What Makes a Job "Good" -- and the Case for Investing in People | Warren Valdmanis | TED

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翻译人员: Skye Zhang 校对人员: Yip Yan Yeung
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In 1995, a fellow named Chris Klebba decided to open a gym
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1995 年,一个名叫克里斯·克莱巴 (Chris Klebba)的人
决定要在他的家乡, 密歇根的诺斯维尔(Northville),
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in his hometown of Northville, Michigan.
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开个健身房。
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Fitness had changed his life,
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健身改变了他的生活,
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and he wanted others in small-town Michigan
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他希望密歇根小镇上的其他人
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to have the same experience.
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也能有这样的体验。
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But the problem with gyms is they can be intimidating.
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但健身房的问题在于 它可能会让人望而生畏。
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It's the ultimate irony.
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这简直是终极的讽刺。
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You go to a gym to get in shape, but if you're out of shape,
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你去健身房塑形, 但如果你的身材没那么好,
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you feel like you need to get in shape just to show up.
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你就会觉得你健身 只是为了展示给别人看。
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That's why as many as 50 percent of gym members quit within the first year,
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这就是为什么 50% 的健身房 会员第一年内就退出了,
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which is fine if you open a gym in New York or LA
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当然如果你开在纽约或者洛杉矶, 这是无伤大雅的,
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with millions of people.
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那儿有成千上万的人。
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But in a small town, you might simply run out of customers.
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但在一个小镇上, 你可能最后没有顾客了。
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Now many gyms try to solve this problem by making it difficult to quit.
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现在很多健身房通过难以退会的办法 来解决这个问题。
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So now not only am I feeling guilty about not going to the gym,
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所以现在我不仅会因为 没去健身房而感到愧疚,
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but I’m stuck paying 100 dollars a month, and I’m still not getting any thinner.
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每个月还得强制花上 100 美元, 而且根本没有变得苗条。
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But Chris decided to do something different.
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但克里斯决定尝试一些不同的方法。
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Chris decided to invest in his workers.
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克里斯决定把钱花在他的雇员上。
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He hired overly helpful, overly friendly employees
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他雇佣了非常愿意帮忙、 极其友好的员工,
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who at any moment were eager to step in
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一些无论何时都热情帮忙,
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and help you learn how to use a piece of equipment
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能够帮你学会如何使用器械,
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without making you feel like you're being judged.
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而不让你觉得自己被评判挑剔的人。
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The idea was for the 55-year-old mom or dad,
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这个想法是为了 55 岁 左右的父母辈着想,
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who’d never been to a gym before in their lives,
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他们这辈子从来没踏足过
让他们立即感到舒适 和受欢迎的健身房。
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to feel welcome and comfortable immediately.
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Now my question as a private equity investor is:
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作为一个私募股权投资者, 我的问题是:
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Could this really be profitable?
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这样的模式能挣到钱吗?
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There's an old joke about a man who's had too much to drink
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有一个经典笑话是 关于一个喝多了的人
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looking for his keys under a streetlight.
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在街灯下找他的钥匙。
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A cop comes by and offers to help
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一个警察过来想帮助他,
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and asks where he thinks he lost them.
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所以问他觉得是丢在哪儿了。
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"In the park," comes the response,
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“在公园呢,”他回答说,
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"but I'm looking here because the light's better."
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“但我在这儿找 是因为这儿的灯更亮。”
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That's a little how we investors look at companies today.
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这就是现在我们投资者 看待公司的方式。
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We know that value at companies is driven by people,
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我们都知道,公司的价值 是由人来驱动的,
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but we focus on short-term profit because it's so much easier to measure.
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但我们会更关注短期收益, 因为更容易衡量。
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I’ve worked in and around private equity for 25 years
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我在私募股权行业 工作了 25 年,
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on six continents,
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遍布六个大洲,
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and I've seen this error in thinking again and again and again.
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而我一次又一次地看到 人们犯下这个思考谬误。
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In private equity,
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在私募股权市场上,
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we buy companies and seek to improve them
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我们收购公司,想办法改善它们,
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so we can sell them at a profit.
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然后卖掉它们挣钱。
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But very often that improvement comes in the form of cutting costs,
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但一般情况下,这种改善 是以削减成本的形式出现的,
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especially labor costs.
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特别是人力成本。
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Private equity employs roughly nine million people
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私募股权公司 雇佣了大约 900 万人,
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and has cut over a million jobs in the past decade.
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在过去的十年里 削减了 100 多万个工作岗位。
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Too often we ask a company for their org chart
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我们常常要求公司提供组织结构图,
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just to figure out who is getting fired.
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只是为了弄清楚有谁将被解雇。
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Now I think investors should take pride for helping to make companies lean,
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现在我认为投资者应该 为精简公司而感到自豪,
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but I'm worried that we may have done our job too well
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但我担心我们可能做得太过了,
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and are now at risk of starving companies of the people
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现在正面临着让企业缺乏
成功所需人才的风险。
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that they need to be successful.
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So the big opportunity for investors, for executives and for you
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因此,对投资者、高管和你 来说,最大的机会
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is to create rather than cut good jobs.
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是创造而不是削减优秀的工作岗位。
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Creating good jobs is now the focus of my work as a social impact investor.
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作为一名社会影响投资者, 我现在的工作重点是创造好工作。
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But to create good jobs, you first need a definition of a good job,
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但在创造它之前, 你需要先定义一份好工作是什么,
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which was surprisingly hard to find.
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让人惊讶的是,这非常难以定义。
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Spreadsheets and numbers are comforting, but people are complicated,
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电子表格和数字令人欣慰, 但人是复杂的,
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which is why impact investing can sometimes feel squishy.
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这就是为什么影响力投资 有时会让人感觉不舒服。
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Good for the soul, perhaps, but risky for the pocketbook.
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也许对灵魂有好处, 但对钱袋有风险。
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But my partners and I work at a company
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但我和我的合伙人为一家
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that prides itself on using data to solve problems.
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以利用数据解决问题 而闻名的公司工作。
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So we spent the last two years looking at all the academic research,
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所以我们过去两年间 看了所有的学术研究,
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reading all the case studies.
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读了所有的案例。
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We interviewed human capital experts
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我们采访了人力专家
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and surveyed workers across hundreds of companies.
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并且对数百个公司的 员工进行了调查。
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And from that work, we developed a common sense definition of a good job,
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通过这些工作,我们对于一份好工作 有了一个常识性的、
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one that correlates with worker productivity
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一个与员工生产力相关的、
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and helps us to build better companies.
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可以帮助我们建立更好公司的定义。
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So here it is.
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它就是——
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A good job is where a worker, one, is fairly treated.
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一份好工作是: 其一,一名员工能够被公平地对待。
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Two, has a promising future.
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其二,有一个光明的发展前景。
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Three, feels psychologically safe.
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其三,心理上感到安全。
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And four, has a sense of purpose.
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其四,有使命感。
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Now by this definition, only about a third of jobs today
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所以依照这个定义, 如今只有三分之一的工作
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qualify as good jobs.
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可以被称为是好的工作。
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But that's where data-driven impact investing can help.
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但这正是数据驱动的影响力投资 可以发挥作用的地方。
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By putting hard numbers to each of these conditions,
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通过给每个条件都加上硬性数字,
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we can score each job at the companies we invest in
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我们可以给我们投资的公司的 每一个工作进行打分,
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and then work to improve the number of good jobs at these companies.
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然后把这些公司的 更多工作变成好工作。
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So let's go through each of these four conditions in turn,
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让我们依次来看这四个条件,
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and as we do, think about the place where you work.
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当我们这样做的时候, 想想你工作的地方。
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How does it measure up?
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它将会被如何评估呢?
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If the answer is "not good," don't worry,
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如果答案是“不怎么样“,没关系,
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you can help point your company in the right direction.
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你可以帮你的公司 指明正确的方向。
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So here we go.
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那么我们开始吧。
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Number one, a worker is fairly treated.
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第一,员工会被公平对待。
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Now we spend roughly a third of our adult lives working.
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我们的成年生活几乎 三分之一的时间都在工作。
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So whether you work at Marshall's or Microsoft,
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所以不管你是在马歇尔 (Marshall’s)还是微软工作,
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you want your employer to pay you fairly for all that time.
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你会希望你的雇主 一直付你公平的薪资。
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But many investors see worker pay as a zero-sum game.
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但很多投资者将员工薪资 视为一个零和博弈。
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Whatever a company gives to workers must somehow come at our expense,
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公司提供给员工的必然 会让员工付出代价,
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which is why when Home Depot announced early in COVID
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这就是为什么在疫情早期 家得宝(Home Depot)宣布
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that they would be offering danger pay and making investments in worker safety,
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他们会提供危险报酬 并为工人安全投保后,
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they saw their market value crash by billions of dollars.
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他们的市值跌了数百万美元。
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But our research found over 100 studies that show that appropriate incentives,
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但我们的研究发现,超过 100 项 研究表明,适当的激励措施、
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attractive benefits
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员工福利,
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like retirement accounts and health care and things like flexible schedules
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比如退休账户、 医疗保险和灵活的工作时间
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more than pay for themselves
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不仅仅是为公司自己买单,
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through improved productivity, higher retention, lower hiring costs.
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提高生产率,提高留任率, 降低雇佣成本。
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Home Depot itself is a company that's built on the idea
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家得宝本身也是一个建立了
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of providing better service to customers by employing experts on its shop floors.
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通过雇佣专家为顾客提供更好服务 想法的公司。
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People who have seen your problem before
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那些之前就遇到过类似问题的人,
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because they've worked in home repair and construction,
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因为他们做过家居维修和施工,
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and they can help you to fix it better.
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所以他们可以帮你更好地解决。
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Now Home Depot is thriving today thanks to its investment in workers.
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现在家得宝由于 对员工的投资而蒸蒸日上。
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Now fair pay is a critical, critical thing,
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所以公平薪资是一件极为重要的事,
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but it's not the only thing that matters.
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但这不是唯一重要的事情。
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Which brings us to our second condition: a promising future.
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那么这就把我们带到第二个条件: 一个光明的发展前景。
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Fast food restaurants not only pay low wages,
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快餐店不仅只支付低工资,
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they also offer very little in terms of learning and growth,
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它们在学习和成长方面 提供的也很少,
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which is why their employees quit after six to 12 months on average.
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这就是为什么它们的员工在平均 6 到 12 个月后就离职了。
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Think about that the next time you get rude service at the drive-thru window.
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下次你在免下车餐厅 受到粗鲁的服务时,想想这一点。
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But training and career path can help to solve this riddle.
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但培训和职业路线 可以帮助解决这个问题。
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Restaurants like Tender Greens in California
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像加利福尼亚州的 Tender Greens(美国连锁快餐店)
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and Boloko in Boston
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和波士顿的Boloko这样的餐厅,
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offer training to their low-wage workers
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给他们的低工资员工提供了培训,
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that qualifies them for management roles.
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让他们能够具备 担任管理岗位的能力。
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So you might start out as a dishwasher earning 12 bucks an hour
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所以你可能从一个时薪 只赚 12 刀的洗碗工做起,
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and then with the right training,
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然后通过正确的培训,
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you can become a restaurant manager in a matter of months,
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经过短短几个月, 你就可以成为一个餐厅经理,
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making nearly three times that much.
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赚几乎是原来三倍的钱。
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Now the prospect of tripling your wage is a powerful motivator.
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现在,加薪三倍的前景 是一个强大的动力。
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And the data shows that workers are much more loyal and dedicated
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数据显示,当员工觉得公司 在帮助他们建设职业生涯时,
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when they feel that their company is helping them to build a career.
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员工会更加忠诚和专注,
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Our third condition, psychological safety,
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我们的第三个条件,心理安全,
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should be a fairly obvious one.
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这个应该相当显而易见了。
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Think of the best boss you've ever had,
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想想你曾有过最棒的上司,
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the one that motivated you to go above and beyond at work.
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那位激励你在工作中超越自我的人。
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I bet that person was a listener.
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我敢说那个人是个倾听者。
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Because the modern workplace is increasingly a place
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因为现代的工作环境 越来越成为一个
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of communication and collaboration.
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沟通和合作的场所。
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But many workers find it difficult or risky to speak up.
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但很多员工发现畅所欲言 是困难或者有风险的。
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Professor Amy Edmondson of Harvard has studied this issue
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哈佛大学的艾米·埃德蒙森 (Amy Edmondson)教授
曾经研究过这个问题,
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in government, nonprofits and companies
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发现在政府、非营利机构和公司中,
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and found that most people's first instinct is to self-protect.
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大部分人的第一反应是自我保护。
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Let's face it, life's too short to correct your boss's mistake
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面对现实吧,人生苦短, 没时间去纠正老板的错误,
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if you think you might get fired as a result.
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而且你可能会被炒鱿鱼。
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Not speaking up is invisible,
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不发言是无形的,
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but it can cost the company valuable ideas.
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但它会让公司失去有价值的想法。
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It can squander employee talent or worse,
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它可能会浪费员工的才能, 或者更糟的是,
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it can put customers or employees at physical risk.
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它可能会让客户或员工 处于人身危险之中。
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Google found from its quest to create the perfect team
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谷歌从创建完美团队的追求中发现
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that the most important ingredient was not the people involved
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最重要的因素不是参与其中的人
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but rather the team's overall willingness to share and listen.
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而是这个团队对于 分享和倾听的总体意愿。
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It also found that great teams don't hide from their mistakes,
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研究同时发现, 优秀的团队不会逃避自己的错误,
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but rather embrace them as opportunities for learning
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而是将它们视为学习的机会,
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and to add to the overall IQ of their companies.
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并提高公司的整体智商。
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Which brings us to purpose.
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这让我们有了目标。
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It's a lot easier to share and listen to others
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如果你和你的同事 对你的工作充满激情,
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if you and your colleagues feel passionately about your work.
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分享和倾听别人会变得容易得多,
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But do you feel passionately about the idea of going to work each day
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但当每天上班的唯一目的是
为你素未谋面的投资者们工作,
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for the sole purpose of maximizing shareholder value
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实现股东价值最大化, 你是否还会充满激情?
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for investors you've never met?
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It's just not a very energizing idea.
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这实在不是什么激励人的想法。
08:31
Humans, unlike machines, want to feel connected to a higher purpose.
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与机器不同,人类希望感受到 与更高目标的联系。
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They want to feel proud and useful.
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他们想感到自豪和有用,
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And fortunately, most companies out there do exist for a reason.
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幸运的是, 大多数公司的存在都是有原因的。
08:42
But it can be hard to tell when so many of their mission statements
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但是他们的宗旨声明中有很多
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read like they were generated by a robot.
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读起来像是机器人生成的, 这就让人很难分辨。
08:48
I actually used an online mission statement generator for this talk
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我其实给这场演讲也用了一下 在线宗旨生成器,
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to see what would come back.
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想看看会有什么结果。
08:54
"The mission of my TED talk is to offer smart insights with empathy,
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“我的TED talk的使命是,用同理心、
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care and thoughtfulness."
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关心和体贴,提供睿智的见解。”
09:01
Not bad for a computer.
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作为电脑来说真是不错了。
09:04
But a good mission statement is more than just nice words on a PowerPoint.
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但是,一个好的宗旨宣言 不仅仅是幻灯片上的漂亮话。
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A good mission statement can be the most distilled form of strategy,
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一个好的宗旨宣言可以是 战略的精华、
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the guiding light for a company and its employees.
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公司和员工的指路明灯。
09:14
That fitness chain I mentioned earlier,
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我之前提到的连锁健身房,
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Impact Fitness,
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冲击健身(Impact Fitness),
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has a very clear mission to offer health through fitness
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有一个非常明确的使命, 就是在那些服务不足的社区,
09:21
in underserved communities,
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通过健身改善人们的健康,
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and they're deadly serious about it.
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他们对此非常认真。
09:25
The founder, Chris, likes to repeat that mission at company meetings.
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创始人克里斯喜欢在 公司会议上重复强调这一使命。
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Most gym owners would be thrilled if their customers never showed up,
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如果顾客没有出现, 大多数健身房老板会很开心,
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so long as they keep paying the monthly bill.
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只要他们继续每月支付账单。
09:35
But Chris wants people to show up at workout in his gyms and get healthier.
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但克里斯希望人们来他的健身房锻炼, 变得更健康。
09:39
That's why he not only tracked gym usage,
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这就是为什么他不仅 追踪了健身房的使用情况,
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but tied it to executive pay.
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还将其与高管薪酬挂钩。
09:46
The company has gone from strength to strength,
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这家公司越来越壮大,
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growing from that single gym in Northville, Michigan,
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从密歇根诺斯维尔的 单个健身房发展起来,
09:51
to now over three dozen gyms across small-town Michigan,
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现在已经有三十多家健身房, 遍布密歇根的小镇,
09:54
Indiana and now Canada.
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到印第安纳州,现在到加拿大。
09:56
And it's done so in a way
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他们选择的方式,
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that their employees have every reason to be proud of.
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让他们的员工完全 有理由为此感到骄傲。
10:02
It's an old corporate chestnut
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这是一个老生常谈的公司格言了,
10:04
that our employees are our most valuable asset.
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员工是我们最有价值的资产。
10:08
Today those words ring as hollow as the automated voice,
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如今,这些话听起来就像 自动语音一样空洞,
10:12
telling us how important our call is when we've been on hold for 10 minutes.
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在我们等待了 10 分钟后, 说我们的来电有多重要。
10:16
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:17
But fortunately, creating good jobs isn't rocket science.
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但幸运的是,创造好的工作 不像造火箭那样复杂。
10:21
These four conditions: fair treatment,
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这四个条件:公平的待遇、
10:24
a promising future, psychological safety and purpose
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光明的发展前景、 心理安全感和使命感
10:27
are relatively easy to track and improve.
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是比较容易跟踪和改进的。
10:31
And to do that, though, requires investors and executives
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但要做到这一点, 就需要投资者和高管
10:36
to work together.
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共同努力。
10:38
Because too often well-meaning CEOs
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因为好心的首席执行官们经常
10:41
are cut short by short-term oriented investors
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被短视的投资者和
10:44
and the boards that represent them.
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代表他们的董事会打断。
10:46
But I believe with a better measure of good jobs and the associated benefits,
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但我相信,如果能更好地衡量 好工作和相关福利,
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investors will support more investments in workers.
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投资者将支持加大对员工的投资。
10:55
Because who wouldn’t want to create good jobs
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如果你在创造好工作的同时,
10:57
if you're creating more valuable companies at the same time?
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又能创建更多有价值的公司, 谁不想这么做呢?
11:00
And our research shows that companies with a higher proportion of good jobs
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我们的研究表明, 好工作比例更高的公司
11:06
grow faster and are more profitable.
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增长更快,利润也更高。
11:09
They attract better talent and are more innovative.
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它们能吸引更好的人才, 也更具创新性。
11:12
Investors ignore this issue at their peril
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投资者忽视这一问题 会让他们陷入危险,
11:16
because in today's economy,
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因为在现在的经济情况下,
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good jobs aren't just good for society,
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好的工作不仅对社会有好处,
11:20
they're good business.
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对生意也有好处。
11:22
Thank you.
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谢谢。
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