How to Live With Economic Doomsaying | Philipp Carlsson-Szlezak | TED

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00:04
Do you ever tire of the doom,
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你是否厌倦了关于全球经济的厄运
00:06
the gloom and the false alarms about the global economy?
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忧郁和虚假警报?
00:09
In public discourse,
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在公共话语中,
00:10
the economy always teeters at the cliff edge.
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经济总是在悬崖边徘徊,
00:13
Supposedly, we're just inches away from falling to our economic death.
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声称我们离经济死亡只有咫尺之遥。
00:18
And surprisingly often, we're told the fall's already begun,
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令人震惊的是,我们常常被告知 经济衰退已经开始,
00:21
such as in 2020 when the pandemic hit.
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例如在 2020 年疫情来袭时,
00:26
We were told there was going to be a deep depression,
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我们被告知 严重的萧条即将出现,
00:28
the headlines said worse than 2008,
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头条新闻说将比 2008 年的
00:31
the global financial crisis,
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全球金融危机还要糟糕,
00:32
and as bad as the 1930s Great Depression.
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和 1930 年代的大萧条一样严重。
00:35
But the opposite was true.
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但事实恰恰相反:
00:37
A swift and strong recovery.
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经济迎来了转向和强劲复苏。
00:40
In 2021,
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2021 年,
00:43
when the strong recovery pushed up demand and prices,
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当强劲的复苏推高了需求和价格时,
00:46
the doomsayers said there would be forever inflation.
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末日论者说 永久性的通货膨胀将会来临。
00:49
The headlines said a return to the ugly 1970s.
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头条新闻说 又回到了丑陋的 1970 年代。
00:53
But that didn't pan out either.
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但是这也没有发生。
00:55
After a dramatic squeeze higher, inflation fell.
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在大幅上涨之后, 通货膨胀率下降了。
00:59
And then in 2022,
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然后在 2022 年,
01:01
when the Federal Reserve and other central banks
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当美联储和其他中央银行
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raised interest rates,
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提高利率时,
01:05
the fear mongers came out
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恐慌者纷纷表示
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and said there was going to be a historic cascade
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新兴市场将出现一连串的
01:10
of emerging market defaults.
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历史性违约。
01:12
But that didn't happen.
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但那依然没有发生。
01:13
In fact, the currencies of emerging markets
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事实上,新兴市场的货币对美元的表现
01:15
performed better against the dollar than those of rich economies.
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要优于富裕经济体的货币。
01:19
And then in 2023,
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然后在 2023 年,
01:22
public discourse really wanted to believe in that recession.
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公众话语实在很想相信 经济在衰退。
01:26
The headlines anchored on one word: inevitable.
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头条新闻锚定了一个词: 不可避免。
01:29
But there was no recession.
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但是衰退没有出现。
01:31
In fact, unemployment on both sides of the Atlantic
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实际上,大西洋两岸的失业率
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was at or near record lows this century.
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都处于或接近本世纪最低水平。
01:39
We have to ask ourselves:
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我们必须问问自己:
01:41
Why the doom?
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为什么说厄运?
01:43
Why the gloom?
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为什么说忧虑?
01:44
Why all the false alarms?
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为什么到处都是虚假警报?
01:46
So I have a few ideas.
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所以我有一些想法。
01:48
Perhaps it's economists like myself.
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可能是因为, 像我这样的经济学家,
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We're not good at forecasting,
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明明不擅长预测,
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clinging to silly but sophisticated models that fail to predict.
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却执着于那些愚蠢又复杂、 但根本预测不成功的模型。
01:57
Or perhaps it’s the press that leans into doomsaying.
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也可能是因为 媒体倾向于末日论。
02:01
Financial and economic journalists,
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金融和经济记者,
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they don't get to write about sex and crime and celebrities,
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他们无法撰写有关性、犯罪 和名人的文章,
02:06
so perhaps macro doomsaying is a great substitute.
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那么宏观末日论 也许是一个很好的替代品。
02:09
Or is it all of you?
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又或者,这全都是因为你们?
02:11
If we're honest, there is some thrill in doomsaying,
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说实话,末日论确实有点刺激,
02:15
and it's in our nature to worry and to obsess.
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而担忧和痴迷是我们的天性。
02:18
Well, I think it's all of the above.
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好吧,我想以上全部原因都有。
02:20
And the problem is not the drama that plays out in headlines.
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问题不在于头条新闻所营造的戏剧性,
02:23
The problem is it comes with real costs for firms, for society, for all of us.
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问题在于末日论会让企业、社会 和我们所有人付出实际成本。
02:31
So I've spent my career helping executives
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因此,我的职业生涯 一直在帮助高管们
02:33
and investors navigate macro risk.
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和投资者们应对宏观风险。
02:35
I work with them when they worry about recession,
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当他们担心衰退、
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when they worry about inflation,
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担心通货膨胀、
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about volatility and equity and currency markets and bond markets
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担心波动性、股票、货币市场 以及债券市场等时,
02:42
and so on.
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我会与他们合作。
02:44
The one thing I've learned is that they worry most
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我从中学到了一件事, 他们最担心的
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about the seesawing economic narratives,
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是摇摆不定的经济叙事,
02:48
such as the ones we've just seen.
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比如我们刚才所提到的。
02:51
There's not just a leadership cost of sending organizations in one direction,
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让组织朝着一个方向发展, 到一段时间后又走回头路,
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only to revert some time later.
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不仅会付出领导力成本,
02:57
There is also the hard-dollar cost of false alarms.
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还会因虚假警报付出 实际金钱成本。
03:02
Think about the automakers.
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想想汽车制造商吧。
03:04
When the pandemic started,
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当疫情开始时,
03:07
they thought it was going to be a greater depression,
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他们以为一场 更严重的经济萧条即将到来,
03:09
just like the headlines said.
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正如头条新闻所说。
所以他们削减了半导体订单,
03:11
So they cut their semiconductor orders.
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却迎来了一场 势头强劲的经济复苏,
03:13
But when instead you got a roaring recovery,
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可他们没有芯片 来为汽车提供动力了,
03:15
they didn't have the chips that power their cars,
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只好与生产、销售、 收入和利润失之交臂。
03:17
they lost out on production, sales, revenue, profits.
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03:19
But also there was a scarcity of cars pushing up prices and inflation.
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同时汽车的短缺又 推高了价格和通货膨胀,
03:23
We all bore the cost of that.
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我们都为此付出了代价。
03:27
Now, against this backdrop of doom and gloom,
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现在,在这种厄运与忧郁的背景下,
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we need more optimism.
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我们需要更多的乐观情绪。
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Not the Panglossian variety, but rational optimism.
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不是庞氏骗局那种, 而是理性的乐观。
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I'm not here to belittle macroeconomic risk.
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我不是来贬低宏观经济风险的。
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I know it's out there, even the pernicious and systemic kind.
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我知道它是存在的, 甚至是系统性地有害的。
03:42
But if we can bring rational optimism to all the volatility,
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但是,如果我们能以理性的乐观 来看待所有波动性,
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we can reduce what we experience
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就能减少我们所经历的波动,
03:47
and we can sidestep some of the false alarms.
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并能避开一些虚假警报。
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How?
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怎么做?
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A good place to start is to let go of master-model mentality.
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一个不错的起点是, 丢掉“大师模型”思维。
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There is no theory.
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没有任何理论,
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There is no model that provides the definitive macro answer and forecast.
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没有任何模型可以给出一个 明确的宏观答案和预测。
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Unfortunately, economics does not enjoy the stationary law
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不幸的是,经济学们不喜欢那些
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that allows physicists to close the debate and settle for truth.
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能让物理学家们结束辩论 并接受真理的静态定律。
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Already 50 years ago,
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早在 50 年前,
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Friedrich Hayek, the Austrian economist,
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奥地利经济学家 弗里德里希·哈耶克(Friedrich Hayek)
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he criticized fellow economists
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就批评其他经济学家们
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for imitating the brilliantly successful natural sciences.
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在模仿那些硕果累累的自然科学。
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So what went wrong in 2020
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那么,在 2020 年, 是什么问题造成了
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when there was a false alarm about a COVID depression?
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有关疫情萧条的虚假警报呢?
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Turns out, macro models,
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事实证明,宏观模型
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they anchor on the unemployment rate to forecast the recovery.
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以失业率为锚点来预测复苏。
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After 2008,
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2008 年,
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the global financial crisis was followed by years of sluggish recovery.
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全球金融危机之后, 是长达数年的缓慢复苏。
04:42
So in 2020,
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因此,在 2020 年,
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when the pandemic hit and unemployment went to 15 percent,
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当疫情来袭, 失业率高达 15% 时,
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the doomsayers, of course, thought it was much worse,
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末日论者当然认为情况要糟糕得多,
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and the models predicted an even longer recovery.
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同时模型所预测的复苏时间会更长。
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But the problem was, the models didn't know 15 percent unemployment.
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但问题是,模型不了解 15% 的失业率是什么情况,
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It had never occurred before,
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它以前从未发生过,
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it was not in the empirical base of the models.
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并不在模型的经验基础之中。
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So what did they do?
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所以他们做了什么呢?
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They extrapolated outside the range of their empirical knowledge,
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他们将自己经验知识范围内的结论 进行了外推 (extrapolate),
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and they failed.
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然而他们失败了。
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Unfortunately, that is the rule rather than the exception in economics.
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不幸的是,这是经济学中的常规操作, 而非例外。
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An economy like the US has only seen 11 recessions
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像美国这样的经济体, 仅经历了 11 次经济衰退,
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between the end of the World War II and the start of the pandemic.
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自第二次世界大战结束 到疫情开始。
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Now, each of those was idiosyncratic,
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这些衰退都具有特异性,
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with its own drivers and own idiosyncrasies.
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有自己的驱动因素和特质。
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But even if they were homogenous,
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即便它们是同质性的,
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11 is still not a sample size that will convince any natural scientist.
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仅仅 11 个样本量 仍然无法说服任何自然科学家。
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So instead of chasing elusive certainty in forecasts,
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因此,我们要做的不是 追求渺茫的预测确定性,
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what we need to do is embrace uncertainty instead.
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而是拥抱不确定性。
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Now that sounds like a burden.
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现在这听起来像是一种负担。
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But instead of feeling small and envious of natural scientists
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但是,与其因自身的渺小 而去羡慕自然科学家们,
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and that their own world doesn't fit into an Excel sheet,
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只因自己的世界 不适合写在一张 Excel 表格中,
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economists should embrace that diversity of drivers
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经济学家们, 不如去拥抱驱动因素的多样性吧,
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and they should embrace the messy reality of economics.
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同时,应该接受经济学的混乱现实。
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And to be extra clear,
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更应明确的是,
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if the models had had more empirical bases,
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就算这些模型已经拥有了 更多的实证基础,
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even if they had known 15 percent unemployment,
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即使它们已经理解了 失业率为 15% 的情况,
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they still would not have been able to string together
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他们仍然无法对经济复苏
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a coherent narrative of that recovery.
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做出一个连贯一致的叙述。
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What about the brilliantly successful natural sciences?
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那些硕果累累自然科学 是怎样做到的呢?
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Turns out they didn't do much better.
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事实证明他们并没有做得更好。
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The onset of the pandemic was an accidental race
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疫情的爆发正好成为了 流行病学家们
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between epidemiologists and economists reading the future.
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和经济学家们之间的一场 关于解读未来的竞赛。
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Epidemiologists, they predicted many million more COVID deaths
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流行病学家们,他们所预测的 因疫情死亡的人数
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that never occurred,
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比实际死亡人数多出了几百万,
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making economists almost look good in the process.
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这让经济学家们在这场竞赛中 看起来还算靠谱。
06:38
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
06:39
So what we need is an open, eclectic mind,
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所以我们需要的是一个开放的、 兼容并包的思维,
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not closed for models.
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而不是一个封闭的模型思维。
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Now, the good news is,
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现在,好消息是,
06:50
if we let go of master-model mentality,
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如果我们忘掉“大师模型”思维,
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and if we embrace the uncertainty that is a reality,
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如果我们接受 现实就是不确定的,
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we're already more than halfway towards thinking like a rational optimist.
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那我们已经朝着理性乐观主义者 的方向前进了大半程。
07:01
Let me talk about the “rational” in rational optimism first.
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让我先谈谈理性乐观主义中的“理性”。
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Of course, there will be another recession.
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当然,总会有另一场衰退,
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There will be another crisis, and it is rational to consider them.
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总会有另一场危机, 考虑这些危机是合理的,
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But it is not rational to assume them.
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但是去假设它们是不合理的。
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The pathway to the cliff edge.
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假设一条通向悬崖边缘的路。
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When we have a narrow analytical lens,
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当我们用狭窄的分析视角时,
07:19
we tend to see only the edges of the risk distribution get stuck there.
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我们往往只会看到 风险分布曲线的边缘,
并局限在那里。
07:23
When we have a wider analytical lens,
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当我们有更广阔的分析视角时,
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we see broader parts of the risk distribution,
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我们会看到风险分布曲线更宽的部分,
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and we’re able to calibrate risk against each other.
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并能相互校准风险。
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There's also a tricky asymmetry.
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还有一个棘手的问题是不对称性。
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Big macro crises,
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大型宏观危机,
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they tend to be low-probability but high-impact events.
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它们往往是低概率但高影响的事件。
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But when we conflate the dimensions of probability and impact,
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但是,当我们将概率和影响 这两个维度混为一谈时,
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it becomes very easy to have distorted perspectives.
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就很容易得到扭曲的视角。
07:49
A telltale sign of such distorted perspectives of the doomsaying narrative
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末日论者的视角就是这么扭曲, 一个明显迹象就是
07:55
is they often cut straight to two questions:
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它们总是直接切入这两个问题:
07:58
When will it happen?
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它何时会发生?
08:00
And how big will be the damage?
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以及它损失会有多大?
08:03
But isn’t it more rational to ask: What are the drivers?
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可是,更合理的逻辑不是应该问: 什么才是其驱动因素?
08:06
What is the pathway to that cliff edge?
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通往悬崖边缘的路径是什么?
08:08
And what are the signposts along the way?
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还有沿途的路标是什么?
08:11
Now that leads me to the “optimism” in rational optimism.
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这使我想到了 理性乐观主义的“乐观”。
08:15
Public discourse has always skewed negative,
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公共话语一直偏向负面报道,
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but we now live in a digital era of a culture where news is entertainment.
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但我们现在生活在一个 新闻娱乐化的数字时代。
08:25
The business model of fighting for our eyeballs and our clicks
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商业模型为了夺人眼球和点击率,
08:30
reliably passes the microphone to the loudest pessimists in the room.
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总是将麦克风递给房间里 声音最大的悲观主义者。
08:35
And we never keep them accountable.
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而我们从不追究他们的责任。
08:38
Sure, it's impressive when an economist predicted
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诚然,一位经济学家预测了 2008 年的全球金融危机,
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the 2008 global financial crisis,
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令人印象深刻,
08:44
until you realize they predicted another dozen meltdowns
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直到你意识到他们又预测了 另外十几次金融危机,
08:47
that somehow didn't happen.
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但不知为何都没有发生。
08:49
Remember, a broken clock is right twice a day.
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记住,即使是一个停摆的时钟, 每天也会正确报时两次。
08:54
And remember, the doomsayers,
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同样地,请记住,末日论者,
08:56
they never bear the cost of their false alarms.
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他们从不承担虚假警报的代价。
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Only those who act on them do.
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承担代价的都是那些 因他们的话采取行动的人。
09:02
So where does that leave us?
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那么,我们该怎么办呢?
09:04
When you consume goods and services,
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当您消费商品和服务时,
09:07
you're often warned about their contents.
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总会得到有关其内容的警告。
09:09
When you watch a movie, it might say PG-13 or X-rated.
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你看一部电影, 它可能会显示 PG-13 或 X 级。
09:13
When you open a bottle of wine, it'll say drink with moderation.
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你开一瓶葡萄酒, 它会说要适量饮用。
09:17
But when you take in the news, particularly about the economy,
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但是,当你看新闻, 尤其是经济新闻时,
09:20
you're never warned about the false alarms.
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你永远不会得到虚假警报的警告。
09:23
Let rational optimism be your warning system.
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让理性乐观主义成为你的警告系统吧。
09:26
Remember, for every true crisis, there are many false alarms.
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请记住,每一次真正的危机 都伴随着许多次虚惊一场。
09:31
So when the next recession or crisis hits,
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因此,当下一次经济衰退或危机来临时,
09:34
let go of the master-model forecasts.
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忘掉大师模型的预测,
09:37
Embrace the uncertainty.
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拥抱不确定性,
09:40
Embrace the distribution of risk.
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接受风险分布,
09:42
Ask what takes us to the edge of the risk distribution
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问一问是什么让我们 来到了风险分布的边缘,
09:45
and what pulls us back from the brink.
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又是什么将我们从边缘拉回来。
09:47
Don't outsource your judgment to the headlines.
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不要将你的判断外包给头条新闻。
09:51
Dare to judge for yourself.
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要敢于自己做判断。
09:53
In other words, dare to be a rational optimist.
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换句话说,要敢于成为一个 理性的乐观主义者。
09:56
Thank you.
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谢谢。
09:57
(Applause)
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