Daniel J. Watts: To accomplish great things, you need to "let the paint dry" | TED

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大家好,我叫丹尼尔·J·瓦茨 (Daniel J. Watts)。
我是 2020 年(美国戏剧界最高荣誉) 托尼奖的候选人。
我也是个讲故事的人。
这是我的新颜料。
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Hi there, my name is Daniel J. Watts,
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嗯……
00:19
I am a 2020 Tony nominee.
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嗯……
00:22
And I'm a storyteller.
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(踢踏的声音)
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This is my new jam.
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Uh. Uh. Uh.
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00:33
Uh. Uh.
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00:34
(Tapping sounds)
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“老兄——
你真是不让这些颜料干下来啊”,
我的一位导师有天跟我这样说。
他是用赞美的语气说的。
“是的,我想你没错。”
00:49
"Maaaaaan ...
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我假装害羞地笑着答道,
00:52
You don't really let paint dry,"
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我认证他这句夸奖, 并把它放在我的头上,
00:54
one of my mentors said to me one day.
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He meant it as a compliment.
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像个半歪的皇冠一样。
我是那种行动派的艺术家,
01:00
"Yeah, I guess you're right,"
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我一直以此为荣。
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I grinned back pseudo-shyly,
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01:05
as I took said compliment and placed it on my head
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(踢踏的声音)
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like a half-cocked crown.
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01:10
I've always taken pride in being the kind of artist
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01:13
that's always making moves.
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上次我的导师给我补课的时候,
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(Tapping sounds)
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那是 2019 年的七月份,
我正在拍《了不起的麦瑟尔夫人》,
还搬进了我在哈莱姆富人区的新公寓。
01:27
We were having one of our catch-up sessions, my mentor and I,
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我刚从巴黎回来,
01:30
July 2019,
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01:32
I, between shooting episodes of "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel,"
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只是去那玩玩。
你懂的——
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and moving into my new apartment uptown in Harlem.
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买点东西,逛逛博物馆,
01:40
I'd just returned from Paris.
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坐在咖啡厅里看着人们走过。
就是那种——巴黎式的,
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I was just going out there to hang.
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01:46
You know --
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01:49
shop a little, take in a couple museums,
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放任自流还是什么的。
我当时不知道我的“假期” 会变成“工期”,
01:54
sit down at cafés and watch the people go by.
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01:56
You know -- très parisien.
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也不知道会被我的朋友 Ray 邀请一起表演,
去到那场他大放异彩的 国际黑人朋克音乐节上。
02:04
Laissez–faire and whatnot.
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好吧,我可能知道一点点,
02:05
Little did I know that my vacation would turn into a work-cation,
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但我不会等颜料干。
02:09
and I would be asked to perform with my friend Ray
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嗯……
02:11
as he headlined at the international music festival AFROPUNK.
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(踢踏的声音)
02:16
OK, I might have known a little bit.
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02:18
But I wasn't going to let that paint dry.
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我回来的时候,戴夫·查普尔 (Dave Chappelle)在百老汇首次登台,
02:22
Mm hmm.
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在那之后有一场只有被邀请的人 才能参加的即兴音乐会。
02:25
(Tapping sounds)
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我受邀参加。
我在那儿即兴演奏。
耶!
02:31
Upon my return, Dave Chappelle was making his Broadway debut,
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02:34
followed by an invite-only impromptu jam session.
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02:37
I had an invite.
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不是大事。
02:39
I jammed at the session.
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一个星期后,泰塔斯·伯吉斯 (Tituss Burgess) 的专辑发售,
02:41
Ehhhh!
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有两首我参与合作,
在那两天前, “Deadline” 发表了文章:
百老汇的《蒂娜》音乐剧 找到了它的“艾克·特纳”,
02:50
That's all right.
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他就是在《最后的O.G.》中联袂出演的 丹尼尔·J·瓦茨。
02:52
A week from then, Tituss Burgess's album will be released,
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02:55
on which I had two features,
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哦——湿着的颜料!
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and two days prior, "Deadline" would announce
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03:00
"Broadway's 'Tina' Musical Finds its Ike Turner
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我当时还并未像这样作画过。
03:03
in 'The Last O.G.' Co-star Daniel J. Watts."
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排练前的一星期,
我妈妈和我会去密西西比的 克拉克斯代尔市、
田纳西州的孟菲斯和纳特布什旅游,
03:08
Ohhhh, wet paint!
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去看看小艾克·特纳当年会怎样生活,
03:12
And I had not yet started painting like this.
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然后再飞回纽约 完成《了不起的麦瑟尔夫人》的拍摄,
03:15
The week before rehearsals,
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很快又到达洛杉矶 参加一个专辑的发布音乐会,
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my mother and I would travel to Clarksdale, Mississippi.
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再回到纽约开始《蒂娜》的排练。
03:19
Memphis, Tennessee, and Nutbush, Tennessee,
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03:22
to see how a younger Ike Turner might have maneuvered through life,
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四周用来排练,
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then back to NYC to finish shooting "Maisel,"
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三周技术加工,
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then a quick trip to L.A. for an album release concert,
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再来四周用于预演。
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then back to New York City to start "Tina" rehearsal.
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这就到了十一月了, 首映礼之夜到来。
我的家人,包括我妈妈、两位阿姨、
03:35
Four weeks of rehearsal,
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03:38
three weeks of tech,
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两位堂兄弟姐妹和我 91 岁的祖母
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four more weeks of previews.
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都飞到百老汇应援。
03:42
And now it's November, and it's opening night.
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03:44
My family, which consists of my mother, my two aunts,
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他们完全,完完全全地沉浸在了 属于南方人的骄傲
和家族的荣耀之中,
03:51
my two cousins and my 91-year-old granny
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而那时正是帷幕落下,蒂娜·特纳 在 1500 人面前,
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fly up to support.
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佯装轻轻给了我一巴掌。
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They are drenched -- drenched -- in Southern pride
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(踢踏舞的声音)
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and basking in familial glory
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04:03
as Tina Turner pretends to give me a light smacking around at the curtain call,
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那爽极了。
04:07
in front of 1,500 people.
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时间很快到了感恩节, 也就是说马上圣诞了,
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(Tapping sounds)
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你也可以管它叫新年。
2020 新年快乐!
剧透警告: 事情开始变得脱离轨迹了,
04:15
It was awesome.
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变得非常快。
但是我也不会让 这 2020 年的颜料干下来。
04:19
Skip over to Thanksgiving, which means it's basically Christmas,
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04:22
so you might as well say it's a new year.
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04:24
Happy New Year 2020!
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04:25
Spoiler alert: things are going to get wild --
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04:28
fast.
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04:29
But I wasn't about to let that 2020 paint get dry.
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耶……
首先,
我的单人秀表演 和每周八次的《Tina》开始冲突,
把时间占得满满的,我没有一天能休息。
04:44
Yeahhhh.
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周五晚还有一场表演,
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First off,
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就在还有两场演出的周六的前夜。
04:50
performances of my one-man show overlap with my eight shows a week at 'Tina,'
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没干的颜料,没干的颜料,没干的颜料!
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fully equipped with no days off
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忙到二月, 我开始感受到影响了。
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and a midnight performance on a Friday night,
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05:00
the night before a two-show Saturday.
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一切都变得混乱起来。
05:02
Wet paint, wet paint, wet paint!
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我这一年的合同才刚走完三个月,
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Bleeding into February, I'm starting to feel the effects.
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我就已经觉得, 我想歇着了,来个假期吧,
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Everything's starting to blend.
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步入三月,
承担艾克·特纳的角色 成了一件麻烦事,
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I'm only three months into my one-year contract,
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我分不清谁是谁的灾难。
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and I'm already feeling like I need a break, I need a vacation.
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我真的分不清……
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Moving into March,
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05:27
and now taking on the role of Ike Turner has started to take its toll,
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而且有消息说这个神秘的疾病, 开始在百老汇露面。
05:31
and I can't tell whose trauma is whose.
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啊,但是这幅画。
05:35
I can't tell whose trauma is hues ...
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我开足马力,我马力全开。
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And there's news of this mysterious illness making its Broadway debut.
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因为还有托尼奖的事—— 得把那堆采访考虑进去
那意味着西装, 紫西装、蓝西装、绿西装。
05:46
Uh, but this paint, though.
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你穿的真合身,我也是。
但那是防护服吗?
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All cylinders are firing, I'm firing all cylinders
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海蓝宝石。
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because there's Tony buzz -- got to pack those interviews in! --
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05:56
which means suits, purple suits, blue suits, green.
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看起来这幅画快要干了的时候,
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Suits you, it suits me.
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06:01
And is that a hazmat suit?
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我问自己:
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Aquamarine.
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我真的想要这一切吗?
我是说,所有的一切, 这些财富、声誉和知名度?
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And as it seems the paint is beginning to dry,
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因为(知名喜剧演员)大卫·查普尔 对大卫·莱特曼说,
当你越把自己当作一个名人来投资时,
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I ask myself:
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06:16
Do I really want all this?
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你身上的真我也会越来越少。
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I mean, all of this, the fortune and the fame and the celebrity?
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嗯……
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Because Dave Chappelle said to David Letterman
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06:24
that the more you invest into yourself as a celebrity,
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所以我问自己:
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the less of yourself you get to own.
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我真的取得什么成果了吗?
或者说,我到底在朝哪儿走呢?
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Hmm.
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因为我感觉我并没有长进。
就像在一个仓鼠轮子上不停奔跑,
还不知道该怎么下来。
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And I asked myself:
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好像我还得先征得同意,
才能做那些我知道 为了自己该做的事情。
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Am I really going anywhere?
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06:44
Like, what's my sense of direction?
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过了很久很久以后……
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Because I feel like I'm not going anywhere
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这样的世界终于停摆了。
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or like I'm running in place on a hamster wheel
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that I don't know how to get off of.
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06:52
And it's like I have to ask permission
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to do the thing that I know that I need to do for myself,
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06:56
and then, and then, and then, and then ...
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考虑到一切瞬息万变,
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The world finally stops.
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我被迫停下来 得到了我十分需要的喘息,
因为那场神秘的疫情 仍未得到遏制。
虽然我知道答案不是“不久之后”,
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And because everything is in flux,
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但我还在不停问自己:
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I am forced to take a much-needed reprieve
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百老汇什么时候能恢复?
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as that mysterious illness has been granted an extension.
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因为虽然我非常非常 需要疫情所带来的休息,
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And though I know the answer is not for a while,
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我也同时非常特别格外 需要工资支票。
我一直在关注这 这场神秘疫情的情况。
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I kept asking myself:
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07:24
When’s Broadway coming back?
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我需要这幅画干下来了。
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Because even though I really, really, really need to take this break,
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现在每个人震惊又迷惑, 我们的灰色变成了蓝色。
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I really, really, really, really, really need a check,
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我停止了一切社交活动,
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and I keep checking the status on this mysterious illness
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但我一直关注着新闻,
因为我在看着颜料干下来,
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because I need that paint to dry now.
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尽管它干的太慢,仍牵绊着我。
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And now everyone's dazed and confused, our greys turned to blues.
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07:44
I'm off all of the socials,
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嗯……
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but I stay glued to the news
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07:47
because I'm watching the paint dry
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时间来到了夏天。
夏天的时候,
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that will not dry fast enough for me to keep going.
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整个国家火热起来,
我全面恢复了社交,
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Hmm.
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因为我的单人秀被 挪到了线上并作出了相应改变,
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Skip to the summer.
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08:00
Skip to the summer,
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now the country's on fire.
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所以我就可以谈论艾哈迈德、 布雷诺纳和乔治·弗洛伊德的死亡。
08:06
I'm back on all the socials,
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百老汇仍不知道它何时能恢复,
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because my one-man show has been revived and revamped for the virtual space
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但它因为过去的错事 正在被议论纷纷。
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so I can comment on the death of Ahmaud, Breonna and George.
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我觉得是时候离开这个城市了。
去北卡罗莱纳州呆了三周, 洛杉矶两周,波特兰一周之后,
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Broadway still doesn't know when it's going to come back,
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08:22
but now it's in the hot seat for all of its past transgressions.
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我回到了纽约。
百老汇还是没有恢复的消息。
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And I think it might be time for me to take a break from the city.
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我需要一些东西 来让我不再那么关注疫情的种种。
我选择了……
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Three weeks in North Carolina, two weeks in L.A., one week in Portland.
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用脚来作画。
我需要一些生动而多彩的东西,
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I come back to New York.
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08:36
Broadway still doesn't know when it's going to come back.
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这不仅仅停留在口号。
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I need something to take my mind off all these pandemics,
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现在我明白了 我对沉浸在色彩里着了迷。
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and the next thing I know ...
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08:43
I'm painting with my feet.
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看着它们飞溅、旋转、融合
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I needed something live and in color
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08:49
that wasn't "Live and in color!"
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做着人们疫情下不应该做的一切。
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And now I realize I'm obsessed with diving in colors.
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08:56
Watching them splatter, swirl and blend
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在我正陶醉地沉浸其中的时候,
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and do all the things people shouldn't be doing right now.
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我突然明白,
我需要学会让这些颜料干下来。
我需要停下、
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And as I'm in the midst of my deep dive,
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休息,
因为如果我不这样做的话,
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I realize
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我的黄色和蓝色就会结合成绿色,
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I had to learn how to let paint dry.
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即使那不是我最想要的。
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I have to stop
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and take a break,
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09:27
because if I don't,
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然后我开始思考其他时候,
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my yellows and my blues will make green,
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那些我不让颜料干下来的时候,
那些我不给事情 留下疗愈的时间的时候,
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even if that's not what I really, really want.
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这就像我仍在跳舞, 尽管两脚扭伤,
尽管医生告诉我我需要 休息一阵儿了。
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And then I started to think about all the other times
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09:42
when I wasn't letting paint dry,
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或是我强迫自己结束 那些破碎的关系,
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when I wasn't taking time away to let things heal,
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09:46
like when I was still dancing on two sprained ankles,
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因为我不想去费劲修复。
或是我对我的经纪人大惊小怪
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even though the doctor told me I needed to take a break for a while.
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因为……因为网飞 在我的单人秀之后一周
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Or when I was trying to force closure in a newly broken-up relationship
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都没有给我致电抛出邀约。
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because I didn't want to deal with the healing process.
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我总是不给时间
10:01
Or when I fussed out my reps
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以它需要的时间
10:03
because ... because Netflix haven’t called to offer me a deal
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来展现它的疗效。
我总是不相信,
10:08
a week after my one-man show.
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我做的已经足够多。
10:11
All the times when I didn't want time
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我不需要带着更多色彩回来。
10:13
to take the time it takes
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10:15
to reveal itself to me.
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10:19
All the times when I didn't believe
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百老汇不会恢复,
10:22
that what I had already done was enough
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10:24
and that I didn't have to keep going back in with more color.
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它只会向前走。
而当它做到的时候,它所用的色彩 需要呈现出更丰富的表达力。
10:32
Broadway can't come back.
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10:36
It has to come forward.
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不幸的是,我现在不能完成这幅画。
10:39
And when it does, it has to be more expressive with the colors that it uses.
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为了去做我真正想要做的东西,
我必须让这幅画干下来。
10:50
And unfortunately, I can't finish this piece for you right now.
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哦——当然这是一个
10:55
Because in order for me to do what I really want to be able to do,
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我还在非常非常努力地
去学着习惯的东西。
11:00
I have to let this paint dry.
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但我知道这份等待是值得的。
谢谢。
11:05
Ohhh, and that's something that I'm ...
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11:08
I'm still really, really, really
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11:10
learning to be OK with.
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11:14
But I know it'll be worth the wait.
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11:16
Thank you.
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