"Once There Was III" -- A Mesmerizing Blend of Dance, Animation and Tech | Nina McNeely | TED

譯者: Ivy Hung 審譯者: Shelley Tsang 曾雯海

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（音樂）

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（掌聲和歡呼聲）

Helen Walters: Technology, entertainment, design.

Helen Walters：科技、娛樂、設計。

Holy shit.

天哪。

OK, that piece was called “Once There Was III”,

好的，那件作品叫做《從前有III》，

and it came from the brain of Nina McNeely, who is here.

它來自Nina McNeely的大腦，她在這裡。

And I’m going to invite her for that standing O, if you don’t mind.

我要邀請她接收那起立鼓掌， 如果你不介意的話。

Nina.

Nina.

(Applause and cheers)

（掌聲和歡呼聲）

Please take the stage.

請上台。

Take your moment, take your bow.

慢慢來，鞠躬。

(Applause)

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OK.

好的。

OK, Nina, I have a few questions for you.

好的，Nina，我有幾個問題要問你。

I know that you don't always want to speak,

我知道你不是總想說話，

that your work speaks for itself.

你的作品自己會呈現。

But nonetheless, thank you for joining me up here.

不過還是謝謝感謝您跟我來這邊。

So you are a visual artist, a choreographer and an animator,

所以你是一個視覺藝術家， 編舞家和動畫師，

and somehow you're bringing everything together.

而且你竟然將一切都融合在一起了。

What are you doing?

你在做什麼？

You're blending technology and dance?

你在融合科技和舞蹈？

What's happening?

發生了什麼？

Nina McNeely: Yes.

Nina McNeely: 是的。

I've always been intrigued by the human experience,

我一直很好奇人類感官經驗，

the world of dreams

夢的世界，

and whatever may be lurking in the shadows of the subconscious mind.

以及可能潛伏在潛意識陰影下的一切。

So I use dance to tell stories about sisterhood

所以我用舞蹈來講關於姐妹情誼 以及奮鬥與超越的故事。

and struggle and transcendence.

And I combine that with live projection mapping

我把它結合即時的投影映射

to create surrealist environments that I can shift in and out of quickly.

創造我可以快速進出的超現實主義環境。

So it feels just like a dream.

所以感覺就像做夢一樣。

And it also allows me to create illusions

也讓我可以製造 舞者正在用他們身體控制動畫的幻覺。

that the dancers are controlling the animations with their bodies.

HW: Tell us a little bit -- There's a lot of precision here.

HW:告訴我們一點—— 這裡很需要精確度。

What's actually going on?

這裡是做什麼的?

NM: Well, this piece was actually commissioned

NM: 嗯，這一段其實是 在洛杉磯的Entity當代舞蹈委託成影片的。

by Entity Contemporary Dance in Los Angeles, as a film.

And this is the first time it's ever been performed live.

這是第一次它被現場表演過。

HW: First time.

HW: 第一次。

Oh, my God, that's so awesome.

哦，天哪，這太棒了。

NM: So my process always starts with music.

NM：我的過程總是從音樂開始。

Music is like a psychedelic to me,

音樂對我來說就像迷幻藥，

so I'm always searching for music that's going to take me

所以我一直在尋找那會帶我在 最富有想像力的旅程中的音樂。

on the most imaginative journey possible.

And then I envision the piece, I set the choreography on the dancers,

然後我設想了這件作品， 我為舞者編舞，

I shoot that choreography, usually with my phone,

我拍那個編舞， 通常用我的手機，

and then I bring that into my animation software.

然後我把那個匯入我的動畫軟件。

I create the animations,

我製造動畫，

then we get back in the studio and combine the two together,

然後我們回到工作室 並將兩者結合在一起，

which actually takes hours and hours of trial and error.

這實際上需要數小時的反複試驗。

And I heavily rely on the impeccable music timing of my dancers

而我嚴重依賴我舞者配合音樂的準確度，他們才藝與精確。

and their talent and precision.

HW: They're amazing.

HW：他們很棒。

So I love that you brought up music.

我喜歡你提到音樂。

Tell us about the music that we just heard.

解釋一下我們剛剛聽到的音樂。

NM: So this music was composed by an artist named umru

NM：所以音樂是由叫 umru 的藝術家創作

with a feature by another artist named warpstr.

跟用 另一個名為 warpstr 的藝術家的特效製作。

And I found umru’s music on SoundCloud around five years ago

大約五年前， 我在 SoundCloud 上找到了 umru 的音樂

and was just blown away by his use of these visceral, crunchy sounds

並被他這些發自肺腑、嘎吱嘎吱的聲音 結合這些天使般的聲音樣本的使用震驚了。

combined with these angelic vocal samples.

And I really loved that his music sounded both ancient and futuristic

我真的很喜歡他的音樂 同時聽起來既古老又未來。

at the same time.

So I started choreographing to his music in my dance class,

所以我開始跟著他的音樂編舞，

and we started talking on Instagram,

我們開始在 Instagram 上聊天，

and the collaboration was born.

合作誕生了。

HW: So this session is all about imagination.

HW：所以這次活動完全跟想像力相關。

Tell us a little bit about your creative process

告訴我們一點關於你的創作過程

and how imagination clearly plays into that.

以及想像力如何起到了作用。

NM: So at this point in my career as an artist,

NM：所以在我的藝術家生涯的這個點，

I've decided to just let my influences flow into me without question,

我決定讓影響我的毫無受質疑地湧入我，

even if they're not on trend or unpopular.

即使它們不流行或不受歡迎。

And this music really struck me with these visions

而這音樂真的讓我具體想到

of the religious iconography I was exposed to

成長過程中在天主教會暴露到的宗教圖像。

growing up in the Catholic Church.

And because of my Mexican and Filipino heritage,

因為我的墨西哥與菲律賓傳統，

that imagery was intense,

那種圖像很強烈，

a little bloody and dramatic.

有點血腥和戲劇性。

(Laughs)

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And I just remember being surrounded by these paintings and figurines

我只記得被這些繪畫和雕像包圍

whose faces expressed such sorrow and piety and ecstasy.

他們的臉表示非常悲傷、虔誠和狂喜。

And I just remember being completely awestruck

我只記得完全震驚

and put in the state of pure, childlike wonderment

並置於澄淨、孩子般的驚奇

by their beauty and darkness.

因他們的美麗與黑暗。

And it's my greatest desire to recreate that experience

而能重現那體驗並分享給世界 是我最大的願望。

and share it with the world.

HW: Well, you sure did that.

HW：嗯，你確實做到了。

Nina McNeely, thank you so much.

Nina McNeely,太感謝了。

NM: Thank you.

NM: 謝謝。

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