩定的工作。
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for the first time in his adult
life after the show.
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And ten years later,
he was still employed.
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而十年後,他仍然在工作。
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He traced it back
to performing in "The Odyssey."
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他把這一切歸功於
參與《奧德賽》的經歷。
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Why?
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為什麼呢?
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I asked him, and his answer was simple.
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我問他,他的回答很簡單。
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He said being part of the show
reminded him that he had value,
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他說,參與這個演出
讓他意識到自己有價值,
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and he knew that if other people
were counting on him,
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因為他知道其他人仰賴他,
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he could show up.
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而他能夠如約現身。
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Well, the Public Theater in New York
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紐約的公共劇院
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was willing to give me
a home for this work.
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願意為這項項目提供一個基地。
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And in 2012, I started Public Works,
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2012 年,我開啟了公共工程計劃
(Public Works),
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a program that brings together community
members from all over New York City,
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這個計劃聚集了來自
紐約市各地的社區成員,
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including children and senior citizens,
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包括兒童和老人、
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domestic workers, military veterans,
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家庭傭工、退伍軍人、
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men and women rebuilding
their lives after prison,
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出獄後重建生活的男女、
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and Broadway stars,
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百老匯明星,
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all to create 200-person pageants
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每年在中央公園的德拉科特劇院
(Delacorte Theater)
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annually at the Delacorte
Theater in Central Park.
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上演 200 人的盛大演出。
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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I want to share with you for fun
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我想和大家快速分享一下有趣的數據,
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the quick math of how
we put a city on stage
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介紹我們如何通過公共工程
將一座城市呈現在舞台上。
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through Public Works.
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In, for example, our production
of "The Winter's Tale,"
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例如,在《冬天的故事》製作中,
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we had 107 community ensemble members,
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我們有 107 名社區合唱團成員,
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ages 2 to 92,
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年齡從二歲到 92 歲,
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34 choir singers,
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34 名合唱歌手,
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16 bhangra dancers,
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16 名班戈拉舞者,
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12 ballerinas,
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12 名芭蕾舞者,
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seven "Sesame Street" characters,
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七名「芝麻街」角色,
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six stilt walkers,
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六名踩高蹺者,
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five Broadway actors,
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五名百老匯演員,
06:02
four Capoeiristas,
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四名巴西舞者,
06:04
three park rangers,
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三名公園管理人,
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two Chinese lions,
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兩隻中國舞獅,
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one bear puppet
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一隻熊木偶
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and one Big bird.
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和一隻大鳥。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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And that's how we made a city.
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我們就是這樣創造出一座城市的。
06:14
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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But why stop there?
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但我們並沒有止步於此。
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This July,
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今年七月,
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18 cities and towns across America
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全美 18 個城鎮
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will simultaneously premiere their own
large-scale public artwork,
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將同步首演各自的大型公共藝術作品,
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responding to the theme
"No Place Like Home."
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回應主題「沒有比家更好的地方」。
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Local artists partnering
with their municipality
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當地藝術家與市政府
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and their local community health centers
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和當地社區健康中心合作,
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to manifest what is possible
when the arts belong to everybody.
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展現了藝術屬於每個人的可能性。
06:45
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
06:49
The beauty of this type of art-making
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這種藝術創作的美妙之處在於,
06:52
is that people who might
not encounter each other
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原本在日常生活中不會接觸的人,
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in any other aspect of life,
except jury duty,
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除非是陪審員義務,
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gather together around life's
deepest questions.
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聚集在一起,
探討生活中最深層的問題。
07:06
This collaboration reinforces
that we all deal with the same emotions.
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這種合作增強了
我們都面臨的相同情感。
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We have all known love,
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我們都經歷過愛、
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fear,
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恐懼、
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frustration,
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挫折
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joy.
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和喜悅。
07:20
And because we meet as equals
in the realm of the imagination,
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因為我們在想像國度中
以平等的身份遇見彼此,
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something is possible that's often not
when we're separated
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不再被分隔、局限於社會角色,
07:29
and boxed into our social roles.
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有些事因此變得可能。
07:32
Whereas in San Diego, my observations
about transformation were anecdotal,
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在聖地亞哥,我對人們變化的觀察
是根據傳聞軼事,
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with Public Works, we brought on
a linguistic anthropologist
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而在公共工程計劃中,我們從一開始
就引入了一位語言人類學家,
07:39
from the very beginning
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07:41
to trace the impact
of the work over many years.
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多年來追蹤這項工作的影響。
07:44
And the results were the same.
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結果是一致的。
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In my now 20 years of directing theater,
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在我 20 年的戲劇導演生涯中,
07:51
everywhere from prisons
and shelters to Broadway,
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從監獄和庇護所到百老匯,
07:55
I have seen seniors recover
from strokes and surgery
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我見證了老年人在中風和手術後
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more quickly than their
doctors said was possible.
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復原的比醫生預期的更快。
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I've seen children diagnosed with autism
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我見過被診斷為自閉症的孩子,
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who had been told higher education
was not an option,
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曾被告知不可能受高等教育,
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go on to thrive in college and graduate.
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但他們在大學裡發展良好,也畢業了。
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I've seen a homeless man in Philadelphia
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在費城,我見過一位街友,
08:15
suffering from severe
AIDS-related complications,
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患有嚴重的愛滋病併發症,
08:19
show up at our rehearsal immediately
after leaving his hospital bed
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出院後,立即參加我們的排練,
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because he wanted to dance
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因為他想在那晚的
《堂吉訶德》中跳舞。
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in our production
of "Don Quixote" that night.
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08:28
So after all of this,
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在經歷了這一切後,
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I am not surprised to learn
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我毫不驚訝地得知,
08:32
that the World Health Organization
pooled 3,000 studies
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世界衛生組織彙總了三千項
08:36
on the relationship
between arts and health,
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關於藝術與健康關係的研究,
08:38
and found that arts interventions
have a significant role to play
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發現藝術治療扮演了重要角色,
08:43
in the reduction of ill health,
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可以減少生病、促進健康、
08:45
the promotion of good health,
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08:47
and the management
and treatment of disease.
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改善疾病管理及治療。
08:51
The good news is
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好消息是,
08:52
that this type of health benefit
comes from things
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簡單的活動就能帶來這些健康益處,
08:56
as simple as joining a choir,
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像是加入合唱團、
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going to a museum,
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參觀博物館、
09:00
being part of a weekly drawing class.
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每週上繪畫課等。
09:05
Loneliness is now
an epidemic in our world,
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在現今社會,孤獨
已經成為一種流行病,
09:09
and the growing belief
that we have nothing in common
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愈來愈多人認為
彼此的政治或宗教觀點不同,
09:12
with people who believe
differently from us,
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09:14
politically or religiously,
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因此我們沒有任何共同點,
09:16
is tearing our social fabric apart.
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這樣的信念正在撕裂我們的社會。
09:19
Participating in something
much bigger than yourself,
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參與比自我更大的事情,
09:23
working hard towards a shared good,
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努力追求共同的利益,
09:26
this restores our sense of connection.
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這恢復了我們的聯繫感。
09:29
And in the realm of the imagination,
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在想像國度裏,
09:32
perhaps even behind feathers and sequins,
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也許甚至在羽毛和亮片後面,
09:35
what becomes visible is the divine
spark in every human being
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顯現出來的是每個人身上的神聖火花
09:40
and in our one collective humanity.
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以及我們的共同人性。
09:44
Friends, the sociologist Emile Durkheim
says something I love and believe in.
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朋友們,社會學家艾米爾·涂爾幹
說了一句我很喜歡並深信的話:
09:50
"They find a remedy
because they seek it together."
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「他們找到解藥,
是因為他們共同尋找。」
09:56
Thank you.
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謝謝大家。
09:57
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
10:06
Thank you.
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謝謝大家。
10:07
It was so fun to talk
to you all about that.
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和你們聊這些真是太有趣了。
10:10
But now I want to give you
a little taste of it.
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但現在我想讓大家實際感受一下。
10:13
So I do notice an unused piano here.
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我注意到這裡有一架鋼琴沒人用。
10:17
That's never right.
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這可不行。
10:18
I want to bring to the stage now,
my good friends,
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我想邀請我的好朋友上台,
10:22
Broadway legend Brian Stokes Mitchell
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百老匯傳奇人物
布萊恩·斯托克斯·米切爾
10:24
and Todd Almond,
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和托德·阿蒙德,
10:26
my frequent collaborator on many
of the things you saw on that screen.
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在很多你剛看到的作品中,
他經常和我合作。
10:30
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
10:38
(Piano music starts)
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(鋼琴音樂開始)
10:45
Brian Stokes Mitchell: (Singing)
To dream the impossible dream /
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布萊恩·斯托克斯·米切爾:(唱)
「夢想那不可能的夢想/
10:51
To fight the unbeatable foe /
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對抗無法擊潰的敵人 /
10:58
To bear with unbearable sorrow /
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承擔無法忍受的痛楚/
11:04
To run where the brave dare not go /
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奔向勇猛戰士都不敢去的地方/
11:11
To right the unrightable wrong /
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去糾正那不公正的錯誤 /
11:17
To love pure and chaste from afar /
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去愛那純潔而遙遠的愛 /
11:23
To try when your arms are too weary /
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即使手臂已疲憊不堪,嘗試 /
11:30
To reach the unreachable star /
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去摘那遙不可及的星 /
11:35
This is my quest /
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這是我的追求 /
11:38
To follow that star /
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去追隨那顆星 /
11:41
No matter how hopeless /
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不在乎多麼無望 /
11:44
No matter how far /
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不管多麼遙遠 /
11:48
To fight for the right /
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為正義而戰鬥 /
11:51
Without question or pause /
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毫不猶豫 /
11:54
To be willing to march
into hell for a heavenly cause /
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願為此勇闖地獄,為了崇高理想 /
12:01
And I know if I'll only be true /
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我知道只要我忠於
12:07
To this glorious quest /
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這個光榮的追求 /
12:11
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm /
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我心將因此安和平靜,
12:17
When I'm laid to my rest /
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當我安息 /
12:21
And the world will be better for this /
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世界會因此更美好 /
12:28
That one man, scorned
and covered with scars /
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一個人背負全身傷痕與嘲諷 /
12:34
Still strove with his last
ounce of courage /
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依然努力耗盡最後一絲勇氣 /
12:40
To reach the unreachable stars /
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去摘那遙不可及的星!
12:47
This is my quest!
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這是我的追求!」
12:50
Audience member:
This is my quest!
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觀眾:「這是我的追求!」
12:53
BSM: To follow that star!
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BSM:「去追隨那顆星!」
12:56
Audience members:
To follow that star!
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觀眾:「去追隨那顆星!」
12:58
BSM: No matter how hopeless!
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BSM:「不在乎多麼無望!」
13:01
Audience members:
No matter how hopeless!
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觀眾:「不在乎多麼無望!」
13:03
BSM: No matter how far!
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BSM:「不管多麼遙遠!」
13:05
Audience members:
No matter how far!
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觀眾:「不管多麼遙遠!」
13:07
BSM: To fight for the rights!
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BSM:「為正義而戰鬥!」
13:09
Audience members:
To fight for the rights!
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觀眾:「為正義而戰鬥!」
13:11
BSM: Without question or pause!
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BSM:「毫不猶豫!」
13:13
Audience members:
Without question or pause!
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觀眾:「毫不猶豫!」
13:15
BSM: To be willing to march into hell /
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BSM:「 願為此勇闖地獄,
13:19
For a heavenly cause /
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為了崇高理想/
13:24
(Marching band starts)
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(樂儀隊開始演奏)
13:41
And I know if I'll only be true
to this glorious quest /
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我知道只要我忠於
這個光榮的追求 /
13:47
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm /
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我心將因此安和平靜,
13:51
when I'm laid to my rest /
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當我安息 /
13:56
And the world /
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世界
13:58
Will be better for this /
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會因此更美好 /
14:01
That one man,
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一個人
14:03
Scorned and covered with scars /
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背負全身傷痕與嘲諷 /
14:05
Still strove with his last
ounce of courage /
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依然努力耗盡最後一絲勇氣 /
14:10
To reach /
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去摘
14:25
The unreachable /
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那遙不可及的
14:30
Stars!
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星星!
14:40
(Music ends)
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(音樂結束)
14:43
(Cheers and applause)
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(歡呼和掌聲)
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