What Does Poverty Look Like on a Plate? | Huiyi Lin | TED

翻译人员: Yiling Deng 校对人员: Bruce Wang

Poverty is really linked to so many things in life.

贫困确实与生活中的许多 事物息息相关。

Because it is not just an economic phenomenon.

因为这不仅仅 是一种经济现象。

It’s not just a social phenomenon.

这不只是一种社会现象。

It's an individual and a family.

这是一个个人和一个家庭。

It's at the base of really what it means to be human

这是成为人类的 真正含义

and how we think about human rights.

以及我们对人权的看法的基础。

My name is Huiyi Lin.

我叫林惠宜。

I'm an artist with Chow and Lin.

我是 Chow 和 Lin 的艺术家。

I've been creating a project called "The Poverty Line"

在过去的14年里，我一直在和我的搭档

for the past 14 years with my partner, Stefen Chow.

Stefen Chow 一起创建了一个 名为 “贫困线” 的项目。

I calculated the per-person per-day rate of the national poverty line in China.

我计算了中国全国贫困线的人均每日比率。

We then went to the local markets to purchase food items

然后我们去当地市场

with that amount of money.

用这笔钱购买食品。

Stefen photographed the food on local newspapers,

斯蒂芬在当地报纸上拍摄了在盘子里的食物，

showing what poverty looks like on a plate.

这些展现了贫困的样子。

The poverty line tries to understand

贫困线试图理解

and look at a very simple question:

和研究一个非常简单的问题：

what does it mean to be poor?

贫穷意味着什么？

We're looking at it from the angle of food choices,

我们从食物选择的角度来看待这个问题，

which would be available for somebody living at the poverty line of a country.

生活在一个国家的贫困线上的人能够选择的食物。

When we talk about choices,

当我们谈论选择时，

we also need to understand the scope in which we are able to make choices.

我们还需要了解我们能够做出选择的范围。

And that really changes the way that we can behave,

这确实改变了我们的行为方式，

the way that we relate to each other,

我们彼此交往的方式，

the way that we see each other

我们看待彼此的方式

and the way that we can work together.

以及我们合作的方式。

When we first created the project, we didn't even know what it was.

当我们第一次创建这个项目时， 我们甚至不知道它是什么。

It was kind of just a way of communicating between the two of us,

这只是我们两个人 之间沟通的一种方式，

a way of extending that discussion about what poverty means.

一种扩展 关于贫困含义的讨论的方式。

But when we started releasing the photographs online

但是，当我们开始在网上 发布照片时，

and we saw reactions coming from people in the US,

我们看到了来自美国、

from people in Europe and people in Russia,

欧洲和俄罗斯的人的反应

and then later on, only much later on, people in China themselves,

之后，直到很久以后，中国人自己

whether it was right, whether it was too little,

这是否正确，是否太少，

whether it looks good, whether it looks fresh,

它是否看起来不错， 是否看起来新鲜，

whether it wasn't as what they expected.

是否不符合他们的预期。

We found that different people have different responses

我们发现不同的人

to the same set of photographs.

对同一组照片 有不同的反应。

And it was very strange.

而且很奇怪。

It was really unexpected.

这真是出乎意料。

There is no policy report I could have ever written

我本来不可能写

that would have generated this kind of response.

任何能产生 这种回应的政策报告。

For me, that was supposed to be a very objective way

对我来说，这本来应该是看待贫困的

of looking at poverty,

一种非常客观的方式，

but yet it became very subjective

但它却变得非常主观

in the way that people connected

因为人们建立了

and felt emotional or very deeply personal

和感到情绪化或者深刻的个人感受

about the food that we were presenting.

关于我们展现的食物。

We all have reactions, basically to food,

我们都有反应，对食物的基本反应

because it is a daily unifying human ritual.

因为食物是人类每天都要 统一的仪式。

That kind of very visceral,

这种非常发自内心的、

instinctive reaction was something that surprised me,

本能的反应， 这令我感到惊讶，

but later on became a very meaningful part

但后来这一个非常有意义的一部分。

of how the work engages people.

关于我如何与人们建立联系。

So we expanded the concept to different places.

因此，我们将这个概念扩展 到了不同的地方。

We photographed what daily food choices at the poverty line looks like

我们拍摄了在贫困线上每日的食物选择

all over the world,

在全世界范围内，

and we ultimately covered 38 countries and territories

最终覆盖了六大洲的38个国家和地区

across six continents.

跨越6个大洲。

Poverty is at the base of many issues that we see today,

贫困是我们今天看到的 许多问题的根源，

and it will also be affected by many of the trends

并且它还将受到很多趋势的影响

that we see in climate change,

比如我们看到的气候变化

in conflict, in migration,

冲突、移民

and many crises, whether man-made or natural.

还有很多无论是人为还是自然的危机

Our photographs don't change that, but they do prompt conversations.

我们的照片并没有改变这种状况， 但它们可以推动了交流。

"The Poverty Line" images have sparked policy conversations

“贫困线” 图像引发了政策对话

and prompted new research.

并推动了新的研究。

Working in policy or working in economic frameworks,

在政策领域工作或 在经济框架内工作，

there is a tendency to look at the broad strokes,

人们倾向于从大局看，

at the macro view,

从宏观角度来看，

but it really depends on what is the local context,

但这实际上这很取决于当地的背景，

and it's not something in the hands of somebody else.

这不是他人手中的东西。

It really is, you know, the next person beside us,

这就是，你知道， 我们旁边的下一个人，

the people in our own communities.

我们自己社区中的人。

We need to understand that we are all part of the same system

我们需要明白， 我们都是同一个系统的一部分，

and we all play a role in it.

我们都在其中扮演着角色。

"The Poverty Line" is really about bridging the gaps

“贫困线” 实际上是关于架起

in our understanding, making us very curious,

我们理解差距的桥梁， 使我们非常好奇，

also motivated to want to understand more.

也有动力想要了解更多。

Because there are so many things which really bind us together,

因为有太多东西真正将我们联系在一起，

and that really changes how we view the world,

这确实改变了 我们对世界的看法，

how we view decision making,

我们看待决策的方式，

and how we view the people around us.

以及我们看待周围人的方式。