The Climate Solutions Worth Funding — Now | Jonathan Foley | TED

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翻译人员: Lening Xu 校对人员: Yip Yan Yeung
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So I'm a climate scientist
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我是一名气候科学家,
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and I've devoted my entire life to this topic.
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一辈子致力于气候研究。
00:13
Why on Earth would anybody want to do that?
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为什么有人愿意那样做?
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Well, it's because science can help us.
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因为科学可以帮助我们。
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It was, after all, science that first told us
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科学首先告诉我们,
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that this planet was warming
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这个星球正在变暖,
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and we were the cause of that.
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而我们就是导致变暖的原因。
00:25
But science can also help us find solutions to the crisis.
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但科学也可以帮助我们 寻求解决危机的办法。
00:29
And we need this more than ever.
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而我们比以往任何时候都更需要它们。
00:31
Because right now,
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现在,
00:33
everybody seems to be telling us about their favorite climate solutions.
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似乎每个人都在推销 自己偏好的气候问题解决方案。
00:37
There's so much noise, so much confusion,
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噪音太大,混乱太多,
00:39
all these ideas out there.
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所有想法都浮出水面。
00:41
How do we sort it out?
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我们到底该如何解决问题?
00:42
How do we figure out what works and what doesn't
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我们如何判断哪些有效,哪些无效?
00:45
and where we should focus?
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我们应如何聚焦?
00:47
Well, this is where science can help us.
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这就是科学可以帮助我们的地方。
00:49
We can do what's called a meta analysis,
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我们可以进行“元分析”,
00:52
where we collect all the evidence,
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收集所有证据、所有数据,
00:54
all the data, and look at it
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然后对其进行研究,
00:56
and figure out which solutions are the biggest,
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找出哪些解决方案影响最大,
00:59
which ones are the most effective and which ones are ready to go now.
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哪些解决方案最有效, 哪些方案已准备就绪。
01:02
And here's the good news.
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这是个好消息。
01:04
Evidence tells us what we should focus on.
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证据告诉我们应该关注什么。
01:07
And there are lots of good climate solutions available right now,
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现在有许多很好的 气候解决方案可供选择,
01:11
ready to go.
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随时可用。
01:12
Let's focus on these
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让我们专注这些,
01:14
and less on the ones that are kind of a distraction right now.
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而不是那些分散注意力的方案。
01:17
Science can also help us figure out the economics of climate solutions.
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科学还可以帮助我们 测算气候解决方案的经济性。
01:21
And what we can do is build what's called a cost curve,
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我们要做的是构建成本曲线,
01:24
where we stack up climate solutions from left to right,
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从左到右堆叠气候解决方案,
01:28
from the cheapest ones all the way to the most expensive.
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从最便宜的到最昂贵的。
01:31
And here's the amazing thing.
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这是最神奇的事情。
01:33
When we do that,
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当我们这样做时,
我们会发现这些气候解决方案中, 约有 80% 其实非常便宜。
01:35
we find out that about 80 percent of these climate solutions
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01:37
are actually really cheap.
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01:40
They're cheaper than what we do already.
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它们比我们现在的做法便宜。
01:43
They're cheaper than fossil fuels,
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它们比化石燃料便宜,
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they're cheaper than polluting industries,
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比污染行业便宜,
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they're cheaper than destructive agriculture.
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比破坏性农业便宜。
01:49
And these cheap climate solutions are the best bargains in human history.
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这些廉价的气候解决方案 是人类历史上最好的便宜货。
01:54
They save money now and prevent disaster in the future.
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节约现在的开支, 防范未来的灾难。
01:59
And we should be deploying the hell out of these things.
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我们应该有效利用这些方案。
02:02
So science has shown us the “what” of addressing the climate crisis:
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科学向我们展示了 应对气候危机的“意义”:
02:06
What solutions we have, what they’re going to cost,
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有哪些解决方案, 它们的成本是多少,
02:09
what we can do.
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我们可以做什么。
02:10
But we also need help with the how, when, where,
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但我们仍需了解如何、
何时、何地、以何种方式, 才能最好地实施这些方案,
02:15
in what ways do we best deploy these climate solutions
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02:18
to be the most effective.
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以使其最有效。
02:20
So let's go build that science of how.
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让我们来构建科学的架构。
02:23
To do that, we've got to go back to the basics.
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为此,我们必须回归基础。
02:26
To stop climate change,
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为了阻止气候变化,
02:27
the biggest thing we've got to do is bend that big red curve,
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我们要做的最重要事情 就是扭转那条巨大的红色曲线,
02:31
the emissions of greenhouse gases that are causing the problem
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即温室气体排放,这是问题的根源。
02:34
in the first place.
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02:36
And we've got to bend it really hard and really fast.
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我们必须强力、迅速地弯曲它,
02:39
We've got to cut emissions drastically in the coming decade
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我们必须在未来十年中大幅减少排放,
02:42
and keep cutting them and keep cutting them
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并在本世纪中叶继续减少排放。
02:45
through the middle of the century.
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02:47
But we're also going to need a little bit of carbon removal
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我们也需要一点碳去除 解决剩余的排放问题。
02:50
to address any remaining emissions.
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02:52
And together, a whole lot of emissions cuts
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总之,大量碳减排和少量碳去除,
02:55
and a little bit of carbon removal will help us get to net zero
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在阻止气候变化进一步加剧时, 帮助我们实现净零排放。
02:59
when we stop climate change from going any farther.
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03:02
But in all of this work,
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但是在所有工作中,
03:04
the most important variable
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最重要的变量,
03:06
and the one that people often forget is time.
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人们经常忘记的变量是——时间。
03:10
That's because climate change is a cumulative problem.
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气候变化是一个累积性问题。
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It builds up over time.
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它会随着时间的推移而累积。
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The temperatures we're seeing on Earth today
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地球如今的气温
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are due to the buildup of greenhouse gases
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是由于过去 150 年来 温室气体的积聚所致。
03:20
over the last 150 years.
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03:23
Well, it turns out that the problem is cumulative
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事实证明,问题是累积性的,
03:26
and climate solutions are too.
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气候解决方案也是如此。
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Let me show you what I mean.
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我来解释一下,
03:31
If we cut emissions now into the next decade,
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如果从现在到下一个十年减少排放,
03:33
we can prevent that much carbon, that whole blue area,
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可以阻止那么多的碳, 整个蓝色区域,进入大气层。
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from ever going in the atmosphere.
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03:39
And if these emissions cuts are permanent,
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如果这些减排是永久性的,
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then we keep adding to it the next decade
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我们将在未来十年和 之后的十年里继续增加减排量,
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and the decade after that,
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03:46
building up to a huge impact in stopping climate change.
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对遏制气候变化产生巨大影响。
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That's incredible.
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这太不可思议了。
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This decades emissions does that much work in stopping climate change.
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几十年的减排为阻止气候变化 发挥了很大的作用。
03:56
Well, we can cut emissions again in the 2030s
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我们可以在 2030 年代再次减排,
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and again in the 2040s,
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在 2040 年代再次减排,
04:00
but the longer we wait,
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但是等待的时间越长,
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the less effective these actions are going to be.
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行动的效果就越差。
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They simply have less time to work on the atmosphere.
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它们在大气层上作用的时间就越少。
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Well, carbon removal is important too, but it faces an uphill battle
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碳去除也很重要, 这是一场艰苦的战斗,
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because it starts basically at zero
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基本上从零开始,达到所需的 千兆吨规模需要数年时间。
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and it's going to take years to go to the gigaton scale that's required.
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04:19
So it is important,
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这很重要,但总体而言, 它的累积影响很小。
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but overall it's total cumulative impact is pretty small.
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04:25
And when we do the math correctly
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当我们准确地进行数学运算,
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and we do what's called the integral
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通过积分或曲线下的面积 来评估气候解决方案时,
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or the area under the curve in assessing climate solutions,
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04:32
we find something kind of extraordinary.
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会有不同寻常的发现。
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Emissions cuts are really most of the story here.
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减排就是这里的重头戏。
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Ninety-six percent of what it takes to get to net zero is cutting emissions.
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净零排放的 96% 通过减排实现。
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And three quarters of this comes from the first decades of emissions cuts.
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四分之三来自前几十年的减排。
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That's amazing.
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太神奇了。
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Early action matters a lot.
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尽早采取行动非常重要。
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Carbon removal will be part of the story, but overall, its impact is pretty small,
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碳去除实现了一部分, 但总体而言,其影响很小,
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about four percent.
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约为 4% 。
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What this tells us is there's a time value of carbon,
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这揭示了碳的时间价值,
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just like the time value of money.
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就像金钱的时间价值一样。
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Early investments pay off in the long run.
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归根到底,早期投资更有效。
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It also tells us about the kinds of solutions we need
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它还揭示了我们所需的解决方案, 以及它们如何随着时间推移而展现。
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and how they unfold over time.
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05:14
For example, we're going to need a hell of a lot
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例如,我们有大量的环境问题 需要解决方案来紧急刹车。
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of emergency brake climate solutions.
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Solutions that have no delays
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无任何延迟且立即作用于 大气层的解决方案。
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and instantly work on the atmosphere.
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05:23
Things like plugging methane leaks or stopping deforestation
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诸如堵住甲烷泄漏或停止森林砍伐,
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or big gains in energy efficiency in today's infrastructure,
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或大幅提高当今基础设施的 能源效率之类的事项,
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while we build out tomorrow's infrastructure,
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当我们建设未来的基础设施时,
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and we're going to need a lot of new infrastructure and power systems
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我们需要大量新的基础设施、 电力系统、交通设施和建筑物。
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and transportation and buildings.
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05:40
But infrastructure takes time.
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但基础建设需要时间。
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We also need nature-based climate solutions like planting trees,
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我们还需要基于自然的气候解决方案, 比如植树、恢复生态系统。
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restoring ecosystems.
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But trees and soils take decades to build up carbon
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但树木和土壤需要数十年的时间 才能积聚碳,而且会推迟。
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and will be delayed.
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And of course, we will need some new technologies.
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当然,我们需要一些新技术。
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But these might not show up for a long time,
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但这些可能很长一段时间都不会出现,
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and the longer we wait,
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而我们等待的时间越长,
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they are much less effective.
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它们的效果也会低得多。
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So when we think about climate solutions,
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因此,当我们考虑气候解决方案时,
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we need to make sure we emphasize the solutions that are ready to go now
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我们需要确保并强调 已经准备就绪的解决方案,
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so they can start building up their impact over time and not wait.
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这样它们就可以随着时间的推移 开始产生影响力,而不必等待。
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This is why we say now is better than new
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这就是为什么我们说 当下的比新的更好,
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and time is more important than tech.
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时间比技术更重要。
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Science can help us in other ways too.
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科学也可以通过其他方式帮助我们。
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It can help us geographically focus our efforts
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它可以帮助我们在地理上集中精力,
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to make sure we're doing them in the most important places.
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确保我们在最重要的地方发力。
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Science and big data can, for example,
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例如,科学和大数据可以指出 甲烷羽流涌入大气层的位置。
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point out where methane plumes are pouring into the atmosphere.
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These are satellite images showing specific pipelines
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这些卫星图像显示了使甲烷 涌入天空的那些管道和炼油厂,
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and refineries where methane is pouring into the sky,
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导致了气候变化。
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causing climate change.
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06:42
Let's go there and fix these leaks
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让我们去那里修复这些漏洞,
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and make sure that they're not contributing to climate change anymore.
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确保它们不再影响气候变化。
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And we can use big data to target other climate interventions,
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我们可以使用大数据来分析 其他气候干预措施,
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whether it's deforestation
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无论是森林砍伐, 还是关闭世界上最肮脏的发电厂,
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or closing the dirtiest power plants in the world,
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06:56
to make sure that every action counts
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以确保每一项行动都有效,
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and can be most impactful right away.
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并且可以立即产生最大的效果。
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Science can also make sure that we look for solutions that help people,
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科学还可以确保我们 寻找解决方案,帮助人们,
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especially the most vulnerable and poorest people on Earth.
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尤其是地球上最脆弱和最贫穷的人。
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And I can't think of a better example than looking at fossil fuels.
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我想不出比研究化石燃料更好的例子了。
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We know that fossil fuels are the biggest contributor to climate change,
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我们知道化石燃料是 导致气候变化的最大原因,
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but they're also the biggest contributor to air pollution,
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它们也是目前导致空气污染、 颗粒物、雾霾的主要因素。
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particulate matter and smog, right now.
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And this air pollution is killing people.
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这种空气污染正在夺去人们的生命。
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Harvard epidemiologists have estimated
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哈佛大学流行病学家估计,
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between eight and nine million people a year
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每年有 800 至 900 万的过早死亡,
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are dying prematurely because of the air pollution
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是由化石燃料导致的空气污染造成的。
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caused by fossil fuels right now.
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That's more than warfare, guns and tobacco combined.
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这比战争、枪支和烟草的总和还要多。
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So when we phase out fossil fuels,
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因此,当我们逐步淘汰化石燃料时,
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not only do we save us from a climate crisis,
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我们不仅可以摆脱气候危机,
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it also saves us from a health crisis here today.
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还可以摆脱当今的健康危机。
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This is a win-win for the world,
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这对全世界来说是双赢的,
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especially through the lens of equity and justice.
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尤其是从公平和正义的角度来看。
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We can finally then use science
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我们最终可以利用科学 来协调所有这些不同的事物,
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to kind of orchestrate all of these different things,
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to make sure that we're aligning our efforts with the atmosphere
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确保我们的努力与解决 大气层和碳排放的问题保持一致。
08:05
and with the carbon problem.
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So we have to do lots of different things.
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我们必须做很多不同的事情。
08:09
How do we know how to do them in the right kind of proportions,
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我们如何知道怎样以正确的比例,
08:12
and build a portfolio of actions that works best?
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建立最有效的行动组合?
08:17
Well, again, science can help us out here.
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再说一遍,科学可以帮助我们。
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This portfolio here shows us what we need to do,
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这个组合向我们展示了需要做什么,
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mainly cutting emissions in those big six sectors
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主要是减少电力、食品和工业 等六大行业的排放。
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like electricity and food and industry.
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And also count on a little bit of carbon removal to close the final gap.
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也可以依靠一点点的碳去除 来缩小最后的差距。
08:33
So this is what we need to do to get to net zero.
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这是我们实现净零排放所需要做的。
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How does that compare to what we're actually doing?
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这和我们的实际行为相比如何?
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Well, not so great.
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嗯,不太好。
08:41
When we look at the Inflation Reduction Act in the United States
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看看美国的《通胀削减法案》, 我们把资金投向何处,
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of where we're putting our money,
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or even more disturbingly,
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更令人不安的是,
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where the private sector is putting money,
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私营部门在哪里投入资金,
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in this case, venture capital going into climate solutions.
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在本例中, 风险投资涉入气候解决方案。
08:54
Venture capital put two thirds of its money into one technology:
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风险投资将其三分之二的 资金投入了一项技术:
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Electric vehicles and scooters.
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电动汽车和踏板车。
09:01
That's two thirds of the money
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这是三分之二的资金用于 基本上是百分之五的解决方案。
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going to what's basically a five-percent solution.
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This kind of mismatch between our capital and the carbon
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从长远来看,需要解决资本投入 与碳排放问题之间的不匹配,
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needs to be fixed in the long run,
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so we make sure we put our resources in the best possible places.
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我们要确保将资源 投入到尽可能有效的地方。
09:16
At the end of the day, though, science gives us six pillars for effective action.
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归根结底,科学为我们提供了 采取有效行动的六大支柱。
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First, we've got to make sure that solutions are based in evidence,
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首先,我们必须确保 解决方案以证据为基础,
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not just hype and rhetoric.
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而不仅仅是炒作和言论。
09:27
We also need to make sure climate solutions are cheap
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我们还需确保解决方案成本低廉,
09:29
so we can do a lot of them.
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这样我们才能采纳更多。
09:31
And we should look for solutions that are ready to go now,
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我们应该寻找已准备就绪的解决方案,
09:34
so they have the maximum impact possible over time.
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这样它们才能随着时间的 推移产生最大的效果。
09:37
We can also geographically focus our efforts
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我们还可以在地理上集中精力,
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to make sure they're most impactful
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确保它们最有效力,
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and ensure that they are helping us through the lens of equity and justice
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并确保它们从公平和正义的 角度帮助我们,
09:45
and are truly beneficial to people, too.
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也真正造福于人们。
09:48
We also, though, can align all of this so our portfolios are lined up
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但是,我们也可以调整所有这些,
使投资组合与大气中的碳保持一致。
09:52
with the carbon in the atmosphere.
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09:54
In the end, if we do these things, we can still stop climate change,
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总而言之,如果我们做了这些事情, 我们依然可以阻止气候变化,
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but only if we do them all.
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但前提是我们全力以赴。
10:01
We still have a narrow window of opportunity to stop climate change,
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我们阻止气候变化的机会之窗仍然很窄,
10:05
but we've got to make every day,
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但我们必须让每一天、
10:07
every move and every dollar count like never before.
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每一个动作和每一美元 都比以往任何时候都更有意义。
10:11
But if we redouble our efforts and truly listen to the science
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但是,如果我们加倍努力,
真正倾听科学的意见, 努力成为最优秀的人,
10:15
and step up to be the best people we can be,
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10:18
I know we can solve this problem.
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我认为我们能解决这个问题。
10:20
And with your help, we will.
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在你的帮助下,我们可以。
10:23
Thank you.
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谢谢。
10:24
(Applause)
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